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The first leaks are coming out prior to the May 14th official announcement of the NFL schedule. The first leaks have been about the international schedule of 6 games and the Browns are going to London to play the Vikings. Per typical NFL fashion, the Browns are giving up one of their scheduled 9 home games to travel to London. Considering the Brown 4-year record on the road, sacrificing a home game is a slap in the face by the NFL.

WORST NFL TRAVEL TEAMS THE LAST 4-YEARS
1. Panthers______7-27
2. Bears________ 7-27
3. Giants________9-25
4. Browns_______9-25
5. Jets_________10-24
6. Jaguars______10-24

The Browns are also the only AFC North team to be playing an international game in 2025.

As a FYI, the Vikings are 19-15 on the road the last 4-years and firmly entrenched in the top-10 road teams in the NFL the last 4-years.


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If I were expecting us to be good this year, I'd probably be getting more riled up about this.


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Considering we were 2-6 at home last year, I'm not sure playing in Cleveland was particularly advantageous, either.


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Considering we were 2-6 at home last year, I'm not sure playing in Cleveland was particularly advantageous, either.

Can't argue with that statement. However, over the last 4 seasons the Browns are 20-14 .588 at home compared to 9-25 .265 on the road. Losing a home game certainly appears to be a huge difference in the chance to win than on the road. I'll stick by my point, "Considering the Brown 4-year record on the road, sacrificing a home game is a slap in the face by the NFL."


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Same number of traditional home and away games and one "neutral" site game overseas. Oh the horror. How could they?

Seems like making a big deal out of standard NFL practice to me.

There's nothing wrong with allowing UK Browns fans to see the team in person, too. The NFL is a business. Going global brings in more revenue streams.

There's nothing anti-Browns about it.


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Originally Posted by steve0255
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Considering we were 2-6 at home last year, I'm not sure playing in Cleveland was particularly advantageous, either.

Can't argue with that statement. However, over the last 4 seasons the Browns are 20-14 .588 at home compared to 9-25 .265 on the road. Losing a home game certainly appears to be a huge difference in the chance to win than on the road. I'll stick by my point, "Considering the Brown 4-year record on the road, sacrificing a home game is a slap in the face by the NFL."

Two things…

They doubled the win total at home from on the road.. that’s a joke before anyone blasts me.

In all seriousness though, two negatives when it comes to young QBs playing 1) having to play on the road in a hostile environment. 2)Having to play at home when you aren’t the unanimous starter in the eyes of the fanbase. It can become more hostile than a road game.

The games across the pond are about as close to a neutral playing field as you can get. I wish we could play multiple games over there this year.

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Slow news day,Steve?

Feeling bored?

You don’t have the complete schedule but you’re starting a thread about the schedule?


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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
Considering we were 2-6 at home last year, I'm not sure playing in Cleveland was particularly advantageous, either.

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I'm expecting 2 primetime games .. probably later in the season when Sanders is expected to start

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Originally Posted by steve0255
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Considering we were 2-6 at home last year, I'm not sure playing in Cleveland was particularly advantageous, either.

Can't argue with that statement. However, over the last 4 seasons the Browns are 20-14 .588 at home compared to 9-25 .265 on the road. Losing a home game certainly appears to be a huge difference in the chance to win than on the road. I'll stick by my point, "Considering the Brown 4-year record on the road, sacrificing a home game is a slap in the face by the NFL."

Honestly, I've already resigned myself to us playing for draft position.


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I certainly don't see the whole, "The NFL is out to get the Browns!" picture you're portraying here.


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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I'm expecting 2 primetime games .. probably later in the season when Sanders is expected to start

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When did that happen?


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I certainly don't see the whole, "The NFL is out to get the Browns!" picture you're portraying here.

It's quite simple. The Browns have one of the worst road records in the league over the last 4-years. Giving up a home game in Cleveland while making it a road game significantly hurts the Browns.

To double down on the scheduling, the Vikings have 2 games international in consecutive weeks. A flight from Cleveland to London has a flight duration of 9 Hr and 30 M+. Add in the 5-hour time change and you get a significant disadvantage vs a team already there and adjusted to the time.

There have always been complaints about the effects on the body flying East to West even though with the time change by clock it is only about 2 1/2 hours. The effects on the body will be multiplied 7+ times going to London because in time adjustment you're looking at 14 hrs 30m+ on the clock.

Having traveled for work most of my career, I can say flying West has less effect on the body than flying back East. That same clock difference of 2 1/2 hours going West becomes a clock effect of 8 hours coming back East. Going to London from Cleveland will double that clock time of 14 hrs 30+ and its effect.


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Dude... we went 3-14 last year, and our home record was 2-6. Travel effects are the least of our worries.


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It's the hyperbole that's over the top.....

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sacrificing a home game is a slap in the face by the NFL.

And as for "international travel"? To get to Europe the closest route is over the Atlantic ocean. The further east you are in The United states the closer Europe is.

I think your manufacturing a story that doesn't exist.


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
Dude... we went 3-14 last year, and our home record was 2-6. Travel effects are the least of our worries.

Dude, when you're coming off a 3-14 season and have shown that you win more than twice as many games at home than you do on the road over a 4-year period, it's a worry losing a home game. The Browns may have larger worries but having any kind of plus heading into the season (like an extra home game) originally planned is a value. However, then losing it is just another worry on a season with huge question marks already.


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Worry for the fan base maybe. But not a "slap in the face" by the NFL. There will be seven international games this coming season.

A total of seven teams will be playing a home game in these international games.

In London it will be the Browns, Jets, and Jaguars.

In Berlin it will be the Colts.

In Madrid it will be the Dolphins.

In Dublin it will be the Steelers.

And in São Paulo, Brazil it will be Chargers.


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Good football teams win games. We are not a good football team right now.

Focusing on a slightly lower probability of winning 1 game when you finished last in the division (and it's not close) seems really silly to me.

Put another way... if what you're saying is true, we'd need at least 6 more home games for this to make any difference at all.


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I just want to point out the historical irony of the Vikings playing multiple games and always being the "Visitors"... in the British Isles.

I suspect they will sack London.


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I just want to point out the historical irony of the Vikings playing multiple games and always being the "Visitors"... in the British Isles.

I suspect they will sack London.

I noticed this also. Two international games back-to-back and you don't lose any home games? Not having to go to Pittsburgh or Cleveland with their loud supportive fan bases with basically a rookie QB is a huge advantage.


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I'm glad to get the overseas game now. Assuming this team improves before the new stadium is ready, it's better to get these games in now rather than later.

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Originally Posted by steve0255
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I certainly don't see the whole, "The NFL is out to get the Browns!" picture you're portraying here.

It's quite simple. The Browns have one of the worst road records in the league over the last 4-years. Giving up a home game in Cleveland while making it a road game significantly hurts the Browns.

To double down on the scheduling, the Vikings have 2 games international in consecutive weeks. A flight from Cleveland to London has a flight duration of 9 Hr and 30 M+. Add in the 5-hour time change and you get a significant disadvantage vs a team already there and adjusted to the time.

There have always been complaints about the effects on the body flying East to West even though with the time change by clock it is only about 2 1/2 hours. The effects on the body will be multiplied 7+ times going to London because in time adjustment you're looking at 14 hrs 30m+ on the clock.

Having traveled for work most of my career, I can say flying West has less effect on the body than flying back East. That same clock difference of 2 1/2 hours going West becomes a clock effect of 8 hours coming back East. Going to London from Cleveland will double that clock time of 14 hrs 30+ and its effect.

You made the slap in the face proclamation before the Vikings already being over there was known.

If that had been your complaint earlier, fine. I do think the Vikings having extra time to acclimate is a competitive advantage.

I don't think international games can really be lumped in with regular away games, though. They're a different animal. It's not the opponent's field.

Would us having an "extra" home game have been "fair?" I mean we're so much better there according to you.

It seemed an over the top response to something that seemed fairly reasonable. The league's aim is parity and profits, not giving the Browns advantages. Not slapping them in the face, either.

It's business, not "personal."


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Schedule comes out tonight. I bet we open at home against a division team. Just a guess


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Steelers at Browns Week 1 from reports


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Steelers at Browns Week 1 from reports

Ugh.


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@ Jets week 1 is what I saw.

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I'd prefer us start out with easier opponents. On the off-chance we do get our feet under us (especially the offense) before the season is lost, having those divisional games later could help us.


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I'm seeing Bengals in Cleveland, but we'll see for sure at 8.

Wouldn't hate that one. Notorious slow starters and a defense that's not great and could be dealing with a holdout from their best defensive player.


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I'd prefer us start out with easier opponents. On the off-chance we do get our feet under us (especially the offense) before the season is lost, having those divisional games later could help us.

The Browns are 5-1 against the Steelers at home over the past 5 years, 0-5 against them on the road... so, as long as it's a home game, I feel pretty good. At this point, they might have a rookie in the lineup at QB as well. No news on the Rodgers front. I wouldn't mind seeing Rodgers in there though, Myles, Maliek and Mason can pin their ears back. Will Howard probably can move better than Rodgers these days.

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I just want to point out the historical irony of the Vikings playing multiple games and always being the "Visitors"... in the British Isles.

I suspect they will sack London.

I noticed this also. Two international games back-to-back and you don't lose any home games? Not having to go to Pittsburgh or Cleveland with their loud supportive fan bases with basically a rookie QB is a huge advantage.


You're completely missing the point/humor..... Vikings. Visitors. Viking Invaders. In London and Ireland.

The NFL made a funny joke by not having the Vikings be a Home team in either game.


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
I'd prefer us start out with easier opponents. On the off-chance we do get our feet under us (especially the offense) before the season is lost, having those divisional games later could help us.

I understand the thinking, but in the end all opponents are hard.

All I care about is our guys come out game 1 and are ready to play. In the past we have run camp cupcake and it takes 3 games to be in game shape.

You can't run a camp trying to prevent injury. I am not saying be stupid but come the opener our guys need to be blowing snot.


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I guess the London game replaced our Thursday night game? No prime time games isn't a complete shocker.


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Unfortunately, I could see us opening 0-6. crazy


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yeah the first 6 games are NOT easy. Tough to have them all in a row


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The schedule looks to be very tough to start the year but teams; surprise and disappoint every year. 7 of the first 8 games are against teams with winning records last season and 6 of those games' vs playoff teams. The last 9 games are against only 4 teams that had winning records last season and 3 of them playoff teams.

Somehow the Defense needs to find its 2023 selves. The run game returns to being top 5 in the league with the rookies having big years, and Flacco can use his experience to manage a ball control offense instead of having to throw for 300 yards a game.


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