DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Preseason Gameday vs Carolina Post Game Thoughts

- Sanders really couldn't have looked much better. That was a great start. He seemed poised, under control, pretty accurate, quicker than I thought ... really nice start

- Sampson/Ford are clearly our backs right now ... Sampson didn't play much

- Hopkins has gone from GREAT to SCARY

- Floreia and #84 probably both deserve roster spots

- Our backup DL looked very good. That's a good sign

We looked sharper than our usual preseason openers. No turnovers! Not a huge number of flags. We put up some points. Congrats to SS. Played well and got some help. D held its own and got off the field. Not sure about injuries.

We looked better tonight than after Camp Cupcake openers that I remember.

Sanders looked pretty good overall.
Made some really nice passes.
And a couple poor ones.

He still has the tendency drift out of his dropback
Twice he tried to take 20+ yard sacks but failed.

What was up wiwth the big A$$ gold chain?

I am already tired of and annoyed by wristup
Why can't wh have a Qb who just plays good football
No gimmicks

At least we didn't look like a complete ^%#@%show tonight. Sanders looked good at times. (and really good on 3 or 4 throws and a couple of runs)

Defense looked solid. We have a ton of rookie WRs, and many looked decent.

We also played the team with one of the absolutely worse defenses last year. However, Sanders had outstanding ball placement on the 2 TD passes.

j/c:

The fight:



I never tried posting a twitter/X feed until now, so if that doesn't work, here is the article with it:

NFL preseason game erupts into wild fight as two players are tossed and one has his helmet ripped off

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/n...te-rayshawn-jenkins-panthers-browns.html

I saw Sanders play better than I thought he would (but remember folks it's pre season and the defense plays pretty vanilla. Our last pre season game last year Huntley went 17/22 146 yards with 3 TD's

Our RB's ran HARD (hoping Ford got stronger as he has always gone down easy.)

I hope to have time to watch the game over again before making any more observations.

It's only one game against not the most talented team but Shadeur looked very good and he was playing with our #2's against the Panthers #1's and moved the ball. He did miss some open guys which would have made his stats even better but all in all a very good performance. Our backup RB's particularly Marshall and our young WR's looked good too.

One thing I noticed about sanders in college that he redemonstrated last night (and in multiple practice highlights) was this knack of getting the ball through traffic.

He can throw the ball to a guy that is triple covered
3 defensive players reachig out for the ball and none touch it
The ball somehow finds a way to wiggle itself through

Good first look for a lot of players.

I am not all that concerned with the RB room. I saw 3 different FA type backs who looked to run with power, speed, and authority.

Sanders looked good. Played with some poise and threw several great balls. No complaints. We might have something there.

I like Gage and Floriea Too bad both got dinged to some degree. If they can keep playing like that, I'd rather roll with them over David Bell and some of the other stiffs who have made it to our WR room

If nothing else, out with the old stiff, in with the new. It's one thing to develop a player. It's another to spend 4 years trying. Two seasons. After that, time to move on. QB might be a bit longer than 2 years.

Not sure what it was I was expecting. I mean, here we have a young man (sanders) that apparently every team in the league passed on several times before the Browns finally took him. Shouldn't that mean he's destined to flop?

Anyway, thats not at all what he looked like.. Poised and looked like he belonged out there. Didn't get rattled at all. Two TD's and that pass to Floriea,,, the catch was a thing of Beauty... Floriea belongs here. And the kid who's last name I can never remember, Gage something, played well.

I thought overall, this was a good game. Looks like we may have something to work with at QB...

Grossi getting called out, lol.

Shadeur confronted Grossi the right way. He was decent not disrespectful or pugnacious about it. And yes, it looks like our WR and RB room may be deeper than we thought. Cautious optimism at this point...

I had flashbacks to Deion throwing water at Tim McCarver lol .. Shedeur was more classy of Course

When you’re a QB , a leader, just ignore the media. However he had a nice game, drifted back into trouble like in college, a couple times but overall a good start.

A rookie after one preseason game shouldn't be taking on the media that way. That's not a good sign at all. Hope he keeps that kind of crap in check. Let your play do your talking. Very childish on his part.

As for the game Sanders did come out a little unsure. It showed in his stats and play. But he soon settled down and did a fine job. He seemed to read the field pretty well overall. And I saw something from him last night that hasn't been an attribute of his much in the past but shined brightly. That was his ability to take off and scramble. He looked quite mobile, picked his opportunities to do so when the defense gave it to him. He also was smart enough to get past the sticks and get down before taking any direct hits. I was impressed by that. He still displayed his propensity to hang onto the ball when it would be est to throw it away but last night didn't pay the price for it with huge sacks. That certainly won't always be the case moving forward. But in the grand scheme of things that's something they should be able to coach out of him.

His pluses far outweighed his negatives. Others have already pointed out that this was only a preseason game against a team with a horrible defense. Teams play with a lot of backups and don't show their regular season offenses or defenses much. It's pretty vanilla stuff in general. That works both ways. It was a good start for both Sanders and this O in general. It takes building blocks to to lay a foundation and I saw that last night. I couldn't have expected anything more.

A lot of backups on D played against Carolina's first string O and held up pretty well overall under those circumstances. Once it got to the point of backups verses backups they dominated. Once again I have to keep things in the perspective of it being the initial preseason game, with that being said the way the D played last night reminded me more of the 2023 Browns D than the 2024 Browns D.

On to Philly next week and we shall see what we shall see.

Philly could definitely humble him. Carolina, even though it was their 1st stringers at times, is not a good defense.

That could be. Only time will tell. I don't take anything away from last night other than his play last night. And you are right. Philly is a much better team at all levels so it's hard to have a clue how he will look against them. Or depending on Pickett and Gabriel's injury progress if Sanders will even start next week. All of those factors are unknowns.

Sounds like Floriea should be fine.

Pit, I'm not saying Shadeur confronting Grossi was the right thing to do I'm just saying he did it the right way. He has to learn that if he plays well the media will and should acknowledge it. As for throwing the ball away when there's nothing there if they could coach it out of Vinny Testaverde, they can coach it out of Shadeur!

84 should be the punt returner. He is shifty. I only saw him on one punt return, but he looks the part.

definitely liked 84 and his athletic traits

First let's address this part of your post.....


The way I was raised there is no right way to do the wrong thing. If you mean he didn't throw a fit, curse and scream at Gossi you are right. So he could have done the wrong thing in an even worse way if that's what you're trying to say.


Did you mean to say the media won't always acknowledge it? Because they won't always do that. In many cases the media will create controversies where none really exists. Or did you mean Grossi should learn that he should always acknowledge it? Because if that's what you mean, it isn't Sanders job to try and teach that to the media. He needs to understand there will always be detractors and learn to live with it instead of confronting the media. If not the media will have a field day with it. He hasn't yet figured out how that works. If you plan to be an NFL QB you have to have thicker skin than that.

It's only a big deal if the team can't reel him in and stop him from doing that moving forward. If they can't it could become a huge distraction.


Yes, that's pretty much what I said......

Great result!

I’m glad that the Browns FO made the late decision to draft Shedeur against the owners wishes. Finally two wrongs ended up as one right.

Sanders isn’t a 5th rounder, and so far he has handled himself impeccable inside Berea. The speeding offense can be a blessing in disguise because it forced him to immediate accountability. I can see far away in the horizon a potential FQB if he continues to develop and the Browns under a season give him the chance behind Flacco to learn the craft to become a professional QB.

Too fast and too soon is the potential danger.

one other thing that I remember - sanders audibled or switched play sides a few times and that showed a nice sign IMO. One of them turned into a 10 yard run

Shedeur Sanders, the quarterback from Colorado, was drafted by the Cleveland Browns in the fifth round with the 144th overall pick. He is indeed a fifth pick. Nothing will ever change what position he was selected in the draft.

And his first preseason game, while it looked promising, is no indication of future results. There is also no evidence that actually supports this FO drafted Sanders against the Haslam's wishes.

Are you simply posting what you dreamed last nigh?

This bumps him up a notch in my book.

I have no problems whatsoever with a player in a nice and respectful way confronting idiots. Tony Grossi falls in that category.

Shedeur is also a brand and a face for his followers on social media. He has almost two parallel careers.

What he did against Grossi was to set boundaries and held him accountable to protect his brand. Shedeurs followers will now take care of the rest.
Some may not like this but this’s the new reality where social media is often more powerful than the conventional media.

I like it as long he’s not disrespectful and it’s not affecting his commitments with the Browns.
Both works in the eyes of the public and then they both know that to accept fair criticism is part of their job.

I thought I was the negative one. You and Tony Grossi….

The only thing he "set" was to set himself up if he keeps doing this.

Your comment above is what it looks like when you weren't paying attention without telling people you weren't paying attention...................


Try again silly rabbit.

In the 2024 last preseason game Huntley went 17-27 fr 146 yards and 3 TD's. What did that tell you? Try to keep up next time. He looked good in his first outing as I said before.

Your silly BS doesn't change any of these facts.....................

I like Sanders a lot and really hope he does well. I am not a fan of the wrist up thing just as I was not a fan of Manziel's money sign shtick. But whatever, just win games.

For me it's about context. An NFL player with a body of work with which to stand on has a lot more leeway. I'm not a Grossi fan by any stretch of the imagination. But Sanders is a fifth round draft pick with an entire half a preseason game under his belt. For me a player has to build up a resume' that gives him the right to do such a thing. One of those "you need to earn it first" situations. For now he just needs to keep his head down and put in the work.

I can see that not everybody agrees with that but if Sanders stumbles it only gives Grossi the ammunition to say he was right about Sanders from the beginning. As a young player who is still wet behind the ears I don't think that's a favorable position to put yourself in. But we all have to learn from our mistakes when we are young.

Positives

For the first time in a long . long . long time the Team came out and looked prepared and well Coached ! ! The Panthers are a bottom dweller but it was a pretty decent 1st PRESEASON game .. The D was very interesting to watch .. This kid 66 just might be a sleeper... Did anyone else get a kick out of the smallish running back Tuoa ? He is fast and makes nice cuts.Sanders looked good for his fist shot out of the gate.. Basically threw two TD passes to the same receiver on the same play { how bad are the Panthers } .. 138 yards in three quarters and no interceptions . As others have said , the Receiver room looks to be interesting .. Maybe , I say maybe the RB room might have a little juice... Next week against the Eagles will be a lot more telling.