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We need to get some studs at OL and secondary in the next draft

I only had radio for the game today.

Our announcers harped really hard on the defense that both Baltimore and Cinci were playing on us. Basically, until we can establish a run game, our offense is going to be solely dink-dunk-punt. I think the short game doing what little it has so far is actually somewhat impressive, but the long ball won't be there until we get teams to fear our run game again.

Still a ton of time in the season, but Tillman isn't doing what he needs to in order to solidify his hold on the #2 spot. He's gotta be a reliable pair of hands and figure out how to get more consistent separation. It was said a bunch of the broadcast that Flacco didn't have guys getting open. Jeudy didn't have a great game, either.

I'm surprised they had Judkins going today. I thought they'd give him a full week of practice before playing for real.

It's crazy (to me) how fast a position of strength can turn into a weakness. Schwartz has some work to do because not being able to handle Ward being out is a recipe for disaster. We already knew that the D would have to carry this team. I gotta tip my hat to the people harping on secondary depth... I see what you mean. Similarly, the O-line doesn't seem to be getting its shine back with the switch back to their preferred blocking scheme. Our tackle depth is very troubling.

Szmyt played a clean game. Good for him. For all the hype on getting Bubba Ventrone here, the overall performance of the ST unit has been mediocre at best.


Dillon Gabriel looked cool/competent again throwing against an NFL defense. I know it was garbage time and I am NOT advocating for him to take over, but I think it's positive that, aside from a couple obvious mistakes, the game doesn't look too big for him. If the next 4 games the way I think they will, I wouldn't mind seeing Gabriel in some extended action.

As positive as it is seeing the young guys (Schwesinger, Gabriel, Fannon, Sampson) playing well, the poor play of our Oline is VERY concerning.

so the draft watch begins ... NY and MIA probably will go QB. As will NO

It’s far too early to think about the draft

Love Bitonio and what he's done for us but unfortunately he is washed and so is the entire line.

Conklin, I'm so tired of him always missing games, just get rid of him please.

What used to be a strength with our OL quickness and power is a big liability

You know it's a new Browns season when everyone is calling for a QB change by Week 3.

Flacco looking like he's plodding through a knee deep pool of hummus doesn't help the OL either. The defense can just bring pressure all day knowing the geriatric QB can't move.

I'd like to the to petition the NFL that Flacco be allowed to use a Rascal scooter on those bootlegs.

What's the role of the "new" Offensive coordinator? Same role as the last one?

Like I have been saying we dont have any threats at wr. Noone that has to be game planned against and noone that can consistently get deep

Maybe not, but doing nothing doesn't change anything either.

And yet folks want to say Berry is doing a good job as GM and that this roster that he has built is good and only missing a QB. I just don't see how any Brown's fan doesn't look at this collection of talent and feel like we're short in too many places and chronically bad behind our starters. Nearly every pre-season article I read menetioned an aging and fragile OL ... and yet ...

Gabriel better NOT see much time vs GB - they have a very good D. They held Detroit, who just put up 52 to on CHI, to 13 points ... let's not ruin him just yet.

It was not fun to watch - Judkins with no preseason and Fannin really the lone bright spots other than the DL. I mentioned last week how slow Joe F is when a play doesn't go according to script - he was even more exposed today.

And I agree the O is struggling without the deep threat - it's hard to call a deep pass if the OL isn't that crash hot and the QB can't extend the play for even a moment or two ... and with a lack of mobility roll outs which could buy some time, are not an option.

My concern is we need to find a W - and Vikings, Dolphins and Patriots might be our best chance in the first 8 weeks - and none of those are games will be favourites for. It's not easy to be optimistic or even maintain a 'no expectations' perspective.

When a GM has no idea what’s he’s doing then this’s what you get.

See previous answer. Without a long term plan executed by competent leaders nothin will change. When will all his defenders realize that?


With an incompetent GM and a mediocre HC then this’s what you get. Results tells you the reality.

Trading Myles isn’t ideal but what’s the alternative?


This’s the result of several seasons of mismanagement.
Quick fixes instead of a long term strategy.

It started almost immediately after Baker got hurt. Lack of patience, not enough belief in trusting the process, inability of creating a honest and loyal environment. From hunting Baker out of town to discrediting Shedeur. There’s a visible and clear pattern in the lack of leadership, the incompetence and the behavior that create all the drama and why the organization doesn’t have the ability to evolve in a positive way. .

Berry is fighting for his job. Those who’re now trying to defend him are probably emotionally blocked from reality.
Stefanski is neither good or bad but isn’t it obvious that he doesn’t have the passion, the drive or the ability to turn this around right now.
It’s sad and it sucks.

The game went about as expected. Browns just can't stop a team with this much offensive power. Our special teams made some bad mistakes. The Ravens defense kept getting to Flacco way too easy and that caused some bad plays but that wasn't really unexpected when you look at the age of our OL. I felt the game was enjoyable enough to watch for the first 3 quarters but then everything collapsed.

This game shows to me we need a true number 1 WR who is big and physical. We also need to draft a stud CB because we are getting old and broken at this position. We also need some young studs of offensive line. I honestly think we need to take care of those before we draft a QB with a high 1st round draft pick. Let our rookies this year fight it out next year.

On the plus side Fannon looks like a legit monster out there! Judkins looks legit too. It was nice to see him break away like a freight train and that big run. Our D-line was making some hellacious pass rush pressure but what can you do when the QB can throw crazy passes and they have stud wrs who can come up with it anyways. Baltimore has some hellacious WRs. We shut Derrick Henry DOWN!!! In fact, we shut their running game down period but they had lamar so they just didn't need to run it much but still find the good where you can.

Yet again, Lamar is just unstoppable. I expected it so it doesn't frustrate me that much. I was glad DG got to play some at the end when the game fell out of reach. I love that Joe was trying to tackle when he threw that interception. Poor guy wanted to win so bad.

from my perspective about the WRs, Jeudy is a solid #2 guy, Tillman seems to be too inconsistent and we are forcing Bond/Thrash when they are not ready or capable of being reliable guys. We can't push the ball down the field at all and can't manipulate the pocket because of Flacco's lack of mobility. That's a bad recipe

Yuk!