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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott says he will deploy National Guard troops amid ICE protests

As protests continue in Los Angeles and around the U.S. over immigration enforcement raids, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said he will deploy the state's National Guard as needed "to ensure peace & order."

On Tuesday night, Abbott posted on his X account that he's planning to send the Texas National Guard to different parts of the state ahead of planned protests.

"Texas National Guard will be deployed to locations across the state to ensure peace & order. Peaceful protest is legal. Harming a person or property is illegal & will lead to arrest. @TexasGuard will use every tool & strategy to help law enforcement maintain order," Abbott wrote.

The governor's press secretary didn't specifically confirm that San Antonio is where Abbott is sending troops, but that they will be prepared as needed.
Possible immigration protests in San Antonio

San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg and San Antonio Police Chief William McManus both said the city has a plan to support peaceful demonstrations while ensuring public safety, alluding to a planned protest Wednesday night at the Alamo and another planned for Saturday.

"The State of Texas stands ready to deploy all necessary personnel and resources to uphold law and order across our state," Abbott's press secretary said. "Texas National Guard soldiers are on standby in areas where mass demonstrations are planned in case they are needed. Peaceful protests are part of the fabric of our nation, but Texas will not tolerate the lawlessness we have seen in Los Angeles. Anyone engaging in acts of violence or damaging property will be swiftly held accountable to the full extent of the law."

McManus said he has not been in contact with the Texas National Guard and that the police department is preparing for the worst and hoping for the best when it comes to the protests.

"The San Antonio Police Department fully supports the right to peacefully demonstrate," McManus said Wednesday morning.

12 arrested in Austin demonstrations against ICE raids

On Monday, hundreds of demonstrators took to Austin in protest of the ICE raids. This left four Austin police officers injured and a total of 12 people arrested.

Dallas immigration protest draws hundreds

In Dallas, a protest that drew hundreds to a rally on a city bridge lasted for several hours Monday night before police declared it an "unlawful assembly" and warned people to leave or face possible arrest.

"[The Texas National Guard] will use every tool & strategy to help law enforcement maintain order," Abbott said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/gov-greg-abbott-deploys-texas-national-guard-troops-protests/

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/03/climate/trump-california-water-dams-reservoirs

Is this what you're talking about?

j/c... because I'm behind- and reacting in Real time, as I scroll:


It would seem that this issue was addressed, back in 1986.
-by a guy named Ronald Reagan... who said, after the bipartisan bill was passed:


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Let's not be coy about this: Steven Miller's view of America's immigrant situation is diametrically opposed to Ronald Reagan's... and Steven Miller is a daily whisperer into the empty echo chamber that occupies the skull of the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Donald Trump isn't the problem- he's the FACE of the problem behind the problem.

Lifelong followers of the OG GOP must ask themselves:
"Is this the kind of thing I signed onto, when I voted for "Morning In America?"
Is this the thing I signed onto, when I voted for "Make America Great Again?"

And if they need a moment to start typing, before responding- I'll understand.
Today's GOP has become something that Ronald Reagan couldn't have possibly envisioned.

Can you imagine a 3-way split-screen conversation between Ronald Reagan, Steven Miller... and any televised
moderator (on any 24/7 cable news channel)?


That's how far we have fallen, as a society.

https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bjso.12665
Attitude networks as intergroup realities: Using network-modelling to research attitude-identity relationships in polarized political contexts

It also happened after the escalatory acts of the Executive, to be clear.

Good post, Clem, as usual.

Being someone who was former GOP, and watching what has happened to my own family, I think the GOP has taken the "boil a frog" approach to their constituents.

There has been a periodic shift, starting with Reagan, honestly, then going through Newt, McConnell, the TEA Party and then MAGA where they have become unmoored from what traditionally conservative means. It officially flipped in 2016.

10th Amendment used to be at the core of conservativism, and now it only matters if you agree with the Executive.

Limited, balanced Government no longer exists as an ideal. Look how many EO's and emergency declarations have been passed, and even more substantially, look at the basis on which they were passed. Measure the amount of EO's and emergency declarations vs the number of laws passed by Congress during that time. I can't remember the exact figures, but the difference is staggering.

Balanced budget? Reduced spending? Ha!

The problem is they are good marketers and good galvanizers...well, at least one person is.

The Democrats too are caught up in an unmooring as well, which is probably why they are where they are at as well. They do not resemble the FDR and/or Kennedy style that made them prominent. They also REALLY need to clear the canopy so to speak.

Maybe slightly off topic - I don't know. . . . but I guess to tie my post into your post: Yes, I think many of the Trump supporters want this version of Murica - I bet many original 'old school' Republicans and Libertarians do not want this version of things but are scared that a "communist Democratic Party" is worse. They are in fear (needlessly) of more progressive liberal politics because they are influenced every day by social media feeds and organizations like Faux and podcasters like Bannon and Hannity etc.

However - my thoughts first went to how and why. And this is where you have to acknowledge Trump's genius or talent.

1. There are a lot - enough to decide an election - of dienfranchised voters who feel politicians do nothing for them.

2. Trump is - if nothing else - a populist. He doesn't really stand for anythnig - his opinions blowing in the wind accorinding to popular sentiment. He's morally reprehensible - something that is literally IMPOSSIBLE to argue (sleeping with/paying off poernstars while his wife was pregnant - how many wives? - liable for sexual abuse in court - bragging of grabbing girl's vaginas) .... but he can talk a good game and as a populist he paints a simple picture that he has identified the root of most of the people's problems (immigrants - and really it matters not if they are here legally or not) .... and he wages a non-stop verbal attack on many issues that those disenfranchised voters believe are important. Facts are not important. Emotion, rhetoric and bombastic promises are the order of the day.

3. Then you have this incredible ability to "flood the zone with excremement" and cause so much chaos that those disenfranchised voters never actually catch up to the truth or facts or reality of - say - tariffs, the economy, grigting and making millions by taking advantage of his position of power, the lack of actuall results from DOGE ... hell - even "HUGE" campaign issues like the Epstein files which Trum,p used to insinuate that all manner of Democrats were going to be exposed .... vanishes in the smoke while he moves on to some other crazy and outrageous claims or topic. (51st state or seizing Greenland).

Just my 2 cents on why/how we got here. Many of the things Trump and other MAGA sycophants talk about might be real. But they don't have real solutions unless - like immigration - trampling on the rule of law, not obeying court orders, denying individuals due process, deporting legal immigrants is all worth the erosion of liberties in order (in their eyes) to tackle "THE" problem.... meanwhile the deficit and debt soars and will continur to do so.

And water is wet.

Guy on X makes stupid claim. Details at 11:00.....

meanwhile in Florida...

FAFO

Way to much FASCIST BS on this board. And if certain posters want to sneak around the corner taking pot shots at me for my beliefs, oh well. But the coward right will be held accountable. Mark my words. Trumps insane attempt to make us a NAZI country will fail miserably either sooner OR later. What happened today with US SENATOR Padilla is going to get Kristi Noem in deep crap, one way or the other.

And if any of y’all MAGA want a face to face debate, please pm me for directions. I’d love to entertain a few of you, even at the same time.

Noem should be tried at the Hague along with the rest of this admin and 1/3 of republican MAGA congress. NAZI fascist scum.

US senator forcefully removed from DHS event in LA, triggering Democratic outcry on Capitol Hill
Michael Williams, Manu Raju, Annie Grayer, Veronica Stracqualursi and Ted Barrett, CNN
Thu, June 12, 2025 at 6:25 PM EDT7 min read


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US Democratic Sen. Alex Padilla was forcefully removed from a press conference in Los Angeles Thursday and coerced to the ground after attempting to ask Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem a question.

Padilla, California’s first Latino elected to the US Senate, interrupted Noem as she was giving remarks in the Los Angeles FBI headquarters on the administration’s response to the protests in that city against Noem’s agency and its immigration-enforcement efforts. The senator had been in the federal building for a separate briefing when he learned of the press conference.

Padilla was removed from the room, ordered to the ground by law enforcement and placed in handcuffs during the rapidly unfolding incident.

The incident comes amid a heightened atmosphere in Los Angeles, which has been roiled with protests against President Donald Trump’s federal immigration raids. While the senator was ultimately not arrested, his ejection from the room by law enforcement follows the arrests of other public officials, who the administration has accused of impeding its enforcement of immigration laws.

“I was there peacefully,” Padilla said in his first public remarks shortly following the incident. “At one point I had a question, and so I began to ask a question. I was almost immediately forcibly removed from the room. I was forced to the ground, and I was handcuffed. I was not arrested. I was not detained.”

He added: “If this is how this administration responds to a senator with a question, if this is how the Department of Homeland Security responds to a senator with a question, you can only imagine, what they’re doing to farm workers, to cooks, to day laborers out in the Los Angeles community and throughout California and throughout the country.”

Noem said the US Secret Service “thought he was an attacker and officers acted appropriately.”

“I wish that he would have reached out and identified himself and let us know who he was and that he wanted to talk. His approach was something that I don’t think was appropriate,” she said.

Video of the incident shows the senator identifying himself as officers grabbed him and pushed him toward a door.

The pair, Noem said, later met and had a “great conversation.” “Sat down, talked for 10, 15 minutes about operations in LA, some activities of the Department of Homeland Security, and so I thought it was very productive,” she told reporters.

Following the incident, Padilla urged people protesting the Trump administration to do so peacefully. In the coming days, thousands of protests are planned across the country as Trump plans to host a military parade in Washington, DC, this weekend.

“There is a lot of concern, there is a lot of tension, there is a lot of anxiety, and a lot of people are beginning to make plans for what they or may or may not do come this Saturday,” the senator said.

He added: “I encourage everybody to please peacefully protest – just like I was calmly and peacefully listening in that press conference.”

No charges are currently planned against the senator, two law enforcement sources told CNN.

Video of the confrontation shows the senator disrupting Noem during her opening remarks at the event on DHS’ response to the protests, identifying himself as he was toward the door.

“I’m Sen. Alex Padilla,” he shouted as he was led out of the room. “I have questions for the secretary.”

The senator appeared to take a couple of steps forward as he was being forced back. Noem remained at her podium and attempted to speak over the senator.

“Because the fact of the matter is, a half a dozen violent criminals that you’re rotating onto your—,” Padilla said as he was pushed out a set of double doors.

He shouted, “hands off!” as Noem continued her remarks, and he did not finish his question.

Video taken by Padilla’s aides outside the room showed officers ordering him to his knees and demanding he put his hands behind his back. Uniformed FBI police officers, who provide security for bureau facilities, placed him in handcuffs as he lay on the ground.

Asked about the incident later during the press conference, Noem responded: “I don’t even know the senator.”

“He did not request a meeting with me or to speak with me. So when I leave here, I’ll have a conversation with him and visit and find out, really, what his concerns were.”

The pair spoke privately after the press conference.

Elected officials, including several of Padilla’s colleagues in Congress, immediately denounced the way he was treated and described it as a brutish overreaction.

Lawmakers condemn incident

In Washington, California Democrats and Democratic leaders swiftly condemned the “manhandling” of the senator and demanded investigations into the incident.

Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said he was “sickened” by the treatment of Padilla and called for “immediate answers to what the hell went on.” While his counterpart in the House, Hakeem Jeffries, vowed to hold the officers who forcibly removed Padilla from the press conference accountable.

“The assault on Senator Padilla today was an assault on freedom of speech in our country. It’s a federal offense to attack a member of Congress. But that’s not what it’s about, it shouldn’t be anybody in our country to be treated this way,” said Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California, the former Democratic House speaker.

Fellow California Democratic Sen. Adam Schiff said he was “disgusted,” called on Noem to resign and said there should be an investigation of the conduct of the officers involved.

“He has every right to ask questions, indeed, that’s his responsibility and to be treated the way he was to be essentially bought to the ground and shackled after identifying himself is a disgraceful action,” Schiff told reporters on Capitol Hill Thursday afternoon.

The Congressional Hispanic Caucus also demanded a full investigation into the incident.

While a large group of House Democrats marched from the House side of the Capitol to Majority Leader John Thune’s office to pressure Republicans to respond, the GOP leader provided a more muted response.

Thune said he is trying to investigate the facts surrounding the incident to determine next steps. He has spoken directly with Padilla, he said, as well as has tried to reach Noem and brought in the Senate sergeant-at-arms, the top law enforcement official in the Senate.

“We want to get the full scope of what happened and do what we would do on any incident like this involving a senator, which is to try to gather all the relevant information,” Thune said.

House Speaker Mike Johnson, for his part, sharply criticized Padilla.

“I think the senator’s actions, my view is it was wildly inappropriate. You don’t charge a sitting Cabinet secretary, and everybody can draw their own conclusions,” Johnson told reporters as a group of hecklers behind him audibly countered: “That’s a lie.”

Johnson appeared to try to keep his composure as he ignored the heckles.

“A sitting member of Congress should not act like that. It is beneath a member of Congress. It is beneath a US senator. They’re supposed to lead by example, and that is not a good example. You have to turn the temperature down in this country and not escalate it. The Democrat Party is on the wrong side. They were defending lawbreakers, and now they’re acting like lawbreakers themselves,” the speaker went on to say.

Still, two Senate Republicans did express concern.

“I think it’s very disturbing,” Sen. Susan Collins of Maine said of the video showing Padilla being removed, though she added: “I don’t know what preceded it.”

Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski, meanwhile, told reporters she had also seen the video, saying: “It’s horrible. It is shocking at every level.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-senator-forcefully-removed-dhs-203259847.html

The moment Sen Padilla was removed from the room, that should have been the end of the story. Close the doors, don't let him come back in. He was no threat to Noem in any way.
Wrestling him to the ground in the hallway and placing him in handcuffs was purely an effort to humiliate another human being.

Clem, Ronald Reagan also said that immigration deal he made with the dems was the biggest mistake of his administration, even bigger than Iran Contra.

We also have to recognize the difference between today and 40 years ago . Then illegal immigration was a problem. Today thanks to Biden and you lefty dems it is a disaster. Maybe you all should have voted for a candidate who wouldn’t turn our border into a wide open super highway to America. 10-15 million illegals later we are now trying to reassert our sovereignty.

As I listen to these Mexican flag waving rioters/peaceful protestors. It seems like what they want is for ICE to have not come into their community and arrest these criminals. Have you seen a list of the crimes committed by some of the illegals we arrested. Horrible crimes but if these protesters had their way these thugs would still be living amongst them.

ICE is doing their job and need to keep doing it.

Just another fabrication - a lie told enough times that those in their echo chamber believe it. Same lie as Republicans are the party of small government and law and order. Same lie as the Clintons run a peodephile ring and have people assasinated. Same lie as $50m for Hamas condoms. . . . there is a long list of lies you guys spew endlessly. I'll keep it breif and leave it at that.... OR - by all means provide some verifiable evidence that Reagan said such a thing (pssst - the answer is you can't, it is an urban myth much like those other lies above. But I know this won't stop you repeating and regurgitating such falsehoods).

He did not announce himself! He stormed in and started shouting. That kind of behavior should not be tolerated, and it should be above a Senator. Had he announced himself right away this would have never happened. It was a public stunt by the Senator. No one really knew who he was before yesterday.

He is 100% correct here.

This guy knew exactly what would happen the way he approached Noem and he absolutely wanted oit for the headlines. This is just another example of a person in a leaderless, low approval party trying to climb the party ladder because every other iteration so far this year has proven their incompetence.

I agree. There is a certain amount of decorum one would expect from a sitting Senator. Barging to the front, pointing and screaming is going to put security in to action at which point they aren't listening to what is being said, the only objective is to subdue the person and get them the heck out of the room.

I am glad the senator wasn't arrested, but he needs to learn how to act. Screaming, pushing and shoving doesn't cut it. He needs to offer apology.

Did you see her quote? "We are not going away. We are staying here to liberate this city from the socialist and burdensome leadership that this Governor Newsom and this mayor placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into this city,'' Noem said, echoing President Trump’s criticism against California Governor Gavin Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/...r-making-ice-raids-in-la-harder/3722800/

That's pretty dystopian...

I'm pretty sure they knew who he was, but I don't disagree with you regarding the way he handled it. It was a spectacle...but so was the way in which they responded. Marry that up with Noem's quote and it doesn't look good.

Show us where he said that.


Is that why trump stated he would protect the illegal workers that work for framers and "the hotel and leisure" business? You know, the business he is in?

Illegal farm and hotel workers good and all the rest of them are bad? Can you explain how that works?

I get it. It's hard to keep trying to defend a mans policies that keep changing all the time.

I mean first it was ALL illegal immigrants. Next it was "we're going to focus on the criminal immigrants." Then it went to invading businesses and chasing farm workers across fields. Now it's changed to "We're going after all of them but those who work on farms, hotel and the leisure business."

That's a lot to try and keep up with so I get it. If you're going to support this guy you really need to keep your head on a swivel. It seems he has trouble figuring out what he's doing and things can change from day to day.

"I agree. There is a certain amount of decorum one would expect from a sitting Senator. Barging to the front, pointing and screaming is going to put security in to action at which point they aren't listening to what is being said, the only objective is to subdue the person and get them the heck out of the room.

I am glad the senator wasn't arrested, but he needs to learn how to act. Screaming, pushing and shoving doesn't cut it. He needs to offer apology."

That is not what happened. Geez, can't you guys get your fricking stories straight. You just make [censored] up and think it's going to fly.

Just in case anyone missed it a Florida sheriff said if anyone throws a brick at a Florida demonstration they will be killed. This isnt California. https://www.cnn.com/?refresh=1 I can't get the video link to work but it's there. And the governor said

It appears he did say who he was. This plus Noem’s comment looks bad.

This isn’t the full video. He does identify himself but not until after he barged in. There is also reports he wasn’t wearing his security pin. He did say he was wearing a senate polo. The thing is he had a jacket on so that might have not been visible. The fact is they were in an FBI facility and a FBI agent interceded with a secret service agent. Once he resists I’m pretty sure it is standard procedure to do what they did. This had nothing to do with the Trump Administration, it would have happened in any administration since it is was done by non partisan entities.

I need to clarify something. The video I referred to was from another angle. In this video you can hear some scuffling before he identifies himself.

Thanks P.

He did identify himself, and Noem absolutely knows who Alex Padilla is, as she appeared before him and was questioned by him during the nomination hearing.

I still have to figure out the “intent of the government” nonsense about “Liberating the City” from the socialists. What does that mean?

See the quote above by doglover05. I am not making this nonsense up..

Seriously this is right out of 1984 doublespeak without an English translation.

Can we talk about a florida sheriff saying they are going to kill protestors if they show any form of violence, and no one is talking about it?

I saw that, just look upward towards the leadership of this country and you have your answer.

So much about civil service and protecting the public, our elected officials have the right to kill you.

Dystopia

Thank you for the time/effort you spent to respond to my post.

I only wish that you'd taken the same time to actually talk about an American citizen being planted, face-down on the floor of a hallway, and placed in handcuffs.
For opening his mouth.

In a public place.

Let's talk about anything other that that...

You know - the "Right" - or the Trumptards or whatever you want to call them - have completely lost the argument when (virtually) the ONLY thing they post as "gotcha" moments are random people who get labeled as "this is the entire Democratic party" in a nutshell ... and now a Sport presenter who made a name for himself by having loud, contrarian, 'shock jock' takes on any manner of emotive sport subjects.

It's really all I have seen here for a long time - other than the crickets chirping away in the silence as Trump does his Trump and project 2025 things.

"We are not going away. We are staying here to liberate this city from the socialist and burdensome leadership that this Governor Newsom and this mayor placed on this country and what they have tried to insert into this city,''


Sure .... nothing to see here. Just another normal day. Not authoratarian, not facism.

No wonder they don't want to talk about substance.

His comment was this. "If you throw a brick, a fire bomb or point a gun at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your family where to collect your remains, because we will kill you, graveyard dead. We're not going to play."

First, why would anyone throw objects at a peaceful protest? Maybe we should talk about that.

Secondly, the comment was more specific in that is said thrown at a deputy. I can't speak for you but in my world a law enforcement officer has every right to protect their being against deadly force.

I saw it and to me, of course if you throw a brick at a cop you run the risk of getting killed.. Geez.. But this guy was just beating his chest.

So a brick comes out of a crowed. Just shoot into the crowed?

just a couple items to clear this up.
Padilla has an office in that building

Padilla is the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee's Subcommittee on Immigration, Citizenship, and Border Safety.

He was already on that floor for a briefing with members of the Northern Command-which got delayed by the Noem press conference.

Since the briefing was being delayed-he told the National Guard member and FBI agent who were escorting him that was it ok if they all went to the Noem presser-

And from that I have a question-Why in the hell do we have a Natl Guard and FBI member escorting Dem Senators around a Federal building they have a office in? Is this for all members-for their protection.

And that's what him identifying himself should have stopped at that point.