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I usually am close to the final 53. This year I’m not so sure. I know one for a fact. Congratulations Adin Huntington

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Final cuts are Tuesday to get to 53. Will be interesting to see how the DE situation plays out.
I’m hoping we can add a solid vet DB, if not two of them.


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My 53

QBs
Flacco
Pickett
Gabriel
Sanders

RBs
Ford
Sampson
Strong
Judkins

WR
Juedy
Tillman
Bond
Thrash
Carter

TEs
Njoku
Fannin
Whiteheart (if he is healthy)

Oline
Jones
Bitonio
Pocic
Teller
Conklin
Wypler
Zinter
Barton
Lucas (if healthy)
Cohen

Dline
Garrett
Wright
MacGuire
Tryon-Shoyinka
Graham
Collins
S. Harris
Huntington
Kamara

LBs
Schwesinger
Diabate
Bush
Baker
Reid

Cornerbacks
Ward
Newsome
Mitchell
Harden
Brown

Safety
Delpit
Hickman
Jenkins
Kazee
Needham

Special Teams
K Hopkins
P Bojorquez
LS Sunahara

I fully expect a trade for another CB to play slot. Berry mentioned that LB and Safety are two positions where we can make up for carrying four QBs

T Jenkins will probably make the roster over Cohen because of his starting experience. I think he sucks to the point where I feel dirty putting him in the 53.

I put Needham in because he can play nickel corner as well as safety. He will be the one axed when we bring in another cornerback.

I left Okwara off because of numbers. I could see him on the 53 and Reid to the practice squad.


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I thought they said Reid got hurt


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Reid is hurt but I don’t think it was serious


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oh okay thanks


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I just can't see having 3 QBs on the roster. Taking Sanders in the 5th was a gamble. Maybe it's time to gamble again on parking him on the practice squad. I just don't see him contributing to wins this year. That's a tough one because he may very well develop into an elite player. But he's not going to be elite this year.

The rest of your 53 looks pretty solid. We've had much worse.


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Originally Posted by jeepnstein
I just can't see having 3 QBs on the roster. Taking Sanders in the 5th was a gamble. Maybe it's time to gamble again on parking him on the practice squad. I just don't see him contributing to wins this year. That's a tough one because he may very well develop into an elite player. But he's not going to be elite this year.

The rest of your 53 looks pretty solid. We've had much worse.

Did you mean 4 qb's on the roster? I can't see keeping less than 3 on the roster.


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T Jenkins will probably make the roster over Cohen because of his starting experience. I think he sucks to the point where I feel dirty putting him in the 53.

Surprised to see you say this, He was a pretty good player for the Bears and according to PFF he was our highest graded OL player in the game we just played against the Rams.


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My 53:

K - Szmyt
P - Bojorquez
LS - Sunahara

QB (3)
Flacco
Gabriel
Pickett/Sanders (I think 1 or the
other gets traded)

RB (4)
Ford
Sampson
Strong
Judkins/Williams ( Judkins if he gets signed)

TE (3)
Njoku
Fannin
Whiteheart

WR (6)
Jeudy
Tillman
Thrash
Bond
Carter/Larvadain ( If they trust Larvadain as a returner I think he gets kept over Carter)
Free Agent pickup

OL (9)
Pocic
Teller
Bitonio
Conklin
Jones
Wypler
Jenkins
Lucas
Zinter

DL (9)
Garrett
Graham
Collins
Wright
McQuire
Harris
Hall
Okwara
Huntington

LB (6)
Schwesinger
Bush
Diabate
Baker
Reid
Free Agent Pickup

DB (10)
Ward
Newsome
Mitchell
Harden
Delpit
Hickman
Jenkins
Needham
Brown
McMillon


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I really like his game and his motor. Haven't seen him as much as I want to yet, but he works at his craft.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by jeepnstein
I just can't see having 3 QBs on the roster. Taking Sanders in the 5th was a gamble. Maybe it's time to gamble again on parking him on the practice squad. I just don't see him contributing to wins this year. That's a tough one because he may very well develop into an elite player. But he's not going to be elite this year.

The rest of your 53 looks pretty solid. We've had much worse.

Did you mean 4 qb's on the roster? I can't see keeping less than 3 on the roster.

Yeah, my bad. Typing while multi tasking.... I can't see 4 on the roster.


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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I thought they said Reid got hurt


Back injury... nothing serious


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I would have thought that Davis and Larvadain showed enough.. Betting one or both gets picked up by someone if set free by us.

Still think it's nutty to carry 4 QB's.. Gabrial seems to be the better of the Rooks. After the first two preseason games, I thought Sanders had the lead. But after yesterday, Dillon seems more prepared.

Was Sanders feeling the effect of his injury. He didn't look good yesterday.

Anyone know of the rumor about Chubb being cut by the Texans is real?


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I think there’s zero chance Chubb gets cut. Nixon is hurt and Chubb played pretty well considering in their home preseason game…. He still seems to have a lot of power just not as fast as he used to be.

I think their hope is that he’d be a good power back for them behind Mixon… right now Chubb is listed as #1 with Damien Pierce a close second… unless Nick gets hurt I don’t see the Texans dropping him…


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Huntington absolutely earned his way onto the roster with the preseason he had. I don’t recall the last time I saw a motor of that magnitude on a big guy his size. I mean, how many times was he the one who made the kickoff tackle on special teams? He also ran around like his hair was on fire during defensive plays.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
I would have thought that Davis and Larvadain showed enough.. Betting one or both gets picked up by someone if set free by us.

Still think it's nutty to carry 4 QB's.. Gabrial seems to be the better of the Rooks. After the first two preseason games, I thought Sanders had the lead. But after yesterday, Dillon seems more prepared.

Was Sanders feeling the effect of his injury. He didn't look good yesterday.

Anyone know of the rumor about Chubb being cut by the Texans is real?

I really like Larvadain. I think it’s between him and Carter. Carter was brought in to be our returner and I think we go with him. I think he will make it through waivers and be on our PS.

I agree about carrying four QBs.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Huntington absolutely earned his way onto the roster with the preseason he had. I don’t recall the last time I saw a motor of that magnitude on a big guy his size. I mean, how many times was he the one who made the kickoff tackle on special teams? He also ran around like his hair was on fire during defensive plays.
I’ve never seen anything like him on special teams. He was a complete beast out there. He is undersized at DT and doesn’t have elite size for DE either. The thing is he was able to play both positions this preseason at a high level because he has elite athleticism.


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Honestly, I think I try to get Shedeur to the practice squad. If someone else wants the headache, more power to them. He's not ready. Could he be eventually? Maybe. I'm over the circus. Time to get ready the guys who are actually close to ready. Shedeur doesn't seem to be a guy that doesn't make the same mistake twice. It could take some time to break his bad habits and get him game ready, if it ever happens. The highs look great, but the lows are low, and that variability is problematic. I float him as available. If the Raiders/whoever will give up anything for him, I take it. I think we're drafting the QB next year. I don't really want to invest a ton of resources in a project with a cult-like following.

I don't know what we're going to do at WR or on D.

If it's me, I lean towards the younger guys. Larvadain over Johnson/Carter. Not sure the Browns feel the same.

I think the Browns will probably go Tryon-Shoyinka as the last DE. I'd probably go Cam Thomas.

No idea what they'll do at DB. It's hard to get a great read from the TV angles. The dropped INT wasn't a great last(ing) impression from Harden. Nobody else has really stood out, either, though. Bigger guy (Jones?) was pretty active and may have done enough in run support to stick.

Jenkins also had some nice moments in run support. The ejection was a pretty big black mark, though. Will be interesting to see what they do behind Delpit and Hickman there at safety. I probably go Jenkins and McMillon over Kazee.

Think Needham probably sticks. Has versatility on his side and came down with the INT previously. Might end up starting in the slot. At least to start the season.

Wouldn't be surprised if we pick up some corners off waivers. Maybe see a player for player trade with a guy we were going to cut on the DL.


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Cam Thomas seemed to have a decent few preseason games, so I'd probably want him too


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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This is interesting... chatgp

On a typical NFL 53-man roster, about 15–17 players (roughly 30–35%) are undrafted free agents (UDFAs).

Every year, around 40–50% of the league is made up of players who originally entered as undrafted rookies.

Typical Distribution on a 53-Man Roster

QB: 0–1

RB/FB: 1–2

WR: 2–3

TE: 1

OL: 2–3

DL: 1–2

LB: 2–3

DB: 3–4

Specialists: 2–3


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I would have thought that Davis and Larvadain showed enough.. Betting one or both gets picked up by someone if set free by us.

Still think it's nutty to carry 4 QB's.. Gabrial seems to be the better of the Rooks. After the first two preseason games, I thought Sanders had the lead. But after yesterday, Dillon seems more prepared.

Was Sanders feeling the effect of his injury. He didn't look good yesterday.

Anyone know of the rumor about Chubb being cut by the Texans is real?

I really like Larvadain. I think it’s between him and Carter. Carter was brought in to be our returner and I think we go with him. I think he will make it through waivers and be on our PS.

I agree about carrying four QBs.

I was listening to the radio this morning, one of the sports guys was saying he thinks they'll stick Pickett on the DL in a fashion where they can bring him back in 4 weeks. Not sure how that works. So they'll open up with 3 QB's Day One.

If the team is in good shape, no rush, if we are 0-4, changes will be coming. Again, no expansion on what those changes would/could be.

Wasn't Davis the guy that hauled in Two Sanders TD's in the Panthers game?

Anyway, it's really all going to shake out in the next week or so.

Gotta say, I sure as hell loved how the D played.


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I had him making the 53 for his special teams play.


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I expect us to be busy with the CB/LB spots


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I expect a couple trades or picking up some cut players yet especially at CB and LB. Who knows what is going to happen with Judkins or when it is going to happen. I look for the Browns to get a goal line short yardage back this week at the least until the future bell cow Judkins frustrating situation plays out. I don't think the Browns can afford to keep 4 QB's. I also think the FO see's this team closer to a 2013 team than what 2014 was. With that said the future franchise QB is not on this roster now. If the Browns can be closer to 2013 than 2014 they need a competent backup QB behind Flacco. That means Pickett has to be on this team. Sanders is a developmental QB that has potential but knowing the Browns are drafting their future franchise QB next draft I do not see a need to keep a developmental guy. I would trade him for whatever they can get for him. Gabriel will never be a starter in the NFL to limited for various reasons. But he can be a left-handed Colt McCoy and be a long term back up that will be needed next year behind the future franchise QB when both Flacco and Pickett are not here.


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The Cleveland Browns have made the following roster moves:

Contract terminated (4):

T Jackson Barton
CB Tony Brown II
QB Tyler Huntley
S Nik Needham

Waived (17):

CB Chigozie Anusiem
TE Sal Canella
G Javion Cohen
T Sebastian Gutierrez
DE K.J. Henry
DT Ralph Holley
CB Christian Holmes
CB Keenan Isaac
T Jason Ivey
DE Titus Le
LB Marvin Moody
CB Darius Rush
LB Charlie Thomas III
T Lorenzo Thompson
G Dartanyan Tinsley
TE Mitchell Van Vooren
C Bucky Williams


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Thanks, supe. Now we’ll see who they stash on the PS once waivers are cleared.
I’m thinking Cannela, the TE, might be a candidate.

Edit: might want to change that thought. He’s 28, but with Whiteheart dinged up we might need him.... for awhile.

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Cohen was on the bubble IMO


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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If it means either 4 TEs or 4 QBs, give me 4 QBs. At least until someone gets desperate enough to give us a 5th rounder for Pickett. IMO, both rookies played well enough to give us reason to keep them, why cut one just because you have two? They will develop, even as backups, these first couple of months and more evaluation can be done.At some point, I do think they will have an opportunity to trade Pickett. Starter experience goes a long way when you are desperate for a guy 3-5 games into the season. He’s better than a lot of backups in the league, so he will have some value in the coming weeks.

I didn’t like Sander's regression holding the ball too long yesterday, but I can look at game one and believe it could have more to do with the injury. If he doesn’t trust his body, he’ll second guess and the play gets away from you. I think he’s done enough though to keep him on the 53 as the emergency QB or game day no playlist.

QB being the most important position in sports, I’m ok with keeping 4 until you can trade Picket.

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I'm quietly wondering if we could be trying to trade Njoku. His contract is bigger, a little older, Fannin now in the fold, etc. I know it would be tough to NOT have him, but there's a reason we kept 4 TE


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Originally Posted by superbowldogg

...Who are we calling CB3 and CB4?


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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
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...Who are we calling CB3 and CB4?

That’s a good question. Harden must be one.


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yes Harden is the nickel I think


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I'm quietly wondering if we could be trying to trade Njoku. His contract is bigger, a little older, Fannin now in the fold, etc. I know it would be tough to NOT have him, but there's a reason we kept 4 TE

I hope not. Going back to when Flacco was here before, wasn't the Chief one of his best targets? I would think they want to duplicate that again.


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I think we keep Njoku unless the season goes to crap. Then we probably let him go the way of Cooper last year.

To me, it looks like Stefanski will try to work with more 12 personnel like he did in 2020.


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Fannin is going to be a huge piece to our offense. I actually might draft him in the last round of my keeper league because I think he's our future star TE


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Njoku is a big piece of our O not to mention a good guy to have in the locker room. We could get something decent in return for him but now isn't the time. If the season turns bad then I could see us trading him.

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