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I would have used the phrasing "in poor taste"

I think any joke about anyone's death (or rape, or any number of things) is in poor taste
I think using anyone's death (or rape, or any number of things) for political gain is in poor taste

I can certainly think of many things I would consider sicker, more disgusting than what Kimmel said
Both words and actions


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I have been asking since page 4 of this thread:


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The ABC late-night host’s remarks constituted “the sickest conduct possible,” FCC chair Brendan Carr told right-wing podcaster Benny Johnson on Wednesday.

Can someone please tell me what Kimmel said that was so egregious?
I finally got a chance to watch the clip. All I saw was Kimmel making fun of trump's response to a question about Kirk.

You obviously saw this as you referred to my comment about Kimmel making fun of trump's response to a question about Kirk.
I was always better in math class than english class but I am pretty sure: "Can someone please tell me what Kimmel said that was so egregious?" constitutes a question.

I answered you. You responded that you don't think that should have elicited the reaction from Carr. I don't know what you want from me.

I'm not Carr.
I'm not related.
I've never met him.
I don't have any special access.

And finally, I'm not your monkey. You can like or not like anything you want, just don't sit here thinking someone owes you an explanation for the action of others. You tried to imply that I was outraged and mad, when I never made any post that would even indicate that.

Kimmel lied about the situation, implied that Trump didn't really care, and basically compared Kirk to a goldfish. Seems pretty insensitive to me. Have you kept track of any of the things people have been fired or cancelled for over the last five years or so? Apparently not.


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Here's the bottom line: Some people are more worked up about a person losing a job over something he said than they are about a person losing their life about something he said. Says a lot.

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This world has seemed soooo inside-out lately.


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Originally Posted by FATE
Originally Posted by Jester
I have been asking since page 4 of this thread:


Originally Posted by Jester
The ABC late-night host’s remarks constituted “the sickest conduct possible,” FCC chair Brendan Carr told right-wing podcaster Benny Johnson on Wednesday.

Can someone please tell me what Kimmel said that was so egregious?
I finally got a chance to watch the clip. All I saw was Kimmel making fun of trump's response to a question about Kirk.

You obviously saw this as you referred to my comment about Kimmel making fun of trump's response to a question about Kirk.
I was always better in math class than english class but I am pretty sure: "Can someone please tell me what Kimmel said that was so egregious?" constitutes a question.

I answered you. You responded that you don't think that should have elicited the reaction from Carr. I don't know what you want from me.

I'm not Carr.
I'm not related.
I've never met him.
I don't have any special access.

And finally, I'm not your monkey. You can like or not like anything you want, just don't sit here thinking someone owes you an explanation for the action of others. You tried to imply that I was outraged and mad, when I never made any post that would even indicate that.

Kimmel lied about the situation, implied that Trump didn't really care, and basically compared Kirk to a goldfish. Seems pretty insensitive to me. Have you kept track of any of the things people have been fired or cancelled for over the last five years or so? Apparently not.



I initially asked for someone to exeplain what Kimmel said that was so egregious.
I wanted to know why so many people are upset/offended
You are the one who chose to chime in.
And now we are full circle that what was so offensive is that he made fun of trump's response

I agree that using Kirk's death for humor is insensitive
But again, insensitive is a long way from sickest conduct possible

I didin't get any goldfish somparison, but that would be offensive

I know others have been cancelled/fired but no I have not kept track
I don't know how that is relavent to my original question, but IMO, the more often it happens, the bigger problem it is


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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Here's the bottom line: Some people are more worked up about a person losing a job over something he said than they are about a person losing their life about something he said. Says a lot.

1, I think many people on this bord are complex enough to be able to understand that there are 2 separate issues (though in the current situation intertwined) here and be able to discuss them both

2, I am pretty sure more than one person in the history of this country gave their lives for our right to express our opinions without fear of persecution by the govenment. And frankly, I find the way you mockingly try to diminish and cheapen their sacrifice somewhat offensive.


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‘Dangerous as hell’: Ted Cruz compares FCC chair’s threats against ABC to mob tactics
Michael Williams, CNN
Fri, September 19, 2025 at 5:28 PM EDT

GOP Sen. Ted Cruz on Friday denounced Federal Communications Commission Chairman Brendan Carr’s threats to pull ABC’s broadcast license as “unbelievably dangerous” and compared some of his rhetoric to “mafioso” tactics.

In an episode of his podcast, “Verdict with Ted Cruz,” released on Friday, the Texas Republican said he was “thrilled” Jimmy Kimmel was pulled off the air by ABC over his comments about conservative influencer Charlie Kirk. But he said he strongly disagreed with the government policing speech, asserting it could come back to bite conservatives when Democrats retake power.

“I hate what Jimmy Kimmel said. I am thrilled that he was fired,” Cruz said. “But let me tell you: If the government gets in the business of saying, ‘We don’t like what you, the media, have said. We’re going to ban you from the airwaves if you don’t say what we like,’ that will end up bad for conservatives.”

Though Carr’s comments have drawn widespread condemnation on the left, Cruz’s remarks represent one of the strongest denunciations of the threats against broadcasters by an elected conservative. Cruz also chairs the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, which has broad authority over the FCC.

“Going down this road, there will come a time when a Democrat wins again – wins the White House … they will silence us. They will use this power, and they will use it ruthlessly. And that is dangerous,” Cruz said.

Asked later by reporters on Capitol Hill if the Commerce Committee will hold hearings into the matter or investigate Carr if he continues in the same vein, Cruz left the door open to the possibility.

“There’s no doubt the Commerce Committee has oversight, authority and responsibility over the FCC, and when the Democrats had the majority, they did not engage in oversight … We will do our job and engage in oversight.”

President Donald Trump has also vaguely threatened to pull networks’ licenses if they air overwhelmingly negative coverage of him, though Cruz did not rebut the president’s remarks directly on the podcast.

Trump offered praise for Carr when pressed on the scathing remarks from the Texas Republican. “I think Brendan Carr is a great American patriot. So I disagree with Ted Cruz on that,” he said.

The president also continued to lament what he described as “dishonesty” from network broadcasts that are critical of him.

Cruz played recent remarks Carr made on far-right podcaster Benny Johnson’s podcast, in which the FCC chairman threatened to take action against broadcasters who don’t “find ways to change conduct” the government considers disagreeable.

“I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way,” Carr said. “These companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or you know, there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.” ABC pulled Kimmel’s show off the air indefinitely the day after Carr made those comments.

Responding to Carr’s comments, Cruz said: “No, no, no, no, no.”

“Look, look, I like Brendan Carr,” the senator said. “He’s a good guy. He’s the chairman of the FCC. I work closely with him. But what he said there is dangerous as hell.”

“He says, ‘We can do this the easy way, or we can do this the hard way.’ And I got to say, that’s right out of ‘Goodfellas.’ That’s right out of a mafioso coming into a bar going, ‘nice bar you have here. It’d be a shame if something happened to it.’”

Cruz later added: “I think it is unbelievably dangerous for government to put itself in the position of saying, ‘We’re going to decide what speech we like and what we don’t, and we’re going to threaten to take you off air if we don’t like what you’re saying.’”

“And it might feel good right now to threaten Jimmy Kimmel,” the senator said. “But when it is used to silence every conservative in America, we will regret it.”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/dangerous-hell-ted-cruz-compares-181531390.html


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Originally Posted by Jester
Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Here's the bottom line: Some people are more worked up about a person losing a job over something he said than they are about a person losing their life about something he said. Says a lot.

1, I think many people on this bord are complex enough to be able to understand that there are 2 separate issues (though in the current situation intertwined) here and be able to discuss them both

2, I am pretty sure more than one person in the history of this country gave their lives for our right to express our opinions without fear of persecution by the govenment. And frankly, I find the way you mockingly try to diminish and cheapen their sacrifice somewhat offensive.

This is one of the more absurd things I have read here in a long, long time. He made a direct reference to a current event and showed the contrast in reactions. You pulled some absolute bs out of the sky and shamed him for it. Why would you say that?


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*sigh* I miss Johnny Carson.


I miss him also, but Carson was Brutal on politicians, the times were much different during Carsons years.

I wouldn't call it brutal, but I get your point.

Two differences. Late night comedians kept it a 2 way street and they didn't take themselves seriously.

There is a difference between political humor and political commentary.

Where is the line drawn between humor and commentary? From what I see, Trump gets his panties in a twist no matter what you call it. NOT once in my life has a late night TV host been threatened by the White House inhabitants.

On top of that, Hegseth just told reporters at the Pentagon they must obey the rule of only reporting stories they tell you can report or risk losing their credentials.

How many rights being taken away does it take for you to say, ENOUGH? Maybe he'll hit something you hold dear soon... Then, maybe?

Pardon while I go do some light reading,, I'm thinking the Bill of Rights might be fun...... Since it seems to be taking a beating today!


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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Here's the bottom line: Some people are more worked up about a person losing a job over something he said than they are about a person losing their life about something he said. Says a lot.

Since this has apparently become a hot topic - I'll offer my 2 cents.

I think you are wrong. I don't see anyone getting more worked up about a person losing their job compared to someone losing their life. Period. I think you have drawn an incorrect conclusion. I'll leave it there. If you think you see a specific poster more concerned over someone losing their job than Kirk losing his life - I'd suggest you specifically address that poster and ask them if that is true. When making such a claim I think it'd be important to be specific. jmo


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Originally Posted by archbolddawg
Here's the bottom line: Some people are more worked up about a person losing a job over something he said than they are about a person losing their life about something he said. Says a lot.

And some, as you can see if you go back to the beginning of this thread, were more concerned in pointing fingers at the trans community, democrats and scoring political points than honoring and mourning Charlie Kirk. Exactly like Kimmel said.

And do you really think this is about Kimmel per se? Because it isn't. It's about abusing the power of the government to control political speech by directly threatening to take away their license to broadcast from those who speak ill of their political opponents. Something only done in countries ran by dictators.


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2019 Brendon Carr sounded like a different man than he did after he applied and received his trump loyalty card....................

“Should the government censor speech it doesn’t like? Of course not,” Carr wrote in 2019. “The FCC does not have a roving mandate to police speech in the name of the ‘public interest.’”

Evidently, he was against his standard before he was for it.

2022 Carr....................

“President Biden is right. Political satire is one of the oldest and most important forms of free speech. It challenges those in power while using humor to draw more people in to the discussion. That’s why people in influential positions have always targeted it for censorship.”

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...-abc-public-interest-standard-rcna232098

I'm not a follower nor fan of Maddow but used this source only to get the quotes by Carr. What happened to this once great Patriot and supporter of the freedom of the press?

Now he's Mr. We Can Do This The Easy Way Or The Hard Way threatening broadcasters for the very thing he supported just a few short years ago.


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How dare this far left liberal claim that it was the government that caused Kimmel to be taken off the air! He should be impeached! We can't just sit back and let him get away with saying things we don't like that way!


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