DawgTalkers.net Forums The Archives 2024 NFL Season Looking Back: Browns 14 Bengals 21 Postgame Thoughts

- Watson has likely played his last down for us (or anyone). Didn't want it to end with such a bad injury. Hoping he fully recovers and finds mental peace

- Our ST's were the worst I can remember. Really bad

- Our defense played well ... until they didn't. Newsome is a bad player and teams pick on him quite often

- It was good to see Chubb back out there and score

Some of Stefanski’s play calls are hard to stomach.

I would like to see Winston start the next few games instead of DTR. Just felt more confident with him back there.

Yes, it was great seeing Nick Chubb back.

Special teams, coaching, and penalties lost us this game, in that order

Browns fans a majority of them at the game are void
Of class. Watson was cheered as he left the field on that cart
The guy is human. He doesn't deserve that

The run blocking was non existent today.
The Bengals dline had their way with the Browns oline

Stefanski coached like a desperate coach today

The season is over. Berry needs replaced

I bet at least some of "his women" would argue that he is a monster and does deserve all that and more

- Sloppy. Undisciplined. Poorly coached. Poorly executed. Lackluster effort. Your 2024 Cleveland Browns.

- Watson missed a wide open Jeudy and Tillman for what would have been early TDs in the game had he read the field. Instead he checked down to Chubb on both occasions.

- The inexcusable lack of discipline falls squarely on Stefanski. Players need to be held accountable. They clearly are not.

- The Browns had three rushing attempts in the second half. Mind boggling.

- 10 penalties. The Browns offense leads the NFL in penalties.

- The Browns defense held the Bengals offense to 14 points, 2-13 on 3rd downs and again, it's still not enough to even be competitive.

- Jedrick Wills has no sense of pride and is just going through the motions out on the field.

- Hopkins has the yips.

- Great to see Chubb get a TD.

- This team is a long ways from being competitive. Several units need completely overhauled and this team has zero young talent due to lack of draft picks.

- Let DTR finish out the season if he's healthy, there's no point in starting Winston. Winston was brought in to be nothing more than Watson's hype man.

- I cannot even fathom how bad the mood is in the locker room.

- It's too early to say with certainty, but I have a sinking feeling Haslam will have Watson trotted back out there at some point next year once healthy.

Cheers: All the fans that that can manage to sit through a Browns game from beginning to end.
Jeers: Kevin Stefanski. Not smart. Not tough. Not. accountable

The Cavs opener is in three days.

You took that the wrong way. The fans stood and cheered, as all fans across the NFL do, when is player is carted off after a really bad injury.

That's pretty much my view, the guy is a sex offender.

He still has a pretty good life for one even if his career is over, it could be worse for him. He could be in prison where they really don't get treated well. He should consider himself very lucky.

You hit everything on the head... Agree with it all other than being ambivalent over who the starting QB is as neither is the answer. I guess seeing DTR could confirm that for us.

Berry and KS need to go.

I can't stand Watson and have always said from Day 1 that was was a square peg trying to be force fit into a round hole in Cleveland. He never wanted to be here and he glory days were way behind him. Without a doubt the absolute worst trade in NFL HISTORY, with no debate. That being said, I genuinely hated seeing him go down like that. Watching the slo mo replay was disturbing
I truly feel bad for him as a person.

No reason to go out and get Winston to have him 3rd string. DTR is an average QB with limited experience. He had a very small frame and it prone to injury. Regardless, the Browns are once again in QB hell at no fault but their own. I would fire every Offensive coach we hired this year tonight starting with the O-line coaches and Bubba Ventrone.

Jeudy is the new Cooper. Doesn't want to be here and his demeanor and game play show it. The Browns Offense is worse than the 0-16 Offense after making the playoffs last year. Absolutely disgusting.

Hope dw saved up some money as he's probably done for - well, def. done for the year - but possibly his career.

Hope he has the money, and the mental ability, to deal with the stress, emotions, and everything else.

I would never wish a career, or even season ending injury on anyone.

I found it odd, however, that DTR was actually able to find open receiver's more than 5 yards down field. Haven't seen that this year. Was DTR great? Nope. Perhaps getting some real practice reps will help that. We should give him the dw treatment: He was rusty.

Karma. It'll bite you.

Good to see Chubb back. Not a stellar day for him, but man, it's been over a year since he played. Glad they didn't over use him, and glad he got a t.d.

Addition by subtraction?

3 years. 18 games. 230,000,000.

Sure, the suspension. Then the injury. Now this injury. But in the precious few games of the dw era in Cleveland, he stunk it up.

Happiest moments of a boat owners life: The day he bought it, and the day he sold it.

Jimmy can't sell dw, though.

sounds like Moore was late or being a jerk

That's what I see. I have never, ever seen or heard of an OG being called for offside (lining up in the neutral zone). It may have been a 'ticky-tacky' call but even so, it was absolutely inexcusable.

Watson going down with an achilles was brutal and I’m sorry for his pain/injury. That said, I didn’t think we looked much better with DTR, it’ll be interesting to see who they trot out next week. Can Winston bring a ‘Joe’ type spark and win some games? Should we play DTR for the experience and let him take his lumps this season, to see if he can start nest year? I can’t imagine them putting Watson back in next year, if he returns. Honestly, I hope the league goes forward with some sort of punishment that allows us to get out of the DW contract. Not even sure it matters with this Owner and FO. I’ve lost confidence in all of them at this point.

Glad I decided to be done feeling the Browns sadness last week, Going to keep watching but I’ll be rooting on Baker and the Bucs for the duration of this season. I still ride with 6 whenever I can. Maybe they’ll go get OUR Super Bowl. It’s obvious we won’t whiff a super bowl with this owner.

At this point, its time for a rebuild.. Depo/Berry haven't taken this roster and turned it into one of the least talented groups ever assembled, KS is not a good coach who can develop anyone into serviceable. He needs a ton a talent that he can under use while still getting enough wins to make people think he's good. He is not. There should not be a single player safe from a fire sale except chubb. He can stay as long as he wants to. But it doesn't matter who we trot out at QB, we will finish 1-16. I'd be 100% Ok with the letting KS go tonight and let vrabel take over for some try before you buy. We've had long enough to see that things aren't going to change. There is no leadership anywhere in the organization or on the field.

We looked dumber than gravel today on offense. We hurt them with some runs that weren't Ski up the middle again calls. Very low number of runs in the second half. Passing was short and sideways for short gains. We got better when Watson left with injury. Might well be end of season if Achilles.
Our special teams sucked today. Placekicker shopping again? How patient do you need to be with the yips?How many game changers do you miss out on. The booth today carried on how incredible and unstoppable the Bangles were, how Burrow was best in NFL with Chase, and this nonsense went on all day. They won by one touchdown, produced on a floor caused by bad tackling, lousy ST play, and a poor attitude.
Our OL killed us. Lousy blocking, stupid penalties for formation, shift, offsides, and more. How is that better coaching going? Saw some quit today. Trade deadline is coming soon. We could cure some of the half-assery stuff and still be tanking for one or two, I suspect. We made a so-so team look like world beaters.
We need a "stadium nazi" like the "soup nazi" in Steinfeld. "No Dome for you until you fix this first!"

lol.. yeah.. DTR found all kinds of people downfield...lol.. some people are going to hate regardless but just for fun:
Att Cmp Yds YPA TD Int Lg Sack Loss Rate

Dorian Thompson-Robinson 24 11 82 3.4 0 2 16 1 3 19.8
Deshaun Watson 17 15 128 7.5 0 0 21 2 13 98.0

yeah DTR sure went down the field more than 5 yards.. oh wait..he actually didn't.. I get it DW bad, anyone else=good.. But as KS said, DW gave them the best chance to win.. and it was true, today just proved it goes WAAAY beyond a QB that's wrong with this team

You are a negative poster, constantly. Keep that in mind.

If dw gave us the best chance to win - look where we are.

Some people will stand behind $230 million dollars for 18 games total over 3 years, with another 2 years due. Other people will see dw's performance thus far for what it's worth: A wooden nickel.

He's getting his money, which may be all he wanted, I don't know. But, there's a team involved. And dw has stunk thus far. Period. He'll possibly miss most of next year. I can't expect he'll play much next year at all.

He's no Chubb. I can see hanging with Chubb based on his past performance. Dw? No. He'll get his money, and he's already set this team back ............a decade?

Would you be happy as a WR on the worst Offense in the NFL?

no, I'm just realistic. So DW, just playing to get his money.. still the best option because the rest of the QB's and offense suck. SO yeah. Not sure what chubb has to do with anything. You're right theres a team involved.. they ALL SUCK.. the qb hasn't mattered, the RB hasn't mattered.. bottom line is there is something systematically wrong with this team, to put that blame at any one thing is obtuse. I'm not saying Watson has been good this year, I'm saying he was still our best QB, thats an issue with Berry/Depo.. they created this mess. They've also failed to bring any semblance of talent or depth.. KS has made blunder after blunder as a HC/OC.. Dickerson is complete trash and has set this Oline back to 99. So yeah.. you say if DW gave us the best chance, look where we are.. yeah.. we are losing regardless who the QB is on this team.. thats my point.. But you saying that DTR was better made me laugh, so I had to point out it was wishful thinking.

This game pretty much puts the nail in the coffin, as far as playoffs are concerned. All we have left to play for (outside of professional and personal pride) is draft position in the top 5....

Good news: Amare had 66 yards and a td in a win today for Buffalo.

Although it was pretty much trash time. I want Winston starting. I think he sees the field better than DTR, and he goes downfield with it. Conklin out again, talk about a waste of money.

The defense can't tackle. And many of the guys missing these tackles were good tacklers in the past. Other than that, they did their job.

I have grown so used to this movie, it doesn't even upset me anymore. They play good one year, now they will suck for 5. Then it will all start over. Factory of Sadness, is an understatement

Yea.. everyone thought Watson was the sole problem.. NOT!!!.. That Oline has been crap all season and it was on full display!!.. Jed is the worse!!.. Bitonio got pushed all over field today!!..

Garret, Newsome and Winston all chirping back at the fans re: the Watson injury.

Players and fans fighting. This is going to end so poorly. Fans will be actively rooting against this team at the stadium before too long

This team is so incredibly unlikable. I've mentioned it previously, but I've never felt the city and it's fans have such disdain and contempt for a team as they do this current Browns team.

Watson is done in Cleveland (hopefully). Berry can be let go. Stefanski can be let go. Dorsey can be let go. Vrabel is our guy. Schwartz is fine. Get me a GM. Get me an OC. Let's see what DTR has for the rest of the season. Need a lot so it will take a few drafts to get back up to speed unless our new GM is a genius. It was great to see Chubb on the field and in the end zone. I feel like at least the team is watchable now that Watson is off the field. Everyone here knows that the Browns had ZERO chance to win with him on the field. He should be happy. He has all the money he will EVER need in life. He no longer has to subject himself to a weekly beating in the NFL nor does he have to listen to people complaining about how bad he is. Fade into the sunset and go live your life DW. If anything good came from this deal, I hope that Haslam learned a lesson and better understands his role as an owner. It's going to be a long year and I won't mind one bit if the Browns are close all year and go 1-16. They need to maximize their draft position for 2025.

There just isn't much to play for at all. This team needs blown up and we don't have any rookies/1st year players to make us excited

Kevin Stefanski - casually talks with his friends after another loss.

Zero accountability. No answers. Only empty words…

its tiresome

At what point does Jimmy or Berry address the people who are paying for this crap?

Remember the days of Steeler fans occupying 80% of our stadium? Well, those days are back.

I just can’t help but ask the question WTH WERE YOU THINKING WITH THIS TRADE JIMMY AND ANDREW?!!!!

I don't like the thought of watching DTR play out the year . It looks like the game is to big for him . I also would prefer Winston .

He’s a 5th round pick for a reason. And Jameis is a backup for a reason. This is an absolute abuse of a fanbase. If Flacco were still our qb, we’d be, at worst, 4-3. These bleepers have zero problem taking our money and then handing us this pile of crap.

Hunt looks good in KC.Makes me wonder who the talent evaluator is that decided those bums they marched out there was a better option.
Watching these teams,I was going to post that the browns aren't even in the same stratosphere as they are,but it's way more universal.
We have become so comfortable with rebuilds that every one of us can feel one coming,and it's time.

Could we get a first and a second for Myles? He’s a freak and he’s been a beast for us, but we can go 1-7 without him. I would think Detroit would be interested.

That sounds good, but it isn't true. Some players get worse, many stay exactly the same. We only hope they get better.

That said, we might as well play him to prove out what most already know, or at least feel pretty sure, he isn't the future.