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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
You do know this is not the process nor the sentence for entering this country illegally don't you? Doesn't what the law says mean anything to you anymore? You advocate we ignore our own laws? What you have posted is a prime example of how laws don't mean anything to some people anymore.


Don't you get it by now Pit..., Republicans, the party of Law and Order doesn't give a damn about Law and Order.

Then they put up silly photos (mind you, we don't know where that was even taken, but that's not the point) And it doesn't mirror the fact that this guy (garcia) wasn't a member of a gang. he was an upstanding member of his community and his trade union (who has come out strongly for him)..

But that doesn't mean anything... Not to MAGA


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Republicans, the party of Law and Order doesn't give a damn about Law and Order.

Truth be told, they only give a damn with the laws their King agrees with.


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Supreme Court orders Trump administration not to deport Venezuelans under Alien Enemies Act for now

The justices said no action should be taken to pursue the deportations of any alleged Venezuelan gang members in Texas under the rarely used wartime law.

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court in the early hours of Saturday told the Trump administration not to take any action to deport Venezuelan men based in Texas it alleges are gang members.

The court did not grant or deny an application filed by lawyers for the detainees, but effectively hit pause on the case, which affects people currently held within the jurisdiction of the Northern District of Texas.

“The government is directed not to remove any member of the putative class of detainees from the United States until further order of this court,” the brief order said.

Two conservative justices, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, disagreed with the Supreme Court decision, the order noted.

At around the same time, the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals rejected a request by the men, who the administration alleges are gang members, to halt any deportations under a wartime law called the Alien Enemies Act.

On Friday afternoon, at least one charter bus rolled up to the Bluebonnet Detention Center in Anson, Texas, a town about 200 miles west of Dallas, where the men are being held.

Administration officials are seeking to deport the men, who they say are members of the Tren de Aragua gang. There are major questions about whether the government has the authority to apply the Alien Enemies Act to gang members outside of a war situation and whether adjudications about gang membership are accurate.

The plaintiffs “ask only that this court preserve the status quo so that proposed class members will not be sent to a notorious prison in El Salvador before the American judicial system can afford them due process,” their lawyers at the American Civil Liberties Union wrote in the Supreme Court filing.

In the court order, the justices said the government should file a response to the ACLU application at the Supreme Court “as soon as possible.”

In a statement, Lee Gelernt, the lead ACLU attorney in the case, praised the Supreme Court's decision, saying, “These men were in imminent danger of spending their lives in a horrific foreign prison without ever having had a chance to go to court. We are relieved that the Supreme Court has not permitted the administration to whisk them away the way others were just last month.”

The Supreme Court action follows an April 7 decision in which the court made it clear that any people the government wants to deport under the Alien Enemies Act need to be given the chance to challenge the decision via habeas corpus petitions.

The case raises questions not just about Trump’s aggressive and unprecedented use of presidential power in invoking the 18th-century law, which has been used only when the country was at war, but also about whether his administration is complying with court orders.

In its earlier decision, the Supreme Court faulted a judge in Washington for the way he handled the case but said plaintiffs could sue in the districts in which they are confined. The vote to overturn the lower court was 5-4, with liberal justices joined in part by conservative Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

Litigation continues in a separate case over the Trump administration’s mistaken deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to El Salvador.

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The same but different. Does he do this stuff because he thinks his base is stupid or because his base is stupid?

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A quick break from football, for something more important
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Published April 18, 2025 08:29 PM
Hello. Good evening. Or good morning. Possibly, good afternoon. Whenever you find this, you’ll be getting fair notice from the get go.

If you prefer to stick to football, don’t read it.

It’s simple. If you’re in the PFT Rumor Mill, keep scrolling. If you somehow tripped over this elsewhere, click out of it. Or swipe in whichever direction you need to swipe in order to get it off the screen of your device.

If you stick around, don’t complain about what comes next. You can disagree with me; you’re fully entitled to your own opinions and beliefs. Just don’t whine about how this isn’t about football. You’ve gotten fair warning to not read it.

Good? Good.

And, not good. I addressed it at the outset of Friday’s PFT Live. The feedback has been overwhelmingly (and surprisingly) positive. For those who primarily consume our content on this platform, here’s the situation.

Our country currently is in a crisis. It’s blossoming in multiple ways, through multiple pieces of litigation. The main issue that has been weighing me down mentally and emotionally in recent days is the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

My concerns are irrelevant to whether he’s a member of MS-13. Or whether he should or shouldn’t be deported. Or whether he is or isn’t a good husband and father. The source of my stress is that his case exposes a basic, fundamental threat to our system of government.

It’s hard to type those words without regarding them as over the top. I wish they were. They aren’t. At the core of all of the rhetoric and rambling and ad hominem attacks and both-sides, “what-about?” [censored] resides a core question of whether the executive, legislative, and judicial branches will continue to be co-equal. As the founders intended. And as the country has operated, for nearly 250 years.

Here’s the problem. Currently, the executive branch has no regard for decisions of the judicial branch that conflict with the executive’s agenda. They’ll never complain about the victories. They will routinely and aggressively attack the defeats, by all means necessary. Including flat-out refusing to comply with them.

That’s not how it’s supposed to be. I worked in the legal profession for 18 years. When you win, you win. When you lose, you lose. You may not like losing, but you’ve lost. You deal with it, and you move on.

Not this executive branch. When this executive branch loses, the judges are vaguely threatened with impeachment. They are attacked as impeding the will of the government. And their orders are ignored.

Yes, they’re appealed. And appealed. At some point, the appeals have been exhausted and the “L” must be taken and respected.

This isn’t about red. It’s not about blue. It’s about red, white, and blue. If you believe in this country, and if you accept the basic concept of law and order, you necessarily should be troubled by the failure of the executive branch to accept the outcomes of the judicial branch.

In the case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia — and in other cases — that’s not happening. The executive branch is openly refusing to honor the orders of the judicial branch.

The problem was best articulated and summarized in a Thursday ruling written by J. Harvie Wilkinson III. He’s not some garden-variety liberal activist. He’s a respected and longstanding judge, who was appointed to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in 1984, by Ronald Reagan. He was reportedly on the short list of potential Supreme Court appointees in 2004, by George W. Bush. He is, was, and always has been a conservative jurist.

Here’s some of what he wrote, at a time when the executive branch refuses to comply with multiple directives of the judicial branch, up to and including a Supreme Court that the current executive previously stacked with supposedly like-minded justices: “Now the [executive and judicial] branches come too close to grinding irrevocably against one another in a conflict that promises to diminish both. This is a losing proposition all around. The Judiciary will lose much from the constant intimations of its illegitimacy, to which by dent of custom and detachment we can only sparingly reply. The Executive will lose much from a public perception of its lawlessness and all of its attendant contagions. The Executive may succeed for a time in weakening the courts, but over time history will script the tragic gap between what was and all that might have been, and law in time will sign its epitaph.”

In far less artful terms, Judge Wilkinson is saying that, if the executive branch refuses to accept and respect the decisions of the judicial branch — decisions that serve as an important check and balance against the power of the executive branch — everyone loses. The executive branch, the judicial branch, and ultimately the rule of law and our overall system of government.

Basically, the current executive is picking a fight that it believes it can win, because he and his hand-picked lieutenants believe there’s nothing the judicial branch can do to implement its orders if the executive branch is determined to not comply. In 1974, for example, the Supreme Court delivered a ruling that ultimately brought down a president, by compelling Richard Nixon to release the notorious Watergate tapes.

President Nixon complied with the ruling. He didn’t say, in essence, “Make me.” The current executive branch is playing the “make me” card. Over and over again.

If, for example, the judicial branch believes that specific persons have shown sufficient contempt of court to be incarcerated, the executive branch can refuse to implement the order to take the person into custody and deliver him, or her, to the designated facility. Even before that, the Department of Justice, which is an arm of the executive branch, can refuse to exercise prosecutorial discretion in a way that would initiate the formal process of making accountable those who openly defy the orders of the court system.

At a time when the term “Constitutional crisis” is bandied about all too frequently, this is exactly what we have. The courts have spoken, and they continue to speak. The executive branch has refused to comply, and it continues to do so.

During the most recent election, both sides claimed that, if the other side wins, we’ll lose our democracy. It’s currently happening, folks. In slow but inevitable motion.

“We yet cling to the hope that it is not naïve to believe our good brethren in the Executive Branch perceive the rule of law as vital to the American ethos,” Judge Wilkinson wrote. “This case presents their unique chance to vindicate that value and to summon the best that is within us while there is still time.”

The language is beautiful and poignant. The message is dire. Unless and until the executive branch commits to respecting all decisions of the judicial branch, our system will begin to disintegrate. And the executive branch will become a monarchy, an authoritarian regime, a dictatorship.

I know it sounds hyperbolic. In this case, it’s true.

Again, it’s not about the facts of any one case. It’s about the outcome of a process that has been in place since the birth of the republic to resolve disputes. In every case that is resolved by the courts, someone wins and someone loses. In the Abrego Garcia case and others like it, the executive branch has realized that a win remains possible, in the form of ignoring that it has lost.

In the most memorable scene from 2004’s Miracle, Kurt Russell (playing Herb Brooks) forced the members of the U.S. Olympic hockey team to skate and skate and skate until one fundamental question was answered correctly: Who do you play for?

We’re not playing for party. We’re not playing for ideology. We’re not playing for our own financial or social interests. We’re playing for the United States of America. And if the current executive branch refuses to acknowledge the basic truth that it is, or should be, playing for the United States of America, the system has necessarily commenced its collapse.

Judge Wilkinson clings to the hope that the executive branch will abandon its current course. All Americans who truly love this country should have that hope. And we all should pray that it comes to fruition.

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MAGA really throwing the label ‘terrorist’ around nonchalantly.

My blood pressure rises every time I hear some American use words like ‘invaders’ and such. Really trying to have their “you’re either with us or against us” moment.

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Oober I have said that once the border is controlled and we have removed the bulk of the people here illegally we can then do a complete revamp of our immigration system so I agree with what you said there. But the revamped immigration process has to have at its core the goal of making America better.

Forget the immigration system, it's our justice system that's the issue here.

Like it or not, we have a set of laws and process that our courts/law enforcement is supposed to follow. If Trump doesn't like it, then change it. MAGA has every branch of govt right now.


I'll say it again, it's horrifying to me how folks on this thread (self-described patriots) are on-board with throwing due process in the bin.

To be clear, if our laws were allowed to run its course, I'd be side-by-side with you in this thread. But they weren't... our justice system was short-circuited by the same group that has already been caught deporting people that are here legally. MAGA wants to make this all about the person which is missing the forest for the trees.


Let's just skip to the end (after 6 pages). Are you on-board with removing the concept of due process from our justice system? This is a yes/no question. The situation we're debating is VERY black/white.


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It would be a LOT easier to just post the judge's decision that he should be deported. Don't you think?

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Conservative judge blasts Trump administration’s ‘shocking’ conduct in Abrego Garcia case

Must be another Rino... deep state.... something right. It can't be that Trump is WAY out of line and peeing all over the law and constitution.


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He's done peeing on it
He's now squatting over it dropping a large steaming deuce


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DHS: Abrego Garcia driving convicted human smuggler's vehicle during TN traffic stop
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Is this the excuse you're now using as to why he doesn't deserve due process? Keep it up.


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DHS: Abrego Garcia driving convicted human smuggler's vehicle during TN traffic stop
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local...smugglers-vehicle-during-tn-traffic-stop

Sounds like an easy conviction, don't you think?


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Trump-appointed judge orders return of Venezuelan migrant deported to El Salvador

A judge ruled Wednesday that the Trump administration must facilitate the return of a 20-year-old migrant, who was deported last month, because his removal violated a class action lawsuit settled last year.

A Trump-appointed federal judge has ordered the Trump administration to facilitate the return of a Venezuelan man who was deported to El Salvador last month, saying his deportation violated a prior court settlement.

The 20-year-old migrant, who goes by the pseudonym "Cristian" in court filings, was deported to an El Salvador prison on March 15.

The deportation came after President Donald Trump's "Invocation of the Alien Enemies Act Regarding the Invasion of the United States by Tren de Aragua" proclamation, known as the AEA proclamation.

Maryland District Judge Stephanie A. Gallagher, however, ruled Wednesday that Cristian should not have been deported because he is part of a class action settlement that bars his removal pending his asylum application adjudication.

Cristian was part of a class action lawsuit filed in 2019 by a group of undocumented immigrants who entered the U.S. as unaccompanied children and later sought to remain in the U.S. as their asylum applications were adjudicated on the merits by United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS). A settlement in the case was reached in 2024.

Despite the settlement, Cristian was deported.

Counsel for the class plaintiffs filed an emergency motion on April 14 to enforce the settlement agreement.

But the defendants — including the Department of Homeland Security, USCIS and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement — argued that Cristian's removal didn’t violate the settlement agreement because "his designation as an alien enemy pursuant to the AEA results in him ceasing to be a member" of the class group.

A declaration filed by Robert L. Cerna, an ICE acting field office director for Enforcement and Removal Operations, said Cristian was arrested in January for cocaine possession in Harris County and ERO later placed a detainer on him. Cerna said ICE determined Cristian was subject to the AEA proclamation.

Gallagher ordered that he be returned to the U.S. under the settlement agreement.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...uelan-migrant-deported-el-sal-rcna202748


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This info is clearly not new.. Yet SCOTUS 9-0 vote to return him and more recently a Trump appointed judge demands the same.

If you can, explain why that is! What evidence is there that demands Due Process for this man that this article seems to make clear is tied to something not so legal.


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Maybe that conservative SCOTUS of which trump appointed three of the justices to is who he meant when he said, "Keep it up."

Or maybe he meant the trump appointed judge that ordered he bring a second one back today?

Nah.....


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Lmao. Piers morgan is absolute gutter trash. Having a few factoids doesn't make him credible.


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Yet another one trying to compare locking people up in a foreign prison based on accusations without due process to deportation. The old bait and switch con game is strong with this type. Staying on the actual topic isn't favorable to them.

I haven't heard anyone object to deporting illegals.


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FBI arrests Wisconsin Judge Dugan on obstruction charge, escalates Trump immigration enforcement effort

Federal agents arrested a Wisconsin judge on Friday after she allegedly helped an undocumented immigrant evade arrest.

FBI Director Kash Patel announced in an X post that Milwaukee Circuit Court Judge Hannah Dugan has been charged with obstruction for allegedly assisting Eduardo Flores-Ruiz in avoiding arrest after he appeared in her courtroom last week.

A U.S. Marshals Service spokeswoman confirmed to CNBC that Dugan was arrested at about 8:30 a.m. local time on courthouse property.

The arrest of a judge marks a sharp escalation in the Trump administration’s aggressive efforts to remove undocumented immigrants from the U.S.

Dugan was released on bond after making her initial appearance Friday morning in U.S. District Court in Milwaukee before Magistrate Judge Stephen Dries, according to her case docket. Dugan’s “arraignment and plea” proceeding is set for May 15, the docket shows.

Milwaukee County Circuit Court Chief Judge Carl Ashley told NBC that the judicial code of conduct restricts him from commenting on the matter, but said Dugan’s court calendar “will be covered by another judge as needed.”

Patel in his tweet wrote that the FBI believes Dugan “intentionally misdirected federal agents away” from Flores-Ruiz as agents were attempting to arrest him at her courthouse.

“Thankfully our agents chased down the perp on foot and he’s been in custody since, but the Judge’s obstruction created increased danger to the public,” Patel said in the post.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reported Tuesday that the FBI was looking into Dugan’s conduct surrounding an attempted arrest by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents at her courthouse on April 18.

On that day, Dugan “became visibly angry” after learning that ICE agents were waiting in the hallway to arrest Flores-Ruiz after a hearing in his criminal battery case, according to a sworn affidavit unsealed Friday.

Dugan and another judge entered the hallway and confronted the arrest team, telling one deportation officer that he needed a judicial warrant to make an arrest instead of an “administrative warrant.” Dugan then ordered them to the chief judge’s office, the affidavit alleged.

After returning to her courtroom, Dugan “escorted Flores-Ruiz and his counsel” through a jury door, which leads to a nonpublic area of the building, the affidavit stated, citing “multiple witnesses.”

Flores-Ruiz and his attorney then returned to the hallway and took an elevator down to leave the building, the special agent alleged. After being told that Flores-Ruiz was in front of the courthouse, agents ran toward him and identified themselves as law enforcement officers.

“Flores-Ruiz turned around and sprinted down the street. A foot chase ensued,” according to the affidavit.

“The agents pursued Flores-Ruiz for the entire length of the courthouse and ultimately apprehended him near the intersection of W. State Street and 10th Street. Flores-Ruiz was handcuffed and detained,” it alleged.

Dugan’s criminal complaint shows she has been charged with concealing an individual to prevent his discovery and arrest, and obstructing or impeding a proceeding before a federal department or agency.

ICE agents have previously arrested people in the courthouse hallways in March and April, according to the Journal Sentinel.

ICE did not immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment. A person who answered a call to Dugan’s chambers declined to comment.

White House spokesman Kush Desai said in a statement to NBC, “The days of actively aiding and abetting illegal aliens invading our country are over.”

“The Trump administration will never waver on putting Americans and America First with a no-nonsense approach to immigration enforcement. In this administration, anyone who commits crimes exposes themselves to criminal liability,” Desai said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/25/fbi-arrest-judge-hannah-dugan-milwaukee.html

I don't know enough about the differing types of warrants to say who was right here. But I think this is a precedent worthy of paying close attention to.


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The part you have in bold is actually quite a big deal. One that people are overlooking to a huge extent.

This is WILD.

I’d be curious to see what our tenth amendment advocates think of this. I can only think of one on this board, but he purposefully does not read my posts. Not sure if there are any others who would like to address it.


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“The Trump administration will never waver on putting Americans and America First with a no-nonsense approach to immigration enforcement. In this administration, anyone who commits crimes exposes themselves to criminal liability,” Desai said.

This is the part that the Trumptards will be lappign up and frothing at the mouth with glee thinking it's wonderful and overdue - to hell with due process. We'll probably have one along here soon telling us that if we are for due process and the rule of law then we must love the rapist and gangbangers and open borders ....

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TRUMP HAS NOW DEPORTED MULTIPLE U.S. CITIZEN CHILDREN WITH CANCER

Two families — among them three U.S. citizens aged two, four, and seven — were abruptly deported under "troubling circumstances," says the ACLU of Louisiana
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As part of Donald Trump‘s immigration crackdown, three U.S. citizen children were deported with their mothers by the New Orleans Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on Friday morning. One of the children was undergoing cancer treatment and one of the mothers is pregnant.

Both families had lived in the country for years and had ties to their communities, according to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Louisiana, which warns that the circumstances of their sudden deportations raises grave due process concerns. The civil rights organization says that the first family was detained on Tuesday and the second family on Thursday, and that one of the mothers was given less than one minute on the phone before the call was abruptly dropped, after her spouse attempted to provide a phone number to legal counsel.

Among the children deported with their mothers, says the ACLU, are three U.S. citizens aged two, four, and seven. One of the children is a four-year-old suffering from a rare form of metastatic cancer and was deported out of the country without medication or consultation with their treating physicians — despite ICE being notified in advance of the child’s medical needs. The civil rights organization says that the mother of the two-year-old is pregnant, and was deported without ensuring any continuity of prenatal care or proper medical care.

“Once again, the government has used deceptive tactics to deny people their rights. These outrageous actions must be condemned. We as a nation are better than this,” said Alanah Odoms, the Executive Director of the ACLU of Louisiana. “These families deserve better. They must be returned.”

The two-year-old child’s deportation was covered widely Friday evening by media outlets, after the judge in the case demanded a hearing and wrote in a court filing that it appeared the Trump administration had “just deported a U.S. citizen with no meaningful process.”

According to ACLU, both the families were reportedly isolated during key moment when decisions were made over the health, safety, and legal rights of the children involved, as they were not able to consult with legal representatives. ICE’s own written directives mandate coordination for the care of minor children with willing caretakers during detainment.

“A government agency that sequesters and deports vulnerable mothers with their US citizen children without due process must be defunded, not rewarded with an additional 45 billion dollars to continue at taxpayers’ expense,” said Mich P. Gonzalez, founding partner of Sanctuary of the South. “These families were lawfully complying with ICE’s orders and for this they suffered cruel and traumatic separation. If this is what the Trump administration is orchestrating just three months in, we should all be terrified of what the next four years will bring.”

This is at least the second time the Trump administration has deported a child suffering from cancer. Last month, a U.S. citizen and 10-year-old child with brain cancer was deported from Texas to Mexico with her undocumented parents.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
The part you have in bold is actually quite a big deal. One that people are overlooking to a huge extent.

This is WILD.

I’d be curious to see what our tenth amendment advocates think of this. I can only think of one on this board, but he purposefully does not read my posts. Not sure if there are any others who would like to address it.

Interesting question. I had to think about this for a few moments.

Where do Federal powers end and States rights begin? Or maybe the other way around. It's been a roller coaster discussion for a few hundred years and a big cause of the war between the states. First, I am an advocate for states rights. However...

Border security is a federal jurisdiction because in a roundabout way it touches on foreign relations. If things were reversed in Texas and they decided to have an open border and allow anyone in, could they? Without counting all the border states in this country, would having ? amount of conflicting state laws be good? So IMO if it is established that the Feds the have enumerated control over the borders of this country, it makes sense to me it has the implied power to have the authority to detain and deport those who violate those laws over any stance an individual state wants to try to enforce.

The 10th is a tricky one. Sometimes it is hard to sift through enumerated powers, implied, and inherent powers. Sometimes it is in the eyes of the beholder or decade of choice.


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We all knew US citizens were going to get caught up and be deported illegally if Trump was elected. Republicans knew it, Democrats knew it. Independents knew it. There is no surprise to any of this. Murica!


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It's odd how many people screamed about states right up until the point it didn't serve their purpose. Then suddenly all bets are off. trump made it plain that states rights would be trampled if he were elected. But they liked his tough sounding agenda so they sold another one of what used to be their principals down the river.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
It's odd how many people screamed about states right up until the point it didn't serve their purpose. Then suddenly all bets are off. trump made it plain that states rights would be trampled if he were elected. But they liked his tough sounding agenda so they sold another one of what used to be their principals down the river.

Being in favor of states rights or federal jurisdiction isn't an all or nothing topic. One can be in favor of one but understand the necessity of the other.

Every situation is different, so the rational person needs to understand that. That is why I explained why it has been a stumbling point for decades. It's hard to define where one starts and the other ends.

There was nothing sudden in my expressed opinion.


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Trump DOJ Ordered ICE to Invade Homes Without Search Warrant
Malcolm Ferguson
Fri, April 25, 2025 at 2:33 PM EDT2 min read


The Justice Department quietly invoked the Alien Enemies act last month to give Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents the power to conduct warrantless searches of people’s homes as long as they suspect them to be an “alien enemy.” USA Today obtained the memo that contained this order on Friday.

“As much as practicable, officers should follow the proactive procedures above—and have an executed Warrant of Apprehension and Removal—before contacting an Alien Enemy,” the memo reads. “However, that will not always be realistic or effective in swiftly identifying and removing Alien Enemies.… An officer may encounter a suspected Alien Enemy in the natural course of the officer’s enforcement activity, such as when apprehending other validated members of Tren de Aragua. Given the dynamic nature of enforcement operations, officers in the field are authorized to apprehend aliens upon a reasonable belief that the alien meets all four requirements to be validated as an Alien Enemy. This authority includes entering an Alien Enemy’s residence to make an AEA apprehension where circumstances render it impracticable to first obtain a signed Notice and Warrant of Apprehension and Removal” (emphasis added).

In the memo, the Justice Department defined an “alien enemy” as anyone who is 14 years of age or older, not a U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident, a citizen of Venezuela, and “a member of the hostile enemy Tren de Aragua,” per the Alien Enemy Validation Guide, a document that has already been slammed by immigration experts.



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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
We all knew US citizens were going to get caught up and be deported illegally if Trump was elected. Republicans knew it, Democrats knew it. Independents knew it. There is no surprise to any of this. Murica!

I think you are confused about being a citizen and a person living here. There is a difference.


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Since this seems to be a point yo have ignored I'll try again.....

We "sent him to a prison there and paid them to keep him there." El Salvador didn't put him there. There was an actual court order in place NOT TO SEND HIM THERE. When did a former legal official such as yourself determine that breaking a court order that is in place become okay?


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I think you are confused about being a citizen and a person living here. There is a difference.

A citizen is any person born in this country. At least according to the constitution.


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Bill O’Reilly Turns on Trump and Reveals the Huge ‘Mistake’ He Is Making
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Sun, April 27, 2025 at 7:10 PM EDT2 min read

Bill O’Reilly has split with President Donald Trump on one issue in particular: the case of a wrongfully deported Maryland dad whose return the Supreme Court has ordered the administration to “facilitate.”

The legendary conservative pundit said the president, whom O’Reilly has steadfastly supported over the years, is making a “mistake” in defying the judiciary.

The former Fox News host said Saturday that the Trump administration should bring back Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador due to an “administrative error.”


“I’ve said that quite clearly: Trump administration’s making a mistake not bringing a man back because the Supreme Court wants the man back,” O’Reilly said on his newscast No Spin News. “If I’m President Trump, I don’t want to alienate the Supreme Court, period.”

Earlier this month, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that the government must “facilitate” Abrego Garcia’s return to the U.S.

Despite that order, the Trump administration has maintained that it has no interest in bringing back a man it accuses of links to the international criminal gang MS-13.

But O’Reilly argued that the way to resolve concerns about Abrego Garcia’s criminal history was to bring him back.

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“If the man is MS-13, that will be proven by the Justice Department,” O’Reilly said, even as he speculated that Abrego Garcia “probably is affiliated” with the notorious gang.

“He’s not some guy cutting the lawn on Saturday in Maryland, but let the Justice Department prove it, and then you boot him,” he went on.

The White House has repeatedly decried “communist left-wing judges” for defying Trump’s sweeping deportation blitz and other efforts to upend the federal government.

In a fresh rebuke of the judiciary on Saturday, Trump claimed in a Truth Social post that “it is not possible to have trials for millions and millions of people.”

“We know who the Criminals are, and we must get them out of the U.S.A. — and FAST!” he wrote.


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O'Reilly is correct that Garcia is not a guy out cutting lawns. He is an apprentice sheet metal worker and a member of the SMART Union local 100.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
“If the man is MS-13, that will be proven by the Justice Department,” O’Reilly said, even as he speculated that Abrego Garcia “probably is affiliated” with the notorious gang.

“He’s not some guy cutting the lawn on Saturday in Maryland, but let the Justice Department prove it, and then you boot him,” he went on.


I never thought we'd get to the point where Bill O'Reilly was a lone common sense holdout... but here we are.

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What do y’all think happens to despot tyrants who try to establish a racist police state, deport citizens, target political enemies, and label normal people as enemies of the state? HINT: it never goes well.

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Viktor Orbán? Our what we have now? Our own Viktor Orbán?


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