That is too inconvinient. Easier to excuse and deflect. Same with the genocide in Gaza. . . nothing about that is humane or reasonable. It's almost funny to see so many alledgedly care about abortion and protecting human life - and yet the mass slaughter of innocent Palestinian women and children goes by without comment or care. MURICA !!!
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
So are some Muslims, agnostics, and athiests, Yet you don't hear any of them or you (not sure which you are) bashing each other or themselves. So why do you comment about Christians, and "that goes by without comment of care."
trump has a phone call with putin. It doesnt go well so he rewards putin by cutting off shipments to Ukraine. What is wrong with this guy? Whatever his reasons are you can be assured it has nothing to do with USA and has everything to do with trump making money.
That is too inconvinient. Easier to excuse and deflect. Same with the genocide in Gaza. . . nothing about that is humane or reasonable. It's almost funny to see so many alledgedly care about abortion and protecting human life - and yet the mass slaughter of innocent Palestinian women and children goes by without comment or care. MURICA !!!
They are pro birth and not pro life. trump just cut almost a trillion dollars from medicaid and over a quarter of a trillion dollars in food assistance. Listen not to what they say but rather watch what they do and what they support.
While Israel slaughters the children of Gaza and Russia slaughters the children of Ukraine, where is their outrage if they're pro life?
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China tells EU it can’t accept Russia losing its war against Ukraine, official says
Chinese Foreign Minister [censored] Yi told the European Union’s top diplomat that Beijing can’t accept Russia losing its war against Ukraine as this could allow the United States to turn its full attention to China, an official briefed on the talks said, contradicting Beijing’s public position of neutrality in the conflict.
The admission came during what the official said was a four-hour meeting with EU foreign affairs chief Kaja Kallas on Wednesday in Brussels that “featured tough but respectful exchanges, covering a broad range of issues from cyber security, rare earths to trade imbalances, Taiwan and Middle East.”
The official said [censored]’s private remarks suggested Beijing might prefer a protracted war in Ukraine that keeps the United States from focusing on its rivalry with China. They echo concerns of critics of China’s policy that Beijing has geopolitically much more at stake in the Ukrainian conflict than its admitted position of neutrality.
On Friday, at a regular Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs briefing, spokeswoman Mao Ning was asked about the exchange, which was first reported in the South China Morning Post, and re-affirmed Beijing’s long-standing position on the three-year war.
“China is not a party to the Ukraine issue,” Mao said. “China’s position on the Ukraine crisis is objective and consistent, that is, negotiation, ceasefire and peace. A prolonged Ukraine crisis serves no one’s interests.”
She added that China wanted a political settlement as quickly as possible: “Together with the international community and in light of the will of the parties concerned, we will continue playing a constructive role towards this end.”
China’s public statements on the Ukraine war mask a more complex picture.
Just weeks before Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Chinese leader Xi Jinping declared a “no limits” partnership with Moscow and since then political and economic ties have strengthened.
China has put itself forward as a possible peacemaker, but as CNN has previously reported the stakes are high for Beijing, not least potentially losing a major partner in Russia.
China has also rejected growing accusations it is providing near-military support to Russia. Ukraine has sanctioned several Chinese companies for providing Russia drone components and technology for use in missile production.
After a record assault on the Ukrainian capital Kyiv on Friday, Ukraine’s Foreign Minister, Andrii Sybiha, posted pictures he said were the fragments of a Geran 2 combat drone launched by Russia. One image displayed part of the drone’s alleged fuselage which said the device was made in China on June 20.
Sybiha added that night the “Chinese Consulate General’s building in Odesa suffered minor damage as a result of Russian strikes on the city. There is no better metaphor for how Putin continues to escalate his war and terror while involving others, including North Korean troops, Iranian weapons, and some Chinese manufacturers. Security in Europe, the Middle East, and the Indo-Pacific is inextricably linked.”
This year also saw allegations that Chinese nationals have been fighting with Russia in Ukraine. Beijing denied any involvement and repeated previous calls for Chinese citizens to “refrain from participating in military actions of any party.”
I'm not sure if it's okay to post our president saying BS or not. But if not it seems odd that he can spew it on national TV but we can't post it here. Ever since he decided to say the F bomb to the national press core where are the lines now?.........
So does this mean he has finally figured out that a former high ranking KGB agent hasn't been telling the truth? Something most all of us, including many Republicans have known all along? Does this mean he now finally understands that Putin isn't the good guy?
His response to who stopped weapons from being shipped to Ukraine last week was, "Why don't you tell me?"
Three hundred billion dollars?
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Trump-Putin summit in Alaska resembles a slow defeat for Ukraine
Location matters, former real estate mogul US President Donald Trump said. Moments later he announced Alaska, a place sold by Russia to the United States 158 years ago for $7.2 million, would be where Russian President Vladimir Putin tries to sell his land deal of the century, getting Kyiv to hand over chunks of land he’s not yet been able to occupy.
The conditions around Friday’s summit so wildly favor Moscow, it is obvious why Putin leapt at the chance, after months of fake negotiation, and it is hard to see how a deal emerges from the bilateral that does not eviscerate Ukraine. Kyiv and its European allies have reacted with understandable horror at the early ideas of Trump’s envoy, Steve Witkoff, that Ukraine cede the remainders of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions in exchange for a ceasefire.
Naturally, the Kremlin head has promoted the idea of taking ground without a fight, and found a willing recipient in the form of Witkoff, who has in the past exhibited a relaxed grasp of Ukrainian sovereignty and the complexity of asking a country, in the fourth year of its invasion, to simply walk out of towns it’s lost thousands of men defending.
It is worth pausing and reflecting on what Witkoff’s proposal would look like. Russia is close to encircling two key Donetsk towns, Pokrovsk and Kostiantynivka, and may effectively put Ukrainian troops defending these two hubs under siege in the coming weeks. Ceding these two towns might be something Kyiv does anyway to conserve manpower in the months ahead.
The rest of Donetsk – principally the towns of Kramatorsk and Sloviansk – is a much nastier prospect. Thousands of civilians live there now, and Moscow would delight at scenes where the towns evacuate, and Russian troops walk in without a shot fired.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s rejection of ceding land early Saturday reflects the real dilemma of a commander in chief trying to manage the anger of his military and the deep-seated distrust of the Ukrainian people towards their neighbor, who continues to bombard their cities nightly.
What could Ukraine get back in the “swapping” Trump referred to? Perhaps the tiny slivers of border areas occupied by Russia in Sumy and Kharkiv regions – part of Putin’s purported “buffer zone” – but not much else, realistically.
The main goal is a ceasefire, and that itself is a stretch. Putin has long held that the immediate ceasefire demanded by the United States, Europe and Ukraine for months, is impossible as technical work about monitoring and logistics must take place first. He is unlikely to have changed his mind now his troops are in the ascendancy across the eastern frontline.
Europe is also wary of mirroring the failure of former UK Foreign Secretary Neville Chamberlain to stand up to Nazi Germany in 1938 – of the worthlessness of a “piece of paper” signed by a Kremlin that has repeatedly agreed to deals in Ukraine and then simply used the pause to regroup before invading again.
To his credit, Putin has made it clear what he wants from the start: all of Ukraine subjugated or occupied and a strategic reset with the US that involves it dropping Kyiv like a stone. His aide, Yury Ushakov, spoke of Alaska being a great place to talk economic cooperation between Washington and Moscow, and suggested a return summit in Russia had already been proposed.
There is a risk we see bonhomie between Trump and Putin that allows the US president to tolerate more technical meetings between their staffers on the what and when of any ceasefire deal. A plan about land swaps or grabs that is wholly in Moscow’s favor, might then be presented to Kyiv, with the old US ultimatums about aid and intelligence sharing being contingent on their accepting the deal that we have seen before. Cue French President Emmanuel Macron on the phone to Trump again, and around we go. Putin needs more time to continue to conquer and he is about to get it.
What has changed since the last time Trump found his thinking dragged somehow back towards Russia’s orbit, around the time of the Oval Office blowout with Zelensky? Two elements are there now that were absent then.
Firstly, we cannot ignore that India and China – the former risking 25% tariffs in two weeks and the latter still waiting to learn what damage it’ll suffer – were on the phone to the Kremlin in the past days. They might have provided some impetus for Putin to meet Trump, or at least provide more lip service to diplomacy again, and may be concerned at their energy imports being compromised by Trump’s secondary sanctions.
But Putin cannot have needed much persuading to agree to a formal invitation to the US to have the bilateral meeting his team have long held out as the way towards peace in Ukraine. And another sanctions deadline of Friday has just whizzed past, almost unnoticed in the kerfuffle about Alaska and land deals.
Secondly, Trump claims his thinking around Putin has evolved. “Disappointed,” “disgusting,” “tapping me along” are all newcomers to his lexicon about the Kremlin head. While Trump appears effortlessly able to stop himself causing genuine pain to Moscow, allowing threats and deadlines to fall lifeless around him, he is surrounded by allies and Republicans who will remind him of how far down these roads he has gone before.
Much could go right. But the stage is set for something more sinister. Consider Putin’s mindset for a moment. The third Trump threat of sanctions has evaporated, and his forces are moving into a period of strategic gain on the frontlines. He’s got his first invitation to the US in a decade to talk peace about Ukraine without Ukraine, discussing a deal where he doesn’t even have to fight to get some of the rest of the land he wants. And this is before the former KGB spy gets to work his apparent magic on Trump.
Friday is six days away, but even at this distance resembles slow defeat for Kyiv.
Russia and the United States have discussed Israel’s occupation of the West Bank as a model for ending the war in Ukraine, The Times has been told.
Under this scenario Russia would have military and economic control of occupied Ukraine under its own governing body, imitating Israel’s de facto rule of Palestinian territory seized from Jordan in 1967.
The idea was raised weeks ago in discussions between Steve Witkoff, President Trump’s peace envoy, and his Russian counterparts, according to a source close to the US national security council.
Witkoff, who is also tasked by Trump with bringing peace to the Middle East, is understood to support the idea, which the Americans believe circumvents barriers in the Ukrainian constitution to ceding territory without holding an “all-Ukraine” referendum.
President Zelensky has refused to countenance handing over land but the occupation model may be a mechanism to allow for a truce after three and a half years of war.
I didn't read the article, so feel free to flame if I'm off-base (when I have time later today I'll read the article and modify my argument as necessary).
Anyone who sees the West Bank as a model to copy should be kept as far away from any decision-making as possible.
Seriously... name one thing in that whole dumpster fire that we'd want to do again.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
In what world would an American president ever think he has the ability or the right to negotiate a peace deal for a nation who is not even allowed in that negotiation or a seat at the table?
It would certainly not surprise me if trump met with Putin, announced he made a great deal with Putin while giving Russia massive concessions and then blamed Zelenskyy because he simply can not accept a deal like that. In the end it seems logical Putin will once again manipulate trump into blaming Ukraine for everything.
If Putin could manipulate trump into believing his word over our own national security this should be a piece of cake for Putin.
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Trump still claims Ukraine started the war after it was Russia that invaded them. And of course he has no idea of the concept that anything has to be approved by congress because he circumvents that with a stroke of his pen.
Why am I not surprised he is slamming Zelenskyy for following his nation's constitution? Who appointed trump the right to speak to Putin for Ukraine again? Oh that's right, he did.
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Why am I not surprised he is slamming Zelenskyy for following his nation's constitution?
Because he has always believed that "following rules" are for suckers and losers- and he was trained to look down on suckers and losers.
His pathology has been on display for more than 40 years, due to his incessant, obsessive need to be in the headlines. It's indelibly baked into his psyche.
His own behavior in the office of POTUS tells us exactly who he is. He relies on the Emergency Powers Act to press forth his agenda, circumventing the standard steps proscribed by the Constitution. He hates anyone who has the ear of their constituents, derived by less than shady means.
Honest love/support for good deeds done well in good faith are like garlic to a vampire with this dude... because they represent the opposite of what he is/has always been.
I remember the last time POTUS negotiated a deal without having the head of the country (where the war is being fought) involved directly.
It did not go well.
That's factually incorrect. It went extremely well for Trump. Better than he ever could have hoped for.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
If Trump was half as tough as he claims to be he would bitch slap Putin to an inch of his death and hang him for mass murder on the global stage. He’d be a world hero.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
I'm curious to see your reaction after you've been shot.I'd be willing to bet you would not jump up and yell fight,fight,fight.You internet tough guys truely are impressive.
I haven’t commented too substantively on the topic…somewhat because I’m waiting to see what happens to the talks and also because POTUS has been waffling so damn much since his term started as to who’s at fault and/or what he’ll do.
That being said, this was the right move to kick the talks off. I just hope he doesn’t F up on the actual substance. Zelenskyy should also be involved.
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I'm curious to see your reaction after you've been shot.I'd be willing to bet you would not jump up and yell fight,fight,fight.You internet tough guys truely are impressive.
So your excuse is he thinks Putin will try to assassinate him?
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Putin, largely isolated by the EU and much of the world, was just handed a global stage—complete with a red-carpet welcome and even kneeling from U.S. military personnel as they laid the red carpet 🤮🤮. Trump’s bluster before the meeting led to… absolutely nothing. No ceasefire, no peace, no accountability.
European leaders and analysts weren’t subtle in their criticism:
Wolfgang Ischinger, Germany’s former ambassador to the U.S., called it a win for Putin: *"Trump got nothing. No real progress—just a 1-0 for Russia. No sanctions, no gains for Ukraine, and deep disappointment for Europe."*
Sergey Radchenko, Cold War historian, noted: "Putin walked away with something for nothing. At least Trump didn’t fully sell out Ukraine."
Oleksandr Merezhko, head of Ukraine’s parliamentary foreign affairs committee, accused Trump of adopting Putin’s stance by sidelining any push for a truce.
But here’s what’s telling: Look at who was in the room—and who wasn’t. Ukraine was excluded, while key financial and economic figures took center stage. On the U.S. side, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross were present; Russia brought along Anton Siluanov (Finance Minister) and Maxim Oreshkin (Economic Development Minister).
Hard to ignore the subtext: This wasn’t about defending an ally. It was about backroom deals, money, and mutual gain—while Ukraine pays the price. Trump has continued to echo the Putin lie that Ukraine started the war - he talked about how great a power Russia is and their great soldiers while telling Ukraine they needed to accept any deal as they aren't a great power. 🤮
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
In your zeal to control all topics you do miss most of the substance of what people say.
You made a statement that many of our veterans defy every day. Many of them have served several tours of duty that involved going into battle on multiple deployments. They return from battle and join police forces across the country. The president is the head of the military.
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I'm curious to see your reaction after you've been shot.I'd be willing to bet you would not jump up and yell fight,fight,fight.
And many of them had more than a nicked ear. Many of them also witnessed their fellow soldiers be shot and die. Stop making excuses for the things you post.
I didn't miss a damned thing.
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WASHINGTON/MOSCOW/KYIV (Reuters) -U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday that Ukraine should make a deal to end the war with Russia because "Russia is a very big power, and they're not", after a summit where Vladimir Putin was reported to have demanded more Ukrainian land.
