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Fear mongering Kamala “scare us”repeated this lie again in Washington DC speech which was supposedly her closing argument she said Trump said he would use the military against Americans. There are only two quotes that the Democrats have given to support this claim one is it a quote that Trump gave during a conversation about election day, When he would have no authority to use the military because he will not be president on that day and the second was a quote about getting out and voting out politicians through the Democratic process. Post above

Any fair minded honest person can read these quotes in their contacts and clearly see that she is lying but you won’t because you don’t care about the truth

so everybody and they mama heard Trump say he would use the military against his opponents, calling them the enemy from within.

well, everybody except Stiffarm.

Yet here you are. All you have to do is listen to trump, not the media. He has made it clear what he wants to be done and if "they" don't do it, "he" will. Because he explained that's what he thinks needs to be done. He just has to wait until he is inaugurated.

Here is video of him actually saying that:

https://www.9news.com/article/news/...536-86276780-35f3-405d-b409-578a0ec99037

So that there is no confusion about whom he is referring...

I'm sorry, that argument is just stoopid on the media and Democrats part. First of all, TRUMP will have no authority to use the military or national guard on election day, as he won't be president on election day. How are you people fooled so easily?

Where did he say he would use military on Pelosi or anyone else? Are Pelosi and Schumer, and Maxine Waters, and Cynthia Jones (who said "make them pay, soldiers") and Hillary Clinton, and Schiff, and et al going to be out being violent agitators on election day, rioting, and throwing molatov cocktails and stabbing police with sharpened unbrella tips. Maybe they'll be out looting Walmart, or lighting businesses on fire, or smashing windows, or pulling people out of trucks and beating them, or throwing paint on old women. Yeah, I can see Pelosi doing that now.

But don't you know that the "using military to take care of it" was in regards to election day violence? And don't you know that Trump will not be able control the military or national guard on election day as he won't be prez.

And he said "The military...can take care of it because THEY can't let it happen. Who is they? Biden and the Democrats. So Biden is going to sick the military on Chuck Schumer and Pelosi, because they're out smashing buildings and burning cars and looting and stabbing police with sharpened umbrella tips and throwing frozen water bottles at people.

And the other quote that the Dems and Media are too illiterate to interpret correctly...let's talk about that. If you read or hear that quote in CONTEXT the only violence Trump talked about was at the election box when (he hopes) people vote the suckers out.

Learn how to read CONTEXT. You can find the full context to almost any speech or interview online in full context, don't be a lazy thinker, just eating the garbage that they throw you.

What color is the sky on the planet where Democrats live?

Yes, unlike you, I think if you are trying to find out what Trump actually said, you should go to his own words, read or listen to them in context and instead of listening to what Democrats claim he said while taking his quotes out of context and arguments that are STOOPID, draw out the meaning of his actual words using simple grammar and context, instead of reading into his words ridiculous conspiracy theories that don't exist

The only violence Trump mentioned when he called Pelosi and the Peanuts "enemies" was voting their lying butts out of office Read the context!!!If you know how to use Google, you can find the full transcript of both the interview and the speech that the Democrats are quoting out of context to GASLIGHT you.

And, once again, the context of the second quote reveals that this argument of the Democrats is completely ludicrous because Trump will have no power or authority to use the military on anyone.

Anyone average person in elementary school and beyond can read the context and see that the whole claim is ridiculous and an outright lie.

GO read the context.

2+2 really equals 3 to you doesn't it?

Video 1 - trump clearly says it is appropriate to use the military on the "enemy within"
Video 2 - he clearly defines Schiff and Pelosi as the "enemy within"

Does the President have legal authority to do that?
No, but when has trump ever recognized legal authority?
All he needs to do is put a few minions in the right places and ...

Where the hell is that gif, the one with a MAGA troll and his Trump decoder ring working in a mad sweat to not look completely WEIRD in trying to justify backing a fn fascist POS, when you need it? You can’t make this ish up. It’s pathetic and sad to see, and I don’t know how we reclaim the lost ones, post Trump. Most will need years of deprogramming and therapy. I mean this guy Stiffarm doesn’t even live in reality. He’s trying to use his impressive weave decoding skills to grasp reality… ffs, it’s all just fn weird..

Sorry buddy. You can’t take two different quotes, from two different discussions, in two different context, on two different topics, at two different times, and smash them together. That’s called “transposing one context on top of another.

Trump views violent activists who stab and shoot police, and attack innocent civilians as enemies from within and he views people that incite the
and lie to the public as enemies. But he only said the military can be used against the former. He never suggested using the military against the latter.

I know some who called for violence against Americans. They’re Democrats.

He basically said Biden could use the military. That’s why he said “ because THEY, (not I) can’t let that happen. “

I don’t think he was talking about himself when he said “they” (third person plural instead of first person singular) because he never claimed to be a non-binary gender. 😀

There you go. Rebut that.

Challenge- If anyone can provide The quote where Trump said he would use the military against his opponents, and adequately answer a few cross examination questions, and you can cross examine me, I will stop posting on Palus politics.

One on one debate with anyone.

Formal debate rules.

Any takers?

He must be using that new math.

There's nothing formal about your trolling. Trump made it clear what he thinks should be done when and if he has the chance to do it. Everyone knows that. Your only caveat is "election day". Nobody thinks you're so stupid to not undererstand trump is sending a clear message that this is what he wants to do if he is elected president. But you sure do make a convincing argument that you are.

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Please define enemy within as it is used (contextual meaning) video one

Please define enemy within as it is used in video two

Not the same

One video was referring to violent agitators on election day

One video was about politicians who Trump sees as corrupt.

Two different groups, right?

Question- in the “violent agitator video, who was Trump talking about when he said “…because THEY can’t let that happen, and what did he mean?

All were described as "the enemy within". trump himself categorized them as being part of the same group. But keep spinning. I know I can count on you.

Question on the table. Who was Trump talking about when he said “they can’t let it happen” in the violent agit-taters video. Who was the “they”

Can you answer a simple question?

If you keep responding to and "debating" the clown show - it makes you dumber. The very definition of a Troll is to say stoopid things for people to react/over react to.... and here you are. Which part of "whatever you type the troll will say something stupid, untrue, extreme, ridiculous" don't you understand? . . . There will never be a moment you 'break through' or acknowledgement or enlightenment will coalesce. You will never have the last word. All you do is extend an utterly pointless "conversation" ... except it's not a conversation.

Put it another way - if you met someone at a bar or a Browns game and they talked total nonsense. Lied. Talked out of both sides of their mouths. reframed the conversation every time you countered something they said .... would you keep talking to them?

Life's too short and it messes up this board. Do as you please but man I wish you wouldn't. At lease don't quote the clown - he's on ignore.

Pit and mgh

So since both Italians and Germans were fascists in World War II, You can go ahead and take the word fascist and apply it to either one however you please regardless of what the context is?

That’s weird.

There’s a reason why you can’t answer the question of who was Trump talking about when he said “they can’t let it happen” the answer will lead to a swift disintegration of the lie addressed in the OP.

If you can answer this question, we can achieve a conclusion. If we achieve a conclusion, I will stop posting on Palus Polics.

If we can’t, then I might be here well beyond the election. (Whether anyone replies or not).

I promise. If you can finish a discussion without avoiding questions, I will leave Paul’s politics permanently.

They are the people currently in power now. What he feels should be done tells us what he will do if he gets elected to power. You seem to think people can only be rounded up on election day when it's quite clear this is what he thinks needs to be done. Most people aren't so simple they can't comprehend this.

Which one of these Hitler comments that trump has said repeatedly do you think are being taken out of context? How do you think trump repeating several of these Hitler quotes does not make him sound like Hitler?



And still, not a single time have you addressed all of the lies he says in every rally he holds while pointing the finger in the other direction. It's not hard to see who you are.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...emy-from-within-the-u-s-if-hes-reelected


https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-military-enemy-from-within-election-day/index.html

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-suggesting-military-national-guard-election-day-enemy-within-1968345

https://www.verifythis.com/article/...536-86276780-35f3-405d-b409-578a0ec99037




There is nothing to debate, He said it, I think he meant it..

In the video, The one where they were talking about Violent agitators. In the last line, Trump said “ The military… can be used to control that, because they can’t let that happen

Who was the “they” he was referring to?

And what was the thing he said “they can’t let “THAT” happen?

If you refuse to answer these SIMPLE electors school level questions, you are deliberately ignoring context because you know you cannot successfully defend the Demoncrat lie without omitting context.

You'd make a very good Republican Politician. You know how to twist the crap out of things.

Bottom Line. He said it... NUFF SAID

Oh, man!! pBS lies too.

From the PBS article.

Quote and I think they’re the big — and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military, because they can’t let that happen.”

Questions.

Who are the “they” Trump is referring to?

What is the “thing” that they can’t let happen?

I've covered that already. Your excuse is that he didn't say "He would do it". But we all know how trump works. We know that's what he says he would do and should be done. And we know if he wins the election that will be exactly what he will try to do. The fact you pretend to be too slow to figure out the way this all works says more about you than it does us.

Now it's your turn to address all the lies he tells at his rallies and all of the things he says that are direct quotes from Hitler.

The fact he's a proven habitual liar yet you think he should be taken at his word verbatim is precious.

Anything? Anything at all?

According to trump "they" are the "enemy within" which he included both Schiff and Pelosi to that list. Or did you conveniently miss that part?

Should be done in what scenario and do what?

Use context clues to answer.

Where did he say he would use the military against Schiff and Pelosi. I believe he was talking about voting people like them out of office (hopefully) if you check the context of that one.

Maybe you should find a transcript where the context is included.

I noticed that deceptive, derelict, devious, duplicitous, Democrats didn’t include the actual question that preceded the “violent agi-tater quote nor did they include the immediate context of the other one.

That’s calling “taking out of context”.

He said that the National Guard or even the military f needed should be used on "the enemy within". He listed both Pelosi and Schiff as the enemy within. He made it clear what should be done to the enemy within should he be in control. He will be in control if he is elected president. This really isn't complicated. The only one refusing to admit the obvious here is you. So are you going to keep ignoring my questions? Of course you are.

OK you answered the questions. We're very close to finishing the conversation. Like I said, if we can finish this, which we can probably do very quickly since we're not shouting over each other, If we can just do that without name calling or refusals to answer a question, or changing the subject, I will leave and never post on Palus again Even if neither one of us convinces the other.

I have one simple two part question, a simple yes or no will do. Afterwards, I think I only have two simple questions, which if you answer them, I will give a closing argument and never post on Palus again. Then you can say whatever you want, have the last word.

What Trump said in the context of the quote at hand was that the military can be used on the enemy within. but if you look at the context, he was talking about violent agitators. The question that the interviewer asked Trump was what if there are violent agitators on election day, as Biden says he doesn't think election day will be peaceful. TWO Part question, but the answer for both will probably be the same.

a. Let's say Trump gets elected and there are riots; arsons, cities burning, stores looted, people getting killed, and it gets out of hand. If Biden call in the military or national guard to control the unrest, to kind of keep it from getting too out of hand, would that be wrong? I'm not talking about attacking people, just keeping it in control. Would you be Ok with that?

b. Now let's say Kamala gets elected and militia groups start getting violent? Would you be OK with Biden calling in the military or national guard to control them

(I know you think this is not what Trump meant, but for the sake of argument just answer yes or no. I don't want to debate if this is what Trump meant, I just want to see if you would be Ok with either scenario above.)

As you have seen I answered your question. Yet you have refused to answer any of mine. So before addressing any of my questions you want me to answer yet more of your questions? That's not how this is going to work. It's your turn to address my questions now.

You certainly do have the magic trump decoder ring don’t you? Nobody else can walk Trump’s crap back without it. Including Fox News. Good work.

Troll feeding thread. Stiffy knows damn well what Trump said, we gave him video. Anything else out of his mouth about this is just a GOPer lie. He refuses facts when he can plainly see them. You can’t help somebody like that.

Which of your questions have I not answered? Are they related to this topic? remember, The deal is we have to stay on topic this particular topic. If you can Handle the Two questions I already asked and one or two more questions without changing the topic, and if you answer them and allow me to give my final argument, whether we agree or not at the end I have promised that I will no longer post on Palus politic that’s the deal.

Pay no attention to those other guys Answer these two questions and then two more questions and I promise, never to post on Palus politics again (except for my last closing statement, 1 post.

Video WITHOUT context= deceptive propaganda.

Nazis and Communists use propaganda. And Democrats.

In the video about election day ago-taters, they literally omitted the question that was asked in order to change the meaning of the answer.

That’s deceptive. Marxist level deception. Soviet level deception.

Only Marxist or communist controlled media would air a video containing a person answering a question without including the question when excluding the question served to twist and misrepresent the meaning and intent of the one answering.

Yada yada, I hear nada.