Tragic and already people want to make this political. Not political as in gun laws and discussions on what can be done to try to prevent or minimise this in the future, but instead it's MAGA versus the democrats. Just sad.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
"The name of President Trump written on the guns.".....How about writing saying to kill the President. Cowards not providing context to what else was written next to the name.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
But let's face it, if the shooter had been "anti Biden", or anti Barack, or anti democrat, there's a ton of you that would be ripping on R's, and Trump. That's just a fact.
I ain’t sinking down to that level arch and I ain’t arguing with you on this. Like I said, it’s awful whatever the situation. I hope we can sustainably have a conversation to prevent this. This is awful. My kids go to a Catholic school and went to Mass this morning. It crushes me.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
I would love to have a conversation about this, without the politics. Problem is, I don't have an answer. You can't even ban guns, because they're everywhere.
The guy had know mental issues. Yet he could still buy guns. You do the math, add it up. then let me know your answer.
I don’t want to ban guns. I’m a 2A guy. I do want to make a significant effort both in prevention in multiple forms and I do want to emphasize protection.
Our school responded to this incident by sending out an email to the parents. One nice thing about Ohio is that there was a grant for an action officer at our schools. Our kids have a cop from a local PD who is on the grounds the whole time while school is in session. They also changed the entrance to get into church and locked the other doors (from the outside) so that there would be limited access. The police officer is armed and present at drop off which is also monitored by the principal and teachers. There was a lot of thought out into it.
My kids’ school was also thankfully at the cutting edge of wearable communication. There is a clicking device and I’m going to mess it up, but o think one click means the teacher needs help, two clicks means that there is a potential health emergency and three clicks triggers a call to 911 and initiates a lockdown throughout the facility. All of this is in addition to the action officer on the scene as well.
My wife is also an executive at a mental health agency and is pretty well qualified in terms of her own credentials. They did a study and still found that the ability to identify and report mental health markers in problematic individuals is still a huge area of need. So I would look at significant investment in improving that as well.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
It’s included with public schools but private schools had to apply and jump through hoops. My wife was on the school commission and actually was the one who applied for it for our kids’ school. I think it may be covered as part of tuition now because I know the initial grant lasted for one year per school.
I emphasize that because today’s shooting was at such a school. I’m not sure how Minnesota operates on that front.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
Agree 100% with everything you said… I think every school should have at least one security officer… I think we should look at ways to close loop holes in our current laws like being able to buy a gun at a gun show or second hand without a background check….. and I think we need to make a huge investment in mental health…
This deranged individual should never have been able to get a gun… especially in a state like MN which has some of the tougher gun laws… and yet he had three guns that he used against kids… just sick…
Equally sick are the politicians who are using this to push their agenda rather than have a real conversation about things that could actually help… on both sides… I’ve seen people pushing their gun agenda and pushing their anti-trans agenda…. Ridiculous right now…. We need to do better…
But let's face it, if the shooter had been "anti Biden", or anti Barack, or anti democrat, there's a ton of you that would be ripping on R's, and Trump. That's just a fact.
There are crazies and extremisits on both sides - probably in about equal numbers. Paying attention and focusing on the crazies and acting as if they represent the majority is part of the problem. Accepting when posters do that and saying both sides do it does not help or alleviate the problem. There's a tradgedy and the first thing someone posts is about left/right politics. That's pretty extreme to me and pretty wrong and definately part of the problem. But then spamming of random twitter and FB accounts with anything politically devisive they can find seems to be some people's MO.
Personally I am in favor of never naming these individuals firstly. I am 100% in favor of doing more to keep guns out of the people's hands who have mental issues - that won't prevent gun ownership but if it made them slightly less easy for individuals to purchase/acquire even when they are 100% elligible I would not have any issue. Right to own a gun does not neccesarily translate into right to have it RIGHT NOW in my view. 2nd hand sales are an issue that needs a comprehensive review and action.
Lastly - the fact that there are nearly 400 million guns in the USA doesn't mean you don't try to make things better or reduce the chances of any sort of mass shootings being more frequent.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
I would love to have a conversation about this, without the politics. Problem is, I don't have an answer. You can't even ban guns, because they're everywhere.
The guy had know mental issues. Yet he could still buy guns. You do the math, add it up. then let me know your answer.
Simple answer.
Americsns need to vote out the extreme left and the extreme right and vote for more moderate candidates on both sides who can work together and compromise. You know just some plain good old fashion common sense. Until we do that those of us wondering around in between the nut jobs on both sides will suffer.
I would love to have a conversation about this, without the politics. Problem is, I don't have an answer. You can't even ban guns, because they're everywhere.
The guy had know mental issues. Yet he could still buy guns. You do the math, add it up. then let me know your answer.
Simple answer.
Americsns need to vote out the extreme left and the extreme right and vote for more moderate candidates on both sides who can work together and compromise. You know just some plain good old fashion common sense. Until we do that those of us wondering around in between the nut jobs on both sides will suffer.
You know I've been saying something like this for a long long time. Extremes from both sides are killing us.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
I agree with Jay on closing loopholes, Mgh on not naming the shooters, and GM on voting in better politicians.
I also you should have a license to own a gun. You need a license to hunt, to fish, to drive a car, why not to own a gun?
And you have various license categories. Just like my driver's license does not allow me to drive a semi truck. I need a special license
The Basic license - Hunting rifle's and basic hanndguns Part of the criteria to own is mental health screening Part is taking gun safety class Unclear how I feel about needing to demonstrate some kind of proficiency
Another license for more high powered guns This would include the AR-15 More intense screening I think you shold also have to provide reason why you need one of these
Collector license Sellers license
And I think we need to have people do a better job of keeping track of their guns. I think if you own a gun and it is used in a crime then you bear some of the responsibility There will be some exigent exceptions
You get a pass if it was stolen and reported stolen This is good for one episode If you get "robbed" multiple time that suggests to me that you are filing out fake reports to cover illegally selling our gun.
I also think we need to significantly increase the penalties for illegally selling a gun
Am I perfect? No Am I trying to be a better person? Also no
Paying attention and focusing on the crazies and acting as if they represent the majority is part of the problem. Accepting when posters do that and saying both sides do it does not help or alleviate the problem. There's a tradgedy and the first thing someone posts is about left/right politics. That's pretty extreme to me and pretty wrong and definately part of the problem. But then spamming of random twitter and FB accounts with anything politically devisive they can find seems to be some people's MO.
He wasn’t always like that. In fact, probably one of the better posters in this forum for a while, IMO. It goes to show what happens when you block everyone and reinforce yourself with a deluge of dopamine-intense extremism on one side. I’ve made attempts to bridge the divide to no avail. Seeing that hyper-focus approach still continue in a thread like this makes me think there is no hope on that front.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
For me it highlights and strengthens the need to moderate, regulate and hold SM accountable for what is posted there. No more and no less than say the printed media and radio. Both the platforms themselves - and what posters post.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
I ain’t sinking down to that level arch and I ain’t arguing with you on this. Like I said, it’s awful whatever the situation. I hope we can sustainably have a conversation to prevent this. This is awful. My kids go to a Catholic school and went to Mass this morning. It crushes me.
Look at when he showed up and look what he has to say. The math here isn't complicated.
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For me it highlights and strengthens the need to moderate, regulate and hold SM accountable for what is posted there. No more and no less than say the printed media and radio. Both the platforms themselves - and what posters post.
Social media is definitely a problem that transcends not just what you’re mentioning regarding media integrity, but also instances like this one with the shooter who can be extremized, not only for shootings like this, but also with people like the Tsarnaev brothers, J6 and all the crap we saw in 2020. It’s a huge issue.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
Paying attention and focusing on the crazies and acting as if they represent the majority is part of the problem. Accepting when posters do that and saying both sides do it does not help or alleviate the problem. There's a tradgedy and the first thing someone posts is about left/right politics. That's pretty extreme to me and pretty wrong and definately part of the problem. But then spamming of random twitter and FB accounts with anything politically devisive they can find seems to be some people's MO.
He wasn’t always like that. In fact, probably one of the better posters in this forum for a while, IMO. It goes to show what happens when you block everyone and reinforce yourself with a deluge of dopamine-intense extremism on one side. I’ve made attempts to bridge the divide to no avail. Seeing that hyper-focus approach still continue in a thread like this makes me think there is no hope on that front.
To read this -- in this forum -- is hilarious.
The post was showing the ongoing attempt to ignore facts and circumstances and paint a picture of something else. Saying Trump's name was mentioned when the three words were "kill Donald Trump" is insanely disingenuous. It's 100% meant to have numbskulls spread the news that he was a Trump supporter. You guys all know that and dance around the actual message by demeaning and killing the messenger. It's despicable. It would be sad if it weren't so predictable.
Here's some more, let's recenter our focus on white supremacists.
The fact that you guys can swallow all of this whole and blame a poster on DT for everything wrong with the world says everything we need to know about this section. HE didn't make this up, HE isn't pushing a narrative, HE isn't politicizing this -- the media is.
Note to refs: I probably need to be held accountable for posting that ^. You should probably suspend me so all of the important, unbiased messages in this forum can prevail. 😁
The fact that you guys can swallow all of this whole and blame a poster on DT for everything wrong with the world says everything we need to know about this section.
Do you mean like was done in the thread Lib city? Talk about hypocrisy.
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The fact that you guys can swallow all of this whole and blame a poster on DT for everything wrong with the world says everything we need to know about this section.
It also says everything you need to know about those posters, frankly.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Hey buddy. I’m not blaming him for everything going on in the world. I am concerned that I’ve made attempts to reach back to him multiple times to have a discussion, like I did with Keith in the other thread and arch in this one. He has shut us all out though.
So, while you’re here, let’s discuss, because I appreciate that you will do that. If They said “left-wing extremist” in this case, I can’t speak for everyone here, but I would not have had any issue with that whatsoever. On the flip side, with articles like the one you mentioned talking about anti-religious or anti-Semitic beliefs, that to me would speak of motive for the heinous acts they committed.
In this case, though, the emphasis on the kid being trans, or the hillbilly guy saying the media was about the make the shooting disappear, or the hyper focus on Trump I don’t think has much probative value as to the motive, other than the kid was bay poop crazy, and I don’t get why that has to be first thing we all need to prioritize. In his post, not one thing about the kids, not one discussion about solutions or the environment. Straight to “this will be forgotten and the media needs to mention the Trump writings.”
To try and frame it in an objective light, had the situation been reversed and it was “Death to [insert liberal politician]” on the gun, and the SM emphasis became about how they need to focus on that, rather than the kids, mental health, extremism as a whole, etc. I’d be equally as pissed off. Because, at the end of the day, there are going to be idiots and extremists under just about every banner, and the more we focus on those extremista and the. Try to extrapolate everything out to the wider population, the worse off we get. It already feels like we have veered way into the “Let me find a culprit on the side I don’t like, so I can say ‘Aha, there! See, this is what they are like’” dynamic. Kirk does it. Maddie does it. Hannity, Carlson, Scarborough, they all do it. And it PISSES me off to no end. In any event, the kids and families end up being pawns. Hell, look at all the ish with Sandy Hook. Despicable.
Anyhow, thanks for posting. Always hope you’re doing well. Hope to see you in Discord for some of the games.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
The fact that you guys can swallow all of this whole and blame a poster on DT for everything wrong with the world says everything we need to know about this section.
It also says everything you need to know about those posters, frankly.
I’ve given you chance after chance to have a civil discussion, especially in instances when you’ve asked for one. We had one going in this thread. Feel free to jump in at anytime, or keep ignoring. The choice is yours.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
So you're lashing out at a poster that trends more middle of the road (and is doing the same in this very thread) because he's not gravitating straight to "media is bad"... zeroing in on 1 statement he made in a much larger convo in order to ignore said larger convo and hold hands with a poster who's definition of debate is posting tweets from his echo chamber and then not backing anything up.
It's pure comedy because I damn sure can't take it seriously.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Just to help those struggling to keep up - no-one blamed the poster for anything, other than posting politically slanted social media posts about a tradgedy.
What then followed was how the poster is a SYMPTOM of one of our real world-wide problems. A real problem. A real symptom too. But don't let those facts get in the way of fake indignation and outrage and throwing toys out of prams.
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
Hey buddy. I’m not blaming him for everything going on in the world. I am concerned that I’ve made attempts to reach back to him multiple times to have a discussion, like I did with Keith in the other thread and arch in this one. He has shut us all out though.
So, while you’re here, let’s discuss, because I appreciate that you will do that. If They said “left-wing extremist” in this case, I can’t speak for everyone here, but I would not have had any issue with that whatsoever. On the flip side, with articles like the one you mentioned talking about anti-religious or anti-Semitic beliefs, that to me would speak of motive for the heinous acts they committed.
In this case, though, the emphasis on the kid being trans, or the hillbilly guy saying the media was about the make the shooting disappear, or the hyper focus on Trump I don’t think has much probative value as to the motive, other than the kid was bay poop crazy, and I don’t get why that has to be first thing we all need to prioritize. In his post, not one thing about the kids, not one discussion about solutions or the environment. Straight to “this will be forgotten and the media needs to mention the Trump writings.”
To try and frame it in an objective light, had the situation been reversed and it was “Death to [insert liberal politician]” on the gun, and the SM emphasis became about how they need to focus on that, rather than the kids, mental health, extremism as a whole, etc. I’d be equally as pissed off. Because, at the end of the day, there are going to be idiots and extremists under just about every banner, and the more we focus on those extremista and the. Try to extrapolate everything out to the wider population, the worse off we get. It already feels like we have veered way into the “Let me find a culprit on the side I don’t like, so I can say ‘Aha, there! See, this is what they are like’” dynamic. Kirk does it. Maddie does it. Hannity, Carlson, Scarborough, they all do it. And it PISSES me off to no end. In any event, the kids and families end up being pawns. Hell, look at all the ish with Sandy Hook. Despicable.
Anyhow, thanks for posting. Always hope you’re doing well. Hope to see you in Discord for some of the games.
I see the issue as this. There is a horrific tragedy with loss of kids lives. A school shooting that is sadly all too common.
While many/most people might see the headline of the thread about the shooting and think that there could be a disccussion about the event - loss of lives - how to prevent or reduce future such events. . . . what the original poster actually came here to do was highlight that apparently not every media outlet covered all the details that may or may not have been verified at the time of posting those articles: Namely what was missing was the fact that the individual was Trans - and that he had writen "Kill Donald Trump" and other vile things on his weapon.
Somehow and unsurprisingly it seems like an attempt to make some of the media on the same side as the crazy sick derranged killer. Personally I don't buy that - just like any vile act commited by an individual who may be a Trump supporter (or Pelosi hater) doesn't then represent or relate to Trump himself or Republicans in general. There's crazies on all sides - something I have often and always stated.
Anyway the disconnect then seems to be - or it looks to me as if some might want to talk about the shooting and how to try any all all avenues that might help reduce such events -- the others are here to talk exclusively about what the media did or did not say.
Personally I not only dislike posting this sick individuals name - a really despise and loath that people rushed to publicize his "manifesto" .... that stuff never needs to be made public. A summary by the police would be more than sufficient. If anyone believes that there isn't some other sicko in the USA who doesn't get excited seeing this guys name/manifesto/picture covering all the media, you are kidding yourself. No idea whether they will act on it - but why even throw that catnip out there. The posting and spreading of the manifesto and "hot news" reeks more of "CLICK ME CLICK ME" than it does of concern or wanting to help. That's true of any and all shock jock "journalism" - just worse when it's something like this.
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
The details hadn't been out long enough to be investigated beofre being reported. As you mentioned about his manifesto, what they failed to mention is that he had an obsession with former mass shooters. Giving them so much attention is certainly one of many ingredients that contributed to this tragedy. Also what was not mentioned is that much of that manifesto was written in Cyrillic script which would take much time to translate. I'm sure something the OP's sources did not do at the time it was posted.
My deepest condolences go out to these children and their families. Even those who were not shot or injured will carry these emotional scars with them for the rest of their life. Sadly the reality if the event is in no way political nor should be used as a weapon to avert attention away from the victims. Yet here we are.
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So you're lashing out at a poster that trends more middle of the road (and is doing the same in this very thread) because he's not gravitating straight to "media is bad"... zeroing in on 1 statement he made in a much larger convo in order to ignore said larger convo and hold hands with a poster who's definition of debate is posting tweets from his echo chamber and then not backing anything up.
It's pure comedy because I damn sure can't take it seriously.
Yes! That's what I'm doing. "Lashing out" and holding hands with Memphis!
I'm glad I went to lunch before deciding whether or not to participate here. 🤣 Back to your regularly scheduled circle-jerk.
Yes that far left liberal that oober is and all......
That's the problem. Even people that are moderates using common sense are now labeled as part of a "liberal circle jerk" by you and your kind. But lease do continue. You are only helping to prove my argument for me.
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It's been a while since we've agreed on anything... so there's that.
I do hope that you and the handful of others we've both mentioned before decide to start posting substantive discussion again vs whatever this is.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
First and foremost I want to say that I have great sympathy for those involved. These school shootings are very scary to me especially because my wife is a teacher. I have no answers to these type of things. I don’t know if anyone does.
Now might not be the time but it will come soon that we need to look at these shooters as a country. There has been a recent pattern that I find to and the fact that those in the media have been skirting around. That conversation can’t be because the last 6 or so shootings have been done by a certain community doesn’t make that whole community responsible. Also, we should not excuse those in the community of responsibility that may be radicalizing some of it’s members.
It’s included with public schools but private schools had to apply and jump through hoops. My wife was on the school commission and actually was the one who applied for it for our kids’ school. I think it may be covered as part of tuition now because I know the initial grant lasted for one year per school.
I emphasize that because today’s shooting was at such a school. I’m not sure how Minnesota operates on that front.
The sad thing is that private schools should get all the same protections as public. Those parents pay the same taxes as do the parents of those kids going to public school.
Private schools are doing public schools a big favor. If all the students going to private schools all of a sudden started going to public schools, those schools would be swamped.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Just a comment that will upset some, and I really don't mean to irritate people, but I'll say what some might not.
We have gun laws that do and should prevent the sale of guns to many groups of people and one is them to people who are mentally ill.
My feeling is all trans people are mentally ill. I don't mean that is a bad way or saying that with malice, but there is certainly something wrong with those people.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
My feeling is all trans people are mentally ill. I don't mean that is a bad way or saying that with malice, but there is certainly something wrong with those people.
Spoken with the assurance of someone who has never met or known anyone fitting this description.
It's your prerogative to have these opinions, but If you've never had someone in your life who is going through something like this, you speak the words of the ignorant.
I really don't mean to irritate people, but I'll say what some might not.
I know/have known 4 transfolk.
In all 4 cases, they are living the best years of their lives after transition... and they were able to do it through strength of character, commitment to who they truly were, and the unwavering support of those who know and love them.
If you haven't ever known someone like this,you don't know what you're talking about.
..and if you speak from a platform of total ignorance, you should at least have the character to acknowledge such in you opening statement. That would be something I could actually respect. Instead, you speak of "feelings." That tells us all that you don't have facts.
I speak from actual life experience.
These 4 people have better mental health now than when they they were pre-transition... and not one of them has written an unhinged manifesto, taken up arms, and sprayed bullets into a public place.
Sigmund Freud once famously said: "Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar." And sometimes, crazy is just crazy.
Those of us who can think critically can keep both thoughts in our heads at the same time, without conflating them. Can you be one of those, as well?
Recognized by whom? Sometimes one must dismiss the "feelings" of people who know little or nothing about things as just that. Nothing more than feelings.
And BTW- we also have a lack of laws that would prevent people such as this from legally buying guns. Many refer to it as "the gun show loophole". Any private citizen can sell a gun to any other person with no I.D. presented, no background check and no safeguards. The person could have just been released from prison yesterday for all they know.
I suppose I should rephrase that. The person purchasing the weapon isn't buying it legally. Nobody with a felony conviction can legally purchase a firearm. The person selling them the weapon can sell it to them legally if they have plausible deniability.
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Well yes your old white guy opinion is out of date and at least a couple decades out of touch. But there your opinions to hold onto and if you choose not to educate yourself thats fine. I mean you can probably find someone "medical" somewhere that agrees with you? I mean there are Hollacaust deniers out there. Alex Jones and others denied Sandy Hook. RFK dont believe in vaccination. Knock yourself out ..... A simple cut n paste ......
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+10 The scientific consensus is that being transgender is not a mental disorder. However, transgender and gender diverse people experience higher rates of mental health challenges like depression, anxiety, and suicidality compared to the cisgender population, which is primarily attributed to the negative impacts of societal stigma, discrimination, and marginalization, as explained by the Minority Stress Model. Recent umbrella reviews highlight consistent evidence of worse mental health outcomes and point to gaps in research on the well-being of transgender and gender-diverse individuals. Key Scientific Opinions & Findings Not a Mental Disorder: Leading organizations and scientific literature clarify that gender diversity itself is not a mental health problem. Minority Stress Model: The prevailing explanation for elevated mental health issues among transgender people is the Minority Stress Model. This model suggests that chronic stress from stigma, prejudice, and discrimination faced by transgender individuals contributes to poor mental health outcomes. Mental Health Challenges: Transgender and gender-diverse (TGD) individuals show higher prevalence rates of: Depression and anxiety Suicidal ideation and behavior Other conditions like PTSD, schizophrenia, and substance use disorders
The more things change the more they stay the same.
People that consider themselves trans need help not acceptance. They are mentally ill and are sexually perverse. There are only two genders male and female. To deny that is to deny real science.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
No, gender identity is not a mental illness; the distress that some transgender people experience from their gender identity not aligning with their assigned sex at birth is called gender dysphoria. Major health organizations have moved away from classifying being transgender as a mental disorder, and the purpose of the gender dysphoria diagnosis in the DSM-5 is to facilitate access to medical care, not to pathologize identity. Understanding the distinction:
Gender identity: is a person's internal sense of being male, female, both, or neither.
Gender dysphoria: is the psychological distress caused by the incongruence between a person's experienced gender and the gender they were assigned at birth. Being transgender: is not a mental illness or a disorder.
Why gender dysphoria is a diagnosis, not a mental illness:
Purpose of the diagnosis: The inclusion of gender dysphoria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) is to provide a framework for understanding and treating the distress associated with gender incongruence, ensuring that individuals can receive necessary medical care like hormone therapy or surgery.
Focus on distress: The diagnosis is on the distress or impairment caused by the incongruence, not on the gender identity itself. International shifts: The World Health Organization (WHO) reclassified the condition, removing it from the list of mental and behavioral disorders to the chapter on sexual health to reflect current knowledge that gender-diverse identities are not mental illnesses. Societal factors: The distress experienced by some transgender people can be linked to societal stigma, discrimination, and marginalization, in addition to the incongruence between their gender and assigned sex.
Gender dysphoria - NHS They do this by changing the way they look and behave. Some people with gender dysphoria, but not all, may want to use hormones an... NHS
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Well, that took about 3 seconds to search.,, You could have done this like I did, and then you wouldn't have posted something so damn wrong.,
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
When you leave out who a person is and try to act as though that doesn't matter we end up with what you claim answers the question.
When you leave one critical part of an equation out of the formula you will never come up with the correct answer.
I don't leave out anything. All people are xx or xy. That is science. To deny those facts are to live in pretend land like transies.
Not for nothing, but some people are XXY, some people are XYY and some people are just X. I don’t really think that should be the focus on this thread though.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
When you leave out who a person is and try to act as though that doesn't matter we end up with what you claim answers the question.
When you leave one critical part of an equation out of the formula you will never come up with the correct answer.
I don't leave out anything. All people are xx or xy. That is science. To deny those facts are to live in pretend land like transies.
Not for nothing, but some people are XXY, some people are XYY and some people are just X. I don’t really think that should be the focus on this thread though.
You haven't been following the bouncing ball. That's the right wings focus right now. To create yet another enemy. Or should I say give more focus to people they have already made an enemy of.
It's been their brand for some time now.
Pseudoscience is not science but that seems to be yet another theme they're focused on now.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
People that consider themselves trans need help not acceptance. They are mentally ill and are sexually perverse. There are only two genders male and female. To deny that is to deny real science.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
People that consider themselves trans need help not acceptance. They are mentally ill and are sexually perverse. There are only two genders male and female. To deny that is to deny real science.
Clearly, some folks think they know more than trained professionals.... Seems to be the theme of damn near all MAGA types.
No, being transgender is not considered a mental illness . In fact, the World Health Organization (WHO) and the American Psychiatric Association (APA) have both revised their classifications to reflect this understanding.
WHO: The World Health Organization no longer classifies being transgender as a mental disorder in its International Classification of Diseases (ICD-11). Instead, it uses the term "gender incongruence" and places it in a chapter on sexual health, recognizing that classifying it as a mental disorder caused significant stigma. APA: The American Psychiatric Association (APA) also doesn't consider being transgender a mental illness. The DSM-5-TR, their diagnostic manual, includes a diagnosis of "gender dysphoria," which refers to the distress some transgender individuals experience due to the incongruence between their assigned sex at birth and their gender identity. It is important to note that gender dysphoria is a diagnosis for the distress, not the gender identity itself.
In essence, major medical and psychological organizations acknowledge that being transgender is a matter of gender identity and not a mental disorder.
Who cares what the WHO has to say. They miss informed everyone about covid and should have no say what we do in the US. Those people are sick and need help. It is a mental illness that has caused people to be sexual deviants.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
Dr. Dawg has spoken. His vast medical expertise gives him the education and knowledge that should supersede both the WHO and The American Psychiatric Association. Evidence and proof mean nothing to him. Trump University it appears has taught him everything he needs to know.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Who cares what the WHO has to say. They miss informed everyone about covid and should have no say what we do in the US. Those people are sick and need help. It is a mental illness that has caused people to be sexual deviants.
What the hell are you speaking of... Misinformed about Covid. I have family that DIED from that stuff... What are you saying, who misinformed us. I wanna know and I want FACTS, not this crap that RFK Jr is spewing.
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Who cares what the WHO has to say. They miss informed everyone about covid and should have no say what we do in the US. Those people are sick and need help. It is a mental illness that has caused people to be sexual deviants.
What the hell are you speaking of... Misinformed about Covid. I have family that DIED from that stuff... What are you saying, who misinformed us. I wanna know and I want FACTS, not this crap that RFK Jr is spewing.
I trust RFK Jr over any of the lies spread since covid. I don't think any families were immune to people dying of covid. The political fighting over how to treat covid was terrible. I have family members that are in the medical field and found success with some patients with certain treatments then because a certain political figure would announce some success found in that treatment and then the federal government would say that treatment does not work and not allow hospitals to use that treatment on their patients. That was wrong. Also, people would have covid and die in a car accident but since they had covid they would count it as a covid death because the federal government would send hospitals more money. Bottom line is the country should have never locked down /shutdown. People should have been treated. I know when I caught covid the DR told me good luck when I asked what treatments were next. Once I survived the two week period they then treated the severe cough. At that time, I stopped trusting the medical field and knew the vaccines were useless. Good luck is all they had. Actually, that is all they were allowed to do. Dr Fauci is a criminal in my view and should be held accountable for many deaths that could have been prevented. The other criminals were the governors that put covid patients in nursing homes. They are murders plain and simple. I suppose that is not enough evidence because you trust those that made the problem worse.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
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