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But nobody seems to remember that many billionaires pay a lower tax percentage than their own secretaries. Let's stop pretending that this is all the fault of workers. Both men in charge of this entire thing are multi billionaires pretending the problem is everyone but themselves and people such as yourself just lap it up like a kitten does milk.

Over the past 16 years, Musk's business deals with the government total nearly $20 billion, according to federal contracting data. You are applauding putting the fox in the hen house.

Thanks for your wonderful contribution to the thread. What are you, 12?

And you claim to be the smart ones.

12/6... 20 minutes worth... profound insight across all the threads...

That's the funny bit about using percentage...

Yes, that little game we play where I ask you to comment on trump's pardons while you go off the rails in response and avoid it like the plague. I love that game! And now you want to blame me for responding in kind. And just think, personal responsibility used to be a mantra of your kind. You let that fly right out the window.

Or refusing to use them as the case may be.

Looking forward to seeing people on here turn on Fetterman all of a sudden.

You like flies in the house? Is that a Tennessee thing?

Why would we turn on Fetterman? oh nevermind, that’s right, Goper’s think the opposition party thinks like them.

1) "Higher percentage" is a mask to spin what is really happening. What are the actual percentages. 25.1 is higher than 25.0 for instance.
2) Percentages hide acual dollars. In 2021 Musk had a tax bill of $10.7B. I am sure you can show how his secretaries came fairly close to that.

Likely you will keep chirping cricket.

Yuk yuk. That there was some major weak sauce.

Better than MAGGATS in the White House.

I know you love to throw context out the window and stick with raw numbers. It's all you have left in defense of your chosen one.

Actually I added context. You hide behind hand waving vagueness that induces spin.

No, you posted some vague platitudes with no actual context. Speaking of hiding behind vagueness, people have been watching to do that for two days in a row now combined with cricket syndrome. They really need to come up with medication for that.

No.

Post count post.

Just like all the times over the past two days you posted "No".

No., that is a response to your delusional reality posts, i.e. when you make up a reality.

sadly you have no idea what reality looks like.

Ironically (given your response), he was referring to willful ignorance.

I gotta admit, him extending the olive branch (if I'm reading that right) is an interesting one. I thought Fetterman campaigned on a strong "working man/us vs them" type thing. Maybe I just didn't follow him closely enough, but that's surprising to me.

Maybe he doesn't want to be added to the list labeled "the enemy of the people" and start receiving death threats. I think we'll be seeing a lot more politicians more "open" to trumpian nonsense as we go along.

Musk spent more than a quarter-billion dollars to elect Trump, including funding a mysterious super PAC, new filings show

Elon Musk plowed at least $260 million into efforts to send Donald Trump back to the White House, new filings show – a massive infusion that makes him one of the largest single political underwriters of a presidential campaign and underscores the outsized influence of the world’s wealthiest person on this year’s election.

Thursday’s filings with the Federal Election Commission show that the Tesla and SpaceX executive gave a total of $238 million to a super PAC that he founded this year, America PAC, which worked to turn out voters on Trump’s behalf in key states.

But he also was the financial backer of other groups that cropped up in the final days of the election to support Trump, including one that spent millions on advertising to defend his record on abortion. It had sought to link Trump’s views on abortion to those of late Supreme Court Justice and liberal icon Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Musk, through a trust that bears his name, donated $20.5 million to the group, named RBG PAC, on October 24, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission. He was the sole donor to the group, which was formed in mid-October. The donation’s timing meant that Musk’s involvement was not disclosed until Thursday’s post-election filings with the federal regulators.

Ginsburg’s granddaughter, Clara Spera, publicly denounced the ads – which sought to neutralize abortion as a liability for Trump in the campaign – as misleading and an “affront” to Ginsburg’s legacy as a staunch defender of abortion rights.

According to the new filings, Musk also donated $3 million to the MAHA Alliance, a super PAC that ran stark ads in key swing states urging supporters of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to back Trump in the closing stretch of the campaign. Kennedy himself had ended his independent campaign over the summer and endorsed Trump.

MAHA stands for “Make America Healthy Again,” Kennedy’s spin on Trump’s MAGA catchphrase. Trump has now tapped Kennedy, one of the nation’s most prominent anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists, to oversee the Health and Human Services Department.

Musk has emerged as a key player in Trump’s orbit during the transition to a second White House term. The president-elect has tapped the tech magnate, along with former Republican presidential contender Vivek Ramaswamy, to oversee a new Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, aimed at cutting government spending. Musk spent part of Thursday on Capitol Hill, meeting with lawmakers as part of early talks into trimming the size of government.

Cabinet of donors

Trump has selected other big donors for roles in his incoming administration.

Howard Lutnick, the Cantor Fitzgerald investment bank chief whom Trump has tapped to head the Commerce Department, made a nearly $3 million “in-kind” donation of stock on October 21 to a pro-Trump super PAC, MAGA Inc., according to the organization’s filings Thursday night.

That’s on top of the $6 million that Lutnick previously donated to the super PAC over the course of the election cycle.

Other Trump supporters who have landed spots in his administration also donated to MAGA Inc. They include Linda McMahon, the former wrestling company executive tapped to serve as Education secretary. She donated more than $20 million to the Trump-aligned super PAC this cycle.

McMahon and Lutnick also serve as co-chairs of Trump’s transition operation.

Other Trump picks who have made seven-figure donations to MAGA Inc. include former Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler, his choice to lead the Small Business Administration; Scott Bessent, whom Trump has selected as Treasury secretary; and two of his choices for plum diplomatic posts in Europe, Arkansas investor Warren Stephens and Charles Kushner, the father-in-law of Trump’s daughter, Ivanka.

Other big donors

Other uber-wealthy figures who made late donations include venture capitalists Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz, whose firm has invested in crypto businesses. They donated a combined $23 million in November to Fairshake, the crypto industry’s main super PAC, the new filings show. Fairshake and aligned groups spent heavily to influence congressional races. Andreessen and Horowitz also donated to a pro-Trump super PAC earlier in the cycle.

Trump, who once dismissed cryptocurrency as a scam, has become a fan of digital assets and has made clear he intends to diverge from the Biden administration’s aggressive regulation of the industry. This week, he announced Paul Atkins, a crypto advocate and co-chair of the Token Alliance, as his pick to serve as chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission. On Thursday, Trump announced tech investor David Sacks will be his White House “czar” overseeing artificial intelligence and cryptocurrency policy.

Fairshake and its affiliates already have touted a $78 million stockpile for the 2026 midterm elections, in the form of campaign funds left over from this year’s elections and pledged donations.

Harris’ final numbers

Vice President Kamala Harris’ defunct presidential campaign had just $1.8 million in its account on November 25, according to the new filings with federal regulators, having virtually emptied its massive war chest of more than $1 billion.

The final cash on hand total follows intense scrutiny of the Harris campaign’s management of resources in its losing effort. Her frenzied spending in the final weeks of the campaign and Democrats’ aggressive efforts to secure donations after the election, drew intense scrutiny and raised alarms that her campaign was grappling with unpaid bills.

But after record-breaking fundraising, Harris’ operation appears set to close its books without debt, reporting $1.82 million in cash on hand.

The new report, covering activity from October 17 through November 25, also showed the Harris campaign burning through money during the intense home stretch — spending more than $270 million during that period.

For the entire campaign, including outgoing President Joe Biden’s time as the Democratic nominee, the campaign spent roughly $1.2 billion, according to the filing. It’s a gargantuan total, underscoring the soaring expense of modern campaigns, as well as the limits of financial firepower — Harris consistently out-raised Trump — against unforgiving political headwinds.

Trump recently converted his presidential campaign committee into a leadership PAC called Never Surrender, Inc. It reported more than $11 million in debts as of November 25, largely owed to an Iowa firm for “telemarketing & data management,” according to its filing. The committee still had nearly $9.9 million in available cash at the end of the reporting period.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/05/politics/elon-musk-trump-campaign-finance-filings/index.html

I can't recall so much power actually installed in our government that has been so obviously and overtly paid for in my lifetime.

Did you watch the Kackela campaign? They tried to "install", she just could string three sentences together.

j/c...

If you read past the rhetoric (you know, Fetterman agreeing with Trump so he doesn't get assassinated) you would see that once Fetterman recovered he's shown he's a no-nonsense-high-common-sense politician.

I see once again you insist on ignoring the content of the article. No surprise there.

You need to read more about the impact and effects of strokes. That's not how they work at all.

Dr. David, telephone please. Dr. David
Dr. Blair, Dr. Blair, Dr. J. Hamilton, Dr. J Hamilton

It's 10 minutes past curfew, why are you still up?

You need to call someone. My father had a massive stroke that my family dealt with for years. Maybe you can explain how strokes are funny to you?

Where did I say strokes were funny?

Playing ignorant again. At least I hope you're playing. It would be sad to think otherwise.

Avoiding the question again. Where did I say strokes were funny?

You should take a day off bro. Nobody said anything about strokes being funny.

It's that delusional reality he lives in.

You and your tag team partner seriously need to try a different routine. You can call that funny or you can call that making fun of it. That's your choice. But in the process of coming after me you couldn't seem to grasp the meaning of what it was you were actually doing.