DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk 2025 NFL Draft Browns select QB Dillon Gabriel

Funny how the Browns front office can't ever figure out what
Kind of starting QB they want .
One year it's brash , cocky 5'11 QB like Baker Mayfield
Then it's a QB who is a fantasy owners delight who can't win
Ala DeShawn Watson
Now the Browns are loading their QB room with 2 rookies
Who were ok in college and 40 year old statue and a bum who the
Steelers cut loose real quick

Dang the negativity is awesome in this crowd...

What I see is a terrible option to fill a desolate position. This off season was one of the worst in history to upgrade the position.

My guess is that you would have wanted them to just sign someone like Russell Wilson... whom the Steelers also discarded recently?

What is YOUR answer to the question?

What I see is that they have leveraged about everything they can to try to fill the need for 2025. This isn't necessarily a moving forward move, but signing two veterans at very reasonable deals, one of which is a Super Bowl MVP. Then taking a flyer on two of the better QBs in the draft at points where very few players succeed no matter what position they play, despite it being a very bad class. IF either of them has something physically, Flacco would be a great first year mentor. If neither have that physical and/or mental capacity, you move on to 2026 where you have two first round draft picks to try again to address it.

I just love coming on here and seeing people say what went wrong in the past, complain about what is in progress, but not giving any type of solution that would have been better.

Mayfield is 6'1" by the way, if you are going to knock a guy down, at least get it right...Everyone is dead set on calling him a short QB, but in reality he is closer to average than a lot in the league.

Well for one I most certainly would have not mortgaged my future
For DeShawn Wstson . Dumbest trade in recent memory
2nd acquiring Kenny Pickett just spells desperation.
Hilarious how a couple years these very Browns fans
Were laughing at the Steelers for drafting Pickett
Now Berry is getting praise for it from the same crowd for bringing
Pickett in.
Step away from your Fandom and look at the Browns QB room
How do you rank it?
It's the worst in the league . Right there with the Saints and Steelers QB
Rooms .
You ask me what I would have done . ??
Traded for Joe Milton and gave the Pats a low draft pick .
His metrics destroy what Pickett has to offer

Mayfield is NOT 6' 1".....Combine- 6' 5/8".........I don't care if he's an official midget if he can win games for Browns by any means possible. Go Browns!!!

I felt like we were sending a strong message on the QB position (and by extension, to a degree, the overall team) by trading out of two for a first next year and not selecting a QB with our first few picks. We went out and got Flacco and Pickett (and Kenny was the only one we gave up draft capital for).

I felt like the third round was too soon to start taking wild swings at the QB position... and I find it really weird that we came away from the draft with no picks at OL or WR.

I have zero issues with the Sanders pick even though I don't think he'll pan out. I have zero issues burning a 5th on a QB that nobody apparently wants. I have more issues burning a 3rd.

I guess my reply is if you want a shot at drafting a decent QB, the 3rd is about as far as you can go. I also don't think we can say it is burning a pick until we see how it plays out.

You very well might be right. The odds are also in your favor.

It's funny how things change. We drafted Charlie Frye in the 3rd and the boards were buzzing about finally getting a franchise QB.

So, just to play this back… you are upset that they traded a 5th round pick for a former first round pic, even though I cede that he is a third round talent, then re-signed a former Super Bowl MVP who has already helped the team make the playoffs just two years ago, then spent a 3rd and 5th pick for two new young prospects…

But your answer is that they should have traded for a former SIXTH round draft pick that has reportedly been a really bad teammate?

OK, well at least you have all the answers.

There are three ways to obtain a high-quality QB:

1. You suck the season before to obtain the early pick for the highest probable quarterback. Oh, you also have to suck in the correct year.;

2. You trade for a quarterback;

3. You develop a later-round quarterback.

All three have a low probability of success.

What does it take to develop a quarterback? Very few teams ever develop a quarterback. You either get lucky drafting one or snagging one from another team.

Sam Darnold is a good example of what could happen to Pickett.

Was drafting DTR a good plan? Well, it helped lay some of the groundwork.

What level of quarterback play is acceptable? Everyone wants Mahomes, but Philly won with Hurts.

I think there is way too much emphasis on the quarterback. In the end, it boils down to team/organization chemistry.

Lastly, for people who like to question Berry and Stefanski, do you remember they were hired as rookies? Very few people come into the league and take a team from ground zero to the Super Bowl in a few years. Do you remember the state of the Browns when these two were hired?

So, in you’re expert opinion, if fractions aren’t going to be listed(which is the case in everything outside of the combine) would 6’ 5/8” be closer to 6’1” or 5’11”?

I hate to keep harping on the past, but Bugs’ post is great!

This regime has tried all of the above and the only one that actually worked was #1.

Then they tried to get cute by abandoning that early to try #2 on a guy that quit on his team. Setting aside his off the field issues and not putting them into the equation, we knew how this was going to turn out just by looking at his football ethics. You never quit on your team. In this case his off field ethics matched his on field and it made it clear you can’t bribe a bad guy/teammate into being a better person.

Now, we are in to #3, which has already been tried and failed by this regime.

In order to win without a top 5 QB, you have to build a nearly perfect roster.. it seems they have moved onto that phase as well, but are a couple of years away from seeing if it works. I hope they are given a true chance, which is rare in the NFL.

His answer is they should have taken a gamble on yet another project he likes better.

Gabriel can chuck the pigskin- in college he was a great QB- size matters, but any of these QBs can get hurt- Watson is perfect example, Mayfield again, Manziel got nailed near sidelines.....time will tell. I hope he's next Fran Tark......Go Browns!!!

Watched the Joe Thomas interview and I think he’s right, they should know very quickly if he’s the real deal or not. The upside of drafting a QB with 60 big football program starts under his belt is that he should be able to come in and acclimate a lot more quickly than players with a 1/4-1/3 of the starts he’s had. The speed of the nfl, the complexity of the defenses blah blah blah… he might be pretty quick out of the gates. It’s honestly there for whichever QB just shuts up, nuts up and takes it. Pickett is going to come in with a chip, Sanders….? I don’t know but I’m guessing he’s a ways off from truly vying with all his foot work and drifting issues. I have a sneaking feeling that Gabriel might just push early.

I agree that Gabe is the most NFL ready QB, or as ready as he can be at this point.

That isn't to say he can't get better. I am simply saying the transition should be about as smooth as it gets.

Everything coming out of Berea is basically stating that he was the #2 qb on our board and thus was a Stephanski getting the qb he wanted pick. I think we kinda knew/hoped he was gonna slide and waited patiently. This seems more true when you see the video of Gabriel calling his shot of going to Browns at 94.

I think Flacco or pickett is our #2. Gavriel starts and Sanders is our developmental 3.

I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this. If they loved him so much, why did they wait until the third round? Hearing the Browns had him rated so highly doesn't make the pick any less confusing for me.

I get what you're saying but at the same time people complain that they drafted him two rounds earlier than they needed to. I think they drafted him before they felt anyone else would have. I have no idea how highly they had him ranked on their QB board.