DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Misled by video of 2020 protests shown on Fox, Trump threatens to invade Portland and 'wipe out' protesters

Donald Trump told reporters on Friday that he might send national guard troops to Portland, Oregon, apparently because he was misled about the scale of small protests outside an immigration detention facility there by a TV report which incorrectly presented video recorded during a protest in 2020 as having taken place in the city this summer.

“I will say this, I watched today, I didn’t know that was continuing to go on, but Portland is unbelievable, what’s going on,” Trump said. He then claimed, incorrectly, that he had seen video evidence of “the destruction of the city”.

In fact, a handful of protesters have demonstrated outside an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in a remote area of Portland along the south waterfront this year, but the scale of the protests, which attract dozens at most, is nothing like the 2020 protests that regularly drew thousands or tens of thousands of demonstrators to a central part of the city.

“Are you going into Portland?” a reporter asked Trump.

“Well, I’m going to look at it now because I didn’t know that was still going on; this has been going on for years,” the president replied. He then explained how he had been misled into the entirely false belief that the large-scale protests from 2020 had continued.

“We’ll be able to stop that very easily, but that was not on my list, Portland, but when I watched television last night, this has been going on,” Trump said.

The president did not cite the specific news report that he was basing his impression on, but his favorite channel, Fox News, broadcast a report on Thursday that mixed images of a recent protest in Portland, attended by dozens of protesters, with a viral video clip from 2020 of one protester, Christopher David, being pepper-sprayed in the face by a federal agent that was wrongly described as having been shot in June of this year.

The report focused mainly on one protest outside the facility on Tuesday, attended by dozens of protesters who brought a guillotine as a prop before being doused with chemical agents by federal officers.

“These are paid terrorists,” the president said, once again spreading a baseless conspiracy theory his administration amplified about anti-fascist protesters in 2020.

“These are paid agitators, these are professional. I watched that last night, I’m very good at this stuff. These are paid agitators, they get paid money by radical left groups,” the president claimed. He then went on to suggest that well-printed signs displayed by some protesters proved his theory.

“These are paid agitators and they’re very dangerous for our country and when we go there, if we go to Portland, we’re going to wipe ‘em out. They’re going to be gone. They won’t even stand to fight. They will not stay there. They’ve ruined that city.”

“It’s like living in hell,” the president said, describing an imaginary version of Portland that bears no resemblance to the actual city, in which fences around the federal courthouse that was the scene of mass protests in 2020 have now been removed and the central police headquarters no longer has boarded up windows.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...on-tariffs-us-politics-live-news-updates

And the National Guard would help with this how? Is that the "war" trump said was going on in Portland?

It’s only a matter of time before going nuclear becomes an option… Nothing wrong with nuking your own territory.

We are living in a surreal world.

If the speech to the military does not scare the citizens of this country into action.

Then we have accepted authoritarian rule.

It is time to go after Antifa like Wyatt Earp went after the Red Sash gang. They need to be eliminated from our society. No place in our Country for that kind of lawlessness.

So not the Proud Boys, White Supremacists groups and the KKK? It's time for you to stop believing half of America is your enemy.

I don't see them attacking ICE agents for 100 days straight, do you? If they did, I would expect the full force of the law to come down on them also. There is no doubt that Antifa is the most active terrorist group right now in the US and it must be put down and not allowed to exist or at least continue in its destructive ways.

So repercussions are reserved only for attacking ICE agents (vs any other law enforcement or govt agent)? Or you're allowed to attack a federal agent, but as long as it's not too long (ex. 1 day) then it's ok?


If you're trying to walk a thin line with that argument, you're doing a terrible job.

Did you see ANTIFA attacking ICE agents? No, you didn't. ANTIFA is only a terrorist group in trumplandia.

Trump has you convinced that your fellow Americans are your enemy. That's one of the early signs of a dictator.

Silencing the press. Check

Using the power of the government to go after your political enemies. Check

Labeling the opposing party "the enemy within". Check

And you are an active part of that. Well done Comrade.

Anyone rioting in the streets and opposing our law enforcement is an enemy. Antifa is an enemy of the USA.

When is the last time you saw ANTIFA rioting in the streets? The fact of the matter is the rioting you witnessed during the time of the George Floyd protests was after dark and well after the actual ANTIFA protests had ended. And that was over 5 years ago.

You aren't seeing ANTIFA rioting in the streets. Stop making up BS.

What's your stance on Samuel Adams (the person, not the beer), Paul Revere, and the like?

They went to war for their beliefs right. Are you saying that Antifa has declared war on the country? If so, just like England the country should act accordingly.

When is the last time you saw ANTIFA rioting in the streets? The fact of the matter is the rioting you witnessed during the time of the George Floyd protests was after dark and well after the actual ANTIFA protests had ended. And that was over 5 years ago.

You aren't seeing ANTIFA rioting in the streets. Stop making up BS.

Antifa has attacked the Portland ICE office for over 100 days straight. Get your head out of the sand.

What? Do you have anything other than hot air and a keypad to back that up? There have only been a few dozen protestors at ICE locations in and around Portland and zero evidence they are connected to ICE. In the past 4 months only 12 people have been arrested in Portland in connection with the protests. All but five of them were arrested during the fist month. So a total of 5 people have been arrested over the past three months. According to you and trump that equals a "war-ravaged Portland".

Most of the arrests have led to misdemeanor charges. Three of the people with a misdemeanor federal charge of 'Failure to Obey a Lawful Order' pleaded guilty and received 6 months of probation and fines.

That's not attacking or assaulting ICE agents.


Why are you so out of touch?

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/lo...283-8920bd3b-687b-43c1-b8b8-475ebcbd3bec

Ok so just like most liberals you take a blind eye to bad behavior on your side. There are many videos put out on the new showing the activity. The police actually showed up over the weekend on bikes and was pushed back by these extremists. Many local officers have been effectively blocked by local government from doing their jobs. Reality is when your kind killed Charlie Kirk, they set in motion actions taken by our government to protect all of its citizens and officers.

One lone gunman killed Charlie Kirk. From the same link....................

Chief Day said the protests, and any associated criminal activity, have been limited in scale.

"The events that are happening down there do not rise to the level of attention that they are receiving," said Portland Police Chief Bob Day on Monday. "We’re in good shape. I don’t see the need for the National Guard at this time; I really believe we’ve got a handle on it."

"The fact of the matter is, and it has been highlighted so many times so well, but I just want to emphasize that this is one city block — Portland is about 145 square miles," Day said. "[This] is not in line with that national narrative, but we’re going to continue to stay the course."

On a rainy Tuesday afternoon, about a dozen protesters stood outside the ICE facility with signs opposing the federal government's increased immigration enforcement efforts under the Trump administration........................................

You're the only one turning a blind eye to what's really going on here because facts are not your friend.

Using these minor events over a four month period and the murder of Charlie Kirk to send in the National Guard into Portland over this is nothing more than making excuses for it.

So reporting the facts to you is "turning a blind eye to it"? Only in trumplandia.

As usual, either intentionally or because of a fundamental misunderstanding, you completely missed both the explicitly stated part as well as the implied part of the question.

The folks I mentioned are considered patriots in no small part because of their actions done in protest for what they considered (and many of us would consider) to be wrong. Given how our nation came about, it makes sense that freedom of expression and peaceful protest are protected.

Saying that anyone opposing our law enforcement is an enemy would probably get you slapped by most if not all of the folks who had a hand in breaking away from the British and establishing our nation.

Except in this case the founders would stand with me for holding onto the originals values this country was formed on and not this push to change the country in which we live. Protest is fine. discord and rioting is not protest it is criminal.

well, he did tell a conference of Generals and Admirals that perhaps we should use our own cities for war training.. so it's a safe bet it he's not stopped, he'll eventually do something that takes american lives.

My hope is that these generals and Admirals won't follow illegal commands.

So far you have been promoting the values this country was founded on be trampled upon by a wannabe king.


Like the Boston Tea Party?

That was against England, foreign Country. They did not riot against the US. Do you even know your history???

I know the principals they were fighting against. Do you know your history?

That was also Patriots that stood up to oppression not blue haired jihadist.

Obviously you haven't been paying attention and your posts prove that you think anyone who doesn't look, act and believe the way you do is your enemy. You are a very sick individual...................

Historically, many dictators have labeled internal groups as "enemies of the people" to consolidate power, suppress dissent, and justify purges and persecution. Some of the most notable examples include Joseph Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, and Adolf Hitler.

Soviet Union: Joseph Stalin

The Great Purge (1936–1938): Stalin used the term "enemy of the people" to initiate a brutal political campaign to eliminate anyone perceived as a threat to his authority.

Expansion of targets: The label was initially used against political opponents, but it was expanded to include anyone deemed "anti-Soviet," including intellectuals, artists, peasants, ethnic minorities, and dedicated communists.

Consequences: Being designated an "enemy" was effectively a death sentence or led to imprisonment in the Gulag forced labor camps. Families of the accused also suffered consequences, such as loss of employment and education for their children.

Post-Stalin denunciation: His successor, Nikita Khrushchev, later denounced the use of the term, calling it an abuse of power and acknowledging that many victims were innocent.

China: Mao Zedong

Five Black Categories: During the Cultural Revolution (1966–1976), Mao and the Chinese Communist Party created a system of political classifications. The "Five Black Categories" included landlords, rich farmers, counter-revolutionaries, "bad influencers," and rightists who were subject to severe persecution.

Targeting intellectuals: Mao's campaign also targeted teachers and other intellectuals, who were labeled as the "Stinking Old Ninth" and victimized to enforce the desired cultural changes.

Consequences: These class-based designations led to widespread discrimination, with children of "black category" members facing limitations on employment and marriage.

Nazi Germany: Adolf Hitler

Racial and political "enemies": Nazi ideology defined a number of groups as "enemies of the state" and "outsiders" who threatened the purity of the so-called "Aryan" race.

Groups targeted: These targeted groups included Jews, Roma (Gypsies), communists, socialists, trade unionists, Jehovah's Witnesses, homosexuals, and people with disabilities.

Consequences: These labels were used to justify horrific acts of persecution, violence, and extermination during the Holocaust.

Cambodia: Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge

Genocidal intent: Under Pol Pot's leadership (1975–1979), the Khmer Rouge regime targeted and killed nearly two million Cambodians in what became known as the Killing Fields.

Defining enemies: The victims included anyone perceived as a threat to the radical communist movement. This included intellectuals, ethnic minorities, former government officials, and anyone with connections to the outside world.

Forced confessions: Many high-ranking perpetrators later confessed to being driven by the paranoid belief that large numbers of people were "enemies" plotting against them.

Recent examples

Though the phrase "enemy of the people" is historically associated with totalitarian regimes, similar rhetorical strategies have been used more recently by authoritarian rulers. For example:

In the 2010s, Venezuela's Hugo Chavez called political dissenters "enemies of the homeland".

In a more modern context, populist leaders and authoritarians around the world have been documented using rhetoric that frames minorities, the media, or political opponents as "enemies" of the people.........................

Those who do not learn from history are destined to repeat it. Those who refuse to teach history plan to repeat it.

You're really close. Reread what you wrote here and then go back and read the original article of this thread. He's sending in troops because Fox News told him a handful of hippies holding signs is an attack on our democracy.

Sounds like Donny Dementia qualifying for removal by the 25th amendment.

He seems to fit the definition/description.
Sadly, such an action would require both his cabinet and the Congress to actually grow vertebrae.

Upshot: don't hold your breath.

They keep lying about what's going on in Portland just so they can deploy the military into yet another blue city.

Republicans post fake image of Oregon protest – using photos of South America
A federal judge had blocked Trump’s request to deploy California national guard to Portland

Robert Mackey
Mon 6 Oct 2025 21.32 EDT
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Before a federal judge blocked Donald Trump from putting members of California’s national guard on the streets of Portland, Oregon, late on Sunday, the state’s Republican party welcomed the planned deployment in celebratory posts on social media.

“President Trump on Sunday deployed 300 California National Guard troops to Portland, Oregon after a judge ruled that the Oregon National Guard could not be deployed to keep federal facilities and personnel in Portland safe,” Oregon Republicans wrote on their official Facebook, Instagram and X accounts.

On all three platforms, the statement was illustrated with an image that seemed designed to support Trump’s false claim that protests against immigration sweeps in Portland are so out of control that the city is “burning to the ground”. On one side of the image, a line of police officers held riot shields; on the other, a crowd of young men held up flares that lit up a night sky filled with red smoke.

A screenshot of a post on X from the Oregon Republican party, posted on Sunday.
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A screenshot of a post on X from the Oregon Republican party, posted on Sunday. Photograph: X
On closer inspection, however, it turned out that the image was not a photograph of a real event in Portland, but instead a fabrication created by combining two photographs of scenes that unfolded in South America nearly a decade apart.


The image of the police officers comes from a photo of “South American riot police” that was uploaded to the Getty Images archive in 2008. A clear visual clue that the photograph was not taken in Portland was that the first officer’s shield is marked “Policia”, the Spanish or Portuguese word for police.

An image of police standing with riot shields placed in front of them. The word 'Policia' is visible on the first one.
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A photograph labelled ‘South American riot police’ in the Getty Images archive. Photograph: tirc83/Getty Images
The description on the Getty website does not specify the country it was taken in, but another, similar image uploaded a few days later by the same photographer says that it was taken in Ecuador. The initials of an Ecuadorian police unit from that time are visible on a third photograph in the set.

The image of the fiery demonstration that the officers seem to float above in the composite shared by the Oregon Republican party turned out to be another image from the free archive site Pexels. It was taken by a Brazilian photographer in 2017.

A image of people holding up red flares toward the sky
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A stock photograph from 2017 described as ‘Anonymous people standing on street among smoke during protests at night.’ Photograph: Maurício Mascaro/Pexels
When a Guardian reporter pointed out on social media that the image was not a genuine photograph of the generally small and tame protests outside the Immigration and Customs Enforcement field office in Portland, the Oregon Republican Party’s X account replied: “We’re not reporters, just bad memers.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/06/oregon-republicans-protest-photo-south-america

Yeah, they might want to make sure the bullet proof vests don't say "policía" on them the next time they want to lie to the American people.

Trump says Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson 'should be in jail'

The president's Truth Social post comes a day after federalized National Guard troops arrived in Illinois.

President Donald Trump said in a post to Truth Social on Wednesday that Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson and Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker "should be in jail" in an escalation of his conflict with the two Democratic officials.

"Chicago Mayor should be in jail for failing to protect Ice Officers!" he said in the post. "Governor Pritzker also!"

The president's post comes a day after Texas National Guard troops arrived in Illinois, despite the Democrats' fierce opposition. Trump has threatened for weeks to send troops to Chicago as part of a crime-fighting and immigration effort, and Democrats have slammed his push as overreach and a political stunt.

Reached for comment, White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson said that "JB Pritzker and Brandon Johnson have blood on their hands" and accused them of having "stood idly by while innocent Americans fall victim to violent crime time and time again."

She argued that "instead of taking action to stop the crime, these Trump-Deranged buffoons would rather allow the violence to continue and attack the President for wanting to help make their city safe again."

The statement did not address NBC News' questions about what crimes the president believes Johnson and Pritzker and whether the White House planned to try to have federal agents arrest them.

Pritzker responded to the president in a post to X, saying, “I will not back down.”

“Trump is now calling for the arrest of elected representatives checking his power,” he said in the post. “What else is left on the path to full-blown authoritarianism?”

Reached for comment, Johnson said that "this is not the first time Trump has tried to have a Black man unjustly arrested.”

“I’m not going anywhere,” he added.

On Monday, Illinois sued in an attempt to prevent the White House from deploying federalized troops to Chicago. A judge scheduled a hearing on the case for Thursday and declined to sign a temporary restraining order, which would have blocked the administration as the case proceeds in court.

The president’s comments come as protests across Immigration and Customs Enforcement have rippled across the country as the administration ramped up efforts to detain and deport migrants.

The White House has previously argued that deploying the National Guard is necessary to "protect federal assets and personnel" and prevent "attacks on law enforcement."

Trump first deployed the National Guard to Los Angeles, over Gov. Gavin Newsom's objections, after protests broke out in response to immigration raids. The president then ordered the National Guard to the streets of D.C., painting it as an effort to fight crime.

The administration is also trying to send federalized National Guard troops from California to Portland, Oregon, but a judge granted a temporary restraining order this week to block the move as the case is considered in court. A Pentagon spokesperson had said that the troops would have worked to "support U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and other federal personnel performing official duties, including the enforcement of federal law, and to protect federal property."

In Chicago, a frequent target of the president, Johnson signed an executive order on Monday in an effort to block immigration agents from using city property during their operations in Chicago.

"We will not tolerate ICE agents violating our residents’ constitutional rights nor will we allow the federal government to disregard our local authority," Johnson said in a press release marking the so-called "ICE Free Zone" executive order.

Pritzker has emerged as a leading critic of the Trump administration as his state faces the president's ire. Trump has compared Chicago to a "war zone," and Pritzker said Sunday in an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" that "they’re just making this up."

"Then what do they do? They fire tear gas and smoke grenades, and they make it look like it’s a war zone," Pritzker said on Sunday, appearing to refer to federal agents. "And they, you know, get people on the ground are, frankly, incited to want to do something about it, appropriately."

In recent days, Pritzker also said that he believed that Trump should be removed from office.

“There is something genuinely wrong with this man, and the 25th Amendment ought to be invoked,” he said, referring to a process for removing the president from office.

On Tuesday, Pritzker was asked during an event whether he believed he could be arrested.

"I’m asking any of you to come visit me in the gulag in El Salvador," Pritzker joked, referring to the prison where the Trump administration has deported some immigrants.

House Speaker Mike Johnson did not say whether he believed Mayor Johnson and Pritzker should be jailed when asked by NBC News about Trump's post.

"Should they be in prison? Should the mayor of Chicago and the governor of Illinois be in prison?" Johnson responded. "I'm not the attorney general. I'm the Speaker of the House, and I'm trying to manage the chaos here. I'm not following the day-to-day on that."

Trump has repeatedly threatened legal action against some of his political opponents, including former FBI Director James Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James. Last month, he urged Attorney General Pam Bondi in a post to Truth Social to not "delay any longer," slamming his political opponents and writing, "JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED, NOW!!!"

Comey was indicted days later and is set to be arraigned on Wednesday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...go-mayor-brandon-johnson-jail-rcna236339

How dare you pose legal challenges to the great and powerful Oz!

But don't mention these are the ramblings of a dictator or anything that happens afterwords will be your fault. Not the fault of the man who spews the words of a dictator.

As sad as it is to say, nothing really shocks me anymore. And from the lack of responses on this board many just don't give a damn about what's really going on anymore. And in some cases actually promote it.

As long as those Antifa terrorist get taken down who cares!!! By any means necessary. By the way I do not believe your sources. I have seen way too many Portland and Chicago videos and nighttime is much different that daytime.

Can you imagine the expense that have gone to just to avoid releasing the Epstein Files? Yikes....

You don't even believe videos when they're shown to you. Would you like to see them shoot him in the face with a non lethal round? They are standing on the roof and he is standing on the ground. He is not being violent. He is not impeding them from doing anything.

At least you were willing to admit that you don't care about the law or anything else as long as they stop people from protesting. Even peacefully. Thanks for that. You continue to keep penciling in who you really are and why we need to protect America from your kind.

When ICE sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

Honestly, there is no talking to you., You think Antifa is a bad thing.. Do you have any idea where the Antifa HQ is located? whos the president of Antifa? Do you know who the leaders are of Antifa? Do you know where the largest number of those in Antifa are concentrated? Do you know where those in Antifa are buried?

You don't know jack and you wanna preach to the rest of the world?

I know they are getting hunted now by our government. Righty so!!!

So you approve of "hunting people" now. Good to know.

So your conclusion is that every protestor who doesn't want ICE going after people who have never committed crimes in this country, who work and pay taxes, who are contributing to our society, which is just differently than the way you think, ALL must be ANTIFA? They have programmed you well.

The term "antifa" is short for anti-fascist; it's used both by its adherents and its foes. In general, people who identify as antifa are known not for what they support, but what they oppose: Fascism, nationalism, far-right ideologies, white supremacy, authoritarianism, racism, homophobia and xenophobia.

There are over 400,000 graves at Arlington National Cemetery for soldiers who stood up for those very same causes since they are hunting for them. Now they know where to find a lot of them.

They label anything they don't like as fascist. What is happening in this country by the right bares no resemblance to actual fascism. Also, that is no excuse to riot, attack ICE, etc... the blue haired jihadists known as antifa needs to be severly dealt with put out of commission.

Just like you are labeling all protestors as ANTIFA?


So a president telling the justice department publicly to go after, prosecute and punish his political enemies is not fascism? Cutting funding that was already earmarked and approved by congress is not fascism? Firing people who simply disagree with you is not fascism? You really need to start paying more attention.


There are criminal laws already on the books that cover every one of those crimes. People have been and are being arrested when they do commit such criminal acts. You are trying to label everyone who protests as ANTIFA, which is 100% false and call for special crimes and laws to be written when those you claim are ANTIFA commit the very same crimes that are already on the books.

This is yet another way fascists try to silence their opposition.

As long as they silence antifa. I don't care.

That sounds a lot like what the Nazi's said about the Jews.

shouldnt everyone be anti-fascist? I guess republicans are PROFA

I care but have given up trying to argue with people who lack the capacity to understand the argument.

You don't know who they are, yet you are ok with Hunting them?

I'm afraid you have no clue..,. Did your father/mother or grandfather/grandmother, Uncles or Aunts join the Military during WW2? Just so you know, that makes the Anti Facist or Antifa! Is anyone in your family buried at Arlington? That makes them Anti Facist or Antifa!

You would have your parents or Grandparents hunted by the Government? For doing what it was America was Designed to do?

Trump and his minions are FACISTS!
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A fascist is an adherent of fascism, an ultranationalist political philosophy characterized by authoritarian views and a strong central government
. A fascist movement is led by a dictatorial leader(TRUMP) who typically suppresses opposition(TRUMP) and criticism through force and often violence(TRUMP).
Core tenets and goals
Fascists place the importance of the nation above the rights of individuals and subordinate individual interests for the perceived benefit of the nation or race. A fascist movement typically exhibits the following characteristics:

Extreme nationalism. Often exclusionary, it is centered on a cult of a powerful and often "infallible" leader who uses populist rhetoric.
Militarism. Fascist regimes glorify war, violence, and expansionism as redemptive, and they emphasize the supremacy of the military.
Racial and social hierarchy. Fascism promotes a social hierarchy based on the "natural" dominance of one group over others. This leads to an intense interest in defining who belongs to the national body and who does not.
Suppression of opposition. Fascism controls society and the economy, leaving little to no room for dissent or opposing opinions.
Obsession with decline or victimhood. Fascists often focus on perceived national decline, humiliation, or victimhood to rally support.

Historical context
The term fascist originates from the Italian word fascio, meaning "group" or "bundle". It was first applied to the political organizations in Italy known as fasci. Benito Mussolini founded the National Fascist Party in 1921, and its rise to power in 1922 established the classical example of a fascist state. Other historical examples include Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany and Francisco Franco's Spain.
Contemporary usage
Since the defeat of the Axis powers in World War II, few parties openly describe themselves as fascist. The term is now most often used pejoratively by political opponents and is sometimes applied to modern authoritarian or far-right movements with similar ideologies. Contemporary fascist movements may exhibit the same characteristics as their historical predecessors, but they often adapt their messaging to a modern context.
However, the term is also frequently misapplied, leading to a sometimes ambiguous use in political discourse. Some scholars believe it should be reserved for the specific 20th-century historical movements, while others consider it a useful concept for understanding authoritarian trends today.

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Is that your view of America? Is that what you want? Go ahead and admit it,, We all know it's true. Your actions prove it.. Every time you defend Trump and the things he orders, you admit you want a facist country.



Good luck with that!

My view of America is to conserve the values that has made this country great for 200+ years. This country has always been founded on Christian principles with traditional family values. You work hard and play by the rules, and you can live the American dream. Work, own a home, get married, and have a family. These progressive values do not align with the values this country was founded on, and I do not want to see it changed. So those blue haired Jihadists and the Alphabet mafia that calls themselves Antifa has been labeled a terrorist organization for good reason and that organization should be dismantled systematically and people funding terrorism should be in jail along with those that riot and spread hate and terror on the streets. That is not what America is or should ever be. But there is good news coming for you and your kind. The rapture of the church is approaching quickly, and your beliefs will be on full display for about 7 years. Enjoy them.

FWIW, it's not a capability issue, it's a 'want-to' problem.

This country was founded an all and any religion being equal. Or having no religion for that matter. Not some special rules that Christians could impose their will and religion on others. Freedom of religion doesn't mean in any way that Christians are favored. Working is not a "Christian value".


None of which are Christain values and nowhere in the Constitution does it say anyone needs to get married. Did somebody slip a fake version of the Constitution to you?


Who has tried to force you to change? Has anyone tried to prevent you from attending church? Tried to prevent you from getting married? Tried to force you not to work or buy a home? What you want is to impose your will on the whole of society. That's never what America was intended to be. Society will not conform to "your beliefs".


Hopefully it sweeps up your kind so we are no longer inflicted by those trying to cram their religion down everyone's throats by labeling, targeting and jailing everyone who doesn't follow their will. Millions of people throughout history have been killed, imprisoned and punished in the name of Christianity due to it being bastardized and weaponized by people that sounded just like you. Job well done ye good and faithful servant. The only problem is you aren't serving who you think you are.

Repeating this doesn't make it any less untrue. The country was founded by Christian men... and that's where the overlap ends. Our founders started a SECULAR govt, enshrining freedom to practice any religion and freedom from religious (among other) persecution. Those same men also established separation of church and state. You have incorrectly repeated this numerous times, so either you have a severe reading/comprehension deficiency or you're taking willful ignorance to the next level.


I think it's hysterical how you go from (incorrectly) referencing the Founding Fathers to then talking about how we should play by the rules. If the Founding Fathers played by the rules, there would be no American dream. Civil Disobedience that developed in revolution. You can't romanticize what the Founding Fathers did and then say you want to hunt down the people you disagree with. Where laws are broken, enforce those laws... but what is going on is targeted escalation. If the Westboro Baptist Church was run down and thrown into a paddywagon during one of their military funeral protests, you would've soiled yourself.

The government is not hunting down people I disagree with. They have rightfully so named Antifa a terrorist Organization because of their own actions. That is why the government is hunting them down.

This is pretty funny;


What’s Really Going On in Portland, According to Police Reports
Protests outside ICE facility were dwindling and ‘low energy’ before Trump called in troops, law-enforcement logs show
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Oct. 9, 2025 5:30 am ET



People protest against the Trump administration's immigration policies in Portland, Ore.
Demonstrators protesting Trump administration immigration policies, outside an ICE facility in Portland, Ore., in early September. Photo: john rudoff/Reuters
On Sept. 5, President Trump described ongoing protests in Portland as “unbelievable” and “the destruction of the city.”

Later that day, a sergeant from the Portland Police Bureau filed his daily observations of the demonstrations outside an ICE facility.

“Saw 8 people out front and couldn’t even get one of them to flip me the bird,” he wrote. “Very low energy.”

Daily reports from Portland police in the month leading up to Trump’s decision, on Sept. 27, to send federal troops into the city paint a different picture than public statements by Trump and others in his administration.

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Sept. 30

The White House has said the ICE facility is “under siege.” Newly released police reports filed in federal court describe how the protests that began in June were dwindling before Trump’s order.

The official logs shed light on the events this September, and how the nightly protests at the ICE facility unfolded.

The Journal reviewed reports for the month of September, leading up to Trump’s order late that month. Below is a timeline of key observations by local authorities, who also cite their regular interactions with the Federal Protective Service, a Homeland Security division that was at the facility.

“Any attempt by The Wall Street Journal to downplay the safety of America’s law enforcement officers after the horrific shooting at the ICE Field Office in Dallas, Texas, and vehicle rammings in Chicago is disgraceful and disgusting,” said Tricia McLaughlin, the assistant secretary for public affairs at the Department of Homeland Security. “The fact is that the Federal Protective Service memo from a select few nights does not paint the full picture of these violent riots outside the ICE facility in Portland, Oregon—where violence has been ensuing and escalating for months.”

Monday, Sept. 1 (Labor Day)
Largest number of demonstrators: 125



ICE agents charge toward demonstrators during a Sept. 1 protest at the ICE facility in Portland; a protester holds a makeshift guillotine.
John Rudoff/Reuters
A group of about 125 marched to the ICE facility and stood outside with “little to no energy,” according a police summary. A Federal Protective Service official “was not concerned about the group,” according to the report. Some demonstrators brought a makeshift guillotine that generated “significant media coverage,” police noted.

Thursday, Sept. 4
Largest number of demonstrators: 20

Federal officials reported that homeless people were being coerced by demonstrators into rattling the gate outside the ICE facility, Portland police said. The Federal Protective Service detained an elderly man “after he asked the agents if he could just come up to the gate and rattle it so the antifa instigators would leave him and others alone.” He was cited and released.

Friday, Sept. 5
Largest number of demonstrators: 8

Speaking to reporters, Trump said he might send troops to Portland. He described the continuing protests in Portland as “unbelievable” and lamented “the destruction of the city.” Police in Portland described the following scene that night:

An email response from Portland Police Lt. Nathan Sheppard to Portland Police Sgt. John Edwards’ message with the subject line “Friday Night Ice Report,” noting low energy from a small group outside ICE.
Email correspondence between a Portland police lieutenant and sergeant on Sept. 5, filed by Oregon and Portland in a lawsuit against the Trump administration.
Thursday, Sept. 11
Largest number of demonstrators: 20




“Nothing much to note tonight,” a police summary said, describing how a small group of counterprotesters showed up.

Email from Sgt. John Edwards of the Portland Police Bureau, reporting his “Thursday night ICE update” on Sept. 11, stating that counter-protesters instigated a confrontation with regular protesters, and one regular protester used a baton to chase off a counterprotester.
Email correspondence filed by Oregon and Portland in a lawsuit against the Trump administration.
Wednesday, Sept. 24
Largest number of demonstrators: 10

All was quiet at the ICE facility where less than 10 people gathered, according to Portland police. “No assaults, no calls for service,” police said.

Thursday, Sept. 25
Largest number of demonstrators: 20

Trump escalated his attacks on Portland, telling reporters that “nobody’s ever seen anything like it.” Trump said there were professional agitators and crazy people who are trying to “burn down buildings, including federal buildings.” He vowed to do a “pretty big number” on the “people in Portland that are doing that.”

Friday, Sept. 26
Largest number of demonstrators: 15

A small group was observed outside the ICE facility “mostly sitting in lawn chairs and walking around,” according to a Portland police report. “Energy was low, minimal activity. As officers drove through the area the group would often flip us off but as the night went on they stopped acknowledging the police.”

Saturday, Sept. 27
Largest number of demonstrators: 60

Protesters gathered at night outside the Portland ICE facility with armed officers standing by.
Protesters outside the Portland ICE facility on Sept. 27, after President Trump's earlier announcement that he would send troops to the city. Photo: Samantha Swindler/The Oregonian/Associated Press
Trump posted to Truth Social that he was “directing Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, to provide all necessary Troops to protect War ravaged Portland, and any of our ICE Facilities under siege from attack by Antifa, and other domestic terrorists. I am also authorizing Full Force, if necessary.”

That night the demonstrations grew, and federal officials arrested one person for blocking vehicles as they tried to leave the ICE facility, according to Portland police.

Sunday, Sept. 28
Largest number of demonstrators: 200

Wall Street Journal reporter Joe Barrett reported that the Sunday night rally drew a crowd to protest the potential troop deployment. There was a naked woman, a retired manufacturing worker with an “I AM ANTIFA” sign, about six to 12 people dressed in black with covered faces, and signs with message like “F— ICE,” “Release the EPSTEIN FILES! NOW!” and “THERAPY LLAMAS NOT TRAUMA.”

They chanted, drummed and urged passersby to honk before blocking the street entirely. After dark, someone set up a sound system. People danced and sprayed bubbles. Officers in tactical gear would occasionally emerge to push the crowd back for vehicles entering and exiting. At least twice, they pepper-sprayed demonstrators. The smell of pepper spray and marijuana was pervasive.

Portland police say that a vehicle attempted to drive into the crowd that night at one point and was surrounded by demonstrators.

Monday, Sept. 29
Largest number of demonstrators: 40


Protesters outside the ICE facility in Portland. Photo: Joe Barrett/WSJ
Barrett reported that a much smaller group of protesters held signs saying “DUE PROCESS ISN’T OPTIONAL” and “WHAT’S YOUR FAMILY STORY.” A person wearing a chicken suit and stylized American-flag cape appeared to be the ringleader.

Local and state authorities say protests have intensified since Trump’s Sept. 27 post, and more counterprotesters have joined the fray. “The criminal activity in the last couple of days has been counterprotesters having arguments and fights with protesters,” Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek said in a televised interview this week.

Saturday, Oct. 4
On Saturday, U.S. Judge Karin Immergut, a Trump appointee, issued a temporary restraining order blocking the deployment of troops to Portland, citing concerns of federal overreach. In her order, the judge also said, the state provided “substantial evidence that the protests at the Portland ICE facility were not significantly disruptive in the days—or even weeks—leading up to the President’s directive.”


There were sporadic events requiring either police or federal law-enforcement intervention, she wrote, but “nowhere near the type of incidents that cannot be handled by regular law enforcement forces.”

Judge Immergut said Trump’s portrayal of the situation on the ground “was simply untethered to the facts.”

Trump vowed to fight, and the court battle continues. On Sunday, he said “Portland is burning to the ground. It’s insurrectionists all over the place.”

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy...and-according-to-police-reports-be02370f

Out of control ICE agent yells 'do something, b----' before shooting Chicago woman 5 times
The video is in stark conflict with the government’s account that federal agents in Broadview were “boxed in by 10 cars” and the woman, Marimar Martinez, 30, was one of the drivers
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Maria Villarroel News Reporter
10:48 ET, 09 Oct 2025
Updated 11:55 ET, 09 Oct 2025


Martinez’s attorney, Christopher Parente, offered to play an agent’s body-camera video that shows the shooting(Image: Getty Images)
An Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent in Chicago is facing scrutiny after a new video shows him yelling at a local woman “do something, b—-” before pulling over and shooting her five times, a body camera video suggests.


The video is in stark conflict with the government’s account that federal agents in Broadview were “boxed in by 10 cars” and the woman, Marimar Martinez, 30, was one of the drivers. “Agents were unable to move their vehicles and exited the car. One of the drivers who rammed the law enforcement vehicle was armed with a semi-automatic weapon,” officials claimed on X.







Martinez’s attorney, Christopher Parente, offered to play an agent’s body-camera video that shows the shooting. In the footage he claims an agent turns a federal vehicle in Brighton Park, not Broadville, into Martinez’s vehicle when he taunts her to “do something, b—-.” He then allegedly exits his vehicle and proceeds to shoot Martinez. It comes after the terrifying moment an ICE agent held a family with a baby and gunpoint and committed a shocking act was caught on camera.



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Martinez is a U.S. citizen who works for a school and has supportive letters about her character filed in court. (Image: DHS)

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Marimar Martinez car damage(Image: USDC)
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“It’s a miracle she’s still alive,” Parente said.

Officials had initially alleged that Martinez was armed and rammed her car into federal agents, threatening to shoot officers. However, prosecutors now acknowledge that she did not point or display a weapon. Parente also confirmed that while she had a valid firearm, she also had a concealed-carry license.


Martinez is a U.S. citizen who works for a school and has supportive letters about her character filed in court. Another victim of the shooting and co-defendant Anthony Ruiz, 21, is also a U.S. citizen and self-employed as a DJ. Both of them face federal felony assault charges for “forcibly assaulting, impeding, and interfering with a federal law enforcement officer.”




Demonstrators confront police during a protest outside an immigrant processing and detention center on October 03, 2025 in Broadview, Illinois
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According to DHS, federal agents have arrested over 1,000 migrants in Chicago as a result of the highly-controversial operation(Image: Getty Images)
The shooting in Chicago has led to heightened tensions in the city, inspiring a series of protests against the presence of ICE agents in local communities in what the administration calls “Operation Midway Blitz.”

According to DHS, federal agents have arrested over 1,000 migrants in Chicago as a result of the highly-controversial operation.


“During Operation Midway Blitz, our brave DHS law enforcement has made more than 1,000 arrests across Illinois including pedophiles, child abusers, kidnappers, gang members, and armed robbers,” McLaughlin said in a statement.


The shooting in Chicago has led to heightened tensions in the city, inspiring a series of protests against the presence of ICE agents in local communities in what the administration calls “Operation Midway Blitz.”(Image: Getty Images)
“Our patriotic law enforcement officers are making these arrests despite working without pay because of the Democrats’ shutdown. President Trump and Secretary Noem will not allow continued violence or repeat offenders to terrorize our neighborhoods and victimize our children,” she continued.

Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker has denounced ICE’s operation in Chicago, describing the way they treat protesters and detainees as “inhumane.”

“It is clear federal agents cannot be trusted to act to protect the safety and constitutional rights of the public,” he said.

It comes after ICE savagely mocked a handcuffed protester being dragged away in a controversial video.

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/out-control-ice-agent-yells-1436299

What actions would those be? Did you hear the BS they said?................

Kristi Noem compares antifa to MS-13, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Islamic State

Homeland security secretary calls loosely affiliated network of anti-fascist street activists ‘just as dangerous’

The homeland security secretary, Kristi Noem, on Wednesday compared antifa to MS-13, Hamas, Hezbollah and the Islamic State, calling the loosely affiliated network of antifascist street activists “just as dangerous” as designated terrorist organizations during a White House roundtable discussion.

“They are just as sophisticated as MS-13, as TDA [Tren de Aragua], as Isis, as Hezbollah, as Hamas, as all of them, they are just as dangerous,” Noem said. “They have an agenda to destroy us, just like the other terrorists we’ve dealt with for many, many years.”

The roundtable featured rightwing social media journalists such as Andy Ngo, Nick Sortor, Katie Daviscourt and others who cover leftwing protests.

Some of the groups Noem cited – Hamas, Hezbollah and Isis – are formally designated terrorist organizations that control territory, operate military wings, maintain command structures and have carried out mass casualty attacks including bombings, kidnappings and assassinations.

Extremism experts have long described antifa, by contrast, as having no centralized leadership, formal membership or organizational structure, and it has generally been described by federal law enforcement as a decentralized movement of activists who engage in protest activity, some of which has included property destruction and street violence.
a person waves a flag that reads 'antifascist action'

The roundtable comes after Donald Trump signed an executive order in September designating antifa as a “domestic terrorist organization”.

Days before the announcement, Joe Biggs, a Proud Boys leader who was convicted and then pardoned for his role on January 6, posted on X: “Who’s ready to go ANTIFA hunting? Because I know a few guys.”

During Wednesday’s roundtable, the attorney general, Pam Bondi, sat beside Trump and repeated his condemnations of antifa. “This is not activism, it’s anarchy,” she said. “We can’t and we will not let masked terrorists burn our buildings, attack our law enforcement and intimidate our communities.”

Trump also listed examples of attacks against federal agents which he has attributed to antifa, and suggested that the man charged with shooting Charlie Kirk was a “a far-left extremist”. Law enforcement officials have not established a link between Tyler Robinson and any specific group.

“The epidemic of leftwing violence and antifa-inspired terror has been escalating for nearly a decade,” Trump said.

All of the witnesses who spoke during the roundtable were conservative influencers or partisan rightwing journalists, who all claimed that antifa was a terror organization without presenting any evidence.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/08/kristi-noem-antifa

Trump has attacked the media and gone after law firms, the media, his political enemies and now citizens who protest against him and you're too blind to see that he's hunting people down. And the very criminals he pardoned, The Proud boys, are ready to go hunting with him. Yet no mention of them being terrorists.

You have been indoctrinated.

Your echo chamber calls anyone who disagrees with this admin as ANTIFA. And you parrot it. Transgender people and ANTIFA is MAGA's boogiemen and everything has to somehow refer back to either of those two.

History points out examples of when civilians of their own country are labeled as the enemy to create panic and disdain for people with beliefs that run differently than their own. It's never turned out well and they have no intention of learning from that.

You forgot to include Immigrants on their list of boogeymen. And the press.... and trump's political opponents...... and anyone that has ever been involved in an investigation trump..... and......

They are the same. All terrorists. They should be treated the same also.

I've witnessed delusional before but you take to an all new level. Arrest those involved in criminal activity and stop acting like every protestor is part of some ANTIFA conspiracy.

You do realize this tactic has been used before to justify atrocities don't you?

In Nazi Germany it was the Jews. In America it was black people and immigrants. And no, I'm not talking about only now. Immigrants from many countries throughout our nation's history were done that way when they arrived in this country such as the Italians and the Irish being labeled and discriminated against. It led to Japanese immigrants being placed in internment camps. It led to black people being labeled as less than human to excuse slavery.

You never seem to learn. They are not "all the same".

They are attacking ICE agents, killing CEO's, Jewish people, political activists. That is terrorists and must be treated as such.

What possible evidence do you or anyone else have that the man who killed the CEO of UnitedHealthcare was in any way affiliated with ANTIFA? Anything? What evidence do you have that any of the people you mentioned were affiliated with ANTIFA?

You don't. You're just using it as justification to do what you're doing which as I pointed out has been done throughout history.

You sound just like people that made excuses for the KKK behavior years ago. I guess Antifa just like the KKK was both founded by Demoncrats so it makes sense.

So you got nothing just like I thought. Abraham Lincoln was a Republican back then too. He would have been run out of the party now. Democrats aren't the ones funding white supremacy now. Pay attention.

They just use it as an excuse to cause harm to people and act unruly.

Let's try this again shall we?

What possible evidence do you or anyone else have that the man who killed the CEO of UnitedHealthcare was in any way affiliated with ANTIFA? Anything? What evidence do you have that any of the people you mentioned were affiliated with ANTIFA?

Like the same harm you wish to inflict by accusing people of belonging to ANTIFA without any evidence it's true?

Trump’s war on the left: Inside the plan to investigate liberal groups......

Powerful Trump aide Stephen Miller key part of crackdown

ICE agents being redeployed to target activist groups

George Soros' charitable network on White House list

Trump using isolated ICE clashes to justify national crackdown

WASHINGTON, Oct 9 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump's threatened crackdown on the finances and activities of liberal non-profits and groups opposed to his agenda is a multi-agency effort with top White House aide Stephen Miller playing a central role, according to officials.

The Trump administration plans to deploy America's counter-terrorism apparatus - including the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security and the Justice Department - as well as the Internal Revenue Service and the Treasury Department against certain left-wing groups it accuses of funding and organizing political violence, the officials said.

The effort marks an escalation in the administration's efforts to target domestic opponents, raising alarm among civil rights groups and Democratic leaders about the use of executive power.

Reuters spoke to three White House officials, four Department of Homeland Security officials and one Justice Department official to produce the first comprehensive account of how decisions are being made, forces deployed, and operations coordinated in the crackdown.

All of the administration officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations more freely.

Miller is deeply involved in reviewing government agencies' investigations into the financial networks behind what the administration labels "domestic terror networks," which include nonprofits and even educational institutions, a White House official said.

The Trump administration has released some examples of what it alleges are incidents of left-wing violence, but it has provided little evidence of a coordinated effort.

"Left-wing organizations have fueled violent riots, organized attacks against law enforcement officers, coordinated illegal doxing campaigns, arranged drop points for weapons and riot materials, and more," the White House said in a statement to Reuters.

Miller did not respond to a request for comment.

'ANTI-AMERICANISM, ANTI-CAPITALISM AND ANTI-CHRISTIANITY'

Two weeks after the September 10 assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, Trump issued a presidential memorandum directing the National Joint Terrorism Task Force to focus on "domestic terrorists" whose common ideologies include "anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity."

Trump's opponents say the focus on liberal and left-wing groups ignores violence by right-wing organizations. They point to the January 6, 2021, violence by Trump supporters at the U.S. Capitol who sought to overturn his 2020 election loss to Democrat Joe Biden. Trump has pardoned most of those convicted of violence that day.

While Trump has frequently blamed violence on left-wing groups, a second White House official noted that the president's directive does not mention them specifically and is aimed at disrupting organized political violence before it occurs.

The official said the "focus remains on violence and illegal activity," and that left-wing groups are free to protest within the bounds of the law.

Trump's sweeping crackdown on migrants has triggered confrontations in U.S. cities between Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents and protesters, including Los Angeles and Chicago. Trump and Miller have claimed protests in which sporadic violence occurs are evidence of domestic terrorism.

Speaking to reporters on Monday, Miller asserted that protesters were engaged in a "continuum of violence" that was part of a larger conspiracy to disrupt federal operations.

WHICH GROUPS ARE TARGETED?

When pressed by a Reuters reporter in the Oval Office on September 25 about potential targets of a domestic terrorism probe, Trump mentioned George Soros - a Democratic donor whose charitable network supports civil rights, education, democracy and other causes - and Reid Hoffman, co-founder of the online professional networking platform LinkedIn and another Democratic mega-donor.

The president did not present evidence of wrongdoing. "If they are funding these things, they're going to have some problems. Because they're agitators and they're anarchists," Trump said.

Hoffman, through a spokesperson, declined to comment.

A spokesperson for Soros' network of charitable foundations pushed back against the president's assertions.

"Neither George Soros nor the Open Society Foundations fund protests, condone violence, or foment it in any way. Claims to the contrary are false," the spokesperson said.

In response to a separate request, the White House highlighted seven political protests in 2023 and 2025 that included acts of violence directed against law enforcement officials, and two incidents of vandalism at Tesla dealerships this year as well as half a dozen social media posts celebrating the damage.

It named nine liberal groups, donors or fundraising organizations that it said helped finance or plan protests where the violent incidents occurred.

While the second White House official stressed that the organizations were not necessarily potential targets, the material provides insight into the administration's thinking.

The list includes Soros' Open Society Foundations; ActBlue, the funding arm of the Democratic Party; Indivisible, a grassroots coalition opposed to Trump policies and the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights, a Los Angeles-based group
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"The goal is to destabilize Soros’ network," a third White House official said.

Ezra Levin, a spokesperson for Indivisible, said the group has never organized or called for violence. "These smears are designed to delegitimize our movement," he said.

Carter Christensen, an ActBlue spokesperson, said Trump's crackdown was an attempt to silence dissent. "We take our legal and civic responsibilities seriously," he said.

Angelica Salas, the executive director of CHIRLA, said the group advocates peaceful engagement. “The Trump Administration continues to spread misinformation and false allegations," she said in a statement. "But it will not work."

Other groups on the list include two Jewish nonprofits that oppose Israel's war in Gaza - IfNotNow and Jewish Voice for Peace. IfNotNow declined to comment, while Jewish Voice for Peace did not respond to a request for comment.

TRUMP'S DIRECTIVES CAUSE CONFUSION

Miller is taking a "hands-on" role in investigating the funding of nonprofits and educational institutions and is sharing recommendations from Attorney General Pam Bondi and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent with Trump and other top advisers, the first White House official said.

The official said Miller is Trump's chief adviser on the issue and is receiving regular updates from the joint terrorism task force - a coalition of federal, state and local law enforcement agencies tasked with investigating terrorism.

A DOJ official declined to elaborate on task force plans but said the FBI's role includes analyzing financial networks for funding of activities involving violent crime.

Potential tools to defund or shut down these groups include IRS investigations to strip them of tax-exempt status; criminal probes by the Justice Department and FBI; surveillance by federal law enforcement agencies; the use of RICO statutes typically used for organized crime and financial investigations under anti-terror laws to identify donors and funders, according to people familiar with investigations and public statements by officials.

"We will continue to get to the bottom of who is funding these organizations," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters on Monday.

Investigating the groups' funding and potentially stripping them of tax-exempt status could force some of them to close down, civil liberty groups say.

Trump last month also signed an executive order designating the anti-fascist movement antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, despite the group's decentralized nature and lack of formal structure.
At an event with conservative commentators and influencers on Wednesday, Trump requested participants to name groups and funders they claim carry out violence, effectively crowdsourcing potential targets in real time. He then vowed to pursue these groups.

The White House also released a list of more than a dozen incidents dating back to 2016 that it alleged were perpetrated by antifa.
A Justice Department spokesperson said the agency will prosecute "those who participate in antifa's criminal acts - including those who fund, supply, and enable these criminals to commit violence and destruction."

Trump's twin directives on domestic political violence have caused confusion; lawyers for the Department of Homeland Security are scrambling to figure out how to implement them legally, according to two DHS officials not authorized to speak publicly.

DHS spokeswoman Tricia McLaughlin said the agency was "fully and faithfully" implementing Trump's directive.

Unlike with international terror groups, there is no legal mechanism to designate a U.S. group with no foreign ties a terrorist organization, legal experts told Reuters.
One of the two DHS officials said many intelligence analysts who used to work on domestic terrorism investigations have taken buyouts as part of Trump's push to cut the size and cost of government, further complicating efforts to target left-wing groups.

Still, ICE in recent weeks directed some investigative agents to focus on domestic terrorism, two ICE officials said. One of the officials said it was part of a broader push to redirect resources to focus on domestic terrorism.

The push against domestic groups and their donors comes amid Trump's attacks on law firms, universities and the media, and his deployment of National Guard troops to some Democratic-run cities.

Democrats and civil society watchdogs say the move is intended to silence opposition, in addition to seeking retribution against his perceived personal political enemies.

Timothy Naftali, a presidential historian and former director of the Richard Nixon presidential library, said Trump and Nixon were similar in their desire to punish political enemies and silence critics, but a pliant Republican-controlled Congress and a cabinet packed with loyalists are enabling Trump to go further.

"That's why this particular moment is more dangerous for the rule of law in the United States than the 1970s were," Naftali said.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/gover...n-investigate-liberal-groups-2025-10-09/

Your supreme leader has continued to even further attack those who stand up against him with as per usual, no evidence to support it.

Now go out and do your job as a good little soldier and spread his hate and rumors to others.

Good. Keep making excuses for Antifa. Your party did the same with the KKK years ago. Same tactics different day. No new ideas.

"My view of America is to conserve the values that has made this country great for 200+ years. This country has always been founded on Christian principles with traditional family values."

We were founded at least in part with a freedom of religion. Or not at all for that matter. But this admin and the Christian Right seems to want to their beliefs down our throat. That's not how it it works.



Don't sit there and speak of Family Values to me. I don't wanna hear that crap from you. Not if you voted for a man that's had 5 kids with 3 different women and cheated on them all. That's BS of the highest order.

"Good. Keep making excuses for Antifa. Your party did the same with the KKK years ago. Same tactics different day. No new ideas."

You still haven't figured it out have you?

Antifa is Anti Facist. Trump is a Facist in the same sense as Benito Mussolini and Hitler...

SO by backing a facist, your trying to tell us that you think El Duce and Hitler were just dandy.


That entire argument demonstrates a lack character.

I find it rather humorous that fascists get all uppity and super defensive when anti-fascist attack them.

If any of them would have tried to make this argument during or shortly after WWII, they'd have been laughed out of existence.

Our Parents or grandparents fought against Facism and now we have Americans defending those that would take away our freedoms.

A bit scary isn't it?

You have no idea what fascism really is. Hitler hated the Jews and persecuted them. What do you think the Free Palestine movement is doing? Removing illegal aliens from the country is not fascism it is protecting citizens. What do you think your parents and grandparents would think if they would see naturally born males calling themselves female and invading women's private spaces? That is noy fascism that is common sense get those mentally ill people help and protect our women.

Here is what real fascism looks like. This is called someone trying to actually take someone Elses free speech away.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rutgers-professor-signs-petition-disband-turning-point-usa-from-campus

Hitler was able to persecute the Jews because he convinced enough people that they were the root of all of the problems plaguing Germany. He made them into a boogieman.

I've learned not to get my hopes up, but if you can't acknowledge the similarities (at least a superficial coincidence), then there's no hope for intelligent dialogue.

What possible evidence do you or anyone else have that the man who killed the CEO of UnitedHealthcare was in any way affiliated with ANTIFA? Anything? What evidence do you have that any of the people you mentioned were affiliated with ANTIFA?

Like the same harm you wish to inflict by accusing people of belonging to ANTIFA without any evidence it's true?

You keep tossing out nothing burgers.