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He was a No Bill. I am not sure what else you want?

Texas didn't utilize the guy.

Bond is very good. Now we need to get verification he is signed and if so, how long it will take to get him up to speed. I think he has rookie of the year talent.

What is a no Bill? Didn’t play in Buffalo? Got no money?

Let’s concentrate on one moron player at a time. Is that too much to ask?

Yeah, your last point is always looming

My apologies if you were just joking. A no bill is when a grand jury refuses to indict a person.

I was joking. But I didn’t know what a no Bill is, either.

j/c...

can't see them trading him to us lol

Definitely not. And I'm not sure why the Browns would trade for him unless they are trying to win a bunch of games 10-9.

I can see them trading him to an NFC contender

Yes, in division NO, the guy wants big bucks--BUT, all guys getting paid are YOUNGER- father time stops for no man.

It's pretty comical to envision what pairing him up with MG would look like, both in terms of on the field as well as them starting contract drama in alternating off-seasons.

Browns are probably hesitant to give him a fully guaranteed deal. I’m sure Judkins wants one, but a suspension is still a possibility.

Video evidence has cleared him. If what you're saying is correct then he should wait until the NFL makes a determination to sign a deal. The NFL needs to figure out if they're doing an investigation quickly to help resolve this. If in fact video shows there were no injuries on here after the time she claims the incident happened this shouldn't be that difficult. She claimed the injuries happened due to domestic violence. If video proves that's not true this should be pretty cut and dry.

Don't count on it. The NFL seems to be able to conclude guilt & penalty, even without the "evidence" needed by courts. They are worried about upsetting the people that feel all allegations are true.

Multiple times when accusations are thrown out, the public, mainly by social media, are quick to choose a side, regardless if no evidence has been presented, just accusations.

I agree, if there is video of her not injured shortly after claiming she was, then there should be no penalty, but good lord get to it. It should not take more than a week. The league has a ton of money. Hire more people to investigate. The NFL fears backlash if their "findings" are wrong.

Yep. See the Ezekiel Elliott case of a player being cleared by the legal system only to still be suspended by the NFL as prior example.

Personally, I think it would behoove Judkins to get a deal signed and get in and start practicing with the team while this plays out. If this drags on too long he could be setting himself back further. Maybe the parties involved believe he would be put on the Commissioner's Exempt List should he sign while the NFL investigation is underway?

From the other day...

"The incident was not captured on any video surveillance," the memo stated. "There are no independent witnesses to the incident. Although the victim had photos showing injuries sustained, there were also videos in that same time frame where no injuries were observed to the victim. Additionally, the victim's injuries depicted in the photos could be explained by either account of the incident. Finally, there was a delayed report of the incident. The delay is problematic as the victim was alone on numerous occasions without the Defendant, had the ability and resources to make the report without his knowledge, but chose not to do so. For the reasons set forth above, there is no reasonable likelihood of conviction and this case is being declined."

Judkins, 21, could still face discipline from the NFL for violation of the league's personal conduct policy as the league will continue its own investigation.

"We have been following developments in the matter which remains under review," a league spokesman said on Thursday in a statement obtained by NFL Network Insider Mike Garafolo.

https://www.nfl.com/news/florida-pr...charge-browns-rookie-rb-quinshon-judkins

Not all cases are the same. In a he said she said it's far more difficult to reach such a conclusion verses a case where 26 she saids one 1 he said are on the table. It's harder to reach such a conclusion when video evidence shows the allegations were not true. This is not a one size fits all scenario.

I think it might be more likely they stick Pickett on the PUP list or something like that than keep 4 on the roster on Sunday against Cincinnati. They started w/ four last year after the first run of the 53-man roster was set trying to trade Huntley but ultimately cut him a day or so later. Plus, Stefanski's comment post-game last Saturday seem to allude to the idea that keeping 4 would be hard and tough decisions will have to be made.

I think Pickett could end up on PUP too. His hamstring does seem pretty severe

Obviously they don't drug test.

I was thinking they could cut him and try to get him back on the practice squad. He's definitely the one I'd risk losing.

Interesting comment at the end. "Maybe someone calls asking for one of the rookie QBs."

It sounds like Berry is fishing for a trade of some kind.

I don't know what either rookie QB would fetch in a trade ... or what team would try calling for one

Different scenarios.. Elliot's ex-girlfriend had 5 separate issues filed against him. Even though none of them led to criminal charges, it took the NFL a full year to investigate them all to come to their conclusion. I don't think this investigation is going to be anywhere near that length because the facts of the case are fresh and all leads to a single incident.

As many have already said, it's a case by case basis. You can't simply point to one case and assume the next one will follow the same outcome.

I agree 100% that he needs to get signed an in camp. What we don't know is if the league has instructed the Browns to wait until the investigation is concluded to do so. They might already have a timeline and let them know to give them until a set date before moving forward. They might already have contract structure in place for two scenarios coming out of that investigation.

9 wins is barely above .500 and most likely leaves you off the wild card list.... We are 1 year removed from being a playoff team with 11 wins on the regular season. I know we are going to throw in the 3 win season last year, but that is more of an anomaly over the past 5 years than the 11 wins.

11-5
8-9
7-10
11-6
3-14

9 wins SHOULD be within reach.

This team is ready to win on defense.. There are a lot of question marks on offense, but we are arguably in the best QB shape since Baker left. I need to see some WRs step up into that 2nd/3rd role, but Jamari Thrash has looked improved the last two preseason games. If either Johnson or Bond can come in and be that #3 guy, the offense can be better than everyone is expecting. Judkins would bolster the offense, it could be a shot in the arm sooner than later.

For everyone saying they definitely won't beat the Ravens week 2, Last 4 years the Browns are 4-4 against the Ravens.. albeit, they don't fare well in Baltimore.

I could see the browns with 5 wins going into the bye. It isn't impossible. Any given Sunday will ring true every week this season.

Berry might be open to swaps for draft picks for next year. Maybe tint us as "tanking-ish", not paint us as such. This might be a seller's market for us; we have shown some talent, and cashing some of it if four isn't the plan makes some sense to me. We may need to open roster up for CB's. Might help us there. I think Pickett might fetch something.Go, Berry!

I liked Briggs but the dline is too deep.

I really liked him too. He was a beast in the Eagles game. However, as you said, there was simply no room for him on the DL.

Jowon Briggs was a nice story. This would seemingly bode well for Adin Huntington’s chance to make the team.

It’s nice to have a position group where we have an embarrassment of riches, relatively speaking.

Our DL depth is very good. Sucks to give up good talent. You wish you could just move that talent to a different position lol

Shoulda put him at WR. Could you imagine him running a route on a 185# CB?

I'm a little surprised by this move. Briggs was really our only DT who fit the mold of a run plugger...every other DT can certainly play the run but are up-field guys who have the skill to get after the QB...at least as much as any DT can.

I'm guessing this means Shelby Harris is safe (really like him but he's 34) and I'd bet they like Holley for the PS.

It’s always good to check and see if there’s anyone out there who can help us but It looked to me like we had some pretty good RB prospects