DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Question for professed Christians

1. How many times are you going to respond to the same thing?

2. You responded to the proposal of what would be if Humans didn't invent the concept of time by invoking the Humans concept of time.

"Time" is nothing but an arbitrary human concept created to help our minds order our perceived existence. All concepts of it are entirely dependent upon our observations which are limited by our limited ability to perceive. Even the way we subdivide the concept is based in what we feel to be the size of this blue marble we're on and its relationship to the firey marble in our sky.... we take those things as immutable constants, when they're not.

As for carbon dating... there's a whole separate can of worms with, at best, mixed results - but, also based on assumptions of what are perceived to be observed constants - but that are entirely limited by our capacity to perceive.

Do you want to open the time vs gravity can of wormholes?

Me either.

Yet this entire thread was about questioning the LGBTQ community. "Things that make you go hmmmm for $500 Alex."

Yep that’s the one. I told Frank about that I was anticipating and would have to answer. Sir, are so lost in the bullrushes to think that this thread is about questioning LGBT. This is about the belief of Christians. Do they believe the words of Jesus or do they believe the words of our culture?

Did I ever say anything negative about LGBT? No. I asked a question. So in our culture, we cannot ask questions about certain topics without being assumed to be bigots. That is anti-free speech and judgemental and yes, you do have the freedom and liberty to judge people and condemn people without knowledge and accuse them of doing the same That’s the Democrat way

If you want to say that Jesus did not believe the Torah or if you want to say that Paul was a false apostle in his words are invalid or if you want to say that Christianity is no longer valid well that’s your choice, and you should just come right out and open the say so , but don’t accuse me of bigotry because of a Bible question that you don’t like.

I said question for ChristianSir, And the Bible says that Christians need to examine their beliefs in light of scripture to see if they line up. If my post was threatening to you, maybe your beliefs don’t match up with the Scriptures. Now if you wanted to argue that the Scriptures don’t agree with me, You could’ve convinced me using Sound argument and if you were correct, I would have listened. but you did not do, but instead attacked Christianity. So we need to throw out the scripture Because nominal, professed Christianity is a mixed bag of wheat and tares, as Jesus told us it would be. possibly You do not have a high view of scripture. If that is the case, you answered the question.

Good day.

Your post was an affront to people who actually believe the word of Christ. Jesus told us not to judge. He told us that we should only throw stones if we are without sin. Then you come along as ask people whether they're willing to throw rocks or not. We are to love everyone as we do ourselves and not pass judgement. You Sir want us to do exactly that. I wonder if your "gay friends" would appreciate or know you would post something like this? I'm thinking no.

When did I judge? When did I throw stones? When did I throw rocks?

I challenge you to show one place where I judged, condemned, or threw rocks at LGBT. You can’t and you won’t. Your accusations are false and slanderous. My goodness, the OP was open ended, I didn’t even state my view. 🤣🤣🤣

What about Paul? Is he a false apostle? I guess he judged and threw rocks.

You don’t know the meaning of do not judge People always say Jesus said do not judge But then A few verses down, he said Do not throw your pearls before swine or give what is holy to the dogs. And by their fruit, you will know them. So obviously doesn’t mean what you think it means Not that I’m saying LGBT is any of those things, Wouldn’t want you to put words in my mouth, which is a constant habit of yours

I asked a question about the teachings of Jesus and you threw a conniption. All you had to do is Tell me what Jesus does teach, if you disagree with me, (though I did not give an opinion when I asked the question🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣)

Let's look at the OP shall we?


There are multiple sins listed in the bible. Yet out of all of them, this is the one you specifically chose to pick. That's not an accident. And then you gave people one of only two choices. You either agree with Jesus but support going against his teachings or you support we inflict his teachings on the whole of society. That wasn't an accident either.


People following this thread also know this is not true.

You brought up false prophets. As I see it the only one who believes they're some kind of self appointed prophet that I would consider a false prophet is the poster I am responding to now.


Maybe try reading that a little more slowly. Then follow that up by reading your judgemental reply that follows that.

Make that 7.

I was just saying it in jest, but thanks for the explanation, because I admittedly did not know what you were referring to.

Times passed before humans invented the temporal concept of time, which is why we can date bones and rocks. If they had up in time before humans, it would be impossible to Determine the age of something that existed before we were able to measure time

Very, very simple, and I’ve already explained it three times now

Wouldn’t in a row mean without anyone else posting? And did I not say that I was anticipating a question that I would have to answer if it was asked and did I not say that I would try not to reply anymore and did not say if you keep asking me questions or posting things that I feel I need to answer that I will reply or did you not read? 😀

Time and days were always measured from sunset to sunset. A time day that everyone could see and identify. That is the concept of time whether you tried to claim otherwise three times, five times or ten times.

So you don’t believe Genesis one is the word of God? Ok.

Oh, so they are sins are they? How judgemental of you!!!!!!

I picked those two issues because they are hot topics in politics in case you didn’t know.

Can you tell me where I gave an optional choice Where I suggested inflicting Jesus’ teaching on the rest of society. No. Because I never said that. You Are very loose with the truth

I didn’t debate against any answer because the only one who answered the OP was YTown. As far as I remember

I brought False prophets Because obviously you have to judge in order to discern false prophets.

How judgemental of you to call me a false prophet or insinuate, I might be. Do you know you keep accusing me of being judgemental but the only one that’s being judgemental is really you You are very good at projection. 🤣 and you even called LGBT a sin!!!😮. And it’s ludicrous and a lie to suggest that I claim to be prophet. Why do you keep making stuff up? What’s wrong with you, man?

I have read it many times in English and in Greek It’s talking about discernment. Judge not in Matthew 7:1 is talking about condemnation. I have condemned no one. There are at least two Greek words that are translated judge. One means to condemn as in Matthew 7:1 And the other means to discern or to discern rightly. I have never condemned anyone, So you’re accusations or false. Don’t forget friend that every idle word you speak will be judged by Jesus according to his word not societies The law and standard that you will be judged by is the law of God not the law of man. And God judges every idle word

You strike me as someone who would probably support banning or censoring the Bible if the issue ever was put up for choice

Well, I believe the Bible and the Bible says you’re wrong. 😀. We were talking about the Bible And whether or not it teaches 7000 year year-old earth and it teaches a beginning which indicates time and that’s cut and dry no matter what your philosophical jargon says

Try to remember what we’re talking about

But you do believe God was the first to measure time and that was before man existed, right?

So why are you marching off to battle with atheists against the Bible?

Reality check.

So you weren't really done with this thread then?

This is my shocked face.

Consider all the additional posts, after his post saying he's not going to post any more, as Appendices.... Each one essentially saying "I'm right and your wrong. Nana nana booboo"

What you didn’t read where I said if you keep replying to me, I might have to keep replying? Why are you being dishonest?

A friendly reminder for Mr. selective memory Frank. 🤣. You guys are hilarious. 🤣🤣🤣

Read the second paragraph of my post above 🤣and what about when I said “if not”. Amazing!!! Do you need glasses?

I wasn't replying to you.

Don't blame me for your behavior.

Religion is the cause of just about every war in world history, and every unresolved argument on DT.

This thread is the proof. Congrats. Praise the Lord. blessem

Read the title.

Atheists came to argue, not me.

Except Pit. He just reads things that aren’t there. He quoted me as saying at least 20 things I didn’t.

And Frank. He doesn’t read things that are. He needs glasses.

😀

Oh and Purp doesn’t believe in carbon dating that dates anything before man exists, because time only exists when man constructs it.


And no one knows how to stay on topic

And people like perfect spiral cry when you call someone genius AFTER he calls you an uneducated ——hat unprovoked. Similtaneously breaking two rules.

And some other guy talks about people’s mothers.

And the only people who call names are atheists.

And only one person actually replies to the OP in over a thousand posts.

Because some questions are off-limits. Don’t go there or you’ll be sorry.

And it’s all the fault of religion.

Fine argument there.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Atheists and one liberal theology Christian are the first cause and only cause of arguing in this thread.

So says the guy Who simultaneously breaks two rules by calling someone An Uneducated —- hat (curse word) . Without provocation 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

talk about projection.

What a joke.

Sure thing Ve... Stiffarm

Steven Hawking believed time existed before the Big Bang.

Glad you all know more than Hawking. 🤣

According to TechTimes, Hawking says during the show that before the Big Bang, time was bent — "It was always reaching closer to nothing but didn't become nothing," according to the article. Essentially, "there was never a Big Bang that produced something from nothing. It just seemed that way from mankind's point of perspective."

https://www.livescience.com/61914-stephen-hawking-neil-degrasse-tyson-beginning-of-time.html

Time has existed since the Big Bang.

“What does seem clear is that, ever since the Big Bang, time has only moved in one direction. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231115-how-did-time-begin-and-how-will-it-end

According to the standard big bang model of cosmology, time began together with the universe in a singularity approximately 14 billion years ago.
http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu › ...PDF
Did time have a beginning? - PhilSci-Archi

So much purp’s equivocation.

This is what I posted. Please note second paragraph.

quote=FrankZ][quote=Stiffarm]

By the way, you’re not a careful reader. I didn’t say I wanted to parting shot I just asked not to be replied to That doesn’t stop you from replying to the thread.

But I am already anticipating a particular thing that someone is going to say that I will definitely have to reply to. I have a pretty good idea of what the most logical reply to earlier post would be, and if it comes, I will have to answer.

If not, cheers and cherio, Turtle man. 👍

As "Chicago" said in song, "Does anybody really know what time it is?".

MGH is Just like the DNC. Deceptive editing through partial quoting and ommission of context. 🤣 (he omitted half the paragraph and all the context, just like the Democrats do.)Here’s what I really said.

“I’m going to try to make this my last post, since we’re not getting anywhere. I would appreciate it if no one replies to this thread if you do not reply to this thread I will not reply to this thread further.

He omitted everything after “if” to CHANGE the meaning of the post. Just like Dems always do with Trump.

You know your position is weak when you have to edit the other person’s posts.

Good teaching moment here of how the other side has worked in this thread. 😮

I don’t think anyone does.

Maybe it’s time to install a rule against deceptive editing and deliberately omitting context to change the meaning of someone’s words like MGH just did.

Spitting image of most of the DNC

🤣

I posted your words - without commentary. For comedic affect, not to do anything else. You look like someone trying too hard to be offended - it's a trait I have often found in those professing to be deeply religious. 👍 See what I did there? If you're having trouble following along with that jest - go back and read what you wrote about 419 of your posts back.

But just so I have this right - you wrote a post saying this is your last word on the thread .... unless someone else says something in which case you'll be back to have last word?

Ελπίζω να έχετε ένα ευλογημένο Σαββατοκύριακο

I’m not offended at all. I just think light needs to be shone on deception. You omitted words in order to change the meaning of a post. And yes, if someone posts something that I feel needs to be addressed, I will respond. And as far as being offended, why would I be offended when several people manifested exactly what I figured they would manifest. That was one of the objectives I had in posting the thread. 😀. Not the only, but one.

My thread was a catalyst that brought the reality of several things to the surface. One was the clear intolerance among atheists, secular humanists, and liberal theology Christians. A second is that some liberal theology Christians know what the Bible teaches, but try to forbid people to talk about it. Anti-free speech.


But again, I see careless readers. I said why don’t you talk among yourselves and not respond to me. In that case I wouldn’t have the last word, would I? You either did not read that or deliberately omitted it.

I imagine that you were misled by Frank, who was the first to misrepresent my words through partial quoting. Which makes him like the DNC (partial quoting/deceptive editing) and you are like the average Democrat, believing and spreading it.

you have a blessed and happy weekend too Thanks for including some Greek 😀

This is what I posted. Please note second paragraph.

quote=FrankZ]
I have been involved in online forum and BBS management for over 30 years. Yours was not even a clever attempt of "shut up so I can have the last word" parting shot shtick.

Thanks for putting my quotes in your sig. You didn’t quote the exact wording tho.

I’m flattered. BTW it’s asshats. And it was “ Religion is the cause of just about every war in world history, and every unresolved argument on DT. “

Next time get it right or I may have to assume you’re mostly uneducated or trying to twist things around like extremely religious people usually do.

Hey purp aren’t we supposed to put the exact quote when doing this?