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I'll also say that (unless someone wants to blow our mind) I hope we're done trading down. We're now in the real meat of this draft. We should be maximizing the number of picks we have today vs dropping back, IMO.
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Every indication leads me to believe that the Browns are loading up for a QB next year and I think that's a wise decision. Having said that it seems to me that picking a QB in the second round this year just because you have another second round pick would be a huge waste of a valuable asset. Especially with those picks being so high in round 2. If the grand plan is to select your future franchise QB next year, don't waste the opportunity to set the stage for his success.
There are a lot of ways you can do that. One is that our OL is aging. We are weak at the OT position or G would help a lot since Bitonio's days are almost done. Every rookie QB can be assisted and take some pressure off with a great running game so a premiere RB would help set the stage. The state of our WR's leaves something to be desired as well so there is always that option. Then as has been discussed we do have a need at CB. A great defense makes it easier to win games while scoring fewer points. That's certainly helpful to any rookie QB and any QB period.
There are so many ways the Browns can invest for the future. What I'm most pleased about, at least to this point, is they didn't panic and reach for a QB that wasn't worth the pick. They seem to have understood that acting desperately would only set them further back and they had to exercise patience. This makes logical sense. I have written a few times, just because they need a QB badly, doesn't improve the talents and abilities of the QBs available this year. I am cool with OL, assuming the Browns think they grade well. What are peoples' thoughts on a TE in the second or third if other positions don't grade well. TE is "supposed" to be a position of strength this year.
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I don't want Sanders now. Obviously he's NOT a FQB, so why waste our time and resources. I'd get the BPA at the playmaking spots
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.... we do have a need at CB. . A serious need, Pit, as both Newsome and Emerson last season were awful. We may also have a need at FS. We cannot fill all our needs with quality players in one draft...
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They'll trade down at #33. Aireontae Erserey at #36. That is my dream scenario. There is premium value with #33 and I would love to land a 1st round next year. I think Erserey has a high ceiling and a can't miss floor. Big, strong, always available. His punch in the run game means we can pull a RB name out of a hat in this year's draft. Mason Taylor with the later 2nd (assuming the trade down) would make me happy. Not that I would lose sleep with another pick, I just think it's another solid choice that could provide long-term production. My favorite thing about Luther Burden III is his name -- great football name. Please don't draft him, I want a larger target and still have PTSD after from Berry being fleeced of Nico Collins. I'll take NC 2.0 with Jayden Higgins from Iowa especially if he falls to the 3rd. If Berry wants to work some magic at DB, I'd prefer he does it at #94 or #126. We dropped 22 slots in the 4th with the trade out of #2. If Berry can find the diamond in the rough DB there, this could easily become his best draft. I say that believing there are a few different avenues to get there with tonight's picks.
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I'm a bit more concerned about our CBs than the national guys have led on - Emerson and Newsome have taken a step back since the playoff game in Houston
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Anybody you like at 33 or 36?
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I’m going to surprise myself and say I want Milroe if he drops to 94. The risk-reward would be acceptable there.
We need an OT. The kid from Minnesota is the only one that I have seen that is worth it. I’m going by what other people say since I haven’t followed the draft this year. With 36 I would pick one of the OSU backs. Henderson might be gone but I like Judkins a lot as well.
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Just curious but would anyone be upset if we took Shedeur at this point? I would not be happy picking Sanders at this point. It negates the purpose of trading #2. That trade was all about getting a QB in 2026 draft and picking Sanders now would make that huge move made yesterday look silly. I do expect the Browns to take a QB in 3rd or 4th round. A developmental QB like Howard, McCord, and Shough.
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Anybody you like at 33 or 36? Emmanwori would be a good secondary pick. Johnson is a stud, but injury might be the risk. I also like Green from Marshall. BUT, I would take Henderson and the best WR available
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I also like Green from Marshall. I have a feeling the alleged sexual assault is why he's falling. Not sure the Browns want to go down that road again when they are pretty deep as it is at DE.
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.... we do have a need at CB. . A serious need, Pit, as both Newsome and Emerson last season were awful. We may also have a need at FS. We cannot fill all our needs with quality players in one draft... And I wholeheartedly agree with that. That's why I support beginning to do so this year and complete the rest in next years draft when they target a QB. My post was simply suggesting positions which they could begin to complete that process. Not that they could target all of those positions with high draft picks this year but just different directions they could look at for needed upgrades.
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Wouldn't complain if Emmanwori were picked. Don't like the injury red flag with Johnson. I'd cringe but still be okay with the pick.
Green is a solid no-can-do. Nobody here wants to do that again. That's probably going to get ugly once a large check hits his account.
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If shedeur is there at the end of the 2nd or so I see a minor trade up to grab him.
Many reports that many scouts don't see him as that very good. And also the headache that Deion might bring.
It's obvious that Berry is stocking up for a move next year as well.
So it's entirely okay though to sit the kid this year and see how he does in practice. See how he develops. And then if there is a more league ready option in the draft next year load up and go get him.
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I wouldn't take Sanders in any round. Just say no. Mostly because I think he's overrated and I don't want the drama with his father not to mention the stories about his interviews if true. We can draft someone else with more potential and no drama.
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I would rather take the risk at a developmental QB in a lower round. Say Howard late in round 3 or early in round 4 if available.
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That's exactly how I feel Pit. Howard would be fine as well as Shough from Louisville.
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j/c...
This continued fall could be wild to watch. Mel Kiper's head is going to explode. Will make for good TV if Shadeur slides into the 3rd.
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I think some of the Browns targets in Round 2 include Treyveon Henderson, Luther Burden, Kaleb Johnson, JT Tuimoloau, Nic Scouton, Jayden Higgins. Round 3-- Jalen Milroe. 
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It's obvious that Berry is stocking up for a move next year as well. If so, and I expect it is, trade down from #33 for a 1st rd next year. We would have awesome power in the 2026 draft. We have a lot of choices tonight....
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I think you could add Mike Green, Will Johnson Jr and Nick Emmanwori to that list of possibilities.
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I hope Green is off the board. He has accusations of sexual assault at Virginia and in high school. He vigorously denies at least the one in Virginia
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[quote=mac][color:#FFFFCC]It does not appear that the Browns are set to pick a QB at #33...jmo
With the Browns sitting at #33 we could see the Browns trying to trade the pick to a team that is more desperate for a "specific QB" than the Browns. Would the Browns give up the #33 pick and a chance at Shedeur Sanders for a 1st round pick in the 2026 draft..?
I think that would be the price if you are talking about a straight trade of our pick for a next year pick. If we are talking about swapping 2nd rounders this year I don't think we could get a 1st next year. Maybe more like a 2nd or 3rd next year, but hey, we can always hope.
I see the next few rounds as the sweet spot of the draft....like any year. I don't want to not have two 2nd round picks in this draft. Those picks tun in to good starters or at minimum solid rotational players. I don't want to give away picks this year. We have a chance to make this a healing draft.
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I think you could add Mike Green, Will Johnson Jr and Nick Emmanwori to that list of possibilities. Mike Green better not be on their board. A box safety seems redundant.
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Mike Green is very talented but again we don't need the drama we've had enough. I would pass on him.
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I think you could add Mike Green, Will Johnson Jr and Nick Emmanwori to that list of possibilities. Mike Green better not be on their board. A box safety seems redundant. Mike Green is an Edge. Emmanwori is a box safety. I know that you know this and just mistyped. I’m only correcting this because some might not know
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I think you could add Mike Green, Will Johnson Jr and Nick Emmanwori to that list of possibilities. Mike Green better not be on their board. A box safety seems redundant. Mike Green is an Edge. Emmanwori is a box safety. I know that you know this and just mistyped. I’m only correcting this because some might not know I know. I was typing under the assumption that everyone knew their positions. I was referring to Mike Green not being on their board due to his sexual assault allegations and Emmanwori being redundant to Delpit. I took some liberties with people's understanding of each player!
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We had people on here complaining about Abdul Carter being to light when there was talk of us picking him at #2 and Mike Green is listed as being lighter than Carter.
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I’m starting to warm up to the idea of Sanders, but I think there are better options for us (specifically the LSU TE or a workhorse RB).
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Would be nice if some team REALLY wanted Sanders with our 33rd pick and we pulled off another Jacksonville type trade.
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Pitt needs a QB more than we do and do not have a 2nd round pick and passed on the guy. Not interested.
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We had people on here complaining about Abdul Carter being to light when there was talk of us picking him at #2 and Mike Green is listed as being lighter than Carter. I think the pick being #2 may have been their issue. I was fine with Carter at 2, but his injuries were more the issue for me. But that's why the team pays doctors.
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Feels like a reach. What does anyone know about this guy?
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Looks like they are drafting best player available regardless of position.
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I am not offended by the player
Round 2 value
Hard worker ...
What I don't understand is how we keep drafting for defense when we had one of (if not THE) worst offenses in the NFL
We need an OT
1 Wr
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and of course a Qb => but I think we wait on Qb planning for next year
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The Browns needed a good DL and a LB
The offensive side of the game just got better with this pick of Judkins !
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