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The secret recordings that could blow open Trump’s true relationship with Epstein
Nearly ‘100 hours of tapes’ are said to reveal a tangled history of privilege, conflict and fractured loyalty between the pair

Ed Cumming
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Donald Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, #metoo, Conspiracy theories, Prince Andrew, Michael Wolff
22 July 2025 9:28pm BST

“I have been beating this horse for a very, very long time,” says Michael Wolff.

“And suddenly now everybody’s [saying] ‘oh yeah, Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein’. Why people did not see that this was a story a long time ago is just amazing to me. It is confusing that it could have been out there in plain view, and ignored for so long.”

Five years before Epstein’s death in 2019, Wolff, best known as the author of four bestselling books on Trump’s presidency, began recording hundreds of interviews with the financier, and attended exclusive events at his flat in New York. For years, no publisher or broadcaster has dared to touch the explosive cache – which he claims runs close to 100 hours of tape, split over some 30 sessions together.

Michael Wolff
Author and Trump expert Michael Wolff says he has collected around 100 hours of tape that reveal Trump and Epstein’s relationship Credit: Sky UK
Instead, Wolff has released only snippets of the recordings to date. But now, thanks to the mounting speculation about the extent of Trump’s relationship with Epstein, the tapes have become some of the most in-demand material in America.


Epstein died by suicide while awaiting trial for sex trafficking, accused of procuring prostitutes – some underage – for his friends and acquaintances. Trump’s Maga base have long clamoured for the release of classified documents about his case, believing they could incriminate establishment figures, in particular Bill Clinton (who has denied all knowledge of Epstein’s crimes).

Having been friends with Epstein for years before a bitter falling out in 2004, Trump took full advantage of the situation, repeatedly suggesting that there was explosive material possessed by authorities which would come to light if he was re-elected, and hinting Epstein might not have taken his own life.

Yet as Trump has backed away from his promises of disclosure on Epstein, Maga commentators have started to turn on him. The disgraced former general Mike Flynn, a sometime ally who has become a political commentator, posted on social media reminding the president – in capital letters – that the “EPSTEIN AFFAIR IS NOT GOING AWAY”.


Having stoked Epstein conspiracy theories for years, including indulging the idea he kept a so-called “client list” used to blackmail co-conspirators, Trump and his team may now find that their strategy comes back to bite them.


“[Threatening disclosure] was a typical Trump blow-hard kind of thing,” Wolff says. According to his reportage, Trump and Epstein were at one time even closer than had been previously thought.

Trump and Epstein, wealthy and connected men of similar ages, mixed in similar fields and socialised together frequently. They were on several occasions spotted at the same parties.

In 2002, Trump called Epstein a “terrific guy” in a New York Magazine profile, adding that “he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” In audio files previously released on Wolff’s Fire and Fury podcast, Epstein said he had been Trump’s “best friend” for 10 years; Wolff has also said Trump’s nickname for Epstein was “Jeffy”.

“From 1988/89 through to 2004 Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump were the best friends,” Wolff, 71, says over the phone from his home in the Hamptons.

“These were Eighties guys, from a moment when having money forgave anything and everybody idolised anybody who had money. Having money gave you this extraordinary entitlement. This was the last blush of what it is to be a playboy. They had the money, the planes, the total disregard of middle class rules. [...]



“They had the same interests. They did the same things, pursued the same activities, pursued very often the same women. Someone called me the other day and said ‘you don’t mean Trump was interested in little girls?’ I said ‘no … but they [Trump and Epstein] were both obsessed with models.

“They started modelling agencies, invested in modelling agencies. Trump has his beauty pageants, Epstein had the Victoria’s Secret stuff [Epstein was an advisor to Les Wexner, the Victoria’s Secret boss].”


‘They had the same interests. They did the same things’, says Michael Wolff Credit: Davidoff Studios Photography/Archive Photos
Wolff says the friendship centred on Palm Beach, Florida, where Epstein and Trump were neighbours. “Epstein had this set of a dozen Polaroids of Trump around Epstein’s swimming pool,” Wolff recalls. He alleges the images were held in Epstein’s safe, which the FBI seized when they raided his homes in New York and Palm Beach in July 2019.

“I remember three of them vividly. Two of the pictures had topless girls sitting in Trump’s lap, and one where Trump has a stain on the front of his [trousers] and three or five topless girls are pointing at it and laughing. These guys defined each other. Epstein is the best window through which to understand Trump.”


Last week, a report in The Wall Street Journal alleged that Trump sent Epstein a card on his 50th birthday in 2003, with a drawing of a naked woman and an imagined cryptic conversation between the two men which was said to include the phrase “may every day be another wonderful secret”. Trump immediately denied writing the note, claiming: “it’s not my language … it’s not my words.” He added he did not “draw pictures of women”.


In the wake of the story, the White House has banned the WSJ from covering an upcoming trip to Scotland due to the “fake and defamatory conduct” and Trump has moved to sue the Rupert Murdoch-owned publication for $10bn. The president has spoken of being subjected to a “witch hunt”.

On Monday, White House communications director Stephen Cheung said Trump once kicked Epstein out of his club for being a “creep” and called allegations about him “recycled, old fake news”.

After decades of friendship, in 2004, Trump and Epstein had what Wolff describes as an “acrimonious” falling out over a real estate deal, so were not close during Epstein’s alleged crimes at the so-called “Epstein Island”, Little St James in the US Virgin Islands. It was after that that criminal accusations first started to gather around Epstein, culminating in a 13-month prison sentence for prostitution in 2008.



In 2014, Epstein approached Wolff, a highly respected New York journalist who had been the media columnist of Vanity Fair, with a view to being written about. Wolff had just begun writing about Trump, work which would form the basis of Fire and Fury, the first of his accounts of the president’s time in the White House.


“Epstein said ‘you can ask me anything, I have nothing to hide, and you judge for yourself whether I’m honest,’” Wolff recalls. After a couple of “pretty damn interesting” conversations, Wolff began attending the events Epstein held at his mansion on the Upper East side, thought to be one of the largest private residences in New York.

“It was kind of extraordinary,” Wolff says. “The people there were amazing. From Bill Gates to Ehud Barak [former Israeli prime minister] to Larry Summers, just one person after another.”

Prince Andrew?

“Yeah,” Wolff says. “Epstein conducted these things at his dining table. People came in from morning until night. There were very few women, it had a men’s club feel to it. But it was kind of irresistible, frankly, and I confess to having a good time. The subjects were foreign policy, the economy. No girls, that was never a topic.

From left to right: Melania Trump, Prince Andrew, Gwendolyn Beck and Jeffrey Epstein at a party at the Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach in 2000
From left to right: Melania Trump, Prince Andrew, Gwendolyn Beck and Jeffrey Epstein at a party at the Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach in 2000 Credit: Davidoff Studios Photography/Archive Photos
“Then in 2015, when Trump started to run [for the presidency], Epstein started to talk about his relationship with Trump, which was eye-opening. I was starting to write about Trump, so it was very valuable. In 2017, [Epstein] became friends with Steve Bannon and they bonded over their mutual obsession slash hatred of Trump. They talked about Trump all the time.”

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As the authorities closed in on Epstein prior to his arrest in 2019, he remained in touch with Wolff. In a piece from 2020, The Last Days of Jeffrey Epstein, Wolff details the acrimony between Epstein and Trump. Epstein refers to Trump as a “moron,” and makes derogatory claims about his leadership style. “He lets someone else be in charge, until other people realise that someone else is in charge. When that happens, you’re no longer in charge.”

After the fall-out over their property deal, Wolff says Epstein came to believe it was Trump – who had close relations to the Florida law enforcement – who turned Epstein in before he was jailed for soliciting prostitutes in 2008.

In the same piece, Wolff quotes Bannon telling Epstein he was the “only person” he was afraid of during Trump’s first presidential campaign, implying he believed the financier knew dangerous secrets about Trump.

“As well you should have been,” Epstein is reported to have replied. It was during Trump’s presidency that Epstein was arrested.

Wolff’s own relationship with Epstein had a macabre denouement.

“The last message he wrote appears to be to me,” Wolff says. “He died on Saturday morning and I got the message on Friday evening. I had written a note through his lawyers asking how he was doing. The message was ‘pretty crazy. But still hanging around – no pun intended’. Then he died with the bedsheet around his neck a few hours later. It was very weird.”

The circumstances of Epstein’s death have become a lightning rod for conspiracy theorists. He was found in the early hours of Aug 10 2019, hanging off the side of his cell’s bed. The official ruling was a suicide by hanging, but Epstein’s lawyers challenged that account. Two guards who were meant to check on him had fallen asleep, and two CCTV cameras in front of his cell malfunctioned at the critical moment. Surveys have suggested that only 15 per cent of Americans believe Epstein died by suicide.

A protester outside Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse during the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell 2021
A protester outside Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse during the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell in 2021 Credit: BRYAN R. SMITH/AFP
When the US Department of Justice finally released a tape of events that evening two weeks ago, analysts found that nearly three minutes had been cut out.

“It seems implausible that he could have killed himself in the way they say he would have had to have killed himself,” Wolff says, “but equally implausible that he would have been murdered and all of the people, the FBI agents and assistant US attorneys would either know something or keep quiet about it. I don’t know.”

In the years since Epstein’s death, Wolff has tried to draw attention to what he claims was the true extent of his relationship with Trump. But he has not gained much traction.

“I’ve been trying to place this stuff for a long time.” Wolff says, describing how he has pitched larger treatments of his “endless amounts of recordings” countless times, only for the plug to be pulled at the last minute.

“It’s so compelling that everyone’s always interested, but executives decide it’s too complicated and controversial. Because as soon as you start to deal with Epstein as a person with multiple dimensions, instead of just this evil guy, it freaks everybody out.”


He says he thinks partly the press has not been willing to further confront Trump’s friendship with Epstein.

“There has been, among the respectable press, a view that this subject is too icky,” Wolff says. “Good people don’t discuss this. He’s the president of the United States, how can you link him to the president of the United States without evidence… It has something to do with the fact that there is not the language in the post MeToo world to discuss sex. You have to talk about sex, you have to make distinctions between girls and women, talk about the complicated idea of consent of victims. It’s very hard in the recent climate.

“People don’t know how to approach this,” he adds. “They think it’s going to be too hot to handle, the Right wing is going to yell at us and the Left wing is going to yell at us and the women are going to yell at us and Trump is going to yell at us. We’re not going to be a hero to anyone if we tell this story.”

To judge by the renewed interest in Wolff’s 100 hours of tapes, this time, the weight of public pressure may prove decisive.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/22/secret-recordings-trump-epstein-relationship/

FBI personnel were told to flag Epstein files mentioning Trump, Senate Democrat says

Sen. Dick Durbin questioned DOJ leadership over their handling of the Epstein files, including reports that FBI personnel were told to "flag" any mentions of Trump.

WASHINGTON — Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., pressed Justice Department leadership about their handling of files related to the federal investigation into the late Jeffrey Epstein, including reports that FBI personnel were instructed to "flag" any records that mentioned President Donald Trump.

In a series of oversight letters written to Attorney General Pam Bondi, FBI Director Kash Patel and FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino, Durbin questioned Bondi about "contradictions" in her public statements on the case, Patel about reports that he was "pressured" by Bondi to place 1,000 personnel on 24-hour shifts to mine roughly 100,000 Epstein-related records and Bongino about reported disputes among Trump officials about “the lack of transparency” in their handling of the high-profile case.

In the letters sent Friday, Durbin, the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, asked each of the Trump administration officials to respond to information received by his office that suggested FBI personnel were specifically instructed to "flag" any records mentioning Trump.

"My office was told that these personnel were instructed to 'flag' any records in which President Trump was mentioned. ... Why were personnel told to flag records in which President Trump was mentioned," Durbin asked Bondi, Patel and Bongino in separate letters. "What happened to the records mentioning President Trump once they were flagged?"

A Durbin aide told NBC News that the senator's office received that information from a protected FBI whistleblower disclosure.

The FBI declined NBC News' request for comment on Durbin's letters.

The letters mark the latest attempt by Democrats to keep attention on Epstein more than a week after the Justice Department released a memo outlining a decision to cease additional disclosures related to the investigation. The memo roiled Trump's MAGA base, creating a rare rift among Trump and the far-right base that thrusted him into power — a rift that Democratic lawmakers have aimed to widen.

In the aftermath of the Justice Department memo, Bondi has faced blowback in part because of previous public statements she made pointing to the existence of thousands of pages of additional documents related to Epstein, including a purported "client list."

Durbin, like many of Trump's supporters over the past week, asked the attorney general to reconcile her earlier public declarations with her department's finding that "no further disclosures" are warranted in the case and that a review of records "revealed no incriminating client list."

"Why did you publicly claim on February 21 that the client list was 'sitting on my desk right now to review?'" Durbin asked Bondi. "If it was not a client list, what was 'sitting on your desk' at that moment?"

Bongino and Patel have also faced backlash online. Both of them previously promoted conspiracy theories that suggested the Epstein case was part of a government cover-up to protect powerful political players involved in a child abuse ring.

Patel, in the only post he's made to his personal social media account since the Justice Department memo was released, said "the conspiracy theories just aren't true" and "never have been." Durbin, aiming to call attention to Patel's past suggestions of a cover-up, asked the FBI director to detail the conspiracy theories he was referring to in his post.

"What are the conspiracy theories you are referring to in your July 12 tweet that 'were never true?' If there are more than one, please explain each in detail," the senator wrote to Patel.

NBC News previously reported that Bongino was "out of control furious," skipped a day of work and considered resigning from his post due to the Justice Department's handling of the Epstein files, a topic Durbin questioned the former political commentator about.

"What was the nature of the dispute between you and White House and DOJ officials after the release of the July 7 memorandum," Durbin asked Bongino. "Is this dispute between you and White House and DOJ officials the reason behind your July 11 absence from work?"

Durbin also questioned the Trump officials about reporting from The Wall Street Journal that alleged Trump wrote a letter to Epstein in 2003, accompanied by a drawing of a naked woman, that was included in a leather-bound birthday album gifted to Epstein for his 50th birthday, according to documents reviewed by the Journal.

Trump has denied that he wrote the letter and he filed a lawsuit against the newspaper for publishing the story. NBC News has not independently confirmed the Journal's reporting.

A spokesperson for Dow Jones, the newspaper’s publisher, said in a statement, “We have full confidence in the rigor and accuracy of our reporting, and will vigorously defend against any lawsuit.”

"Did personnel review any correspondence between President Trump and Mr. Epstein, including a letter in the reported 'leather-bound album' as part of this year's review [of Epstein records]?" Durbin asked.

Hours after the Journal's reporting, Trump on Thursday directed Bondi to "produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony" related to Epstein, "subject to Court approval." Bondi on Friday filed a motion requesting the unsealing of grand jury transcripts related to the Epstein case.

“Given the public interest in the investigative work conducted by the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation into Epstein, the Department of Justice moves the Court to unseal the underlying grand jury transcripts in United States v. Epstein, subject to appropriate redactions of victim-related and other personal identifying information,” the document said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...ioning-trump-dick-durbin-says-rcna219699

Justice Department Told Trump in May That His Name Is Among Many in the Epstein Files
Bondi also told president at the meeting that Justice decided to not release more Jeffrey Epstein documents because of the presence of child pornography and the need to protect victims



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When Justice Department officials reviewed what Attorney General Pam Bondi called a “truckload” of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein earlier this year, they discovered that Donald Trump’s name appeared multiple times, according to senior administration officials.

In May, Bondi and her deputy informed the president at a meeting in the White House that his name was in the Epstein files, the officials said. Many other high-profile figures were also named, Trump was told. Being mentioned in the records isn’t a sign of wrongdoing.

The officials said it was a routine briefing that covered a number of topics and that Trump’s appearance in the documents wasn’t the focus.

They told the president at the meeting that the files contained what officials felt was unverified hearsay about many people, including Trump, who had socialized with Epstein in the past, some of the officials said. One of the officials familiar with the documents said they contain hundreds of other names.

They also told Trump that senior Justice Department officials didn’t plan to release any more documents related to the investigation of the convicted sex offender because the material contained child pornography and victims’ personal information, the officials said. Trump said at the meeting he would defer to the Justice Department’s decision to not release any further files.

The meeting set the stage for the high-profile review to come to an end. Bondi had said in February that Epstein’s client list was “sitting on my desk right now to review.” Trump said last week in response to a journalist’s question that Bondi hadn’t told him that his name was in the files.

The administration didn’t publicly announce the decision until weeks later on July 7, when the Justice Department posted a memo on its website. The statement, which was unsigned, stated that a thorough review had turned up no list of Epstein’s clients, no evidence that would lead to an investigation of uncharged third parties and no additional documents that merited public disclosure. It said that much of the material would have been sealed in a trial to protect victims and to block the dissemination of child pornography.

Typically, the FBI doesn’t disclose materials that aren’t related to a charged offense.

“This is another fake news story, just like the previous story by The Wall Street Journal,” said White House communications director Steven Cheung.

Projection on the US Chamber of Commerce building demanding President Trump release Epstein files.
A message projected on the U.S. Chamber of Commerce building across from the White House on July 18. Photo: alex wroblewski/Agence France-Presse/Getty Images
In a statement to the Journal on Friday, Bondi and the deputy attorney general, Todd Blanche, said nothing in the files warranted further investigation or prosecution. “As part of our routine briefing, we made the President aware of the findings,” they said.

On Tuesday, Blanche said on X that the Justice Department was seeking to arrange a meeting with Ghislaine Maxwell in the coming days to discuss any possible information about anyone who has committed crimes with Epstein.

Maxwell was found guilty in 2021 of helping Epstein’s sex trafficking and sentenced to 20 years in prison. She has been in custody since she was charged in 2020 and didn’t testify at her trial.



One of Maxwell’s lawyers, David Oscar Markus, confirmed the discussions and said, “We are grateful to President Trump for his commitment to uncovering the truth in this case.” Maxwell has been seeking to have her conviction overturned, contending she didn’t receive a fair trial.

Both Epstein and Trump said years ago that they had a falling out. Trump has said their friendship ended before the financier was indicted for soliciting prostitution in 2006. Epstein later pleaded guilty to procuring a minor for prostitution in 2008, served time in a Florida jail and registered as a sex offender. When Epstein was arrested again in 2019, Trump said he hadn’t talked to Epstein for about 15 years. Epstein died in jail that year while awaiting trial on federal charges of sex trafficking.

FBI Director Kash Patel has privately told other government officials that Trump’s name appeared in the files, according to people close to the administration.

Patel declined to answer an inquiry from the Journal about the Epstein case, but said in a statement that the memo on the Justice Department website explaining why the department wouldn’t release more Epstein documents was “consistent with the thorough review conducted by the FBI and DOJ.”

Details of Bondi’s meeting with Trump haven’t been previously reported. Trump’s advisers had for months, including during the presidential campaign, said they would release the files, and Trump, while at times equivocal, indicated he would support the release.



Trump’s supporters, including some now serving in senior roles in the administration, claimed that the documents would expose global elites and powerful Democrats who spent time with the disgraced financier.

The decision to not release the files has triggered the most serious backlash from Trump’s political base since he launched his bid for the White House a decade ago, with a vocal group of the president’s allies seeing the move as a massive betrayal.

Trump has told administration officials in recent weeks that he wanted the growing public attention on Epstein to go away. On Tuesday, House Speaker Mike Johnson cut short the legislative session as some lawmakers demanded votes on more releases related to the Epstein files.

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Last Thursday, The Wall Street Journal published an article about a letter bearing Trump’s name that was included in a 2003 birthday album for Epstein, which was assembled before the financier was first charged. On Friday, Trump sued the Journal’s reporters, Journal publisher Dow Jones, parent company News Corp and executives, calling the letter “nonexistent” and alleging the article defamed him.




A spokeswoman for Dow Jones said, “We have full confidence in the rigor and accuracy of our reporting, and will vigorously defend against any lawsuit.”

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Trump responded to a question about the files from an ABC News journalist on July 15. U.S. Network Pool
Pages from the leather-bound album are among the documents examined by Justice Department officials who investigated Epstein years ago, according to people who have reviewed the pages. It’s unclear if any of the pages are part of the Trump administration’s recent review.

On Thursday, Trump said he had directed Bondi to “produce any and all pertinent Grand Jury testimony, subject to Court approval!” On Friday, Bondi and Blanche asked a federal court to do so, saying it was “a matter of public interest.”

The grand jury testimony makes up only a portion of the more than 300 gigabytes of Epstein-related material the FBI compiled as part of the recent review. Among other material, the FBI confiscated digital and documentary evidence from Epstein’s properties in the U.S. Virgin Islands and New York in 2019 when he was arrested.




Grand jury testimony is subject to secrecy protections and faces potentially high hurdles for public release. Administration officials privately acknowledge that the court is unlikely to release the testimony.

On July 15, an ABC News journalist asked Trump, as he took questions from reporters at the White House, what Bondi told him about the Epstein files: “Specifically, did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the files?”

“No, no, she’s—she’s given us just a very quick briefing,” Trump responded. He also said Bondi had “really done a very good job” on the Epstein review.

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Bondi clashed with Dan Bongino, the deputy FBI director, about releasing the files.
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The decision to not release the files and the harsh fallout among the public has roiled some of Trump’s senior staff, who have staked their reputations on exposing the ties between Epstein and moneyed elites.

Patel, the FBI director, and his deputy, Dan Bongino, had been in favor of releasing more documents, people familiar with their efforts said.

Bongino has told colleagues that his association with the administration’s decision to keep the files private has eroded his credibility among the base of support that fueled his rise as a successful podcaster and media personality on the right, according to a senior administration official. Bongino didn’t respond to requests for comment.

On July 9, after ABC News reached out to the White House about Bondi’s briefing to the president, Bongino and Bondi clashed in a meeting in which Bondi alleged that Bongino secretly provided information to the media to damage her reputation, people familiar with the meeting said.

Bongino in turn exploded about Bondi, his face red, and called her a liar, a senior administration official said.

Write to Sadie Gurman at sadie.gurman@wsj.com, Annie Linskey at annie.linskey@wsj.com, Josh Dawsey at Joshua.Dawsey@WSJ.com and Alex Leary at alex.leary@wsj.com

https://www.wsj.com/politics/justice-department-told-trump-name-in-epstein-files-727a8038

So now the WSJ has proven Trump is in the Epstein files… watching them slowly figure it out in the most awkward way is worth the price of admission.

The DOJ under Garland had the files. If there was anything that implicated President Trump in a bad light, you don't think Garland would have released those? That's the part that makes no sense to me.

Let's face facts, Maxwell will get a sweet immunity deal and probably a Pardon. All she has to do is say that Trump had nothing to do with any underage girls.

I have one piece of advice she may want to ponder, Trump has a habit of getting what he wants and then switching up the deal.. Then she'll lose all Cred (if she even has any) and won't be able to explain her way out of it.

Weren't Those files sealed by a judge... Biden or Garland wouldn't have been allowed to release them.

The Trump administration’s rather abrupt and combative 180 on the Epstein affair doesn’t make sense either. It’s one of those reactions where you scream “Don’t look over here there’s nothing!” Which makes everyone want to question what you’re hiding.

It leaves a lot to speculation. I would encourage everyone to read the depositions that are out there. Read all the names that were mentioned during the course of all them. How everything went down was creepy AF. The current situation, combined with what your point was, combined with all the names and places mentioned in the depositions leads me to believe that there are a slew of very powerful people across the spectrum who were entangled, and who are leveraging their influence and power to keep it from coming out.

Does anyone think we will ever see all information from the resent DOJ meetings with Maxwell? Or will trump cherry pick what information to release and who to pursue based on his political agenda. ie go after all democrats on the list and only republicans he doesnt like. Republicans he wants to protect will not be mentioned. You know like adding and abetting for his gain.

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"People keep writing about the time you flew out of Mar-a-Lago, can you settle that? What was it about? What caused the breach?" a reporter asked Trump during his trip to Scotland.

"Uh, that's such old history, uh, very easy to explain but I don't want to waste your time by explaining it," said Trump. "But for years I wouldn't talk to Jeffrey Epstein. I wouldn't talk. Because he did something that was inappropriate...

"He hired help and I said 'Don't ever do that again,'" he continued. "He stole people that worked for me. I said 'Don't ever do that again.' He did it again and I threw him out of the place. Persona non grata. I threw him out and that was it. I'm glad I did, if you want to know the truth."

Just so I've got this straight. Trump brags about grabbing women's genitals but vehemently denies drawing them? Sounds about right.

The lamest most scummy excuse yet. Version #348.............

Shark Tank’s Kevin O’Leary insists ‘nobody gives a poop’ about Epstein

‘Maybe they were raped, maybe they weren’t. This is not what American families give a d*mn about,’ Kevin O’Leary exclaimed on Monday night.

https://www.the-independent.com/new...ry-trump-epstein-files-cnn-b2793785.html

He is talking about teenage girls. Some as young as 13.

Could this guy be part of the Epstein files? Nobody has any idea whether he does or doesn't now do they....................

Former CEO of Christian nonprofit pleads guilty to possessing child pornography

The former CEO of My Faith Votes, a nonprofit that encourages "Christians in America to vote in every election," has pleaded guilty to possessing child sexual abuse images, months after his arrest.

Jason Christopher Yates, 56, pleaded guilty to two of eight felony counts of possession of child pornography on Tuesday, July 22, in a district court in McLeod County, Minnesota, according to a plea petition obtained by USA TODAY.

Yates was initially charged and arrested in October 2024, according to Minnesota state court records. My Faith Votes told Religion News Service that Yates served as its CEO until August 2024.

“In early August 2024, the My Faith Votes board of directors separated Jason Yates from My Faith Votes and board member Chris Sadler assumed the position of Acting CEO," the statement reads. "Over the last three months Chris has been working with the dedicated My Faith Votes team to encourage millions of Christians to vote, pray and think biblically about this election in America.”

Yates became the CEO of My Faith Votes in 2015 during the nonprofit's inception, according to his Truth & Liberty Coalition bio.

USA TODAY contacted My Faith Votes on Saturday, July 26, but has not received a response.

The Tamburino Law Group, whose attorneys served as Yates' legal counsel in the case, told USA TODAY in an email, "We are not commenting on this matter."

What did Jason Yates do?

According to a probable cause affidavit obtained by USA TODAY, an individual gave the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension a hard drive that contained child sexual abuse images on July 31, 2024. The person told agents that they received the hard drive from a relative of Yates who "accidentally discovered it" inside a dresser in the former CEO's office in McLeod County, Minnesota, according to the affidavit.

Yates' relative stumbled upon the child sex abuse images when they tried putting the hard drive in their computer for more storage, the affidavit reads. The hard drive contained more than 100 sexually explicit images of children, according to the document.

When agents met with Yates on Sept. 13, 2024, he confirmed that the child sex abuse images on the hard drive did not belong to the relative who found them, the affidavit states. He also told the agents that he had a prior conviction for possessing child sex abuse images, but it had been expunged, the document continued.

What is My Faith Votes?

My Faith Votes describes itself as a "non-partisan movement" that motivates Christians in the U.S. to vote in elections, according to the Fort Worth, Texas-based nonprofit's website.

"We desire to see an America where God is honored in the public square and biblical truth is advanced in our culture," My Faith Votes' website states.

The nonprofit was founded in 2015 by Sealy Yates, an attorney who previously served on President Donald Trump's evangelical advisory board, according to Politico. He is also Jason Yates’ uncle, according to Christian news site The Roys Report. Both are also literary agents representing Christian authors.

While My Faith Votes claims to be "non-partisan," the nonprofit has backed several Republican officials and conservative views, including anti-abortion.

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was My Faith Votes' honorary national chairman before becoming the U.S. Ambassador to Israel under Trump's administration, according to the nonprofit. Dr. Ben Carson was the founding honorary national chairman for the nonprofit before he became the U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development during Trump's first presidency.

Jason Yates is scheduled to be sentenced on Sept. 29, according to Minnesota court records.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ith-votes-ceo-pleads-guilty/85387519007/

Sounds totally non partisan to me.

We've all heard of the Christian Right. Is this guy a part of the Christian Wrong?

Sounds like they should lose favorable tax status. Certainly political and certainly not non-partisan. Sounds kinda grimy to me.

Man, Schulz, Musk and Rohan are all crowing about this issue. Big turn of allegiance.

Didn't want to start it's own thread unless it becomes official but feels like it fits in here
I only copied and pasted the 1st part of the article
The rest is mostly about Combs:



Trump Now “Seriously Considering” Pardon For Sean Combs Ahead Of Sentencing; White House Officially Says Nothing

EXCLUSIVE: Donald Trump is heavily weighing giving Sean “Diddy” Combs a full presidential pardon ahead of the convicted Bad Boy Records founder’s sentencing later this year.

Nearly two months after Trump publicly entertained the notion of a Diddy pardon in an Oval Office gaggle, a comprehensive get out of jail card for Combs is being “seriously considered,” an administration source tells Deadline.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/trump-now-seriously-considering-pardon-013444644.html

My take away……. Trump was supplying under age girls to Jeff.


And……why are minors working at a Trump spa?

Yes, but it will take someone on the inside that has had enough of the BS and wants the real stuff out there. Otherwise, all we'll get will be cleaned of Trump related stuff that makes him look good.