The top of the draft is cluttered with teams in need of a quarterback.
The first four picks are up for grabs.
The Browns with pick two are showing up in many mock drafts selecting Carter or Hunter because Cam Ward is considered close to a sure thing at one to the Titans.
The Jets at seven and the Saints at nine are teams that may select a QB.
The Steelers at 21 and the Rams at 26 could also go QB.
Pick 33 becomes a key pick for the Browns if they intend to draft a QB.
Ward, Sanders, Dart, Shough, Milroe and Howard appear to be the main targets.
Ward by most accounts will be pick One. Most likely the Titans or a trade partner.
Sanders is a guess. Teams have different views of him. The Browns or Giants could draft him. Or, he may slide some.
For this exercise let's say the Browns take Carter and the Giants draft Sanders.
That leaves Dart, Shough, Milroe as possible Browns targets. I am leaving Howard out as more of a later round option.
The Browns brought in Shough as part of their 30 visits. There is the Tommy Rees connection to Milroe.
Dart has gotten lots of attention lately as QB three.
If the Browns have one of these three on their Board. They may have to use pick 33 and more draft capital to get above the Steelers to secure their guy. They could gamble and hold at 33 but if they are on one of these guys then they should probably be aggressive.
Tyler Shough has really attracted attention lately. Turn on his tape and there is a lot that looks good. The Browns must see something to bring him in.
I want Carter - perhaps Hunter but I slightly prefer Carter - at 2, and if can trade up to get Dart I’d be okay with that.
The pundits talk up QBs this time of year because quarterback is the big marquee position, they want click bait and quite a few teams in the Top 10 need one, as is often the case. Shough ain’t gonna make it in the show, at least not our show. A 25 year old QB in a weak class?
I know the Browns used one of their 30 visits to bring him in. So, I would assume there is interest.
In his case I do not think age will be a factor. I don't where he will be drafted. I have listened to people like Kurt Warner, Greg Cosell, and Louis Riddick. They like him a lot.
Shough has ten visits scheduled so there is interest.
IMO there are five quarterbacks in play for the Browns.
Ward, Sanders, Dart, Slough, and Milroe.
Ward is most likely out of reach. The others are in play. Where I have no idea?
Shough has played six years a of college football and only in the last few weeks has anyone considered him as an NFL QB, as far as I know. We’ll trade up probably, to get a quarterback we like.
I saw the Shough for the first time at the Combine. I was more interested in Dart. I was impressed just as a workout throwing the ball. He threw a nice ball. He seemed comfortable throwing, nice clean motion.
Then his name started growing. I have great respect for Greg Cosell. More than any other person that covers football for a living. He was on with Ross Tucker and said he was his second choice behind Ward.
I don't know him. Never watched a game. I know his story. I have heard him in interviews. Todd McShay was on with Rich Eisen and they went on about him?
My issue with Shough is, aside from having Brandon Weeden flashbacks, he has only started one full season in college. I have trepidation about guys that can't seem to stay healthy when they are young and wonder what they will be at 27-30, ? WHich is not far away for Shough as he will be 26 early in the season. I also am biased against guys, maybe wrongly so, that seem to bounce around alot. There may be a good reason for it, however, it would definitely affect my evaluation (only slightly but a bit nevertheless). I wouldn't trade assets to move up for any of the QBs and, if I were to land a guy in free agency, I would probably pass on a QB this year. However, I think Dart will be gone and the Browns may go with Milroe. He seems to have the best raw ability, and Reese should know if his faults are coachable. If they select a different QB at 33 with Milroe still on the board that would tell me something.
Shough injuries were broken bones not repeated soft tissue injuries. He had bad luck during COVID with broken bones that heal.
He has size, speed, and a good arm. I am not concerned about his age. If he gets two contracts that's ten years worth of playing. If he does that then he has done well.
Hell most quarterbacks don't get a second contract with the teams that draft them.
Dart would be worth trading up to above the Steelers IMO.
Shough should be there at 33.
Milroe is not a first rounder IMO. I see him as a third round developmental guy that will need time.
I’ve been reading up on Shough. I’m certainly not a QB evaluator but he might be worth taking a shot with. He seems to have all the physical tools. He might have as much upside as any other QB in the draft.
I agree with that strategy. The Titans will probably take Ward #1. No other QB is worth our pick at 2. Carter or Hunter should be taken by us at 2. Personally I like Carter but I wouldn’t be upset if we took Hunter.
I think we all agree it's Cam Ward, then everyone else.
My question is.. if Cam Ward is seen as a viable option and the Titans are looking to move down (possibly), should we make an offer to move up and what would you be willing to give?
Personally, I don't see him as a great prospect so I wouldn't consider a trade up. That being said, I have probably given away my view on the rest of this class as well.
My hope is that we shore up the D-Line with Abdul Carter and hope that Omarion Hampton is still on the board at #33. He and Jeanty are both similar to Chubb in their running style.. Jeanty will obviously be gone, but I don't think Hampton is far behind him in his skill set. If he is gone, I hope one of the top O-line prospects slide. It's a small class as far as high ceiling, so one would have to fall for me to consider that. Just too many scenarios to play out when thinking about the #33. I am NOT thinking QB here though. If Howard is still there in the 4th, I would take a flyer, otherwise we have been too desolate of youth insertion the past 3 years with not first and second rounders that I am looking for BPA with the first (3) PICKS... if you want to go QB with the 3rd round comp pick, so be it. Otherwise, I'm not thinking about it until round 4.
Yes, Shough is not Weeden ( although the hayseed comment makes zero sense). However, I guess it depends on viewpoint, was Shough unfortunate or is he just one of those guys that would be considered "brittle"? I don't know and the point is that I would pause for a moment given what I do know to be a fact, and that is he only played one full season in college and will be 30 on or about the completion of his rookie contract. Also, I wonder about these guys that seem to rocket up the draft boards well after all the games are finished. It seems to happen every year.
Weeden's first press conference after being drafted by the Browns left an impression on me.
I can only speak for myself.
IMO he came off as a player who could never lead a locker room. His play on the field later confirmed the impression he left initially.
Broken bones in football are caused by impact. I highly doubt that he is brittle. If that could be proven he would never be drafted.
Shough has to be looked at in total meaning from high school.
When put under that light it appears he was the victim of unfortunate circumstances.
How he will play in the NFL is about as clear as it is with all the others. It will make no difference where he gets drafted as far as draft order. He will have to prove what he can do on the field.
Team fit is always important from a culture and coaching fit perspective.
This would be great if we could make it happen What are the odds Dart lasts to #33? Doubtful Even if he fell someone would trade above us to get him So we would definitely have to trade up Probably into the teens if we want to get him Even then not a guarantee - can you say saints at 9?
So how high would you trade back up to get Dart? Willing to give #33 and next years #1? and next years #2 as well if needed?
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
I don't believe Dart would be considered a high likelihood to be drafted before the Steelers at #21. The #20 pick is valued at 850 points. The #33 pick is valued at 580 points. That leaves a discrepancy of 270 points. Which is worth approximately the same value as the #62 or #63 pick in the draft.
While it isn't a hard and fast rule, the draft value board gives you a guideline of the point value each draft pick is worth.....
NFL Trade Value Chart - 2025 Version Most Recent Update: March 18, 2025 2:00 PM EST
This would be great if we could make it happen What are the odds Dart lasts to #33? Doubtful Even if he fell someone would trade above us to get him So we would definitely have to trade up Probably into the teens if we want to get him Even then not a guarantee - can you say saints at 9?
So how high would you trade back up to get Dart? Willing to give #33 and next years #1? and next years #2 as well if needed?
Our #2 this year and our # 2 next year would get it done.
I could also see #2 + Newsome to Seattle or Tampa Bay.
I don't believe Dart would be considered a high likelihood to be drafted before the Steelers at #21. The #20 pick is valued at 850 points. The #33 pick is valued at 580 points. That leaves a discrepancy of 270 points. Which is worth approximately the same value as the #62 or #63 pick in the draft.
While it isn't a hard and fast rule, the draft value board gives you a guideline of the point value each draft pick is worth.....
NFL Trade Value Chart - 2025 Version Most Recent Update: March 18, 2025 2:00 PM EST
I don't believe Dart would be considered a high likelihood to be drafted before the Steelers at #21. The #20 pick is valued at 850 points. The #33 pick is valued at 580 points. That leaves a discrepancy of 270 points. Which is worth approximately the same value as the #62 or #63 pick in the draft.
While it isn't a hard and fast rule, the draft value board gives you a guideline of the point value each draft pick is worth.....
NFL Trade Value Chart - 2025 Version Most Recent Update: March 18, 2025 2:00 PM EST
I predict Dart to go mid 1st round I also think top 10 is more likely than him falling out of the 1st
How high would we have to be willing go for a "guarantee" we get him
You can still calculate the compensation it would require using the NFL trade value chart. As you can see what we would have to pay depends on how high you think they would have to trade up to insure they get him. Obviously our opinions of how high that would be and my guess is it varies among people depending on where they think Dart will be drafted.
Mid first is #16. My guess was the Browns would have to move up to #20. That's really not much of a difference unless someone is splitting hairs.
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I agree with Peen. I think Abdul carter is the best players in the draft and paired with Myles in our wide 9. Is scary. I am looking at running back or corner whichever grades higher at 33 but 33 I could see all quarterbacks not named Cam still available. Time of year for smoke but most teams have 1 qb with a first round grade.
Use late picks to get as many day 2 picks as u possibly can.
After our first two picks, they can draft as many QBs as they want to take a flier on. I think every QB in this class is a reach as to where we’d have to draft them to insure nobody else does before us.
If we do take a qb i hope it is Tyler Shough. He looks like an nfl qb terrific atm throws from different angles. Moves well in and out of the pocket. Can throw people open. Fearless in the face of pressure.
Dart is the one that scares me. Throws to wide open receivers hates pressure and folds in the big moment but he may go 9 overall.
We scored how many points last year....DESPERATE for O.....Hunter for sure- best athlete, two for one- some D to go with O. I'd like best running back or Milroe at 33 IF available....time will tell. You have to score to win. Hunter hipper.
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