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Says the leader of fake news and the trump brigade. lol… you Goper’s crack me up.


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Says the leader of fake news and the trump brigade. lol… you Goper’s crack me up.

Show me where I spew fake news. Receipts please.


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Typical political discourse. Attack the individual instead of admitting they have a point. No wonder the country is where it is.

Wonder where we all picked that up at. This [censored] starts at the top.

It starts at the bottom with what people on both sides allow and/or excuse. Trump is just taking advantage of the prevailing attitudes.

That's BS


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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
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Typical political discourse. Attack the individual instead of admitting they have a point. No wonder the country is where it is.

Wonder where we all picked that up at. This [censored] starts at the top.

It starts at the bottom with what people on both sides allow and/or excuse. Trump is just taking advantage of the prevailing attitudes.

That's BS

The hate was always there. Always. But it was Surpressed until Trump made it ok to let it out.. This is 100% on Trump....


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I was Surpressed he let it all get out of hand so bardly.

But yur right, this is all 100% on Trump. And the drought too, all Trump. Doesn't believe in global warning? This is the price we pay for it.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
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Typical political discourse. Attack the individual instead of admitting they have a point. No wonder the country is where it is.

Wonder where we all picked that up at. This [censored] starts at the top.

It starts at the bottom with what people on both sides allow and/or excuse. Trump is just taking advantage of the prevailing attitudes.

That's BS

The hate was always there. Always. But it was Surpressed until Trump made it ok to let it out.. This is 100% on Trump....

Trump didn't make it okay. He wasn't the first. He signed no executive order. It's on everyone that lets hate out or excuses those that let hate out. If "the people" collectively hadn't voted for him, twice, he'd have no power.

Hate is still not okay. This using Trump as an excuse to spew hate is BS. (On both sides)

People have their own brains. People make their own choices. People decide what they feel is acceptable. Sadly, a lot of people accept a lot of BS.

Blaming a boogie man and holding no one else accountable for their actions is BS.


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Still trying to frame this as one side is right the other wrong. smh. Also from AI

Key Polling Data
YouGov/Economist Poll (2022): This poll found that 58% of Republicans believe the Democratic Party is "a party of socialism." While "socialism" and "communism" are distinct, in modern American political rhetoric they are often used interchangeably by those on the right to describe a far-left, authoritarian, and anti-capitalist ideology.

Pew Research Center (2021): Pew found that a majority of Republicans (57%) believe the Democratic Party is "too liberal," but more tellingly, a significant portion uses more extreme labels. Many conservative media figures and politicians routinely describe Democratic policies as "socialist" or "Marxist."

The Specific "Communist" Label: While harder to find a direct percentage for "communist," a Reuters/Ipsos poll from 2021 found that a majority of Republicans (52%) agreed with the statement that Democrats are "a threat to the American way of life." This aligns with the broader narrative that Democrats are not just a political opposition but an existential, un-American threat—a sentiment deeply connected to the "communist" or "socialist" label.


So, basically, the amount of Republicans that think the Dems are basically a "party of socialism" is roughly equal to the percentage of Democrats that think the president should be assassinated.

Thanks for doing all the tough research... tell us more!

This isn't hard, I really thought anyone would realize that the claim in that statement wasn't true -- but I see that you are part of the problem. Even though it was a FAKE claim that 55% of Democrats feel as if assinating Trump would be "somewhat justified" - you took it to "Should be assisinated" I guess you interpret things how you want. Like calling people Fascist means they are calling for blood but calling them communist and Un-American is cool and groovy. But let me help you (from AI cut and paste):



The Short Answer
The claim is false and based on a severe misreading of a flawed study. The actual study from Rutgers never asked about assassinating Donald Trump, and it did not find that 55% of left-leaning Americans believe such an act is justified.

The claim originated from a mislabeled chart in a report and was subsequently amplified by bad-faith actors and media outlets to create a viral false narrative.

Detailed Context and Breakdown
1. The Origin: The Rutgers Study
The claim stems from a study published in June 2024 by the School of Public Affairs and Administration at Rutgers University-Newark, titled “Domestic Political Violence: Dangerous Narratives and Counter-Narratives.”

The Actual Question: The study did not ask about assassinating Trump. The relevant question was about the justification of political violence in a much more general and abstract sense. It was worded as follows:

“How much do you feel that the use of force is justified to prevent [the other party] from achieving their goals?”

The Mislabeled Chart: The error originated in Figure 5 of the report. The chart's label incorrectly stated: “Percent who agree that the use of force is justified to prevent the other party's leader from becoming president.” This mislabeling is what sparked the entire controversy.

The Correction: The authors quickly acknowledged this was a labeling error. The chart was actually displaying the answers to the general question above ("preventing their goals"), not a question about preventing a leader from becoming president. The report was corrected, and a note was added to clarify the mistake.

2. Where the "55%" Figure Actually Comes From
Even with the corrected label, the 55% figure is misrepresented.

The study found that when asked if using force is justified "to prevent the other party from achieving their goals," 55% of respondents on the left (Democrats/liberals) said it was "at least a little justified."

This is a far cry from advocating for assassination. The phrase "at least a little justified" to achieve a broad political goal is vague and encompasses a wide range of interpretations, from civil disobedience to violent acts. It does not specifically endorse or justify the assassination of a political figure.

3. The "Assassination" Angle is Fabricated
The leap from the study's actual question to the specific claim about "assassinating Trump" was made entirely by external actors, not the study's authors.

Bad-Faith Amplification: Right-wing media figures, commentators, and social media accounts seized on the mislabeled chart. They ignored the correction and deliberately conflated the idea of "using force to prevent goals" with the specific, horrific act of assassinating a former president.

Political Motivations: This misrepresentation was used to paint political opponents as violently unhinged and to create a narrative of victimhood and moral superiority. It is a classic example of disinformation—false information spread deliberately to deceive.

4. Broader Context of the Study
The Rutgers study was actually about the rising risk of political violence in general. Its key findings, which were largely ignored in the viral frenzy, included:

Similar levels of ambivalence toward political violence were found on both the left and the right.

The study focused on how narratives and counter-narratives can incite or prevent violence.

It was designed to understand the problem, not to assign blame to one political side.

Conclusion
To summarize:

False Premise: The Rutgers study never asked about assassinating Donald Trump.

Mislabeled Data: The "55%" figure came from a chart that was initially mislabeled and then corrected.

Misinterpreted Meaning: The actual question was about the abstract justification of "force" to prevent a party's goals, a much broader and vaguer concept than political assassination.

Deliberate Disinformation: The specific "assassination" claim was invented and spread by partisan actors to create a false and inflammatory narrative.

The truth is that the claim is a complete distortion of an academic study, fueled by a labeling error and amplified for political gain. It is not a reflection of the beliefs of any significant portion of the American public.

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A similar search on specific quotes for Trump calling Democrats and the Left Treasonous will also yeild you plenty of results. Maybe you missed them all idk. But I remember several of them.

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Ooookay.

55% believe using violence to stop politicians from politicking is okay.

Plus, you remember other stuff that makes the other side bad.

This changes everything, thanks.


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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
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Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
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Typical political discourse. Attack the individual instead of admitting they have a point. No wonder the country is where it is.

Wonder where we all picked that up at. This [censored] starts at the top.

It starts at the bottom with what people on both sides allow and/or excuse. Trump is just taking advantage of the prevailing attitudes.

That's BS

The hate was always there. Always. But it was Surpressed until Trump made it ok to let it out.. This is 100% on Trump....

Trump didn't make it okay. He wasn't the first. He signed no executive order. It's on everyone that lets hate out or excuses those that let hate out. If "the people" collectively hadn't voted for him, twice, he'd have no power.

Hate is still not okay. This using Trump as an excuse to spew hate is BS. (On both sides)

People have their own brains. People make their own choices. People decide what they feel is acceptable. Sadly, a lot of people accept a lot of BS.

Blaming a boogie man and holding no one else accountable for their actions is BS.

We disagree, he's the guy that made it OK to be anti Democracy

Then again, I don't know what I expected, He is the one that said Smart People don't like him!

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Originally Posted by FATE
Ooookay.

55% believe using violence to stop politicians from politicking is okay.

Plus, you remember other stuff that makes the other side bad.

This changes everything, thanks.

I detect sarcasm but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

No that's not what it really said - the question was abiguous, and talked about if something might be justifiable. That in itslef is miles away from advocating for, miles away from "supporting" or even being "okay" with it. But that's a nuance. You either accept or you don't. Add to that - this wasn't a Left vs Right thing. It wasn't this is what the Democrats answered and here's a seperate % for the Republicans and how they answered. . . this was across ALL parties and demographics. It's right there in the conclusion: == Similar levels of ambivalence toward political violence were found on both the left and the right. == It was designed to understand the problem, not to assign blame to one political side. == The specific "assassination" claim was invented and spread by partisan actors to create a false and inflammatory narrative.

Talking of false narratives and spreading fake news - we had the same person who supplied the claim that $50M of US funding was earmarked for Condoms for Hamas. . . . we never heard an acceptance from that poster that they had spread lies. This new post is from the same poster - it also contains lies and fake news. What is the betting we get an acknowledgement that they've accidently spread bile and misinformation?


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rofl So dumb....


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rofl So dumb....
What is? Posting misinformation and never coming back to own the mistake?


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j/c...

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