DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Chud declines Ravens Int Request, Signs Extension

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Sorry man....that's bad advice.

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You might be able to say he is in a lame duck position sometime 2 seasons from now.....but not now.

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Cleveland Browns extend the contract of offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski
Posted by Tony Grossi January 07, 2008 10:37AM

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Browns offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski is staying put.The Browns intercepted Baltimore's courtship of Rob Chudzinski with a new contract extension, The Plain Dealer has confirmed.
Chudzinski was supposed to interview in Baltimore today for the Ravens head coach vacancy, but he telephoned Ravens General Manager Ozzie Newsome over the weekend and canceled.

Chudzinski's wife, Sheila, gave birth to the couple's second child on Dec. 30, the last day of the season. Chudzinski told the Ravens he wanted to maintain his stability in Cleveland.

Chudzinski was named Browns coordinator a year ago and originally was signed through 2010. The extension is believed to be for two more seasons.

The Browns feared that Chudzinski would interview well in Baltimore and might have won the job. The Ravens felt Chudzinski would pair nicely with defensive coordinator Rex Ryan and his University of Miami background would mesh well with the current Ravens roster.

A club source confirmed the extension but not the terms.

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That think about his Miami background meshing with the current roster should read more like, "mesh with Ray Lewis"

Go Phil

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I doubt it too....just taking some of the info and half info out there and thinking out loud....

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The only trouble with "thinking out loud" is that everyone sees you talking to yourself. Sure sign of mental infirmity, many believe.

There is always a possibility that the strage and bizarre could happen. Heck, aliens could warp down to our planet, beam up Chud, RAC, K2, JT, Steiney and Jamal... and take off- with the seeds of their new powerhouse entry into the IGFL*


But it ain't too likely... knowhatimean?





*Inter-Galactic Football League

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potential future HC position???

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This:

I fully expect Chud to be gone as a HC somehere else, but that in itself is all just speculation, I guess.

Then this?

Why do we have to second-guess every morsel of information about this team and suggest there are ulterior motives to every move that is made? It's ridiculous. But that's JMHO.

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I'm allowed to speculate, as are you... as do we all. Stating that it's ridiculous is... well, you know. Chud's a great potential choice for a future HC in Cleveland. Don't think it hasn't been thought about or even discussed... possibly during the contract extension negotiations. But that's JMHO.

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"I would like to thank Ozzie Newsome and the Baltimore Ravens organization for considering me as a candidate for their head coaching position," Chudzinski said in a statement. "However, at this time it was the best decision for me both personally and professionally to stay in Cleveland and continue the rebuilding process with the Browns. I'm pleased with the progress we made as an offensive unit this season and I feel this team is headed in the right direction."


That click you just heard was Phil releasing his finger from the trigger..of the barrell pointed at Chud's dome

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I read that quote as political speak. Translation: No freaking way am I going to coach for that POS, wannabe team when I have the opportunity to stay right where I've always wanted to be anyway. Thanks but buh-bye.

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Okay, well, I took note of my speculative comment and tempered it when I realized what I was doing. But I just don't know how you can suggest it has been "thought of or even discussed" without proof.

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New post to seperate from the RAC clutter...merge if need be.

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Chudzinski signs extension, won't interview with Ravens
By Jamison Hensley | Sun reporter
6:52 AM EST, January 7, 2008


Cleveland offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski won't interview for the Ravens' head coaching vacancy today because he got a contract extension from the Browns, a league source said.

Chudzinski joins Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz and New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels as coaches who have removed themselves from the Ravens' list.

In his first season as offensive coordinator, Chudzinski turned the Browns into one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL.


jamison.hensley@baltsun.com

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Good news....there may have also been a wink and a nod about us planning to promote from with-in for our next head coach.

And it could happen sooner then later.

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Sorry man....that's bad advice.

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I would NEVER tell you that what you know to be fact due to your education and/or years of experience is bad advice...

IN other words, I'd never give Legal advice...

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Sorry if I stepped on your toes...that wasn't the intent....something made him change his mind...and I doubt it was just an extension.

As someone pointed out...the appointment was set, thus he had to have said yes, he would interview at some point.

Between that yes and his ultimately declining to not show for the interview, Chud didn't all of a sudden become loyal to Cleveland and all the other stuff we are reading...something was said that made he feel better about his position and standing here.....I hope it was more than a few more years and X amount of dollars.


Oh......I still think it is wise for people to interview for positions of promotion when the opportunity is presented.....even if you know you won't take the job if offered.

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I forget that common sense is hard to come by these days. Agent works for Rac. Agent trying to get a new deal for his client so he contacts the major networks to say they are negotiating. Well no negotiations have taken place so umm.

nah it was a conspiracy between the networks, randy lerner and Racs agent just to make everyone think that RAC is trying to get an extension. that is much easier to believe than RAC and his agent trying to get a new deal lol.

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Oh......I still think it is wise for people to interview for positions of promotion when the opportunity is presented.....even if you know you won't take the job if offered.

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Agree again and a lot of the pro football websites are saying this. Even if he plans on declining the job or doesn't think he'd get it, he still should have interviewed to gain that "valuable experience". Kind of leaves you wondering...

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Sorry if I stepped on your toes...that wasn't the intent....something made him change his mind...and I doubt it was just an extension.

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As someone pointed out...the appointment was set, thus he had to have said yes, he would interview at some point.

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Between that yes and his ultimately declining to not show for the interview, Chud didn't all of a sudden become loyal to Cleveland

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Oh......I still think it is wise for people to interview for positions of promotion when the opportunity is presented.....even if you know you won't take the job if offered.

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Okay, well, I took note of my speculative comment and tempered it when I realized what I was doing. But I just don't know how you can suggest it has been "thought of or even discussed" without proof. I guess this is what Vers was referring to the other day when he spoke of people making things up to support what they believe is really going on. And like him, I've had just about as much as I can take.

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Daman has kinda addressed this but i'd like to add my .02 also. And you ain't the only one on here to feel this way so i'm not singling you out.

Let's re-take a look at Peen's original post which kinda kicked it all off. It's fairly simple to see what is speculation and what is presented as fact.

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there may have also been a wink and a nod about us planning to promote from with-in for our next head coach.

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Yes there "may"....as in "there may not" also. Not, "there was". Peen's speculation here is probably derived from the fact that an OC has turned down a chance to be a HC. Which is the top of the tree as far as a career move goes....thats why it's interesting to speculate the whys and in this case, the why nots. (If people don't think that being the HC of the Baltimore Ravens isn't a desirable position in this league then they are deluded....no speculation there on my part btw....and no, i don't have a link. )

In all honesty, it's the first thing that came to my mind.

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And it could happen sooner then later.

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Yes it could. It also couldn't....no fact there and probably a reference to Miami's percieved interest in RAC. (if i'm putting words in your mouth here Peen feel free to chime in, i am in fact speculating on your posts not passing off my interpretation as "fact." )

In fact, i might be inclined to read this not as Dawg in Dayton did of RAC being fired, but more as Chud being groomed for the future with the nod and a wink of an assurance of the head job several years down the line. RAC ain't getting any younger (IIRC there was concern of his age when he was hired, his pysique lends itself to health issues also.) Who knows?

"Maybe" the Browns get an offer from Parcells that makes Savage go, (how was it?) "Oooooohhhh"

A thread of thought can usually end up leading to interesting discussion and theorising, it doesn't always have to be "me against you, i'm right your wrong" chitfight...

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Just to run with some of the talk of the last few weeks.

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OK then, we've all read it, so lets.

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Say Miami delivers McFadden to Dallas for both their 1st rounds

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maybe a second and a future pick

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Maybe, maybe not. (see where i'm going with this? )

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Miami is also said to want Romeo and could use DA

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Miami's crush on RAC is well documented so Peen states what he's heard/read. Does anybody disagree that Miami could use DA?

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a couple of first rounders for DA and Romeo....maybe Jason Taylor thrown in to sweeten the deal

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who knows????

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Who knows indeed...


Now the way i look at a post like that is to imagine a group of friends in a bar just shooting the breeze. There is nothing in that post at all that causes me offense in any way....i mean, writers,j ourno's and talking heads can "speculate" and "offer opinions" and try and read between the lines but us Dawgtalkers are not allowed to for risk of causing offense or having the new buzz word "Agenda", levelled at you? BS!!

Without opinion and speculation this thread would be just one post, the first one. you think those journo's and writers are right all the time?

"Word is" ( ) more than half the time they're as wrong as the rest of us. but that's half the fun.

The more i read Dawgtalkers the last couple of months, the more i (think) i understand Eo's usual disclaimer on the arse end of every post....it's usually "JMHO" (as opposed to JMHFactoid ). I always thought it was weird that he had to quantify what were obviously his thoughts with that acronym....i guess if it ain't clear to some people we should all start using it!

JMHO


(ps Lampy)

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For the most part, seems posters are saying Chud could maybe perhaps might replace Romeo down the line, but not right away.
Maybe you need a cup of it, too.

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Absofreakinlutely

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One other thing to consider....and I know a few of you will be able to follow this.

Declining to interview for a position is dumb.

Part of getting jobs is knowing how to interview for a job....declining to interview isn't a smart move unless we somehow gave Chud reason to believe he isn't going to need that experience.

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How would anybody feel about the Browns hiring a coach with 1 season as an OC for their HC job?

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Here's another example of something I saw posted recently:

"Does anyone feel that perhaps Chud used this as a bargaining chip in order to get an extension?"

You must feel that he has, but you have no proof. :

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Actually, no. I really don't feel one way or the other about it. I'm not suggesting that this is the case like you suggested there were talks about Chud being the next HC. See, I guess that's the fine line isn't it? I can pose a question to members of the board without suggesting anything. What I refuse to do is suggest something is happening behind the scenes without really having any way of knowing that is indeed happening. So call it what you want... Speculation, hunches, "a shot in the dark", whatever. It's all just blind guesses. But what happens is that when people start to see something posted often enough, they mistakenly believe it to be true. I'm just trying to avoid all that. But do what you will. Happy New Year to you too!