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will be nice to have the games count for real

Sometimes these preseason games are the best games of the season for us Browns fans, unfortunately.

Real nice punt!

Corners still can't catch

Looks bad for Pocic.

Wypler SZN.

Figures

TD!!!

Flacccccccccccccco

Our D looks so good so far!

Guess were back to the no fun league

Well .. leave the receiver open by 15 yards ......

TD!!!

Over under hopkins blows 3 games

Our run defense is not very good.

Under ..... because he might not make the team.

We defiantly need to look at options.

Both Flacco and Gabriel looked really good.

He's garbage but my guess is he makes the 53 because of his contract.

Well .... Sanders definitely has some work to do.

I was glad to see Fannin Jr with a couple of catches and the TD.

Sanders needs consoling after being benched, was he crying- he drifted back MANY times a known weakness, he fumbled/ or nearly so- he showed he's a 5th RD talent-- Huntley more talented than he- JMHO, could easily be cut.

- Was a little disappointed the starters could muster only one scoring drive against L.A.'s backups.
- Flacco with a nice TD throw to Fannin
- Hopkins should be released, I'm not convinced he will be though.
- Gabriel looked good. Did a nice job moving the team up and down the field. He missed an opportunity when he tried to squeeze the ball into Thrash on the TD.
- Schwesinger continuing to be very impressive.
- The depth in the secondary is quite concerning.
- Be interesting to see if the Browns keep Carter or Larvadain. I think they keep Carter and put Larvadain on the practice squad.
- Sanders may have peaked against the Panthers' grocery store clerks. The drifting and taking and unnecessary were the same things said about him in college.
- Sanders body language and demeanor were inexcusably poor. Tony Brown tried to cheer him up after the browns actually won the game but he kept moping around.
- Adin Huntington continued making a strong case for a roster spot on the 53.
- Harden has to catch the ball for an INT.

On to the regular season.

He earned his roster spot.

SS played poorly. Not much help around him, but don't blame them. Lot of the struggles and fails were self-inflicted. Took sacks, struggled with reads, and mentally collapsed. Second half looked like a tantrum after we gave them the ball back on drives with no points. Obviously our announcer couldn't shut up about him during halftime and into second half until he was pulled. Inane number of attempts to blow up rookie QB controversy he seemed to insist on. Endless.
We could have talked about Joe Cool's success. Solid performance. Gabriel really played well. Defense was chat worthy. Sanders is bottom of depth chart in my view.
We went 3-0 pre. We have cutdown coming. We need some positions shopped and some folks chopped. Good luck, Browns! I believe ditching Camp Cupcake has resulted in success; we look more game-ready.

Not sure why my last post isn’t showing up. Stefanski said that it doesn’t look like Pocic’s injury is a long term thing.

Very VERY good news. Probably a sprain, hopefully mild.

I hate to say things base on the preseason since it's just very generic playcalling that creates an illusion. That being said,

Flacco looks relaxed and ready to kick some arse. Fanning did terrible at blocking but amazing as a receiver. Run game looked putrid.

DG looked efficient and more calm and moved the ball. I don't think he is ready to start but he is fine as the backup.

SS definitely regressed into his old bad habits. I am also pretty sure he was still hurt which affected the accuracy of his throws. What saddens me is that I saw him making good mental progress before this game but he made himself look why he fell to the 5th ... slow decision making and taking way too long to throw the football. He clearly needs more time to get rid of those bad habits. He is nowhere near ready to be the starter and handed the back up to DG for the year most likely.

Schwesinger looks more and more like the steal of the draft!!! That kid is ON FIRE!!! He will be a starter for a LOOOOONG time to come.

Dillon Gabriel played really well. Kudos to him. He earned all the praise in the world.

Flacco and the starters played impressive and as expected but it’s pre season games without most starters so I take all results with a grain of salt until the big boys arrive.
The defense looked good. Dillon definitely deserved to be the QB2 and everything is rosie and fine until it’s not. Week 1-6 will tell us if the optimism is deserved.

It’s obvious that Stefanskis main plan all along was to set up Sanders to fail to justify his own selections. He succeed. I give him that.

This’s the second time he let his ego come before the best interest of one of his players. That’s alarming.
I don’t like to say it because the Browns local cavalry will come out in full force to defend him and that will take away the good feelings from todays all around good performances but what I see is a small human being who can’t handle guys with genuine swagger and confidence. First Baker and now this young man.

I see on social media that I’m not alone and it’s really telling that a white old conservative man from northern part of Scandinavia is in full sync with a large part of the black community because of such a blatant lack of respect against a young black man. I just talked to my black friend Darryl from San Mateo and he agreed with me despite being a die hard Niner fan.

Shedeur must for his own good leave this organization asap..

Just watched the rest of the game. Preseason Champs! 3 & 0!

SS was pretty bad this game. He'll need a lot of coaching to learn how to play properly in the NFL. He hangs onto the ball way too long and also loses yards running backwards. He's obviously not ready for prime time. Maybe one day? Maybe not? Regardless, not a good look from him today.

Under. I think we keep the other kicker.

“It’s obvious that Stefanskis main plan all along was to set up Sanders to fail to justify his own selections. He succeed. I give him that.”

Yeah, the head coach wants his rookie to fail. My god, you are so intelligent, football savvy. You’re too good for the rest of us. I wouldn’t blame you if you never posted here again.

You’re either a troll or an idiot.

"It’s obvious that Stefanskis main plan all along was to set up Sanders to fail to justify his own selections. He succeed. I give him that."

Obvious hey?

What is the depth chart of the Browns quarterbacks?
Let me help you Flacco, Pickett, DG, SS.

What possible incentive would KS have trying to sabotage SS?

Do you know the complete roster and how each player's time is allotted?

Have you ever run or seen a football practice?

To make a statement like you made about any head coach in the NFL making his main plan to be about setting up a any player to fail only illustrates your lack of knowledge about the NFL.

One thing that Joe Thomas pointed out was that there were times when Sanders had a pocker to step up into, but drifted backwards instead. He has to learn pocket awareness.

What is obvious is SS has trouble reading a D and frankly, I don't think he has command of the playbook. It doesn't look like he knows where the receivers go on a play. He knows the #1 guy. If that guy isn't open quickly he has to spend too much time searching for another option.

Another thing that is obvious is it doesn't bode well for a players development if his Dad has been his coach his whole life.

And one other thing...Huntley had no problem getting us in to FG position, playing with the same player Sanders was.

Bottom line is Sanders problems were on him. Nobody else.

Hopefully they’ll coach it out of him.

Well, that settles it, Darryl has spoken!

I haven’t t seen any of the game, but from what I’ve read, he needs to stop whining, moping around the sideline like a high school kid. His dad was a great player, we aren’t sure he is.

Not even close.

Hopefully you can see it so you can draw your own conclusions. I will say he did have a ton of pressure on him in most drop backs. Some of them he should have moved up in the pocket and gotten rid of the ball. Other times he had time and failed to throw the ball. One play he ran straight backwards for a huge loss. I don’t remember what the yardage to go was but after the sack it was third and thirty five. I thought his body language was bad as well.

I’m rooting for the kid but he isn’t ready yet. I would keep Pickett as our number two over Gabriel until I see more. If Flacco falters put Gabriel in.

couldn't post much due to other obligations, but the 1st team O looked like it should. I think Fannin is gonna be a good player. And I like Sampson's burst

Here's the play. Sack for a 24 yard loss.

he has a really bad habit of drifting back .. back ... that only leads to disaster in the NFL

2nd and 24?????

Get that stink off!!

Congrats, this may the dumbest comment I’ve seen on this board. It definitely holds the standard to compare others to for at least the rest of this season. Just so so dumb. Are you also a flat earther?

Tends to be the intellectual/ emotional children who like to imagine that others are similarly intellectual/ emotional children and imagine they have all sorts of fanciful resentments and melodramas even when there’s no history of it, no evidence and it would only hurt their own cause. Why would he do that? Because his desire to be known as a good draft picker would eclipse his desire to be successful at his job and ultimately keep that job? Because (as an nfl coach) he doesn’t like QBs who have confidence? Wut? What evidence do you have for literally any of this?

None. The answer is none. Or rather, the twitter children’s mob. Which is the same thing as none.

Not exactly a good day for Deion. Son Shedeur looked really bad for the Browns, his other son Shilo gets ejected from his game for punching someone in the head.

Happy for Fannin! I got to see more of Sampson. I am impressed. Sanders was lousy. Looked like Frustration led to a tantrum. SS stunk it up. Not ready for this game, and when the real bullets fly in NFL ball. Be confident, but evidently lots to learn yet. Maybe PS. Has taken quite a few sacks, and didna help the cause today. Keeping him for more of this product today? Watson 2.0 performance?

Joe knows. Don't care about social media opinion like some seem chained to. Lousy habits that weren't coached out before and must be now. A real drive-killer today. Congrats to DG for solid work today. Praise for Flacco. We had to carry SS today and managed to survive. Snooooop!

PS Not sure we can live with Hopkins. We have his competitor to thank for the win. Preseason wins still feel good. Go, Browns!

I just love all the idiots who think Sanders will land on another team if he is cut from the Browns. No one else wanted him. After a game today where he completely regressed into the bad habbits that made him fall in the draft I don't think any other team is desperate enough to sign a back up QB where they have to deal with all his idiotic fanatics. Sanders is very much at risk of being Tim Tebowed out of the league.

Instead Sanders, needs to work hard to fix his problems because they ARE fixable. Once he fixes the problems his father failed to fix I think he has a real shot. I actually though he was doing good on improving himself till he cracked under pressure today and was probably playing hurt. Huntly had no problems moving the ball when he came in so Sander should have been able to move the ball too. I just think Sanders falls into a hero mentality FUNK and just can't get rid of the ball looking for that perfect pass. He has to fix that or he won't be in the league for very long.

I've been wanting to bring this up since this whole the Browns are ruining him thing started a couple weeks ago.


Sanders played under his father his whole life. Played at Jacksonville State then Colorado. 1 system

Gabriel played college ball at Central Florida, Oklahoma, and Oregon. 3 different systems.

There is a reason why Gabriel was getting snaps with the 1st-2nd team in practices (I'm not adding talent and performance into this). He's had way more experiences running different offenses. He's played at top tier colleges, playing against top tier teams. His experience (w/ the playbook, formations, reading, etc.) is one of the main reasons he's getting these reps.

Having Sanders on a separate field is for bring him along slowly to learn many of different things (i.e. fundamentals, playbook, reads, etc.). It's not b/c they want to ruin his career or separating him b/c they hate him. That is just plain dumb.

Joe Flacco is a NFL professional quarterback.

The energizer Bunny will be wearing Hanks old number

I would like to see Shedeur succeed also and Dillon for that matter. The thing I don't understand is how he could look so good against Carolina and so bad yesterday. It looked like 2 entirely different QB's. Right now you would have to put him 5th on the QB list behind Huntley. Not good.

I like Fannin as well.

Bottom line on Sanders is we will keep him to start the season. I don't think we will be able to slide him through to the PS. That being the case, he has some trade value if we decide to go that route. Personally, I don't like the guy but wouldn't give up on him based on one crap performance. It's not like he doesn't have talent. His problem is he is immature. He hasn't had much of a challenge with his Dad being his coach since he was a kid. I don't know if that can be coached out of him or not.

Some may call it setting him up for failure. I call it trying to coach him up to being mentally able to face the rigors of the NFL, but setting him up for failure? No, that is an excuse. Huntley went in and moved the same group of players.

Yes, Huntley is a vet. It just proves that Sanders has a way to go and isn't ready for the mental challenges of playing QB in the NFL. He needs to suck it up and toughen up. It wasn't a good look when it looked like he was going to walk off the field.

I will close with this thought. If this was any other 5th round rookie QB, would the Browns use an additional roster spot to keep him on the team?

I have not seen the game or highlights yet. First and foremost - it's preseason. So good performances mean little. And while running a very bland and vanilla offense - most of the offense whether good or bad, means little too.

With that said - it does sound like SS had a particularly bad game. And while anyone who posts should no I am no Stefanki fan - the idea or even suggestion that he (or the organization) somehow drafted SS and are now 4 months later actively contriving to set him up to fail .... is really tragically, spectacularly asinine. It's unfortunate that anyone would bring race into this - but sadly I read a lot of comments online that certainly read like they support SS for one primary reason and then flip that to criticize the Browns or other fans who critique Sanders. A poster above (Lamp?) highlighted the experience of SS vs Gabriel - the talent they faced, the varied (or singular) offense they have run.... There are very reasonable explanations for some of Sander's struggles after half a training camp and 2 pre-season games. It's not a nail in the coffin for him, in many ways it should be expected. And I don't need to spend more time reading or commentating on our 5th round pick sho is struggling. It's enough to say I hope he improves, much like I hope all the young talent does.

Edit - I should add, of all of it I am possibly most excited about Schwesinger (do we have a universal nickname for him yet?) ... I've coveted a dominating ILB for a decade and been left totally uninspired by our LB core (with the exception of JOK) forever. The D might get tired in some games from a lack of offensive time of possession but they should also be much fun to watch assuming we see limited injuries.

Oh believe me, we see it too.

It's good to know you at least have one black friend and get your opinions from social media.

Sanders needs time to mature and develop as a pro guy. He's got some tools but no experience and bad habits

"justify his own selections."



I feel the need to clarify that KS is "not" the GM.

He does not make draft selections.