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I don’t need a damn verbatim quote, I heard his rhetoric from his disgusting mouth. And I don’t feel the need to educate you when you are obviously stuck on Trump. Oh, and exact word quotes are hard to produce from his constant mouth diarrhea word salads. Just listening to him drone on and on about how messed up America is and how it’s all hopeless without him. Dude is a fascist racist turd that you will never be able to polish here.

Trump asked Republicans to object to electors the same way that the Democrats attempted to object to electers in 2016

I'll wait and see how the case turns out before I form an opinion on "fake" electors. To me it seems like they were appointing electors in case the electors that Trump wanted challenged were sucessfully challenged.

NO, you just need a quote from Trump that says in so many words that he would use the military or national guard on opponents. It doesn't have to be exact, just in so many words that Trump would use military or national guard on opponents. Any synonyms will do.

There’s your proof, don’t choke on it, DUPE.

The meaning and intention is pretty clear no matter what someone wants to try and argue what the definition of is is.... to be honest it sounds like it's another dog whistle like 'lock her up' - it gets the base frothing at the mouth and ignoring the total lack of substance that Trump has on other issues - and ignoring so many of his former inner circle stating from up close and personal knowledge that the guy is unfit for office.

🤣oh my gosh! What’s wrong with you man? That’s the quote in response to violent agitators on ELECTION DAY. The one that I said that they took out of context. You’re the one who’s duped!

Don’t you read the posts?!!

🤣yeah if you think Trump will have power to use military on ELECTION DAY!! you guys are unbelievable!!

This is why context is important.

BARTIROMO: I'm just wondering if these outside agitators will start up on Election Day. Let's say you win, I mean let's remember, you've got 50,000 Chinese nationals in this country in the last couple of years, you have people on the terrorist watchlist, 350 in the last couple of years. You've got — like you said — 13,000 murderers and 15,000 rapists. What are you expecting? Joe Biden said he doesn't think it's going to be a peaceful Election Day.

TRUMP: Well, he doesn't have any idea what's happening in all fairness. He spends most of his day sleeping. I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even the people that have come and… and destroying our country and, by the way, totally destroying our country. The towns and villages, they're being inundated. But I don't think they're the problem in terms of Election Day. I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical-left lunatics. And I think… and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary by National Guard or if really necessary by the military, because they can't let that happen. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣[u][/u]

Yes it is so maybe you should just stop trying to deny it now.

Yes it means Biden can use military or national guard if violence occurs on election day.

Read the quote in full context in the OP. 😀

Read the reply I gave you and stop lying about it.

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Read the OP and inform yourself. The only time Trump mentioned using the military, He did not say he would use it first of all. He said it “could take care of it”. No mention of who would wield it. Secondly, the question he was replying to was In reference to election day, When he would have no authority to use the military, Thirdly, the question was in reference to violent agitators not political opponents,fourthly, Trump would have no authority to use the military or National Guard on election day because he will not be president yet.

Boom.

Claiming that I should trust anything a 34 time convicted felon, a man a jury found to have sexually assaulted a women, whose charity was closed because it was crooked and he had to pay 2 million in restitution, a man who conned students by using a fake university and tells multiple lies every time he holds a rally is your issue, not mine. And just think, you're the one who claims you care about honesty.

You're arguing with a guy that spent years here promoting the laptop, 'fine people on both sides', & 'bloodbath' lies, among others. If I were you, I wouldn't waste your time.

And for years you're one of the people pretending he didn't say those things. Speaking of a waste of time.....

Lil stiffie has been caught in numerous lies here yet says everyone else is lying.

Trump said he’d use the military on the “enemy within” numerous times. Calling out Pelosi and Shift. But you know Goper’s, they need to cover up and walk everything Trump says back and spin it, then split hairs and then project their every flaw on to their opponents.

Well I'm pretty certain that when you listen to the "good people on both sides" comment in it's entirety it is Not what and how you are trying to Make it sound. Using that as an example of what a POS trump is when there is so much material weakens your argument... Jmo

Actually, he NEVER said that. Never.

Now it’s your job to prove me wrong.

The quote in the video says “…the military and National Guard can handle it (In Context, it is violent agitators and the when is election day.

Look at the question that was asked before his reply.

He said “they were good people on both sides and I’m not talking about neo-Nazis and white supremacists who should be totally condemned”


This is the whole point. Democrats take things out of context and you guys fall for hook line and sinker this silly argument about using the military against opponents or American citizens is the Is the fallacy of taking two different context, two different quotes from two different times from two different contexts, Talking about two different subjects and smashing them together like a Frankenstein it’s a ridiculously poor and Lobotomized argument

Sniffarm is trying to move the goal posts… he asked for anyone to show him where Trump said he would use the military day one against his political enemies… I provided the fascist rats own words saying exactly that, and now he wants to argue lexical semantics against Trumps word salads…

Hey DAY ONE doesn’t mean election day. Nothing will happen on election day, other than Trump will start his bluster about the election being stolen as soon as it’s obvious he lost. The only way the military comes out that day is if MAGA does dumb ish.

So, are you going to fACE FACTS and admit Trump is fascist now?

Do you mean like trump claiming you can't cross the street without getting mugged, shot or raped while violent crime has actually gone down since he left office? That kind of misinformation? Or doesn't that count?

REPOST FOR TRUTH.

The issue is that Democrats know that some people don’t know how to interpret a quote according to context (they don’t care to), so the Democrats take things out of context and completely abuse what the person actually said and make it mean something else because they know you won’t fact check and if someone points it out to you, you won’t listen because you don’t know how to interpret Text or or statements according to their context. In fact you think it’s OK to smash two different conversations on two different topics in two different contexts at two different times and pretend like they were the same conversation at the same time on the same topic in the same context. that’s fallacious as you can get

He ignores what trump said when it comes out of that side of his mouth.

So you never addressed all of the lies that trump constantly says at his rallies. You know the one's I've posted links to several times or the lies FOX News repeats on a daily basis. Why is that?

Watch the video again. He never said he would use the military against his opponents. He never even said he would use the military against anybody in that video You need to watch it over and over again until you comprehend what was said and I would also suggest looking at the quote in full context or listening to the quote in full context so that you can see the question that was asked in that context

Also, you cannot take two different quotes, From two different different conversations, On two different topics, At two different times, And two different contexts And smash them together like a verbal Frankenstein monster. Neither language nor logic works that way

So that Leads us to one Conclusion. Trump never said he would use the military against his enemies or …

I can’t remember the posters handle but they got perm banned for going full on racist posting some of the worst that was ever posted here. Anyway, a year or three later there was a new-ish poster that said we should reinstate him. And that poster sounded just like Sniffarm, PIT.

He thought Trump was being literal when he said bloodbath? My goodness, it’s worse than I thought.

If They can’t tell between literal and metaphor, How do they read anything?

Try working on this to at least pretend you're not partisan and slanted as hell.......

Fact check: Debunking 16 false claims Trump made at Madison Square Garden

Former President Donald Trump repeated a series of false claims, many of which have long been debunked, about immigration and other subjects in his speech at a Sunday evening rally at Madison Square Garden in New York City.

Here is a fact check of 16 false claims he made in the speech.

FEMA and North Carolina: Trump falsely claimed of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s response to Hurricane Helene: “They haven’t even responded in North Carolina. They haven’t even responded. There’s nobody, they don’t see any FEMA.” This is not even close to true; FEMA immediately responded to the disaster in North Carolina and said Friday that it had more than 1,700 staff deployed in the state. FEMA said on October 16 that it had approved more than $100 million in individual aid to North Carolina residents.

At a briefing in early October, North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, a Democrat, said, “We’re grateful for the quick actions and close communications that we have had with the president and with the FEMA team.” State emergency management director Will Ray said at the briefing: “We’re grateful for the support not just from the 22 states that have sent teams to support us but also from our FEMA team and other members of the federal family.”

FEMA and migrants: Trump falsely claimed that FEMA didn’t respond in North Carolina because “they spent their money on bringing in illegal migrants, so they didn’t have money for Georgia and North Carolina and Alabama and Tennessee and Florida and South Carolina.” He repeated, “They didn’t have any money for them. They spent all of their money on bringing in illegal immigrants.”

FEMA did not spend its disaster relief money on undocumented people.

Congress appropriated the agency more than $35 billion in disaster relief funds for fiscal 2024, according to official FEMA statistics, and also gave FEMA a much smaller pool of money, $650 million in fiscal 2024, for a program aimed at helping communities shelter migrants. Contrary to Trump’s claims, these are two separate pots of funds.

Trump’s favorite immigration chart: Trump repeated his long-debunked false claim that his favorite chart about migration numbers at the southern border — which he had fortunately turned his head to look at when a gunman tried to kill him at a campaign rally in July — has an arrow at the bottom pointing to “the day I left office,” when, he said, the US had “the lowest illegal immigration that we’ve ever had in recorded history.”

The chart doesn’t show that. In fact, the arrow actually points to April 2020, when Trump still had more than eight months left in his term and when global migration had slowed to a trickle because of the Covid-19 pandemic. After hitting a roughly three-year low (not an all-time low) in April 2020, migration numbers at the southern border increased each month through the end of Trump’s term.

Harris’ border role: Trump repeated these false claims about Vice President Kamala Harris: “She was the border czar. She was in charge of the border.” Harris was never “border czar,” a label the White House has always emphasized is inaccurate, and she was never in charge of border security, a responsibility of Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas. In reality, President Joe Biden gave Harris a more limited immigration-related assignment in 2021, asking her to lead diplomacy with El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras in an attempt to address the conditions that prompted their citizens to try to migrate to the United States.

Migrants, cities and towns: Trump repeated his vow that, if elected, he would liberate every “city and town that has been invaded and conquered” by migrants. This is nonsense; no US town has been conquered by migrants.

Migrants in Springfield, Ohio: Trump falsely claimed: “You take a look at Springfield, Ohio, think of this – where, think of this, where 30,000 illegal migrants were put into a town of 50,000 people.”

This is false in more than one way. While we don’t know the immigration status of each and every Haitian immigrant in Springfield, the community is, on the whole, in the country lawfully. The Springfield city website says, “YES, Haitian immigrants are here legally, under the Immigration Parole Program. Once here, immigrants are then eligible to apply for Temporary Protected Status (TPS).” Republican Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine wrote in a New York Times op-ed about Springfield in September that the Haitian immigrants “are there legally” and that, as a Trump-Vance supporter, he is “saddened” by the candidates’ disparagement of “the legal migrants living in Springfield.”

Second, nobody “put” the immigrants into Springfield; the city’s Haitian residents were not sent there by a government resettlement program. Rather, they independently decided to move to the city because of employment opportunities, affordable housing and the presence of a Haitian community, among other factors.

And while there is no official tally of the number of immigrants in Springfield, Trump’s “30,000” figure exceeds local estimates. The website for the city of Springfield says there are an estimated 12,000 to 15,000 immigrants in the county that includes Springfield, where the total population is about 138,000. Chris Cook, the county’s health commissioner, said in July that his team estimated the best number was 10,000 to 12,000 Haitian residents in the county.

“Missing” migrant children: Trump repeated his regular false claim that, because of Harris, “325,000 children are missing, dead, sex slaves or slaves. They came through the open border and they’re gone. Their parents will most likely never see them again, almost any of them.”

Trump was wildly distorting federal statistics.

He appeared to be referring to an August report from the Homeland Security Department’s Office of Inspector General, which said ICE reported more than 32,000 unaccompanied migrant children failed to appear as scheduled for immigration court hearings after being released or transferred out of custody between fiscal years 2019 and 2023 – a period that, notably, includes two years and four months under the Trump administration. The report also said that 291,000 unaccompanied migrant children during this period were not given notices to appear in court.

The report said that ICE has “no assurances” these children “are safe from trafficking, exploitation, or forced labor.” But it did not definitively assert that any of them were being exploited – let alone that almost all of them have vanished for good.

Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, senior fellow at the American Immigration Council, told CNN in a message this summer: “Long story short, no, there are not 320,000 kids missing. 32,000 kids missed court. That doesn’t mean they’re missing, it means they missed court (either because their sponsor didn’t bring them or they are teenagers who didn’t want to show up). The remaining 291,000 cases mentioned by the OIG are cases where ICE hasn’t filed the paperwork to start their immigration court cases.”

Trump’s rally crowd in Butler, Pennsylvania: Trump repeated his wild exaggeration that there were “101,000 people” at the campaign rally he held earlier this month at the same Pennsylvania site where a gunman tried to kill him in July. CNN affiliate KDKA in Pittsburgh reported that the Secret Service put the crowd at 24,000 people, while the Trump-supporting sheriff of Blair County, Pennsylvania, James Ott, said in his speech at the rally itself (more than three hours before Trump took the stage) that he was looking out at “21,000-plus people.”

Trump and the Nord Stream 2 pipeline: Trump repeated his false claim that he “ended” the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline from Russia to Germany, adding, “It was dead.” Trump did not kill the pipeline. He signed sanctions related to the project into law about three years into his presidency, when the pipeline was already about 90% complete, and the state-owned Russian company behind the project announced in December 2020 that construction was resuming.

Trump and the defeat of ISIS: Trump repeated his false claim that “it took us like four weeks” to defeat the ISIS terror group even though generals had told him it would take five years. The ISIS “caliphate” was declared fully liberated more than two years into Trump’s presidency.

Trump and inflation: Trump falsely claimed that, when he was president, “we had no inflation.” Cumulative inflation during Trump’s presidency was about 8%.

Harris and inflation: Trump falsely claimed that Harris’ votes to break legislative ties in the US Senate “caused the worst inflation in the history of our country.” Aside from the claim about Harris’ role, it’s not true the US has had its worst inflation ever during the Biden administration; Trump could fairly say that the US inflation rate hit a 40-year high in June 2022, when it was 9.1%, but that was not close to the all-time record of 23.7%, set in 1920. (And the rate has since plummeted. The most recent available inflation rate at the time Trump spoke here was 2.4% in September.)

Harris and law enforcement: Trump touted his endorsements from police officers and law enforcement organizations, then falsely said of Harris: “I don’t think they have one cop. They’re looking for just one cop.” In early September, 101 current and former law enforcement officials, including active sheriffs, police chiefs and other senior officers, released a letter endorsing Harris. A Michigan sheriff gave a televised speech endorsing Harris at the Democratic National Convention in August, as did a former Capitol Police officer who was injured when Trump supporters stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021.

Trump’s border wall: The former president repeated his false claim that he “built 571 miles of wall” on the southern border. That’s a significant exaggeration; official government data shows 458 miles were built under Trump — including both wall built where no barriers had existed before and wall built to replace previous barriers.

Trump and the military: The former president repeated his false claim that “I rebuilt our military, in total — rebuilt all of our military.”

Trump has previously made clear that he is claiming to have replaced all of the military’s equipment. “This claim is not even close to being true. The military has tens of thousands of pieces of equipment, and the vast majority of it predates the Trump administration,” Todd Harrison, an expert on the defense budget and a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, told CNN in November 2023, after Trump made a version of the claim.

Harrison said in an email at the time: “Moreover, the process of acquiring new equipment for the military is slow and takes many years. It’s not remotely possible to replace even half of the military’s inventory of equipment in one presidential term. I just ran the numbers for military aircraft, and about 88% of the aircraft in the U.S. military inventory today (including Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marine Corps aircraft) were built before Trump took office. In terms of fighters in particular, we still have F-16s and F- 15s in the Air Force that are over 40 years old.”

The 2020 election: Trump repeated his false claim that his opponents “used Covid to cheat” in the 2020 election. There is no basis for the claim that the Democrats cheated; many states, including states with Republican election chiefs and Republican governors, modified their election procedures because of the Covid-19 pandemic.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/27/poli...-claims-madison-square-garden/index.html

Or will it simply be the sound of crickets from you again?

Since you seem to think you are some expert on knowing the difference when trump says crazy things is what's worse than anyone thought it could be. You'll invent any excuse to make false claims between when he's being serious and when he's not. You sound like FOX News.

When you live in reality, you realize that citizens are not supposed have to interpret their leader’s words meaning like some CrackerJacks’ decoder ring cipher. Nope. In reality, Donnie is a dumbass fascist. And neither you nor memphis will admit it after I POSTED THE WORDS FROM TRUMPS MOUTH. “Trump is fascist to his core” ~ General Milley quote. That’s all the evidence anyone needs to know who Trump is and the words from his own mouth prove it to be true.

He has y’all out here sweating boogiemen while he’s pulling a Hitler with Putin pulling the strings. How blind and stupid do you have to be to still support this garbage dump of a human being? Sickening.

Maybe dupes are why history is doomed to repeat itself.

J/C

I'm just glad I haven't had to go through the lengths of posting a gazillion times or spamming the entire board with Twitter posts trying (and failing) to twist and grasp at straws in defense of a completely horrible candidate, like Trump, who cares nothing about anyone but himself. I thought we were supposed to be the emblem of divergence away from a monarchy, but I guess we've come full circle, for half the country at least.

Half the country? Not even close. We’re in a place where anybody that’s says the bat craziest crap the loudest gets the attention.

Hmmm…so you’ve given up trying to rebut the OP? Ok. Thanks for taking part in the discussion.

Trump didn’t said he would use military or national guard on opponents.

The only attempt to provide proof he did was a video that showed a quote about Biden potentially using them to control violent agitators on election day.

This is the quote that old cold’ video was about. Please show me where Trump said he would even use the military for anything.

BARTIROMO: I'm just wondering if these outside agitators will start up on election day Let's say you win, I mean let's remember, you've got 50,000 Chinese nationals in this country in the last couple of years, you have people on the terrorist watchlist, 350 in the last couple of years. You've got — like you said — 13,000 murderers and 15,000 rapists. What are you expecting? Joe Biden said he doesn't think it's going to be a peaceful election day

TRUMP: Well, he doesn't have any idea what's happening in all fairness. He spends most of his day sleeping. I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even the people that have come and… and destroying our country and, by the way, totally destroying our country. The towns and villages, they're being inundated. But I don't think they're the problem in terms of [color:#FF660[color:#3366FF][/color]0]election day[/color]. I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical-left lunatics. And I think… and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard or if really necessary by the military, because THEYcan't let that happen.

The text in red shows the topic they were talking about. The text in blue is the quote is where he supposedly said he would use the military.

Notice, they’re talking about election day, and there is no mention by Trump that he would use the military. In fact, on election day, he would not have presidential authority to call the military or guard. So the only attempt to show Trump saying what the media said he did is invalid.

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Just noticed this. At the end of the quote old cold dog’s video provided, he said THEY can’t let it happen (speaking of why they might or should use the military to contr violent agitators should the need arise.) THEY, not HE. He’s not talking about himself using the military in that clip.

The guy that made the video duped you all.



checkmate.

I have to laugh about thinking that Trump would "use the military" to go get an 83 year old lady (Pelosi) or Schiff...

I bet Don the Con has dreams of Seal Team 6 showing up at their houses...

DOJ or FBI is much more plausible or probable.... Just not as visually interesting.

Ralphie and "A Christmas Story" scenario.

I don’t know why Biden would go after Pelosi of Schiff. I mean, he would be the one who would have authority to use the military on election day.

Have you not read the context of the quote that the Dems and media are using? 🤔

If anyone actually took the time to check the media’s’ claims out for themselves, we wouldn’t be Having these debates.

if you actually act like a reasonable thinking adult and go check the context of these claims with honest eyes, You would see that when Trump said “root out the enemies” of within he was talking about voting people out through the democratic process. You don’t know this because the media didn’t tell you and you didn’t care to check

What are the characteristics of fascist governments and communist governments? Is that they use the media to mislead the people with propaganda. Using comments made to get people to go out and vote, And then insinuating debt voting is the same thing as violently going after your enemies would be political propaganda that only the most careless would believe

The full context Of that speech can be found at https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump...aremont-new-hampshire-november-11-2023/. Last several paragraphs Debate responsibly and check your facts 😀