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DeLauter making MLB debut at CF in a must win. Bold move.

Deperate times call for desperate measures when you have multiple players batting under .200

Also, apparently, the sixth player EVER to debut during the playoffs.

And DeLauter biffs his first chance in CF. FFS.

On to Game 3!

Go Guardians!

looks like the Guardians will be playing at 3:08 tomorrow - no matter what else happens.

isn't it 1:08?

Not if LAD closes out the series. DET/CLE would be at 3:08pm EST.

I miss the 'Like' button!

Love seeing the fans react and catchers head drop.

yeah, I also didn't think there was a chance SD, the Reds, and the Yankees would all win today.

I also don't think there is a chance in hell the Reds will win.

We'll just have to see. I'll find it on TV whatever time it is broadcast. Neither time will make much of a difference to me and probably won't impact very many fans with tickets. It's not like they are switching days like the NFL does or switching totally to a night game from a day game.

Love it!

Wahoo! On the warpath now!

It's been fun to watch these young guys breakthrough but I can hep but feel if Santana was on the team we'd have swept the Tigers. Win today and the Naylor Brothers series will be awesome.

Timber. maybe the cheap Dolans will spend more the 100 bucks for some Hitting

well, one more comeback would be needed

How this team even made the postseason is unreal. Problem is ownership is happy with this, refusal to spend any money for better players is off the table until The Dolan sell.

What a bummer. Amazing to have made the postseason with this lineup. Please get a bat this offseason (they won't).

Need Kayfus, Manzardo, DeLauter and Valera to make a big leap next year.

On to the Cavs.

great run. I think next year we will go deep into the playoffs with an influx of talent.

We have a bunch of young talent who should be around for many years to come. Our starting pitching is deep, our bullpen has been excellent this year, and we have a number of young hitters who look like they have real futures. I think that a couple of solid hitters will really propel this team.

I agree on young talent .. Front office / coaching , both in the minors and the big club , are excellent.. We are " Pitching U " ... The prob;em is and has been ownership ! All the Dolans have to is spend some $$ on a couple [ two ] legitimate bats.. I just don't think that's a lot for the fan base to ask for ...

They do spend on players. They just can't spend like a team like the Yankees can. The team knows who they are and what they are capable of. They have made the postseason 7 out of the last 10 years, IIRC. Their players are also assets. They re-signed Beiber, and traded him when he was healthy. It sucks, but that's what a smaller market team does.

We'd all love it, but who could/should they have signed as a bat this past offseason? I'll listen to keeping Naylor another year before trading. Guardians in a bidding war will likely never work out. They have to sign the Josh Bell's of the world an hope they catch lightening in a bottle.

People loathe the Dolans but they consistently deliver a winning and entertaining product that will make the city and its fans proud.

I agree, we did play bad baseball. I am not pointing fingers, but it is ironic that our best player, Jose, had two bad baserunning errors that proved costly.

The first was the rundown out. He made a bad read on the comebacker. Once he committed, he just needed to keep going. Maybe the pitcher makes a bad, rushed throw to the plate. He would have had a better chance doing that rather than getting in to a rundown.

The second error was the bad throw to first. I get that to a degree because he probably thought was was going to be out. None the less, you still need to breakdown after hitting the bag and glance over your right shoulder to see if the ball is loose. Then even worse, after taking off for second on a wide angle, he looked back twice. Every time you look back it costs you a step. Turns out he was thrown out by half a step.

Don't forget about DeLaughter and Valera running into each other in the outfield.

With the infield pop-ups, the pitcher is supposed to call out someones name.

If you cant afford to own an MLB Team ( small market ) then get out.. Always a brides maid , never the bride . just dose not get for me any more. At 77 I am running out of
time.

While I get the frustration, I’m frustrated also by the lack of World Series trophies in my lifetime (54).

However, the Indians/Guardians have made the post season 7 out of the last 10 seasons.. I don’t know how you can “blame” ownership with those results.

The Dodgers have a 13 season streak going, then the next closest is the Astros with 9. Yankees 9, Braves 8, then the Guardians with 7.

They are at the upper echelon of MLB clubs. It’s hard to argue their means of doing business.

I don't agree with this at all. The way baseball is (# of teams and # of games) a team can look competitive during the season and be completely overmatched in the playoffs. I keep remembering back to last playoff series between us and the Yankees. It was like the teams were playing two different games. Guardians had absolutely zero margin for error, while the Yankees had a stacked roster of hitters... a fielding error wasn't back-breaking because you knew they were going to get hits eventually.

Supposedly, as well as the whole Moneyball approach works in-season, the math completely changes in the playoffs. There is a large disparity between the high-payroll/major-market teams and "everyone else".

TIgers/Mariners going 5

I wonder who did this? Jose himself?

WOW , someone else agrees with me ..lol

Onward go the Jays

Cleveland #Guardians Jose Ramirez (7) has appeared in more World Series games than New York Yankees OF Aaron Judge (5) in their careers.

Both are currently 33 years old. Ramirez and the Guardians have been to the playoffs 7 times while Judge and the Yankees have 8 times in their careers.

I think all Guardians fans would love for the team to increase payroll, but it doesn't guarantee anything.

Yankees payroll each season of Judge's career:

2017 - $209,044,502
2018 - $180,098,151
2019 - $223,019,037
2020 - $111,939,081 (Covid adjusted)
2021 - $205,669,863
2022 - $252,957,200
2023 -$278,651,150
2024 - $315,601,274
2025 - $300,187,616

Here are the regular season records of both organizations in all games Ramirez and Judge have played in their careers:

Guardians 899-710 .559%
Yankees 675-530 .560%

None the less, it wouldn't hurt to spend some to get a couple more reliable bats in the line-up.

It doesn't need a blockbuster trade or great players. Just a couple of plus players.. You know, .275/ 80 rbi's/ 25-30 homers.

It's rare when you have the perfect team but when you have a bunch of .220 hitters, you need to do something.

Our best hitter is Kwan, but he is a slap hitter, a table setter, which is great if he is scoring 100 runs a season, but he isn't because people aren't clearing the table behind him.

Kwan should be scoring 100+ runs a season.

$4M? Seriously?

As a former catcher, Vogt probably loves what he brings to the team, even if he doesn't bring a bat to the plate.

I think it would be great if Dolan and Haslam traded teams. I think Jimmy would be a great baseball owner where he had no limits on what he could spend. Dolan on the other hand would be very happy to be in a structured salary situation with salary caps.

What an incredible series this has been.

Just incredible. I am kinda rooting for Toronto. (because of former Guardians, mainly)

The Blue Jays, the city of Toronto, and the country of Canada offer their very sincere thanks to Cleveland, the city and the team....