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losers lose

Stefanski is a loser. His team loses.

This isn’t rocket science.

Another very winnable game we let get away. You could see it coming. Terrible!!!!!

Our defensive line was supposed to dominate their OL. Not so much. Ward got owned a few times. Gabriel played exactly like I expected, decent game manager. Quinn’s hon is a stud. Stefanski got badly out coached. He should play some Madden so he learns how to use timeouts.

LT and WR really stand out to me as being BAD

We scored our number. 17. Can't go beyond that number. Ever.

Even with the d setting up good FP, clean house AGAIN, all u hear is Kevin is great playcaller , when where don't see it

My biggest question is why our DL couldn’t dominate their OL? Like the defense just didn’t look dominant against a very injured OL. We got some sacks late but not when we need them most. Jefferson did whatever he wanted. Our DB’s aren’t good enough if the DL doesn’t get regular penetration. It should have been priority #1 to hit Wentz like constantly.

Gabriel looked pretty good, not spectacular, but no turnovers is a breath of fresh air. Just needed a little more.

Judkins is a stud.

Special teams weren’t terrible.

The good...Garbriel and Judkins look good. Judkins get an A, Gabriel a B+.

The bad...the LT was garbage. Judey continues to look like a lower level #2 receiver.

As far as the timeout situation, it could have gone either way. Take the 10 seconds and try to put some pressure on by running time down as much as we could, then again, saving time is what gave us at least some sort of chance at the end. Hard to say you could win with either decision.

The middle...the D in general. It wasn't a bad game by any means, but we gave up a lot of chunk plays when we could least afford to give up chunk plays.

Hope for jags to collaspe and use 2 first rounders next year for some weapons and line help

Saw nothing of the game; no streaming service or extra fees are worth following this steaming pile across the pond. Followed the NFL play tracker and here's what I know:

-Browns scored less than 20...again.
-4Q TOP in Browns favor, yet Vikings run 3 more plays than the Browns - Stinkfanski gifting clock time to the opponent makes that possible.
-Every Browns 4Q possession was a Punt (minus the final clock ran out)
-Cleveland seems to be unable to take control of a game and "impose their will" when it's needed most.

Same Stinkfanski story, different year. It seems the only status quo Haslam cares about is keeping his profit margin for his precious new bauble in Brook Park. Otherwise, he's seem OK with mediocre talent and coaching.

Well - those are my 2 Lincolns...see you all next week for our dose of dissappointment.

- A winnable game squandered against a team fielding 2nd and 3rd string offensive lineman. Browns even won the turnover battle 2-0 and still couldn't muster a win.

- I knew something was afoot when I saw Stefanski's new slicked back coif.

- Myles Garrett was not much a factor.

- Judkins is the only chance at an explosive play on offense.

- 10 penalties.

- Gabriel looked poised. Made some nice throws.

- Carson Wentz marched right down the field against the "#1 defense in the NFL"

- The offense still cannot score more than 17 points. It's pitiful.

- Maliek Collins had another nice game.

- Jeudy dropped one that would have gone for a nice gain and extended the drive. He stinks.

- Schwesinger fell for the banana in the tailpipe on the Akers TD throw.

Looking forward to Kev saying, "We own it. We'll learn from it. Players have to play better. Coaches have to coach better. We will be better."

I had to laugh late in the game when he ripped his helmet off because he was open and DG either didn't see him or chose to go another way. Hey Jerry, maybe if your hands, ability to get open and catch concentration were reliable, you might see the ball more.

There's always next year.

I'd take the other Kevin over our Kevin every single day and twice on Sundays.

3 point lead with 3 min left and nothing but run up the middle again, again, again as we did all game ---why did he not call play-action when all we need are two 1st downs??????????

Gabriel played okay. Not bad.

Defense didn't look really good, like they usually do.

Judkins was definitely worth the wait.

Jeudy drops the ball too often.

O line was sketchy again.

I'm not normally on the fire K. stefanski bandwagon, but I am today. 17 pts or less in 10 straight games? season is a bust anyways, let Schwartz finish it out, can't get any worse.

Cam Robinson coming in and getting back-to-back penalties was par for the course.

The Browns have only scored 20 or more points three times in the past 22 games. Abysmal.

Judkins is a stud - thought that during the game and saw that expression used by someone above ... I felt like it was the case when we saw him last game - but he cemented that impression today.

Gabriel - first NFL start. Behind a really bad OL. Against a good D. Played wayyyy better than the 'he played OK' I've seen posted. Dude made some great plays - some of his best plays being to just not lose yards when overwhelmed. He looked good. Rushed some throws which ended up sailing high - but safe.

Jeudy - Barf 🤮 - he can be WR3 next year or not on the team hopefully.

DL - MG .. a bit perplexing how they were so thoroughly neutered. Also how the quick throws didn't get squeezed ... seemed like there was nearly always a guy ready to catch it 4-6 yards up field towards the sidelines.

Newsome flashed on some plays - but Jefferson is probably the best - if not top 3 - WR in the NFL. Wentz played well also... it's an impossible combination to prevent some chunk plays.

It was a great play call and execution on the playaction pass for a TD ... I don't understand why KS didn't use that when we were trying to eek out the clock at the end of the game. Oh - I'd have to go back and check - but did we get pass happy again in the 3rd Q after the run game was working pretty damn well?

On to the Steelers - lets punch them in the throat and hopefully be a bit more aggressive next week and get a W.

Gabriel was serviceable. He did not play bad. He did not lose this game. He did not win it either. With that said he orchestrated Stefanski's offense, did not turn the ball over, and the team still could only muster 17 pts. Pathetic. Stefanski has to be shown the door soon.

we had the ball at our own 40 yard line with 3:30 left, up by 3 and they had a loaded box. I really thought that was the time to run PA or one of our boot plays

In the 3rd quarter the Browns had 10 runs to 3 passes on their lone possession in the 3rd quarter that resulted in a TD.

I thought they might actually score 20 points at this point. Oops!

Where there you go. I looked and we threw more in the 4th Q - but nothing I would describe as pass happy. My bad.

Thrilled the Browns have him locked up for a couple more years.

Jeudy was fine before he got that contract

Berry gave Jeudy a new contract extension days after trading for him.

Kevin needs to go.......maybe we can grab Jerry Neuheisel before UCLA locks him down?
DG looked fine for a first outing. Judkins is improving each game.....

Conservative play calling and soft zone coverage to blow leads at the end of games has been our mantra for decades.

At this point just don't think it will ever change.

Actually if I remember correctly when we got him one of the the last sentences in the article I read about him said something to the effect that he drops the ball a bit too much at times.

I thought the offense played well considering that we starting a rookie QB in his first game with a sub-par Oline and no WRs that can catch a pass. Disappointed in the defense, we were playing freaking Carson Wentz and a very banged up Oline and yet we couldn't get consistent pressure, plus we seemed to have break downs at very crucial times.

especially when you consider it was Jerry Sherk's number

At least some things are coming into shape. We know we have a terrible OL. We know we have terrible WR's. We know we have a rotten coach and GM (but we already knew that). It seems every year when we have a chances to win close games our defense never makes the big play that closes out the game.

I got castrated for saying we need to trade Garrett. Well, we need to trade Garrett and get a massive haul in draft capital. We are nothing to win anything in the next few years so why not trade him?

72 is the worst OL we've ever started (and think about those names .. Roman Oben, Joaquin Gonzalez, James Hudson, etc)

Don't look now but the Steelers have a clear shot for the division title. I can't see any of the teams in our division challenging them.

nope, they'll win it now

If we trade Myles that creates another big hole that we won't be able to fix for 5 years. We need to get out from under the DW contract mess and draft better. At least this year's class looks promising.