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The founding fathers used the Magna Carta with which to found the constitution on. They were so against infusing religion upon the masses they made sure to include that no law should be passed based on any religion. That includes yours. That's why people like yourself wishing to inflict your religious beliefs into law have no understanding of the constitution.

This nation was neither founded on nor endorses your religion. So you think killing the first born of every Egyptian family is "good and right"? Or that starting civilization based on incense not just once, but twice (Adam and Eve, Noah's family is good and right? I thought you believed incense is a sin?

Or maybe, just maybe, God didn't include everything but what he wanted you to know in the Bible?

Sorry you are wrong. They wanted freedom from government organized religion like the Chruch of England and yes, they founded the constitution on biblical principles. There are books after books with founding father references to chapter and verse. The laws of the land came straight out of the laws of Moses. The three branches of government idea came from the book of Isaiah where in 33:22 it was written the Lord is my Judge, the Lord is my lawgiver, and the Lord is my King. They reference this verse when they created the judicial branch, the legislative branch, and the executive branch. Look it up. James Madison used that verse to come up with that idea.


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There no no references to Christianity, the Bible or Bible verses in the constitution. The Constitution does not contain the words "God," "Jesus Christ," or "Christianity".

In fact, once again, the only mention of religion in the constitution is that no law be created based on any religion. Not even your own. The fact of the matter is the only words about religion in the constitution states that your religion has no more power than any other religion.

Freedom of religion exists for all religions which means to the founding fathers your religion means no more to them than the Mormons, The Jews. the Muslims. Hidu's or anyone else for that matter.

You may wish to read that constitution again to help clear up your confusion.


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Sorry you are wrong. They wanted freedom from government organized religion like the Chruch of England and yes, they founded the constitution on biblical principles. There are books after books with founding father references to chapter and verse. The laws of the land came straight out of the laws of Moses. The three branches of government idea came from the book of Isaiah where in 33:22 it was written the Lord is my Judge, the Lord is my lawgiver, and the Lord is my King. They reference this verse when they created the judicial branch, the legislative branch, and the executive branch. Look it up. James Madison used that verse to come up with that idea.

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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
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So then by your logic we should ban guns from people that are gay and lesbian too? I mean that's not your version of what "normal" is.

You may wish to try and educate yourself rather than spew the company line.......

Beyond Just XX or XY: The Complexities of Biological Sex

https://www.visiblebody.com/blog/beyond-just-xx-or-xy-the-complexities-of-biological-sex

I do not need someone's theory over truth. Truth is xx xy and God created them Male and Female. Two points of truth.

Are you arguing via science or the Bible? You look like you're just arguing for the sake of arguing when you flip back and forth on a whim.

Science says all people have either xx or xy chromosomes. Which means male or female. The Bible also states God made them Male and Female. Both are truths. Science when applied logically will always prove the Bible correct. God created everything so all science in the absolute proves the Bible. Man created theories are usually tainted with their own personal bias.

What if parts of the Bible are actually man created theories? There are definitely some parts that feel tainted with bias. Maybe the writers theorized (or even hallucinated) that the words were "God-breathed." What is your evidence?

Is your theory that the Bible is true tainted by your bias?


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Originally Posted by BADdog
Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
So then by your logic we should ban guns from people that are gay and lesbian too? I mean that's not your version of what "normal" is.

You may wish to try and educate yourself rather than spew the company line.......

Beyond Just XX or XY: The Complexities of Biological Sex

https://www.visiblebody.com/blog/beyond-just-xx-or-xy-the-complexities-of-biological-sex

I do not need someone's theory over truth. Truth is xx xy and God created them Male and Female. Two points of truth.

You do know there are people with both male and female genitalia. That is a truth. If the genitalia can get mixed up maybe the brain has xx or xy characteristics that get mixed up that is different from there genitalia, also truth.


It is biologically impossible for both to work only one of the two (or none) will fully function. In fact, people who are intersex still have a sex.

Sex is almost always defined as either female or male by the health care providers who help people give birth. The decision is most often based on the appearance of your genitals – whether it looks like you have a penis or a vagina. If testing is done, sex may also be defined by hormone levels, chromosomes, and reproductive anatomy, like having ovaries or testicles.


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My point is there are many grey areas and everyone should stop acting like its black and white.


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Science says all people have either xx or xy chromosomes.

No it doesn't.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/differences-in-sex-development/

Go a little less than halfway down to read about the variations from XX and XY.


If you're trolling and just trying to get a rise out of everyone, then bravo and I tip my hat to you.

If not.... I'll just point out that this was an incredibly easy/quick Google search... and also something that was touched on in like 8th grade biology class. You are entitled to your opinion, but not to randomly rewrite long-established scientific fact merely because it inconveniently contradicts your own personal worldview.

And along those lines... I guess it shouldn't be a surprise we find our society in the state it's in right now when we can't have a discussion without someone coming in saying up is down and anyone who disagrees is the devil.


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