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Originally Posted by northlima dawg
I also looked a little deeper and I have seen estimates that if this is enacted the way it is proposed-the WORST case for the deficit in like the next 10-15 years would balloon from 36 trillion to almost 55-60 trillion and by 2055 would come close to 100 trillion dollars.

Check out David Walker, comptroller general during several presidents going back to Bush.

With unfunded liabilities, like social security, etc. our debt has been in the 100 trillion range. Again, going back to possibly even clinton. And people think I worry about debt too much. (oh, this isn't an R or D thing. It's real, and both have done it)

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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Welp, there goes that theory....

The problem is that people have knee jerk beliefs.

Side note - the tariff situation...he's spouting off again. How long are we going to be going on this merry-go-round...add to that all the "dump and pump" it's creating where we basically have insider trading?

My guess is there are two possibilities.

1. If the Dems take over the House and Senate in 2026.

2. When trump finally leaves office in 2028


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You are correct that neither party has done anything to help reduce the budget deficit. One difference is right now the party in power tells the people it cares while ballooning the budget deficit even further.

The last administration that seemed to care anything about the budget was Bill Clinton.


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Federal judge blocks Trump administration from barring foreign student enrollment at Harvard

WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge on Friday blocked the Trump administration from cutting off Harvard’s enrollment of foreign students, an action the Ivy League school decried as unconstitutional retaliation for defying the White House’s political demands.

In its lawsuit filed earlier Friday in federal court in Boston, Harvard said the government’s action violates the First Amendment and will have an “immediate and devastating effect for Harvard and more than 7,000 visa holders.”

“With the stroke of a pen, the government has sought to erase a quarter of Harvard’s student body, international students who contribute significantly to the University and its mission,” Harvard said in its suit. “Without its international students, Harvard is not Harvard.”

The temporary restraining order was granted by U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs.

The Trump administration move has thrown campus into disarray days before graduation. Harvard said in the suit. International students who run labs, teach courses, assist professors and participate in Harvard sports are now left deciding whether to transfer or risk losing legal status to stay in the country, according to the filing.

The impact is heaviest at graduate schools such as the Harvard Kennedy School, where almost half the student body comes from abroad, and Harvard Business School, which is about one-third international.

Along with its impact on current students, the move blocks thousands of students who were planning to come for summer and fall classes.

Harvard said it immediately puts the school at a disadvantage as it competes for the world’s top students. Even if it regains the ability to host students, “future applicants may shy away from applying out of fear of further reprisals from the government,” the suit said.

If the government’s action stands, Harvard said, the university would be unable to offer admission to new international students for at least the next two academic years. Schools that have that certification withdrawn by the federal government are ineligible to reapply until one year afterward, Harvard said.

Harvard enrolls almost 6,800 foreign students at its campus in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Most are graduate students and they come from more than 100 countries.

The Department of Homeland Security announced the action Thursday, accusing Harvard of creating an unsafe campus environment by allowing “anti-American, pro-terrorist agitators” to assault Jewish students on campus. It also accused Harvard of coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party, contending the school had hosted and trained members of a Chinese paramilitary group as recently as 2024.

Harvard President Alan Garber earlier this month said the university has made changes to its governance over the past year and a half, including a broad strategy to combat antisemitism, He said Harvard would not budge on its “its core, legally-protected principles” over fears of retaliation. Harvard has said it will respond at a later time to allegations first raised by House Republicans about coordination with the Chinese Communist Party.

The threat to Harvard’s international enrollment stems from an April 16 request from Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, who demanded that Harvard provide information about foreign students that might implicate them in violence or protests that could lead to their deportation.

Harvard says it provided “thousands of data points” in response to Noem’s April 16 demand. Her letter on Thursday said Harvard failed to satisfy her request, but the school said she failed to provide any further explanation.

“It makes generalized statements about campus environment and ‘anti-Americanism,’ again without articulating any rational link between those statements and the decision to retaliate against international students,” the suit said.

Harvard’s lawsuit said the administration violated the government’s own regulations for withdrawing a school’s certification.

The government can and does remove colleges from the Student Exchange and Visitor Program, making them ineligible to host foreign students on their campus. However, it’s usually for administrative reasons outlined in law, such as failing to maintain accreditation, lacking proper facilities for classes, or failing to employ qualified professional personnel.

Noem said Harvard can regain its ability to host foreign students if it produces a trove of records on foreign students within 72 hours. Her updated request demands all records, including audio or video footage, of foreign students participating in protests or dangerous activity on campus.

The lawsuit is separate from the university’s earlier one challenging more than $2 billion in federal cuts imposed by the Republican administration.

https://apnews.com/article/harvard-...lawsuit-94b65866c563e67a7a7a3c79e90144d6


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
You are correct that neither party has done anything to help reduce the budget deficit. One difference is right now the party in power tells the people it cares while ballooning the budget deficit even further.

The last administration that seemed to care anything about the budget was Bill Clinton.

The guy was and is a complete sleazebag, but looking at all things objectively, Clinton was a Democrat by party, but also the most fiscally conservative president in my lifetime (Reagan through 47).


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Yeah, I liked him as a president but was ashamed he represented my country as a man. But then I also have to consider that it's not the democrats who claimed to be the moral majority or stand waving the flag preaching about family values while electing a man like trump.


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He just approved relief for Mississippi hours ago. 18 states still waiting.


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Federal judge strikes down Trump executive order targeting law firm WilmerHale, calling it "unconstitutional"

A federal judge in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday struck down President Trump's executive order targeting D.C.-based law firm WilmerHale, declaring the order "unconstitutional" and permanently blocking the administration from enforcing it.

U.S. District Judge Richard Leon issued his opinion Tuesday afternoon, blocking the president's efforts to restrict Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale and Dorr LLP as a part of the Trump administration's crusade against large law firms that have provoked the ire of the president and his allies.

"For the reasons set forth below, I have concluded that this order must be struck down in its entirety as unconstitutional," Leon wrote in the beginning of his order. "Indeed, to rule otherwise would be unfaithful to the judgment and vision of the Founding Fathers!"

WilmerHale is the law firm where Robert Mueller worked both before and after he was special counsel.

Mr. Trump's executive order urges agencies to take steps to suspend the security clearances of WilmerHale employees, terminate contracts with the law firm and limit federal employees from engaging with WilmerHale employees, among other things. WilmerHale sued the administration, arguing the president's executive order violates the First, Fifth and Sixth Amendments, as well as the Constitution's separation of powers clause.

Leon had firm words for the administration, including when he addressed the firm's First Amendment concerns. "If you take on causes disfavored by President Trump, you will be punished!" Leon wrote. "Other firms facing similar executive orders have capitulated to President Trump."

The executive orders the president has signed have targeted law firms including Perkins Coie, Paul Weiss, and Jenner & Block. So far, the firms have been winning their cases against the administration in court.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-judge-strikes-down-trump-executive-order-wilmerhale/

That pesky old constitution.


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Trump's war on Harvard continues.



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Trump temporarily backs down on Harvard student ban as judge sides with college

A Boston federal judge said at a hearing May 29 that she planned to issue a preliminary injunction that blocks the Department of Homeland Security from revoking Harvard's ability to enroll foreign exchange students.

The comments from U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs came as the Trump administration attempted to walk back its May 22 directive that immediately revoked Harvard's participation in a federal exchange student program.

The administration sent a letter directly to Harvard on May 22 letter revoking its ability to enroll international students on the grounds that it was "perpetuating an unsafe campus environment that is hostile to Jewish students, promotes pro-Hamas sympathies, and employs racist ‘diversity, equity, and inclusion’ policies."

Harvard sued the Trump administration in Massachusetts, and U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs temporarily blocked the administration from revoking the university's participation in the program. Harvard then moved forward seeking longer-term injunction on the Trump administration's actions as the lawsuit moves forward.

The Trump administration filed a document in court shortly before the May 29 hearing, saying it would provide Harvard with a 30-day process to contest its removal from the international student program.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-extends-block-trump-bid-160201279.html

Just a footnote......

Barack Obama graduated from Harvard Law School in 1991 with a Juris Doctor degree, achieving the distinction of magna [censored] laude. He subsequently took a position as a Visiting Law and Government Fellow at the University of Chicago Law School and was elected the first black president of the Harvard Law Review in the spring of 1990.

I'm not saying this has anything to do with his war on Harvard but he has fixated on things even more trivial than this.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
magna [censored] laude.

ha ha took me a minute to figure this out.


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