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On the plus side, Jacksonville lost and Travis was a non-factor with only 2 catches. The Steelers are good for something after all =P

Chub is still looking good as he ran for more yards alone than our entire offense ... so good for Chub!!!

Ummmm, Jacksonville didn't lose - they defeated the Panthers 26-10. Also, Hunter had 6 catches for 33 yards while Chubb had 13 carries for 60 yds & Houston as a whole with 27 carries for 114 yds with 2 receptions for 17 yds from the RB position. The Browns had 24 carries for 49 yds and a TD but also had receiving yds of 61 on 9 receptions from their RB's. So yes, Chubb had a pretty fair game for him. Ummm, the Steelers beat the Jets.

maybe this post/text was supposed to be in purple

Someone missed my tongue in cheek ... how could there obviously be good news for the Browns. Chub doing good is just an embarrassment to the Browns since he wanted to play for us.

Something good would be Jutkins not getting a suspension so we have a running game again ... maybe ... since who knows now since the Browns didn't sign him in time for him to attend training camp ...

Letting Chubb sign elsewhere while taking the discount on Ford isn't getting the attention it deserves only because the word on Chubb was that he'd lost his burst.

I think the question at the end of the season will be... is Judkins better than Chubb?

Chubb gaining 60 yards on 13 carries with a long of 13 isn't special. It's very normal. I think that was the FO's fear since Chubb is 2 years removed from injury.

I agree with the crux of your argument; however, I believe it was Ford taking the pay cut that had them decide to let Chubb move on. I think Flacco throwing the ball as many times as he did has a lot to do with us not having that workhorse back currently on the roster.

Unless Chubb works his way back to near where he was at pre-injury, I feel like this is just arguing for the sake of arguing, but retaining Ford over Chubb was a mistake (albeit probably small) for the roster.

If you isolate it to keeping Ford over Chubb I would agree. But I don't think for a moment that was the plan for the RB position. I think they knew all along they would be drafting a replacement for Chubb.

I disagree that is still 4.6 yards per carry. If he had 20 carries he is over 90 yards and pushing a 100 yard game. 2nd and 6 or 3rd and 2 are downs a distance that keeps offenses on track. The fact Judkins was not under center week 1 and no Chubb is on Andrew Berry. Chubb would have provided value for Judkins to learn behind and provide a running back that could keep the offense on track down and distance that the Browns did not have Sunday.

Learn behind?

You mean like how Huey told Chubb to sit and "learn behind" Carlos Hyde?

I’m still mad about that. I don’t think that’s a position where there is much “learning.” Either you have it or you don’t.

4.6 would be Chubb's worst average of his career outside of last year when he clearly wasn't fully healthy and the OL played rather poorly.

If Chubb had 20 carries, there's a chance that number goes down. He had plenty of carries for 3 yards or less. 13 isn't really a big sample size.

Sampson did just fine keeping the offense on track. He was PFFs 5th best rated RB in week 1. (Chubb in the 20s) Admittedly, it was more through the air, but whatever works.

The Texans scored even fewer points than we did, and that's with their kicker making his FGs (all 45+ yards.)

RB was not our problem.

6 bad plays, none of which involved the RB, were why we lost. 2 WRs popping up passes perfectly for DBs, 2 missed kicks, Diabate biting on a play fake on Fant's TD, and Cam Thomas losing backside contain borderline horrifically on Chase Brown's cutback TD.

4.6 by Chubb would have been a lot better than the putrid 3.0 that our nonexistent running game put up. Samson had a high rating for his great job in catching so many dink and dunk passes and turning them into something better. Samson did not run well at all at 2.42 ypc and he was given plenty of chances. IMHO he is just too small and weak to break through nfl tackles. He has some nice hands though. Would be nice if Judkins is ready to play against the Ravens but no way he will know enough of the playbook since the Browns took forever to sign him.