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Wind turbines. Great in theory, terrible in reality - at this time.

Where shall I start? I'll start small. 10 or 12 years ago I looked into a small turbine that would, realistically, drop my electric bill to 0. I was told, by the company selling this particular 1 that would meet my needs, it would be $50,000.00. Payable in full prior to being functional. However, I would get $25,000 in tax credits/rebates once it was paid for. (over time, that is). Ok. $25,000 for me to not have an electric bill each month. Ok, so, at an average of $150 a month in electric bill..............it would pay for itself in just under 14 years.

But wait, there's more. I was told every 3-5 years, the turbine would need "maintenance" at a cost of $5-7000 dollars each time. That made it literally a money hole.

Let's go bigger. 400 yards from my house is a big turbine - the kind you see on wind farms. Private company put it in. About 13 years ago. The owner of the business was hopeful it would pay for itself in 5-7 years. I know the guy. He's my neighbor. 13 years down the road, and it still hasn't paid for itself, especially with all the breakdowns, and being unable to work about 3 months out of every year.

2 local schools (actually, 3, but I don't know any info about the 3rd one) got turbines installed. Let's just say, even with a hugely reduced installation price (courtesy of the gov't., which means courtesy of the tax payers), and with all the breakdowns, neither of the 2 have even come close to half of the supposed "savings", in fact, it's been a financial burden on the districts. Our local school had a website, since shut down, that you could see how much energy the turbine was producing. Not much, in relation to the schools usage.

Drive past ANY big wind farm. Shoot, on my way to Bowling Green Ohio, in Paulding County Ohio, and my way up 127 to Northern Michigan, on my way to Indian Lake Ohio..............I drive past HUGE windfarms. You're lucky if even half of them are operational.

Great in theory, but not in reality at this time, and probably not for decades or longer.

However, they DO increase our cost of living. Between taxes to pay for them and increased cost of electricity.............

And that changes anything I posted how?

It was in response to my post and it's extremely rare that you ever agree with anything I post. Thanks for the reply.

If you'd post more correctly I'd agree more.

It was simply extra information and source.

Back at ya.


Once again thanks for the added information. But of course you couldn't manage to do it without the cheap shot. Typical.

And that changes anything I posted how?

"If you'd post more correctly I'd agree more."

Pretending that wasn't a cheap shot is exactly what I would expect from you. Denial seems to be your strongest attribute. I don't really care because I consider the source but it is what it is whether you lie about it or not.

It seems you think we have a lot in common.

Obviously more than you're willing to admit.

That's what small children repeat ad nauseam every time they don't like what they hear.

Aw, avoiding things like the plague while continuing to say no like a two year old. Then accuse others of playing child games. How very trumpian of you.

It's not hard to find out if you really want to know. It seems as though by your question concerning the song you care more about it than you let on.

If you call some of the lame things that post as being snarky you really don't have any room to be talking to others about it.

You have no interest in trying to hold any conversation or debate and your pat answer of "no" is the same way a child avoids such things. You act like a child and then point the finger at others for it.

It never ceases to amaze me as to what you think "about right" is.

If you have an issue about it being inappropriate you can take that up with the refs.

Does it have anything to do with "gay"?

So you meant?

So you meant?

You're a glutton for punishment.

It has to do with many in the gay community considering it a theme song or anthem of sorts. It also had to do with the writer of the song claiming that was not his intent but being happy the gay community took it that way. It also discussed another band mate saying the song was about the gay community from the very beginning.

I just found the irony in all of this hilarious.

Are you still waiting for the amazement to cease?

You're a glutton for punishment.

[quote=FATE]Are you still waiting for the amazement to cease?

You're a glutton for punishment.

No arch, what you do is post things that happen in "your neck of the woods" and try to paint it as the big picture. It's what you always do. Your little slice of America is not the be all end all. It is not representative of the entire country.

You see, America uses a lot of wind power. So much so if you don't know how much it may astound you. As of now wind power supplies energy for approximately 46 million American homes. It's the fourth largest source of energy in the nation. The largest producers of wind energy for the most part are red states.

Texas alone produces over 26% of America's wind energy followed by Iowa which produces over 11%. In 2023 approximately 60% of the electric consumed in the state of Iowa came from wind energy. By 2019 more energy was being generated by wind energy in than coal fired power plants.

Now according to you, you can Drive past ANY big wind farm and you're lucky if even half of them are operational.

States like Texas, Iowa, Oklahoma and Kansas which are the top wind energy producing states in America, who depend on that wind energy to supply so many homes in their state with that wind power would disagree. If that happened they would be suffering a severe energy shortage.

Try to think big picture arch. That microscope you keep on insisting that you look through is a very narrow view of things.

English seems to be an issue for you today. It's ironic that the very party that is passing legislation in several states that stand against LGBTQ rights plays that song at almost every trump rally and sings along to it. What did you think "I just found the irony in all of this hilarious." meant?

Dear God you've become desperate today.