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Yes, he took a city whose violent crime rate is down by over 20% from last year and is using his power to overtake and control that city. Murica! Freedumb!


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Looks like it was in response to this? ... still concerning


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Yes, he took a city whose violent crime rate is down by over 20% from last year and is using his power to overtake and control that city. Murica! Freedumb!

The crime rate numbers are a joke anymore. The police in most large Democratic cities have been rendered useless by Mayors and prosecutors. Crime is worse than ever it just goes unpunished for the most part. It is time to start holding people acccountabkle again and rid the streets of the violence.


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I am fully aware that there are now many in our nation who wish to ignore facts and that facts are now considered a joke by them. As long as they get what they want, facts be damned........

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Violent crime down 26%.

Homicide down by 12%

Assault with a deadly weapon down by 20%

Car jackings down is down by 37%.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/...rump-said-what-the-numbers-show/3972118/

If this is an example of why he thinks he can put feds on the streets of D.C, it's a n example of how he can do it everywhere.


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Release the Epstein files.


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Violent Crime Fell To A 30-Year Low In D.c. Last Year—and Rates Are Lower In 2025

Violent crime rates in Washington, D.C., dropped 35% from 2023 to 2024, marking the lowest rates recorded in more than 30 years, according to the Justice Department. According to data released Aug. 8 by the Metropolitan Police Department, violent crime rates have continued to fall in 2025, with violent crime down 26% year-over-year. The MPD said homicide rates have dropped 12% on the year so far, sex abuse by 49%, assault with a dangerous weapon by 20% and robbery by 28%. Property crime rates have also fallen, including burglary (19%), theft from vehicles (4%) and other theft crimes (6%). However, Trump continued to insist Sunday that the crime numbers keep rising. “The Mayor of D.C., Muriel Bowser, is a good person who has tried, but she has been given many chances, and the Crime Numbers get worse, and the City only gets dirtier and less attractive,” the president wrote on Truth Social. “The American Public is not going to put up with it any longer.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerr...ess-must-leave-immediately-what-we-know/

Officers, Trump said, will have authority to do “whatever the hell they want,” he said.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-dc-crime-08-11-25

Another small, unrelated tidbit from his rant was that he said he was going to meet Putin with in Russia on Friday. I'm not sure if he doesn't know Alaska is a state or if anticipates Alaska will be a part of the "territory swap" that will be given to give Putin in exchange for a peace deal in Ukraine.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Violent Crime Fell To A 30-Year Low In D.c. Last Year—and Rates Are Lower In 2025

Violent crime rates in Washington, D.C., dropped 35% from 2023 to 2024, marking the lowest rates recorded in more than 30 years, according to the Justice Department. According to data released Aug. 8 by the Metropolitan Police Department, violent crime rates have continued to fall in 2025, with violent crime down 26% year-over-year. The MPD said homicide rates have dropped 12% on the year so far, sex abuse by 49%, assault with a dangerous weapon by 20% and robbery by 28%. Property crime rates have also fallen, including burglary (19%), theft from vehicles (4%) and other theft crimes (6%). However, Trump continued to insist Sunday that the crime numbers keep rising. “The Mayor of D.C., Muriel Bowser, is a good person who has tried, but she has been given many chances, and the Crime Numbers get worse, and the City only gets dirtier and less attractive,” the president wrote on Truth Social. “The American Public is not going to put up with it any longer.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerr...ess-must-leave-immediately-what-we-know/

Officers, Trump said, will have authority to do “whatever the hell they want,” he said.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-presidency-dc-crime-08-11-25



ironically....

DC police commander suspended, accused of changing crime statistics
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/

A D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district.

The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment opportunity complaint against an assistant chief and the police union accused the department of deliberately falsifying crime data, according to three law enforcement sources familiar with the complaint.

The union claims police supervisors in the department manipulate crime data to make it appear violent crime has fallen considerably compared to last year.


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Here is a break down of the statistics by the DOJ.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Here is a break down of the statistics by the DOJ.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/district-crime-data-glance

again...


https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/

A D.C. police commander is under investigation for allegedly making changes to crime statistics in his district.

The Metropolitan Police Department confirmed Michael Pulliam was placed on paid administrative leave in mid-May. That happened just a week after Pulliam filed an equal employment opportunity complaint against an assistant chief and the police union accused the department of deliberately falsifying crime data, according to three law enforcement sources familiar with the complaint.

The union claims police supervisors in the department manipulate crime data to make it appear violent crime has fallen considerably compared to last year.


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Then can you please explain what the words "investigation", "claim" and "allegedly" mean?


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Then can you please explain what the words "investigation", "claim" and "allegedly" mean?


investigation
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/investigation

noun
the act or process of investigating or the condition of being investigated.

Synonyms: exploration, scrutiny
a searching inquiry for ascertaining facts; detailed or careful examination.

Synonyms: exploration, scrutiny


claim
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/claim

verb (used with object)
to demand by or as by virtue of a right; demand as a right or as due.

to claim an estate by inheritance.

to assert and demand the recognition of (a right, title, possession, etc.); assert one's right to.

to claim payment for services.

to assert or maintain as a fact.

She claimed that he was telling the truth.

to require as due or fitting.

to claim respect.

verb (used without object)
to make or file a claim.

to claim for additional compensation.

noun
a demand for something as due; an assertion of a right or an alleged right.

He made unreasonable claims on the doctor's time.

Synonyms: call, requisition, request
an assertion of something as a fact.

He made no claims to originality.

a right to claim or demand; a just title to something.

His claim to the heavyweight title is disputed.

something that is claimed, especially a piece of public land for which formal request is made for mining or other purposes.

a request or demand for payment in accordance with an insurance policy, a workers' compensation law, etc..

We filed a claim for compensation from the company.


allegedly
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adverb
according to what is or has been alleged. alleged.


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I see that Trump’s policy on the homeless in DC is to kick them out. Pretty sad that his policy isn’t get them the help they need and a roof over their heads, especially when his polices help create more and more homeless everyday. Oh well, at-least he addressed the issue. Which is something nobody else has in politics. I guess when all these homeless people start drifting in or near affluent communities because they’ve been kick out of wherever, maybe will see something more substantial done about it then. As Goper’s love to say, “we’ll see”


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Then can you please explain what the words "investigation", "claim" and "allegedly"


NAH I’ll copy and paste the definition from a Google search instead…lol


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I'm so happy to see you now understand that none of those words imply guilt or facts.

I remember when many people claimed and alleged there was was a pedophile ring in the basement of a pizzeria that after an investigation found there wasn't even a basement there. They even named it Pizzagate. They even went so far as to have protests outside the business.

A man named Edgar Maddison Welch, motivated by the Pizzagate conspiracy theory, arrived at the Comet Ping Pong pizzeria in Washington, D.C. with an AR-15 rifle on December 4, 2016. He fired his weapon inside the restaurant. As fate would have it that pizzeria was located in D.C. as well.

It's amazing how far down the rabbit hole some people can crawl based solely on claims and allegations before even so much as concluding an investigation.

And it would also be wise to include the fact that people can make up claims and allegations about anyone for anything. No facts required.

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Yes, he took a city whose violent crime rate is down by over 20% from last year and is using his power to overtake and control that city. Murica! Freedumb!

The crime rate numbers are a joke anymore. The police in most large Democratic cities have been rendered useless by Mayors and prosecutors. Crime is worse than ever it just goes unpunished for the most part. It is time to start holding people acccountabkle again and rid the streets of the violence.

You mean cities like Dallas, Houston, Miami, Those kinda Democratic cities..

By the way, the biggest outburst of Crime in DC was on Jan 6... Remember that one.,., Your feckless leader caused that.,


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And isn't it amazing how now he realizes he can call the National Guard into D.C. but couldn't figure out he had that same ability on Jan. 6th.

But then it's a different matter when criminals are doing your own bidding I suppose. Then not only do you refuse to call for reinforcements, you pardon them for their crimes.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Yes, he took a city whose violent crime rate is down by over 20% from last year and is using his power to overtake and control that city. Murica! Freedumb!

Down from what? Crime is still way out of control.
Homicides are up..

It is the Capitol of our country. It needs to be a shining light. It's run like a dump. Time to clean it up.


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nice stats and documentation to back up your claims


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Release the Epstein files.


What is it with the Epstein files?

What are you expecting or hoping to see?

Grand Jury proceeding are sealed. Is that what you are talking about?


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He’s also criminalizing homelessness. Wants cities to forcibly institutionalize or incarcerate those living on the streets. Also wants any housing assistance tied to treatment. Can he lockup the masses they’ll be making homeless with his big beautiful bill? And was any of this talked about on the campaign or is this more shaddow agenda like PROJECT 2025?

I think MAGA needs to rein him in…


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It's funny. When this subject was first brought up someone who is a further Trump supporter or still is, said it was nonsense because Trump doesn't have the power to do what was being suggested.

And here we are.

Trump more King like than ever. Made up and invented bullcrap justification to act like a dictator just like the invented fentanyl crisis on the Canadian border.

And people will still shill for this guy and try to justify it. Amazing.

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Release the Epstein files.


What is it with the Epstein files?

What are you expecting or hoping to see?

Grand Jury proceeding are sealed. Is that what you are talking about?

A lot of this stuff - like occupying DC because a 19 year old got mugged while leaving a bar - I think is a distraction. He’s been putting out crazy stuff, more than usual, since his base turned on him - albeit briefly - over the Epstein affair and he did a 180.

The Justice Department’s abrupt 180 on the information they have, followed up by Trump’s “nothing to see here” followed by unusually combative tone with the media started to raise up a lot of red flags. Follow that up with actually reading through the depositions and other court documents out there, and it starts to get rather chilling. Take all that combined with the move of Maxwell out of nowhere.

There is a lot of information not being shared and the POTUS is behaving as though that information is damaging to him.


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'Peen, the gran jury evidence is sealed (as per the norm) and is done so for a reason. I think it should stay that way. This would set a very bad precident. However, there is much more information /evidence available not presented to the grand jury. Release this information. What do I expect to see (other than nothing because trump will never allow the release unless dramatically redacted)? The answer is: I don't know. If I did, I wouldn't need it to be released. But what I want to know is: Who, other than epstein and maxwell are implicated. Then I want to know why they haven't beed thoroughly investigated.

DL05, I agree with your statement but think it is more. trump has long wanted to be an autharitarian dictator of this country. This is his way of chipping away at the safeguards. 1st LA, now DC. Then as he is foreshadowing NY and chicago. If we allow it to continue, the 2028 election will resemble a russian election. It feewls like trump is trying to turn the US into north korea.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

Need to clean up most large cities. There are no places for gang's in the US. Protecting bad behavior has to stop. get tough on crime and get tough on criminals.


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How often do you go to any of type big cities?


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Not just last year Peen. Last year it was down over 30% from 2023 and this year it's down by over 25% from last year. In total it's down to it's lowest level in 30 years. Stop making excuses for a tyrant. They need to help you make up your mind because they can't make up theirs.....



And then there's his veiled threat to do this in cities across America...................

Trump also suggested that the same fate could befall other cities around the country, though he only specified liberal hubs.

“We have other cities also that are bad. Very bad. You look at Chicago, how bad it is. You look at Los Angeles, how bad it is. We have other cities that are very bad. New York has a problem. And then, of course, you have Baltimore and Oakland. You don’t even mention them anymore, they’re so far gone,” Trump said, before promising that Washington would be cleaned up “very quick.”

Later, when asked explicitly if other cities were next on his list, Trump said, “We’re just going to see what happens. We’re going to have tremendous success with what we’re doing.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/oops-fbi-chief-undermines-trump-155713457.html

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Since when did you start backing unions? But they better be careful and remember how trump pardoned all of those people who assaulted their brothers in arms.


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From an article back in mid-July

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“When our members respond to the scene of a felony offense where there is a victim reporting that a felony occurred, inevitably there will be a lieutenant or a captain that will show up on that scene and direct those members to take a report for a lesser offense,” Fraternal Order of Police Chairman Gregg Pemberton said. “So, instead of taking a report for a shooting or a stabbing or a carjacking, they will order that officer to take a report for a theft or an injured person to the hospital or a felony assault, which is not the same type of classification.”

The police department's command staff is focusing on two categories in order to get the numbers to fall, Pemberton said: armed with a dangerous weapon and injured person to the hospital.

“When management officials are directing officers to take reports for felony assault, or if they're going back into police databases and changing offenses to felony assault, felony assault is not a category of crime that's listed on the department's daily crime stats,” Pemberton said. “It's also not something that's a requirement of the FBI's uniform crime reporting program. So, by changing criminal offenses from, for example, ADW bat or ADW gun to felony assault, that would avoid both the MPD and the FBI from reporting that as a part one or a felony offense.”

The union has been gathering evidence for some time now by looking at reports and talking with officers all over the city, Pemberton said.

“What we've heard through our members and through members of management that were willing to talk with the union is that this is a directive from the command staff, is that they wanna make sure that these classifications of these reports are adjusted over time to make sure that the overall crime stats stay down,” Pemberton said. “And this is deliberately done.”

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As of last Monday when News4 spoke with Pemberton, D.C. crime data shows violent crime was down 28%. Thursday, the department’s website said violent crime is down 25% when compared to the same time last year, and overall crime is down 8%.“That's preposterous,” Pemberton said. “There's absolutely no way crime could be down 28%. Last year they suggested that it went down 34%.”

In April, Pulliam’s wife, Capt. Rachel Pulliam, was transferred by Chief Pamela Smith from the Youth Division to midnights in the 7th District.

Subsequently, according to three sources familiar with the incident and the timing of everything, Wright ordered Cmdr. Pulliam to pack up his wife’s belongings from Youth Division and move them on his own to his wife’s new assignment in 7D.

He viewed the order as retaliatory and a misuse of authority, sources familiar with the complaint said.

About a week later, Cmdr. Pulliam’s police powers were revoked, five law enforcement sources told News4.


https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/


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Protecting bad behavior has to stop.


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Heaven help us if common sense measures be taken to help lower it further. I notice they didn't need to ask the National Guard to patrol their stores to enforce those rules.

As with any city or town you have good parts and bad parts. Pretending that's cause for calling in the National guard is simply empty rhetoric.


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So now we know what all of these uniformed National Guard troops will be doing. Won't be armed and can't arrest anyone? Another dog and pony show to pwn the libs by trump.

Security? Crowd control? What crowds? There are no crowds? And "communication support"? I guess that's what they need to be showing off al of those armored vehicles. What a joke.


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I think people would rather have security, and would prefer to NOT have National Security.

While this post is (as usual) a gross oversimplification to the point of being comedy, the point they're trying to hammer on is valid. It's just the wording here made me chuckle.


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I keep reverting to two things on this issue:

1. POTUS has mentioned using troops in America's largest cities. One conservative ideal I stand by is a "weak" central government. Let the states and localities govern themselves for the most part. Strong Tenth Amendment proponent. This is the opposite. One other bullet point in the case that Republicans are not in fact "conservative."

2. The whole time this has gone on, when I see people, Republican or Democrat, in favor of this deployment, I often think of Benjamin Franklin's quote: "Those who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety." I may have botched it, but that was my recollection.


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They have brought in DEA agents, FBI agents and agents of other government law enforcement bureaus. Has anyone bothered to ask themselves what these people were doing, what cases were they working on, that they had to be pulled away from in order to put on this side show?

When you pull hundreds of agents from different departments of law enforcement from across the country, what "aren't" they doing now?


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August 14, 20252:30 AM CDT Updated 7 hours ago

More than 1,450 law enforcement personnel were on patrol in Washington on Tuesday night, a White House official said, including 30 National Guard troops and 750 city police officers. The official said the White House expects a "significantly higher" Guard presence on Wednesday night.

The effort has resulted in 103 arrests since Aug. 7, including 43 on Tuesday, the official said. The charges include one homicide charge, 33 firearms charges and 23 immigration charges, the official said, and have led to 24 seized firearms.

During the same period in 2024, the Metropolitan Police Department arrested 364 people in total, police data shows, including traffic and liquor law violations as well as murder, prostitution, carjacking, assault, theft, burglary and robbery.

The MPD made 20,386 adult arrests in 2024, an average of 56 arrests a day, or nearly three times the rate cited by the White House.

The Metropolitan Police Department and the FBI on Wednesday both referred questions seeking more details on the arrests to the White House, a highly unusual deflection that signaled the White House's outsized role in overseeing the law enforcement crackdown.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tr...ntrol-over-washington-police-2025-08-13/


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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I’m betting there will be no National guard sent to Miami, Dallas, Atlanta, Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati, Louisville, Memphis, Alabama, Mississippi, or to any city in any red state. The bad news for red states is their homelessness will be ignored like it is everywhere now.


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