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More Democratic jihadists no doubt!!! The party of love and acceptance!

I wish their families and friends thoughts and prayers of healing during what must be a tragic time for them.

And as per usual, before even wishing condolences to their families their friends, before a mourning or grieving process can even begin, your first priority is making it political.

Kimmel was right about everything.

Kimmel was not right at all. He tried to make that jihadist out to be a MAGA Republican. As far as most of us we are tired of soft on crime Democrats letting criminals go free in the streets, letting illegal aliens into the country, and excusing bad behavior that is causing havoc in our streets. They have do not have a moral compass and have no respect to people, property and life.

When a woman is stabbed on a train for no other reason than she was white. When a man is gunned down for his beliefs, and agents are killed because they are doing their job there is a major problem in this country and it is coming from the progressive left.

No, no he did not. He said that the Repubicans were quick to put distance between the shooter and themselves. That they quickly used it to score political points. Just like you did.


Nowhere in that did he accuse the shooter or suggest the shooter was MAGA. He said they quickly attacked it from a political angle rather than anything else..

You know, just like you did.

Did you see any Republican point out that he grew up in a very religious household and that his dad was MAGA?

No, because it really doesn't make any difference just like the made up BS MAGA claimed Kimmel said.

Memphis, what we are seeing is a battle of wills. A battle to answer the question, who decides who lives in America? The citizens of America or anybody who can sneak into our country in violation of our laws. Those who believe the latter are willing to engage in violent attacks on our law enforcement officers. But most Americans believe that foreigners should come to America by invitation only. And that if you did break into our country you need to go back where you came from.

Meanwhile the lefties encourage this sort of violence by calling our law officers the gestapo, nazis and fascists. People who use that sort of language demonstrate two things. First an abysmal ignorance of the words and, second, that they do not care if the language they use promotes violence.

Btw, that problem was magnified tremendously by the lefties electing a president who did not give a crap who came across the border or how many Americans they hurt. That turned a problem into a disaster that needed to be dealt with expeditiously.

Fortunately we have strong leadership intent on doing what most Americans want, removing those who came here illegally.

Fewer Americans Want Immigration Decreased

After climbing to 55% in 2024, the percentage of Americans who say immigration should be reduced has dropped by nearly half to 30%. Sentiment is thus back to the level measured in 2021, before the desire for less immigration started to mount. Meanwhile, 38% now want immigration kept at its current level, and 26% say it should be increased.

With illegal immigration levels down dramatically and refugee programs suspended, the desire for less immigration has fallen among all party groups, but it is most pronounced among Republicans, down 40 percentage points over the past year to 48%. Among independents, this sentiment is down 21 points to 30%, and among Democrats, down 12 points to 16%.

Republicans are the only group still showing at least plurality support for reducing immigration. Independents are most likely to favor maintaining current levels, while a plurality of Democrats favor increasing it.

Record High Say Immigration Benefits Nation

When asked if immigration is generally a good thing or bad thing for the country, a record-high 79% of U.S. adults call it a good thing; a record-low 17% see it as a bad thing.

This is consistent with the long-term pattern of more Americans viewing immigration as helpful than harmful to the country. But today’s endorsement is up from 64% last year and represents a reversal of the downward trend seen in this view from 2021 to 2024.

The recent jump in perceptions of immigration being a good thing is largely owed to a sharp increase among Republicans and, to a lesser extent, independents. These groups’ views have essentially rebounded to 2020 levels after souring in the intervening years.

Democrats’ belief that immigration is beneficial to the country is also up slightly, to a record-high 91%. However, this is generally consistent with their highly positive perspective on immigration over the past decade, with at least 80% calling it a good thing each year since 2016.

More Citizenship, Less Enforcement

In addition to supporting increased or stable immigration levels, more Americans now favor offering undocumented immigrants pathways to citizenship, while fewer support stringent measures to deter or reverse illegal immigration.

In terms of impeding illegal immigration at the source, support for increasing the number of Border Patrol agents has declined 17 points to 59%, from 76% a year ago. And backing for expanding the U.S.-Mexico border wall has dropped eight points to 45%. This likely reflects people perceiving these measures as less necessary given the sharp drop in illegal border crossings.

Yet, support is also lower today for deporting all undocumented immigrants, with 38% now favoring this as the administration is attempting it, down from 47% last year when it was a Trump campaign promise. However, it should be noted that last year’s support for deportation was uniquely high. Today’s level matches where it stood in 2019 (at 37%) and is slightly higher than when first measured in 2016 (32%).

In terms of a new policy being debated this year, Americans give lukewarm support to denying alleged gang members the ability to challenge deportation in court — half favor this being done, while 45% oppose it.

Meanwhile, support for allowing undocumented immigrants to become U.S. citizens has risen to 78%, up from 70% last year. This is also back to the level of support seen in 2019 (81%) while slightly lower than in 2016 (84%). Approval is higher still, albeit statistically unchanged, for offering individuals brought to the U.S. illegally as children a pathway to citizenship, with support holding above 80%.

The declines in support for hiring more border agents and deporting all undocumented immigrants are mainly due to less support from independents and Democrats. Independents are also primarily responsible for the slip in support for expanding the construction of walls along the U.S.-Mexico border. Republicans’ support for each of these measures remains high.

Meanwhile, the eight-point increase in support for giving immigrants living in the U.S. illegally the chance to become U.S. citizens reflects increased support from all party groups, with the biggest gain among Republicans (up 13 points to 59%).

Majority Disapprove of Trump’s Handling of Immigration

Perhaps because of Americans’ opposition to immigration policies that Trump has enacted to remove undocumented immigrants from the U.S., their evaluation of his work on immigration is mostly negative. Thirty-five percent approve of his handling of the issue, including 21% strongly approving, while 62% disapprove, including 45% strongly.

These views are sharply partisan: 85% of Republicans approve of Trump’s handling of immigration, compared with 28% of independents and just 2% of Democrats. Notably, 81% of Democrats strongly disapprove, while 59% of Republicans strongly approve. Independents are much more likely to strongly disapprove (45%) than to strongly approve (14%).

https://news.gallup.com/poll/692522/surge-concern-immigration-abated.aspx

There is more to the article at the link.

Just because the minority is more vocal it doesn't make them the majority. I certainly agree that most everyone wants a solution to the immigration issue. It's just not the solution that some claim it is and support.

This is what "the citizens of America" think.

keith,

I think the battle you talk about is what some people WANT you to focus on. Remember back when govt workers were "the enemy"? You should, it was only a couple months ago (even though it feels like it's been years). The DOGE thread just got bumped because a bunch of those govt workers are being hired back. So much for the narrative that they were responsible for sucking the country dry, right?

The reason I bring that up is because a recurring theme we've seen this admin use is distracting the citizenry with a scary boogieman. It was govt workers at one point, then foreign manufacturers, now Tylenol (among others). Admittedly, illegal aliens are probably the closest thing to an actual enemy than most of the other populations that seem to draw Trump's ire... but the way that this admin has gone after illegal aliens indicates (IMO) that it's really more of a convenient distraction vs something Trump actually wants to do something about.

Why do I say that? Because lately there has been a shift in MAGA rhetoric away from solely targeting the violent criminal element to including ALL people that are here in a status other than US-born citizen. He's revoking programs that brought checked and sponsored folks here legally (thereby making them illegal overnight and for no apparent reason). He's targeting H1B visa holders (not that I'm the biggest fan of H1B or how it's been used by companies... but my point is that these are more people that followed the rules/law to come here).

Trump is making a big show of going after these violent criminal elements... but the simple fact is that there are not enough of those people to create as big of a show as he needs. So he's going after the non-violent illegals in the same manner, and criminalizing people that are here legally.

woah.

Mother of Dallas ICE shooter Joshua Jahn is hardline liberal who raged against gun rights
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And the young man who shot Charlie Kirk was raised in a conservative, MAGA, religious household. I never saw you post about any of that.

What we do know are only a scant few facts. For one anyone who listens to the the tape can hear these were not rapid fire shots. There was time between them. It wasn't a barrage of bullets. It was about 6 or 7 shots. The main target of those shots was a bus full of immigrants. All three of his victims were immigrants.

What does that mean? I don't know. What I do know is you don't shoot at a bus full of immigrants of your intended targets are ICE agents.

To your point, I think putting a label on people's political leanings and how that factors into this type of violence is a LOT tougher than most would like to admit... especially those that have a vested interest in painting their political opponents in a negative light.

More and more division and less actual understanding or solutions.

I think that is deliberate and very intentionally.

I've said for a very long time that if we worked as hard at finding a solution as we do pointing fingers at each other we may be able to cut down on such events.

All you need to do is look at this very thread. Almost everyone who responded to this thread still hasn't wished condolences to the family and friends of the victims. No mention of the victims at all. And actually much of that same thing could be said about the Charlie Kirk thread as well.

I would have first thought the main reason the victims weren't mentioned by the finger pointers in this case is because they are immigrants who were just rounded up by ICE and that certainly wouldn't further their agenda driven message. But then as I mentioned the Charlie Kirk thread isn't much different.

To me that's an indictment of where our society is. Scoring political points and trying to distance yourself from the perpetrators has a higher priority than the victims, their families and giving people time to grieve.

At least nobody can kick me off of my TV show for stating the obvious.

Are you thru honoring yourself? Talk about ego! Wow!!!

I know the truth hurts your widdle feewings. I'm not surprised you have nothing of substance to add to the conversation.

Hey thanks for justifying the shooting.


Lots of speculation I expect the facts to be released soon.

Good lord ... you'll have to walk the world thru how you made that claim. I mean I know it's total freaking nuts - but go on, give it a go. Justify this ridiculous claim.

Nothing about that justifies the shooting. It's an explanation of facts surrounding the shooting.

Thanks for showing you decided to use this shooting as a political tool first and foremost and still have not sent condolences to the victims, their families and friends.

Still using the Kimmel model I see.

Did you miss this part of my post?


You did a huge swing and a miss there. But I'm not surprised by that.

Can you tell me anything in my post that "justified the shooting"?

No, you can't. And I'm just taking it for granted that English is your first language.

Ice shooter was another right-wing-radicalized young white loser.

you need to stop reading wherever you consume your news.


https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas-ice-shooting-joshua-jahn-motive

LOL, Look who you are using to prove your point. That is about as funny as it gets right there.

This just proves there is too many guns on the street. Thank you conservatives.

Uh. Fox4 is a local news station. It doesn't mean its liberal or conservative

Not a true statement.

If someone tells you and spreads the word they hate democratic politicians then shoot three Republican politicians, do you pay attention to what they said and wrote? Or is it more important to look at what they did? ICE agents don't travel in buses. Immigrants they lock up do. They're closely seated and the bus is an easy target. Maybe it's time to stop listening to the noise and look at the results. In this case it was claimed he hated ICE. Yet all he shot were immigrants.

False flag

A false flag operation is an act committed with the intent of disguising the actual source of responsibility and pinning blame on another party.

I'm not saying that's what this is but for all the world if there is such a thing this sure appears as though it may be one.