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Now management needs to focus on "winning".
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I'm super glad he is extended and was quite sure he wouldn't have left anyways, but Myles looks different to me after all of this. I think he played this situation pretty poorly.
I also think Klutch Sports had a lot to do with his antics.
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Who was the poster(s) who said it wasn't about money? Lolz.
And #2 is one thing Berry doesn't do, which makes him good at what he does......and that is to wait to extend a player.
Bengals promised to make Chase the highest paid non-QB and we might have just hurt our rival, who doesn't have the cash flow/flexibility that Haslem does.
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I'm super glad he is extended and was quite sure he wouldn't have left anyways, but Myles looks different to me after all of this. I think he played this situation pretty poorly.
I also think Klutch Sports had a lot to do with his antics. It’s bizarre. What was the point of all of this? The Browns cynic in me say he does not really want to be here, realized the Browns were not going to budge and ultimately just decided to take Haslam’s money. Recent history shows throwing money at the problem for a player that truly doesn’t want to be here isn’t necessarily the right move. We’ll see. At the end of the day, if you don’t have a QB nothing else really matters.
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The Browns cynic in me say he does not really want to be here, realized the Browns were not going to budge and ultimately just decided to take Haslam’s money. Recent history shows throwing money at the problem for a player that truly doesn’t want to be here isn’t necessarily the right move. A very basic and sensible conclusion that some are too busy gloating to wrap their minds around.
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Myles is a great player. I am glad the drama is over.
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Regardless of the team that Myles ended up playing for, he was going to get "paid" a contract similar to what the Browns ended up offering
Cleveland had the inside track but after meeting with AB and discussing AB's plan for the future, that is when Myles became unimpressed with the plan. Rebuilding doesn't mean the Browns have to tank like 2016 and 2017.
The Browns are in a position to correct many of the issues (weaknesses) facing the team in this 2025 draft. If the Browns draft team hits on their picks and navigates free agency wisely this team should be ready to compete from day one.
AB and KS need to produce...expect to win..!
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The Browns cynic in me say he does not really want to be here, realized the Browns were not going to budge and ultimately just decided to take Haslam’s money. Recent history shows throwing money at the problem for a player that truly doesn’t want to be here isn’t necessarily the right move. ...It very well could be the right move, though. Keeping the Hall of Famer in his prime usually is.
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Until I saw the no trade clause, I thought maybe Myles agreed to a contract that could make him more tradeable.
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It was never about winning, it was all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$ The same money he could have gotten anywhere had the Browns agreed to trade him.
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It was never about winning, it was all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$ Honestly, I think it was about winning. Myles just realized the Browns were more likely to send him to the Titans (/insert bad team with owner unwilling to spend so much) than a winner. So, his best bet was to try to make the Browns a winner, and get the no trade clause. I think Myles can understand the business side of things even if he doesn't love it.
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I could not have said it any better! #2102261 02/04/25 02:14 PM Why did Garrett wait until after all the league's GM and coaching changes to make an official announcement? If he did not like the current FO and/or HC, he could have made his announcement official at the end of the season.
Garrett wants to play for Super Bowls. Fine. What team makes the most sense for Berry or the new GM to trade Garrett too? Panthers, Giants, or Titans. Good luck with "Super Bowls!"
If he is upset with the Browns, he not only puts them in a bind to get fair market value but financially burdens the team for several years. Any chance for a quick turnaround from last year is null.
Trading Garrett is not as simple as we will get three firsts and a second and all is good. The entire defense is built around Garrett. No one in the league or the draft can match Garrett's talent. It will require an overall to make the defense competitive.
You trade Garrett and it is a complete team rebuild. This year's draft has no franchise centerpieces to build your offense or defense. Nothing good is happening this coming season.
I think Garrett is taking advantage of an opportunity to renegotiate his contract. He wants more money and more contract control. Basically, the Browns are saying all the right things. Garrett wants it in writing.
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Only the good teams are in a situation to package a lot of assets for a single player in a trade. Bad teams have too many holes and need several players. One player alone won't put a dent in a bad teams needs. For a team on the verge of a SB they may only be one or two pieces away from a SB. For them it makes more sense to pay a kings ransom for a player like Garrett.
Now the Browns have huge investments and proportion of their salary cap dedicated in only two players. A worthless QB and a DE who really doesn't want to be here.
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It is a business. Garrett was negotiating the entire time. Every interview. Every word said. I said time and time again the ending of this event was going to be a new contract. Garrett was going to get paid and get a no trade clause so he can have more future control. The Browns needed some cap flexibility and their best player signed to a deal. They got that done in this deal. Garrett had no leverage but to saber rattle and he did what he could do. Now he says it was important to get this done before free agency so he can help recruit players to join him with the Browns. Let's Go!!!
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Only the good teams are in a situation to package a lot of assets for a single player in a trade. Bad teams have too many holes and need several players. One player alone won't put a dent in a bad teams needs. For a team on the verge of a SB they may only be one or two pieces away from a SB. For them it makes more sense to pay a kings ransom for a player like Garrett.
Now the Browns have huge investments and proportion of their salary cap dedicated in only two players. A worthless QB and a DE who really doesn't want to be here. But it's not really a ransom for SB contenders because top picks are inordinately more valuable than later picks. (Pick 1.27 for three years, is significantly less valuable than one pick 1.1)
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Well, at least that drama is over.
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Can you explain how that makes teams desperate for players at multiple positions to compete more likely to bundle the assets needed to accomplish that for a single player that in essence won't really change their outlook in regards to winning?
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I'm glad the drama is over too. Now we can work on FA and the draft.
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When will they ever learn?
Is giving Garrett $40m/season enough to win the Super Bowl?
Is it enough to win the division?
Is it even enough to get more wins than losses in 2025? 2026?
I’m amazed that the Browns just can’t stop gambling and go all in when the odds are so poor?
The Browns need to win the lottery and get a top ten talent when they draft a QB and he probably has to be ready to win from the gekko.
Even if they do a FA and draft grand slam it probably wouldn’t be enough to beat the very best teams in the next two three seasons.
Too many holes in the roster and too many of our corner stone players are on the end of their career’s.
The only upside is that Berry has to deliver now.
We can’t continue with one of the worst general managers in the NFL too long.
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He is the best defensive end in the NFL, If he's happy to stay, I'm happy to have him. End of story
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He is the best defensive end in the NFL, If he's happy to stay, I'm happy to have him. End of story Your opinion is perfectly valid but for me it’s about what’s best long term. Our roster is full of holes. Our salary cap space is limited. We don’t have a FQB. Berry’s history of signing talents isn’t either the best, to put it mildly. (long pause) Allocating 40m/season of our salary cap space when most of our stats and last seasons results pointing in an another direction is in my world short sighted. I’m not totally against that he stays because he’s our only different maker and I fully respect your and others view but for me, long term, it’s the wrong decision based on hopes, more than anything.
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Can you explain how that makes teams desperate for players at multiple positions to compete more likely to bundle the assets needed to accomplish that for a single player that in essence won't really change their outlook in regards to winning? I never tried to. Can you explain why you make up ridiculous questions when you don't have a valid response? Berry wasn't going to make a deal for less value than Myles is worth. Of course, those SB teams are more likely to make a deal that's worse for the Browns and better for them. Berry's job is to make the best decisions for the Browns, not other bad teams. If they wanted to make a bad deal (in the Browns favor), he should have taken it. No one was willing to give a deal for Myles that was good for the Browns. He's still here.
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I would have been more than happy to burn it to the ground and get as many draught picks as you could for MG and any other top player. But i also think trading away the best player in the NFL isnt smart unless you get a kings ransom for him.... Who knows what we may or may not have been offered.
* But if we were burning it to the ground I would have wanted to jettison, stefanski and Barry
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I’m really happy he’s staying, but I don’t know if it’s best for our long-term interests. We need our QB situation fixed pretty effing fast. At least 95 isn’t yet a throwback jersey.
It’s not about the money though, it’s about winning *ahem* so he must think we’re gonna be dominant. Sarcasm there.
Still I love that he’s staying, and I smiled when I saw the news.
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Just another lying player who says
It's not about the money
It's about going to a team with the chance to win it all
Ya got paid, you lying pos !
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I'm happy he's staying also and happy the distraction is behind us. I know we need a QB badly, but could you imagine if we drafted Carter to pair with Myles? We'd probably have the best pass rush in the league!
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Not to sound like a negative nancy, but my gut feeling is now the injuries are going to start piling up for him. I know he spoke of some issues with his feet last year and was playing through the pain, but he should've got that taken care of as soon as the season ended. I do hope it doesn't become an issue though
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Just another lying player who says
It's not about the money
It's about going to a team with the chance to win it all
Ya got paid, you lying pos ! Why would you call the man what you called him because he negotiated a deal to get paid and to get better control of his own future the no trade clause. Negotiations are what they are. You have to play the best hand possible and most of us realized Garrett did not really have any leverage besides saber rattling. He did what was best for him and got the best deal he could actually get. He also really helped the team by extending his contract. He said it was important to him to get that deal done before the free agency period started so he could help attract others players to the team. I think this deal was a win win for Myles and the team.
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I believe Myles wanted to leave. I also believe he never had a chance in hell of leaving. He tested the waters and got water splashed on his face. He woke up and Barry made sure he sent a message to the NFL that the Browns will PAY their top players if they are excellent players. Myles will now retire a Brown. It's a good thing. Draft Abdul and make a defense that wins games.
I have no problems with Myles making a deal for more money. Especially when I read that he said to get it DONE so he could help recruit players. This tells me he has accepted his fate with the Browns and is going all in to go to the Super Bowl with the Browns. Trust me, Myles has a voice that reaches people in the league because is a pillar for this team that is so strong that the team at least has a CHANCE to win it all with him on the team.
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