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"We had to fight the enemy without in the Falklands. We always have to be aware of the enemy within, which is much more difficult to fight and more dangerous to liberty." ~ Margaret Thatcher

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When Trump said “ root out the enemy within” he was talking about using the Democratic process and peaceful methods.

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Donald Trump 01:42:11-01:42:31 (19 sec)
We have to come up with votes because there's a point at which they're cheating, can't get it done. There s a point at which the cheating can't get it done, so get every patriot you know and get them out to deliver a massive victory in the primary. But honestly, more importantly, in the election, the primary.
Donald Trump 01:42:31-01:43:01 (30 sec)
Let's get the primary done first. We'll be back here many times, but we got to get the primary done first. So join our campaign by visiting nh.donaldjtrump.com or text Trump to 88022, OK? 2024 is our final battle. With you at my side, and you've been at my side from the beginning, we will demolish the deep state.
Donald Trump 01:43:01-01:43:23 (22 sec)
We'll expel -- we're going to expel those horrible, horrible warmongers from our government. They want to fight everybody. They want to kill people all over the place, places we've never heard about before, places that want to be left alone. We will drive out the globalists. We will cast out the communists, Marxists, fascists.
Donald Trump 01:43:23-01:43:52 (29 sec)
We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country. We will rout the fake news media until they become real. We will evict Joe Biden from the White House, and we will finish the job that we started better than anybody has ever started a job before. The great silent majority is rising like never before.
Donald Trump 01:43:52-01:44:35 (44 sec)
And under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten no longer. You're going to be forgotten no longer. With your help, your love, and your vote, we will put America first. And today, especially in honor of our great veterans on Veterans Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections and will do anything possible, they'll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American dream.
Donald Trump 01:44:35-01:45:13 (38 sec)

The real threat is not from the radical right. The real threat is from the radical left, and it's growing every day, every single day. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they're not going to want to play with us, and they didn't. Despite the hatred and anger of the radical left lunatics who want to destroy our country, we will make America great again.
[/u][u][u][/u] https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump...laremont-new-hampshire-november-11-2023/

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When trump had invited a self described nazi, Nick Fuentes, to his golf course making sure to keep that demographic voting for him, you dont consider that condoning nazi ideology and spreading nazi rhetoric?

for a self-described christian, all you've done since joining this board is defend the most vile bigoted crap imaginable. As somebody who is of mixed race (black/PR/Turkish) i would absolutely never hang out with you in real life. you are on a roll with defending the indefensible. i would absolutely feel unsafe around you and the people you hang out with.


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Actually, my only goal was to expose the lies of the Dems and media.

If you don’t have a rebuttal for what I see regarding those things I call lies, that would amount to ceding the point in a formal debate.

Fuentes sounds like a Latin name. Just like some of the proud boys are black and Latin. So you can criticize many things about them, I suppose, but you can’t call them all white supremecists.

Just like it’s ludicrous to call Jews at MSG Nazis.

So anyways, do you see how the media clearly lied when they said Trump said that he was going to use the military against American citizens. this quote right here shows in the quote’s context, Trump is talking about voting, ousting the enemies of America through voting. If you want to call that fascist, go ahead and look silly. In the second abused quote that they uses, Trump was talking about a hypothetical situation on ELECTION DAY, when Trump will have no military

So think it’s pretty well established By the context of the abused quotes that the media, Kamala, Biden (said Trump supporters are garbage ), and rest of the paraders of Raiders ofpernicious propaganda lied about what Trump meant and said. Once this has been established, all of your pros have become death rattles of your argument

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you do understand that most latinos are still white/european, right? like Fuentes is a last name from Spain.

a European country.

a white european country.

which means latinos are a mixture of europeans and indigenous people who were successfully colonized.

so no, what his name sounds like doesnt matter at all. so now you've proven to not only defend the indefensible, but you know absolutely jack crap about your fellow americans.

keep it going bro, this is entertaining.


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Originally Posted by Swish
you do understand that most latinos are still white/european, right? like Fuentes is a last name from Spain.

a European country.

a white european country.

which means latinos are a mixture of europeans and indigenous people who were successfully colonized.

so no, what his name sounds like doesnt matter at all. so now you've proven to not only defend the indefensible, but you know absolutely jack crap about your fellow americans.

keep it going bro, this is entertaining.

Well, all I know is that Trump denied knowing that Kanye was going to bring Fuentes and he said he didn’t know anything about Fuentes, I kind of suspect he didn’t know that proud boys are White supremacist, (oh, wait, Not all of them are white) I’ll go ahead and believe Trump because all he’s ever done is condemn white supremacy and all the Democrats have ever done is believe Donald Trump. He makes a lot of statements about things that he doesn’t have knowledge of, but you have to show evidence that he Fuentes was a white supremacist to show evidence that he knew that Nick Fuentes was coming Innocent and white supremacy constantly condemn Nazis is evidence in Trump’s favor.

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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
When Trump said “ root out the enemy within” he was talking about using the Democratic process and peaceful methods.

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Donald Trump 01:42:11-01:42:31 (19 sec)
We have to come up with votes because there's a point at which they're cheating, can't get it done. There s a point at which the cheating can't get it done, so get every patriot you know and get them out to deliver a massive victory in the primary. But honestly, more importantly, in the election, the primary.
Donald Trump 01:42:31-01:43:01 (30 sec)
Let's get the primary done first. We'll be back here many times, but we got to get the primary done first. So join our campaign by visiting nh.donaldjtrump.com or text Trump to 88022, OK? 2024 is our final battle. With you at my side, and you've been at my side from the beginning, we will demolish the deep state.
Donald Trump 01:43:01-01:43:23 (22 sec)
We'll expel -- we're going to expel those horrible, horrible warmongers from our government. They want to fight everybody. They want to kill people all over the place, places we've never heard about before, places that want to be left alone. We will drive out the globalists. We will cast out the communists, Marxists, fascists.
Donald Trump 01:43:23-01:43:52 (29 sec)
We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country. We will rout the fake news media until they become real. We will evict Joe Biden from the White House, and we will finish the job that we started better than anybody has ever started a job before. The great silent majority is rising like never before.
Donald Trump 01:43:52-01:44:35 (44 sec)
And under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten no longer. You're going to be forgotten no longer. With your help, your love, and your vote, we will put America first. And today, especially in honor of our great veterans on Veterans Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections and will do anything possible, they'll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American dream.
Donald Trump 01:44:35-01:45:13 (38 sec)

The real threat is not from the radical right. The real threat is from the radical left, and it's growing every day, every single day. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they're not going to want to play with us, and they didn't. Despite the hatred and anger of the radical left lunatics who want to destroy our country, we will make America great again.
[/u][u][u][/u] https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump...laremont-new-hampshire-november-11-2023/

And I’d like to hear you explain how the media got the idea that Trump was going to send a military after American citizens from this text above. Or am I the only one that answers challenges.

You’re acting like Kamala with your non- answers.

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Now that I’ve answered your Objection that doesn’t prove anything, Are you ready to answer my question Which I asked first?

Here it is again?

Question; How do you get the idea that Trump was going to use the military against the American citizens From the following words?

When Trump said “ root out the enemy within” he was talking about using the Democratic process and peaceful methods.

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Donald Trump 01:42:11-01:42:31 (19 sec)
We have to come up with votes because there's a point at which they're cheating, can't get it done. There s a point at which the cheating can't get it done, so get every patriot you know and get them out to deliver a massive victory in the primary. But honestly, more importantly, in the election, the primary.
Donald Trump 01:42:31-01:43:01 (30 sec)
Let's get the primary done first. We'll be back here many times, but we got to get the primary done first. So join our campaign by visiting nh.donaldjtrump.com or text Trump to 88022, OK? 2024 is our final battle. With you at my side, and you've been at my side from the beginning, we will demolish the deep state.
Donald Trump 01:43:01-01:43:23 (22 sec)
We'll expel -- we're going to expel those horrible, horrible warmongers from our government. They want to fight everybody. They want to kill people all over the place, places we've never heard about before, places that want to be left alone. We will drive out the globalists. We will cast out the communists, Marxists, fascists.
Donald Trump 01:43:23-01:43:52 (29 sec)
We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country. We will rout the fake news media until they become real. We will evict Joe Biden from the White House, and we will finish the job that we started better than anybody has ever started a job before. The great silent majority is rising like never before.
Donald Trump 01:43:52-01:44:35 (44 sec)
And under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten no longer. You're going to be forgotten no longer. With your help, your love, and your vote, we will put America first. And today, especially in honor of our great veterans on Veterans Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections and will do anything possible, they'll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American dream.
Donald Trump 01:44:35-01:45:13 (38 sec)
The real threat is not from the radical right. The real threat is from the radical left, and it's growing every day, every single day. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they're not going to want to play with us, and they didn't. Despite the hatred and anger of the radical left lunatics who want to destroy our country, we will make America great again.
[/u][u] https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump...laremont-new-hampshire-november-11-2023/

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Just an FYI- You are engaging with a poster who routinely calls people racist and white supremacists when offering a differing opinion and stance politically than his own. It's up to you, but again, I wouldn't waste your time.


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why are you so salty? got me on ignore but cant keep my name out your mouth. Beta maaaale lololol


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Just an FYI- You are engaging with a poster who routinely calls people racist and white supremacists when offering a differing opinion and stance politically than his own. It's up to you, but again, I wouldn't waste your time.

I would say that Joe Biden is racist and white supremacist because he believes that non whites don’t know how to use computers and are unable to get identification cards, And he says, if you don’t vote for him, you’re not black and poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids.

And people like Swish are ok with that.

Hope he didn’t vote for Biden. 😮

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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Just an FYI- You are engaging with a poster who routinely calls people racist and white supremacists when offering a differing opinion and stance politically than his own. It's up to you, but again, I wouldn't waste your time.

I would say that Joe Biden is racist and white supremacist because he believes that non whites don’t know how to use computers and are unable to get identification cards, And he says, if you don’t vote for him, you’re not black and poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids.

And people like Swish are ok with that.

Hope he didn’t vote for Biden. 😮

i voted for him so im black. all good bro, unless you want me to vote for the guy that got sued by the federal government twice for not renting to black people? that who youre voting for, stiff


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If you don't want to be called a Nazi stop quoting Hitler.



Stop espousing his claims. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.....

The Lincoln Project is ran by Republicans.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Just an FYI- You are engaging with a poster who routinely calls people racist and white supremacists when offering a differing opinion and stance politically than his own. It's up to you, but again, I wouldn't waste your time.

Thank you, I appreciate that. I don’t have any hope to change people who are deeply indoctrinated by their party so badly that they can equate ousting Democrats from office by voting with sending the military after them, Or who are gullible enough to believe that Trump can use the military or National Guard against his opponents on election day when he’s not even president on that day. I mean, if you can believe that nonsense, you can believe anything.

And then whoever took Trump’s words about an economic bloodbath literally to mean a literal violent bloodbath, Someone like that It’s almost beyond Hope.

I’m not trying to convince anybody to vote for Trump. And I’m not trying to convince people who already have their Minds made up to believe absurdities without testing them. My posts are meant to warn about the current lies and coming barrage of lies that will shape our nation if the Democrats hold and get more control. So maybe even one person will be motivated to always fact check instead of bieving people who twisted the truth or political gain, Whether it’s Trump, Biden, etc. Test them all, believe nothing without searching it out.

Let God be true and every man a liar

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I don’t have any hope to change people who are deeply indoctrinated by their party so badly

It's not flattering when you talk about yourself this way no matter how true it is.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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I don’t have any hope to change people who are deeply indoctrinated by their party so badly

It's not flattering when you talk about yourself this way no matter how true it is.

Hey, I’m not the one that thinks ousting opponents through the voting booth is the same thing as sending the military after people. But okay…

Did you read the complete demolition of the “ Trump said he’s going to send a military after Americans” When the mere context was added to the quote? See above

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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Just an FYI- You are engaging with a poster who routinely calls people racist and white supremacists when offering a differing opinion and stance politically than his own. It's up to you, but again, I wouldn't waste your time.

Thank you, I appreciate that. I don’t have any hope to change people who are deeply indoctrinated by their party so badly that they can equate ousting Democrats from office by voting with sending the military after them, Or who are gullible enough to believe that Trump can use the military or National Guard against his opponents on election day when he’s not even president on that day. I mean, if you can believe that nonsense, you can believe anything.

And then whoever took Trump’s words about an economic bloodbath literally to mean a literal violent bloodbath, Someone like that It’s almost beyond Hope.

I’m not trying to convince anybody to vote for Trump. And I’m not trying to convince people who already have their Minds made up to believe absurdities without testing them. My posts are meant to warn about the current lies and coming barrage of lies that will shape our nation if the Democrats hold and get more control. So maybe even one person will be motivated to always fact check instead of bieving people who twisted the truth or political gain, Whether it’s Trump, Biden, etc. Test them all, believe nothing without searching it out.

Let God be true and every man a liar

imagine defending scumbags like trump and thinking God or Jesus wants anything to do with them.


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Hey, I’m not the one that thinks ousting opponents through the voting booth is the same thing as sending the military after people. But okay…

I have no idea why you think you can purposefully lie and people will believe you.


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Now back to the topic at hand............



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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Just an FYI- You are engaging with a poster who routinely calls people racist and white supremacists when offering a differing opinion and stance politically than his own. It's up to you, but again, I wouldn't waste your time.

Thank you, I appreciate that. I don’t have any hope to change people who are deeply indoctrinated by their party so badly that they can equate ousting Democrats from office by voting with sending the military after them, Or who are gullible enough to believe that Trump can use the military or National Guard against his opponents on election day when he’s not even president on that day. I mean, if you can believe that nonsense, you can believe anything.

And then whoever took Trump’s words about an economic bloodbath literally to mean a literal violent bloodbath, Someone like that It’s almost beyond Hope.

I’m not trying to convince anybody to vote for Trump. And I’m not trying to convince people who already have their Minds made up to believe absurdities without testing them. My posts are meant to warn about the current lies and coming barrage of lies that will shape our nation if the Democrats hold and get more control. So maybe even one person will be motivated to always fact check instead of bieving people who twisted the truth or political gain, Whether it’s Trump, Biden, etc. Test them all, believe nothing without searching it out.

Let God be true and every man a liar

imagine defending scumbags like trump and thinking God or Jesus wants anything to do with them.

I said my aim is not to defend Trump. My aim is expose The lies that have you duped. Did you see where adding the mere context to a quote completely demolished the “Trump is going to send troops after his opponents”. The context completely anhilated it. And the video you sent trying to argue for the same “rumor” was demolished by its own context as well. (Seeing that Trump will have no power to use the military on election day.).

But you choose to believe such easily debunked lies.

Regardless of who gets elected, Whatever the outcome, You are gonna look silly In a few years or sooner

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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
Regardless of who gets elected, Whatever the outcome, You are gonna look silly In a few years or sooner

Now you've moved on to self fulfilling prophecy?


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Regardless of who gets elected, Whatever the outcome, You are gonna look silly In a few years or sooner

Now you've moved on to self fulfilling prophecy?

That’s not prophecy I didn’t say this says the Lord. I’m not a prophet, just someone who reads things.

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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
That’s not prophecy I didn’t say this says the Lord. I’m not a prophet, just someone who reads things wrong.

There, I fixed it for you.

Now back to the topic at hand............



Anything? Anything at all? I'm guessing more crickets from you just like you ignore all the lies I post that he tells at every rally he holds.


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Now back to the topic at hand............


So “enemy from within” quotes have been shown to be a nothing burger, using military against Americans has been shown to be a lie and dictator from day one shown to be taken out of context and twisted, “fine white supremacists has been shown to be deceptively taken out of context, and many more. I’ll choose the next one to address And continue later

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I said my aim is not to defend Trump.

Now that's comedy gold right there. Amongst all the total BS you post this was a good one.


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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Just an FYI- You are engaging with a poster who routinely calls people racist and white supremacists when offering a differing opinion and stance politically than his own. It's up to you, but again, I wouldn't waste your time.

Thank you, I appreciate that. I don’t have any hope to change people who are deeply indoctrinated by their party so badly that they can equate ousting Democrats from office by voting with sending the military after them, Or who are gullible enough to believe that Trump can use the military or National Guard against his opponents on election day when he’s not even president on that day. I mean, if you can believe that nonsense, you can believe anything.

And then whoever took Trump’s words about an economic bloodbath literally to mean a literal violent bloodbath, Someone like that It’s almost beyond Hope.

I’m not trying to convince anybody to vote for Trump. And I’m not trying to convince people who already have their Minds made up to believe absurdities without testing them. My posts are meant to warn about the current lies and coming barrage of lies that will shape our nation if the Democrats hold and get more control. So maybe even one person will be motivated to always fact check instead of bieving people who twisted the truth or political gain, Whether it’s Trump, Biden, etc. Test them all, believe nothing without searching it out.

Let God be true and every man a liar

imagine defending scumbags like trump and thinking God or Jesus wants anything to do with them.

I said my aim is not to defend Trump. My aim is expose The lies that have you duped. Did you see where adding the mere context to a quote completely demolished the “Trump is going to send troops after his opponents”. The context completely anhilated it. And the video you sent trying to argue for the same “rumor” was demolished by its own context as well. (Seeing that Trump will have no power to use the military on election day.).

But you choose to believe such easily debunked lies.

Regardless of who gets elected, Whatever the outcome, You are gonna look silly In a few years or sooner

so again, everybody heard what he said with their own ears. you've convinced no one here NOT because people believed debunked lies, but because the facts don't care about your feelings. you're trying to tell people to not believe the things they literally heard and seen. seriously, stop gas lighting people.


you keep claiming your aim isn't to defend him, but you're clearly a terrible shot because that's what you keep doing.

so now, you keep defending the indefensible, don't know anything about your fellow americans, and can't be trusted at a shooting range. imma call you dick cheney.


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There are SEVERAL quotes he uses from Hitler. Try again. The topic is about exactly what I posted. When you keep quoting Hitler and employ the same political strategy Hitler employed in the beginning, that's why he gets compared to Hitler. But the truth escapes you.


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When a party calls itself
A party of unity
And calls millions of Americans Nazis and trash (faulty generalization)
Run away as fast as you can

The only Kind of unity that party can bring is forced unity with an iron fist.

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When a party selects a nominee who persistently quotes Hitler and then blames you for pointing that out...... When his message mirrors that of Hitler in the beginning and then blames you because you point it out..... When they lie and pretend that's not what's happening, run as fast as you can!


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If you don’t have a rebuttal for what I see regarding those things I call lies, that would amount to ceding the point in a formal debate.

Fuentes sounds like a Latin name. Just like some of the proud boys are black and Latin. So you can criticize many things about them, I suppose, but you can’t call them all white supremecists.
The above snippet is like a shining example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect (for debate). Your posts read like you watched a handful of Ben Shapiro clips and decided you wanted to be him.

We've had a handful of posters like you periodically visit the site, and you usually burn yourself out after a week or so.... I honestly can't wait.


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If you don't want to be compared to Hitler, stop sounding like Hitler...............

Trump’s growing threats to strip broadcast licenses send chills across industry

Broadcast television licensing is not ordinarily a hot topic during a presidential election. But Donald Trump’s threats are not ordinary, either.

In the past two years, Trump has called for every major American TV news network to be punished, according to a CNN review of his speeches and social media posts.

He has imprecisely but repeatedly invoked the government’s licensing of broadcast TV airwaves and has said on at least 15 occasions that certain licenses should be revoked. His anti-broadcasting broadsides – against CBS, ABC, NBC, and even Fox – are almost always in reaction to interview questions he dislikes or programming he detests.

Trump’s threats against CBS have been particularly intense in recent weeks. He has railed against “60 Minutes” for editing the newsmagazine’s interview with Vice President Kamala Harris. The venerable program said Sunday that his claims are false, but on Monday he continued to bring it up on the campaign trail, and his legal team sent a threatening letter to CBS.

“It’s so bad they should lose their license, and they should take ’60 Minutes’ off the air,” Trump told right-wing podcaster Dan Bongino last week.

National networks like CBS are not licensed, but local stations are. (And the parent company of CBS, Paramount Global, owns some local stations.) The licensing agency is the government’s Federal Communications Commission, which grants eight-year license terms, and hasn’t denied any license renewal in decades. The process “is so time consuming that no license renewal could be denied before the end of a hypothetical second Trump term,” public interest lawyer Andrew Jay Schwartzman told CNN.

Still, there is a conceivable chilling effect. Trump’s threats have grown so insistent that some TV industry executives have speculated that they could be vulnerable to some sort of retaliation if Trump returns to power.

In response to CNN’s request for comment, the National Association of Broadcasters, the trade association for American TV and radio operators, said Trump’s rhetoric undermines First Amendment freedoms. NAB CEO Curtis LeGeyt did not call out the former president by name, however.

“From our country’s beginning, the right of the press to challenge the government, root out corruption and speak freely without fear of recrimination has been central to our democracy,” LeGeyt said in a statement. “Times may have changed, but that principle – enshrined in the First Amendment – has not. The threat from any politician to revoke a broadcast license simply because they disagree with the station’s content undermines this basic freedom.”

Many of Trump’s threats conflate national networks and local stations. CBS is his current target, but last month he repeatedly accused ABC of wrongdoing after he was fact checked during a presidential debate with Harris, floating “they ought to take away their license” as punishment. Earlier in the year, he said of NBC and CNN, “they should have their licenses or whatever they have taken away.”

CNN, which is distributed via cable, satellite and streaming services, is not licensed by the FCC like broadcast stations.

Trump also mixed-up broadcast and cable while attacking a different cable news network, MSNBC, in November 2023. He wrote on Truth Social that MSNBC “uses FREE government approved airwaves… for purposes of ELECTION INTERFERENCE.” But MSNBC does not use those airwaves; only NBC’s local stations do.

After ABC hosted a presidential debate in September, Trump claimed “people are saying that Comrade Kamala Harris had the questions from Fake News ABC.” That would be a profound ethical lapse, and there was no evidence that it happened; but Harris was widely thought to have won the debate, and Trump lashed out on Truth Social. He referenced Disney Entertainment co-chairman Dana Walden’s close relationship with Harris and said, “if she did give the questions to Kamala, ABC’s license should be TERMINATED.”

Two sources with knowledge of the matter said Walden shrugged off Trump’s missive, but others at ABC found it frustrating and perplexing. “He was our president and he doesn’t even know how licenses work,” one of the sources said.

As president, Trump also said that TV licenses “must be challenged and, if appropriate, revoked,” but nothing came of it. The FCC chairman at the time, Ajit Pai, responded by saying the agency “does not have the authority to revoke a license of a broadcast station based on the content of a particular newscast.”

Pai, now in private practice, declined to comment on Trump’s recent threats. But one current FCC commissioner, Nathan Simington, a Republican appointed by Trump in 2020, has asserted that the agency should look into alleged “news distortion” by “60 Minutes.”

However, the agency is currently controlled by Democrats. FCC chair Jessica Rosenworcel has repeatedly spoken out against Trump’s statements.

“While the FCC has authority to provide licenses for television and radio, it is pretty fundamental that we do not take them away because a political candidate disagrees with or dislikes any kind of content or coverage,” Rosenworcel told NPR this week.

And Trump’s complaints are clearly about content. In January 2023, he wrote on Truth Social that “FAKE NEWS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO ‘STINK UP’ OUR AIRWAVES!” In October 2023, he asked why CBS should “get free public airwaves” for a “highly partisan” episode of “60 Minutes.” In July of this year, he scolded Fox News, writing, “STOP PUTTING ON THE ENEMY!”

Trump has also vowed to place the FCC “back under presidential authority” — but any attempt to do so would stir legal battles. The agency currently operates independently, with both Democratic and Republican commissioners, and members of both parties have historically supported existing license-holders. “Decades of regulatory capture has made case law that strongly favors incumbent licensees,” Schwartzman said. Plus, “the more cynical among us would observe that going after broadcasters is not a good thing to have on one’s resume for post-FCC employment.”

Even so, First Amendment attorney Ted Boutrous, who represented CNN in a 2018 lawsuit against Trump when correspondent Jim Acosta’s press pass was revoked, said that Trump’s comments should be taken seriously.

“At this point, I wouldn’t put anything past Donald Trump and his remaining hard-core loyalists,” Boutrous said. “He tried to strip the White House press passes from reporters he didn’t like last time around and tried to corrupt the Voice of America to be his own personal global megaphone.”

“If he can get a majority of his appointees to control the FCC,” Boutrous continued, “there is no telling what grievous injury he and they could do to freedom of the press and the ability of the networks and their affiliates to disseminate the news and actual facts to the American people.”

Rosenworcel – whose term at the FCC ends next June – sounded a similar note in her interview with NPR this week. Speaking of Trump’s licensing threats, she said, “We can’t let this be normal. If you want to maintain a constitutional democracy, you have to speak up for it.”

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/22/media/trump-strip-tv-station-licenses-punish-media/index.html

Just like every other dictatorial leader, anyone who speaks out against him is the enemy. Anyone who speaks out against him he wants to silence.


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Was Trump in garbage truck a bit too much?


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Originally Posted by Stiffarm
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Just an FYI- You are engaging with a poster who routinely calls people racist and white supremacists when offering a differing opinion and stance politically than his own. It's up to you, but again, I wouldn't waste your time.

I would say that Joe Biden is racist and white supremacist because he believes that non whites don’t know how to use computers and are unable to get identification cards, And he says, if you don’t vote for him, you’re not black and poor kids are just as bright and talented as white kids.

And people like Swish are ok with that.

Hope he didn’t vote for Biden. 😮

i voted for him so im black. all good bro, unless you want me to vote for the guy that got sued by the federal government twice for not renting to black people? that who youre voting for, stiff

What was that? 50 years ago. 50 years ago I was an anti-theist.

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[quote=Stiffarm]When Trump said “ root out the enemy within” he was talking about using the Democratic process and peaceful methods.

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Donald Trump 01:42:11-01:42:31 (19 sec)
We have to come up with votes because there's a point at which they're cheating, can't get it done. There s a point at which the cheating can't get it done, so get every patriot you know and get them out to deliver a massive victory in the primary. But honestly, more importantly, in the election, the primary.
Donald Trump 01:42:31-01:43:01 (30 sec)
Let's get the primary done first. We'll be back here many times, but we got to get the primary done first. So join our campaign by visiting nh.donaldjtrump.com or text Trump to 88022, OK? 2024 is our final battle. With you at my side, and you've been at my side from the beginning, we will demolish the deep state.
Donald Trump 01:43:01-01:43:23 (22 sec)
We'll expel -- we're going to expel those horrible, horrible warmongers from our government. They want to fight everybody. They want to kill people all over the place, places we've never heard about before, places that want to be left alone. We will drive out the globalists. We will cast out the communists, Marxists, fascists.
Donald Trump 01:43:23-01:43:52 (29 sec)
We will throw off the sick political class that hates our country. We will rout the fake news media until they become real. We will evict Joe Biden from the White House, and we will finish the job that we started better than anybody has ever started a job before. The great silent majority is rising like never before.
Donald Trump 01:43:52-01:44:35 (44 sec)
And under our leadership, the forgotten man and woman will be forgotten no longer. You're going to be forgotten no longer. With your help, your love, and your vote, we will put America first. And today, especially in honor of our great veterans on Veterans Day, we pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections and will do anything possible, they'll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American dream.
Donald Trump 01:44:35-01:45:13 (38 sec)

The real threat is not from the radical right. The real threat is from the radical left, and it's growing every day, every single day. The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, they're not going to want to play with us, and they didn't. Despite the hatred and anger of the radical left lunatics who want to destroy our country, we will make America great again.
[/u][u][u][/u] https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump...laremont-new-hampshire-november-11-2023/

This is one of two examples (the other is the absurd claim that Trump said he would use military on. Election day before he is president 🤣🤣)that the media twisted to say that Trump said he would use the military to go after his opponents. Notice the preschool level of reading comprehension of the Dems. (We really shouldn’t vote for uneducated people who can’t even read.)
How did Trump threaten to use the military?

We have to come up with votes

…massive victory in the Primary

…get the primary done first

We’re going to expel those horrible warmongers from our government

We will drive out The globalists

We will expel the Marxists.

He’s talking about VOTING people out, not using the military.

Rebutt this

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They say enemy within is nazi rhetoric. Does that mean Margaret Thatcher was a Nazi? 🤔

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There are SEVERAL quotes he uses from Hitler. Try again. The topic is about exactly what I posted. When you keep quoting Hitler and employ the same political strategy Hitler employed in the beginning, that's why he gets compared to Hitler. But the truth escapes you.

Do you mean like enemy within? How do you know he wasn’t quoting Margaret Thatcher?

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There are SEVERAL quotes he uses from Hitler. Try again. The topic is about exactly what I posted. When you keep quoting Hitler and employ the same political strategy Hitler employed in the beginning, that's why he gets compared to Hitler. But the truth escapes you.

Do you mean like enemy within? How do you know he wasn’t quoting Margaret Thatcher?

I mean all of the things he says that Hitler also said. Watch the video. Read where he wants to silence the media and shut down the networks because they show all of that and the things he has done.

If you don't want to be compared to Hitler, stop sounding lie Hitler.


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