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Trump is saying the they didn't move anything out. I don't believe him of course.


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Did Iran move its Uranium? Satellite imagery reveal trucks outside Fordow before US strike




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How would Iran know that Trump was going strike their nuke sites..?

Who in Trumps circle leaked the classified B-2 strike plan..?


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Originally Posted by mac
How would Iran know that Trump was going strike their nuke sites..?

Who in Trumps circle leaked the classified B-2 strike plan..?

Trump did give them a two week window. And they started moving it out immediately. Probably why trump decided to strike two days later. Too late.


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It does appear that we did inflict some pretty good damage.. But I'm having a hard time understanding how those photos were released. How did the media even get them?


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

Ignoring the subject matter for a moment... it's refreshing to see a politician think like this (what all presidents should be able to do vs the one currently in the seat and which letter he wears).

Say what you want about the topic, I appreciate anyone in govt basically acknowledge that this debate didn't just magically start with the current guy in office (every president has done this operation vs war declaration dance well before Bush 1).


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While that's certainly true this is what gave is both the Korean and Vietnam wars. All a president has to do is not call it a war and they can start a war. It's noting more than a technicality to circumvent congress. Presidents of both parties should never have that kind of power.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
It does appear that we did inflict some pretty good damage.. But I'm having a hard time understanding how those photos were released. How did the media even get them?

How do you know they inflicted any major substantial damage. Do you actually believe Trump’s admin and what they say on it all?


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

Ignoring the subject matter for a moment... it's refreshing to see a politician think like this (what all presidents should be able to do vs the one currently in the seat and which letter he wears).

Say what you want about the topic, I appreciate anyone in govt basically acknowledge that this debate didn't just magically start with the current guy in office (every president has done this operation vs war declaration dance well before Bush 1).

It’s amazing how much respect I now have for fetterman…. Trump 100% had the authority to do what he did… and I don’t think we should limit that authority…. Whether he should have done it or not I think you can debate…

I pray that we actually did set the program back years… and also pray that this cease fire/peace actually holds… I do not want American troops in a Middle East war….


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Originally Posted by jaybird
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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

Ignoring the subject matter for a moment... it's refreshing to see a politician think like this (what all presidents should be able to do vs the one currently in the seat and which letter he wears).

Say what you want about the topic, I appreciate anyone in govt basically acknowledge that this debate didn't just magically start with the current guy in office (every president has done this operation vs war declaration dance well before Bush 1).

It’s amazing how much respect I now have for fetterman…. Trump 100% had the authority to do what he did… and I don’t think we should limit that authority…. Whether he should have done it or not I think you can debate…

I pray that we actually did set the program back years… and also pray that this cease fire/peace actually holds… I do not want American troops in a Middle East war….

Not going to be holding my breath on any of that.


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Originally Posted by mac
How would Iran know that Trump was going strike their nuke sites..?

Who in Trumps circle leaked the classified B-2 strike plan..?

I don't know. If I had to guess it was probably some career DOD staffer with high enough clearance to have had a need to know. If it happened at all.

In the pic I see a lot of dump trucks. Not exactly the type of rigs one would use to transport at lot of sensitive material.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
While that's certainly true this is what gave is both the Korean and Vietnam wars. All a president has to do is not call it a war and they can start a war. It's noting more than a technicality to circumvent congress. Presidents of both parties should never have that kind of power.

I disagree. It needs to be limited but a President has to be able to act to current threats without waiting for congress to dork around for 6 weeks debating things.

"Mr. President, we have confirmed launches of ICBM's at 8 US cities. How do you want us to respond?"

Extreme example, but germane none the less. I am glad President Obama didn't have to call congress to get approval to take down Bin Laden.


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Your scenario is already covered and the president can act.

What isn't covered and you shouldn't be covered. It is exactly the sort of scenario that Pit laid out and what we have seen in Iran. There is no imminent threat to the US. President should not have unilateral and unfettered ability to start a war when the US is not being attacked.

If nothing else Trump shows us We need strong checks and balances more than ever.

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We just disagree. I don't think we should be forced in to always being in a reactionary position.

It would be hard to win a football game if all you could do is play defense.


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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
Originally Posted by Damanshot
It does appear that we did inflict some pretty good damage.. But I'm having a hard time understanding how those photos were released. How did the media even get them?

How do you know they inflicted any major substantial damage. Do you actually believe Trump’s admin and what they say on it all?

I was just looking at the pictures.. But that's why I questioned how any news source got those photos. I guess I'm saying I don't know if this just another lie from the Trump Admin. It's not like they are above lying...


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