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In 2021 the Braves won the World Series.
Ronald Acuna got hurt early and was lost for the season.
A bunch of others got injured and also gone. They picked up Eddie Rosario from Cleveland at the trade deadline for a bag of peanuts.
Then traded with KS for Jorge Soler again for next to nothing.
Rosario was MVP for NL Conf series against the Dodgers. Basically won the series.
Soler was the World Series MVP. Soler was gone the next year and Rosario the year after.
I have seen the World Series won by many teams who were not the best team.
In fact that is case more often than not.
MLB has so many factors that can change series. I can site so many cases it would take a book.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I wonder who did this? Jose himself? 
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WOW , someone else agrees with me ..lol
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Good riddance to the Yankees.
They follow the Mets both spent to the gills and fell like rocks over a cliff.
Jets and Giants go NY go.
Money spends well but it doesn't always bring the bacon home.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Cleveland #Guardians Jose Ramirez (7) has appeared in more World Series games than New York Yankees OF Aaron Judge (5) in their careers.
Both are currently 33 years old. Ramirez and the Guardians have been to the playoffs 7 times while Judge and the Yankees have 8 times in their careers.
I think all Guardians fans would love for the team to increase payroll, but it doesn't guarantee anything.
Yankees payroll each season of Judge's career:
2017 - $209,044,502
2018 - $180,098,151
2019 - $223,019,037
2020 - $111,939,081 (Covid adjusted)
2021 - $205,669,863
2022 - $252,957,200
2023 -$278,651,150
2024 - $315,601,274
2025 - $300,187,616
Here are the regular season records of both organizations in all games Ramirez and Judge have played in their careers:
Guardians 899-710 .559%
Yankees 675-530 .560%
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Amazing when you follow the money.
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None the less, it wouldn't hurt to spend some to get a couple more reliable bats in the line-up.
It doesn't need a blockbuster trade or great players. Just a couple of plus players.. You know, .275/ 80 rbi's/ 25-30 homers.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong ![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/small-gator-chomp.gif)
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I totally agree with you and have been saying it for years.
Free agency contracts are strategic moves that are necessary. The Guardians have done little to help.
They are good at player development. But some key moves need to happen at times.
It has been frustrating because they have looked close but always seem a little short in areas.
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I totally agree with you and have been saying it for years.
Free agency contracts are strategic moves that are necessary. The Guardians have done little to help.
They are good at player development. But some key moves need to happen at times.
It has been frustrating because they have looked close but always seem a little short in areas. It's rare when you have the perfect team but when you have a bunch of .220 hitters, you need to do something. Our best hitter is Kwan, but he is a slap hitter, a table setter, which is great if he is scoring 100 runs a season, but he isn't because people aren't clearing the table behind him. Kwan should be scoring 100+ runs a season.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong
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At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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As a former catcher, Vogt probably loves what he brings to the team, even if he doesn't bring a bat to the plate.
I think it would be great if Dolan and Haslam traded teams. I think Jimmy would be a great baseball owner where he had no limits on what he could spend. Dolan on the other hand would be very happy to be in a structured salary situation with salary caps.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. GM Strong
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What an incredible series this has been.
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Just incredible. I am kinda rooting for Toronto. (because of former Guardians, mainly)
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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Just incredible. I am kinda rooting for Toronto. (because of former Guardians, mainly) The Blue Jays, the city of Toronto, and the country of Canada offer their very sincere thanks to Cleveland, the city and the team....
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
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Watching Toronto beat the snot of L.A. right now is a thing of beauty.
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If proven they should never play again.
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If proven they should never play again. We are well past "if".
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Steven Vogt wins Manager of the Year again. 2025 MLB Manager of the Year awards: Brewers' Pat Murphy, Guardians' Stephen Vogt - CBS Sports https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...-francona-thomson-schneider-vogt-wilson/Vogt is AL winner again Steven Vogt of the Guardians has repeated as AL Manager of the Year, as he won the balloting over his fellow finalists John Schneider of the Blue Jays and Dan Wilson of the Mariners. Vogt piloted Cleveland to 88 wins and an AL Central title over the heavily favored Tigers. Vogt's case for the award gained steam down the stretch thanks to a miracle comeback by the Guardians. Cleveland fought back from 15 ½ games out in the AL Central, which made it the largest comeback in the divisional era (i.e., since MLB split into divisions in 1969). As well, Vogt's Guardians trailed the Tigers by 14 games as late as July 9 and by 9 ½ games as late as Sept. 10. Cleveland's 20-7 record in September played a leading role in that comeback and, thus, Vogt's winning of the award. This, of course, is to say nothing of the Guardians' low payroll and very limited commitment to winning from ownership. Vogt has now won the hardware in each of his first two seasons as an MLB manager.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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Start building Jose his statue outside of Progressive Field tomorrow. What a gem.
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I love baseball. It is the game I grew up with and played the most.
Today I read the dodgers signed Kyle Tucker for 4yrs $240.
The dodgers payroll is $420 and $2.11 billion in guarantee salary through 2047 due to deferred contracts.
To my way of thinking that is destructive to MLB. No team should be able to have that kind of competitive advantage over the rest of the teams.
The Guardians payroll around $100. So the Guardians could have three teams and still pay less than the dodgers.
I don't see how this is ok. It pisses me off.
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Unless the Dodgers get hammered with injuries, they will win the World Series. Probably for the next 2 or 3 seasons as well.
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This is why I basically quit baseball. All sanctity is gone.
HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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They are talking about a split season and changes in the playoffs?
The top five payrolls over $300.
The bottom five payrolls under $134.
How can there be competitive balance?
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