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People forget that the mortality of COVID was in the range of 2-4 percent before the vaccine.

That is what made it so deadly. It was new to the world and it would kill people.

The vaccine made a big difference, people would not get covid and if they did, it was not deadly.

Overtime most people have been exposed to COVID. I suspect the number of people that did not get covid and did not get the vaccine is very, very small.

I wonder why all the republicans on Capitol Hill won’t tout those numbers as a huge success?

I have a guess but it’s so obvious I’ll let someone else answer.

Tout what numbers??

Oh, memories....

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Keep it up.

What a joke!! You portraying yourself as a champion of free speech is a bit like Josef Mengele teaching a class on medical ethics in med school.

And of course, don’t talk about a most egregious example of government censorship. Agents of the federal government meet regularly with the executives of on line social networks. They identified authors they do not want published and subjects they do not want to be discussed. The executives of google, Facebook and others acknowledged after the fact that they felt pressure to comply with government “requests”, and so they blocked well known researchers and physicians from putting their work out to the public. Another way of saying that is they censored them. You can live in denial land all you want but most know it is true.

And of course, your nutty treatments and conspiracies was not what was censored. Much of the censored information was perfectly accurate, but didn’t comply with government edict, so they wanted it censored. That should never have happened.

As far as who was forced to take the vaccine, when our military was told they had to take the vaccine if they wanted to keep their positions, those who took it were “forced” to take the vaccine. When our health care workers were told they had to take the vaccine if they wanted to keep their jobs, those who did so were “forced” to take the vaccine. And we lost a lot of great military and great health care workers.

Sadly not once were these people offered the opportunity to demonstrate that they had adequate antibodies because they had already had the virus. Not once did they acknowledge that naturally acquired immunity was superior and if you had it you did not need the vaccine. They just tried to force it on everyone.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!!

j/c... funny how hypocrites always show their true colors.

"well known researchers and physicians"?

Meanwhile we have a former heroin addict and non physician appointing anti vaxers to the national panel and setting national vaccine standards. Keith Richards meets those qualifications. And he's a musician to boot.

So now you have your "well known researcher and physician" in charge. You should be happy now that the inmates are running the asylum.

Since it was you who brought up this being a joke.

Who told you that?

Oh, memories.....

I don't know. He's pretty sick.

The irony gets thicker and thicker and thicker.

Man who tried to assassinate Kavanaugh in 2022 wanted to kill 3 justices, prosecutors say
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nicholas-roske-brett-kavanaugh-sentencing/

Prime examples of the rising base in the Democratic Party.

It's to the point you can't take anything a Democrat says in a serious manner.

Like how Portland is a "war ravaged city"?

Hu-man gar-bage... clap, clap, clap-clap-clap... Hu-man gar-bage... clap, clap, clap-clap-clap...

FAFO.

ANTIFA?

The new buzz word.

Dayumm! Now the only remaining question... will his mommy keep his comic book collection safe while he's in jail??

MURICA !!! Shoot that guy. Knee cap him at least. I mean it was assault with a deadly gob of spittle.

You support spitting at federal agents??

Ohhh - lap up the latest spoon fed agenda !!! yummmmy

https://usafacts.org/articles/which-cities-have-the-highest-murder-rates/

Which cities have the most homicides per 100,000 people?
Large cities whose home counties had the highest homicide rates in 2023 were:

New Orleans, LA (Orleans Parish) -- 46 per 100K
Memphis, TN (Shelby County) -- 41 per 100K
St. Louis city -- 38 per 100K
Baltimore city -- 36 per 100K
Washington, DC -- 36 per 100K

Cleveland? -- 18 per 100K.

Oh and Chicago .... (Online Search) ""Last year, there were about 17 homicides per 100,000 people, down from about 19 in 2023 and 23 the year before that.5 Sept 2025""

hahahahahahahahaha ....

No. But you know - way to manipuilate & misrepresent!!

Oh and C3 looks like a very fair and balanced news source for information. 'Grats.

So, you slam the source and provide your own, which you state as "online search"?


The Chicago Police Department's 2024 Annual Review report indicates an 8% reduction in homicides for the year compared to previous years, with homicide levels (21.4%) at their lowest since 2019.

According to FBI and other analyses cited by BBC and other sources, Chicago's homicide count for 2024 was around 591 according to CPD, with the FBI reporting a lower figure of 461 due to data reporting differences. This equates to a homicide rate approximately 21.4 per 100,000 population, given Chicago's population of roughly 2.7 million.

The White House Press Secretary's statement in 2025 confirms Chicago had the highest murder rate among U.S. cities for seven straight years, including 2024, with the rate being three times higher than Los Angeles and nearly five times higher than New York City.

A detailed working paper on 2024 homicide stats for 24 U.S. cities lists 573 homicides in Chicago in 2024, supporting the murder rate estimate near 21.4 per 100,000.

These sources together provide concrete statistical backing for the 21.4 murder rate per 100,000 in Chicago for 2024. The data is consistent across official police reports, FBI statistics, and independent research analyses.


I'm trying to decide who to trust... MGH, the liberal loudmouth that supports spitting on federal agents ~OR~

The Chicago Police Dept.
The FBI
The White House
the Center for Public Safety Initiatives


Same old, same old... whole lotta huff and puff but no real facts or honest intellectual perspective.

We certainly can't trust the propaganda wing of the MAGA crowd. Which would be you and a few others. The world of manipulation and supporting a dictator is un-American. Carry on.

You are hilarious ... why not get hung up on something that is not the point of my post. -- oh that's right you did ... If you want to use 21.4 per 100,00 - knock yourself out. Hell round it up to 22 per 100,000 .... the point I made (the big point you want to ignore)

New Orleans, LA (Orleans Parish) -- 46 per 100K
Memphis, TN (Shelby County) -- 41 per 100K
St. Louis city -- 38 per 100K
Baltimore city -- 36 per 100K
Washington, DC -- 36 per 100K

Cleveland? -- 18 per 100K.


You keep regurgitating whoever you want from you echo chamber ... knock yourself out. It reflects on you and only you. And when you post stuff indicating how awful the Chicago murder rate is - but then completel;y and utterly ignore that cleveland is nearly right there with CHI and that cities like NO, Memphis and St Loius are DOUBLE the CHI rate (or damn well nearly double) .... it also says everything about you.

^ Makes a stupid statement. Cries when the results of his stupidity are put on display. AKA Monday.

Oh, and your "larger point" is that crime is okay in Chicago because it is worse somewhere else.

That's like telling Browns fans that yesterday's loss is fine because we lost by more the week before.

What a riot! 🤣

Where is "war ravaged" Portland on the list? You know where it's a "war zone"?

I will be more succint for you since you can't follow along. My point is that you are a spoon fed muppet because you are fed what to think by your echo chamber and then you spew it here ... regardless. Chicago is a hot button issue for Trump and MAGA - so here you are posting some crap about the murder rate compared to Afghanistan. What has that got to do with ANYTHING??? Oh other than a manipulation by MAGA to try and justify Trump's current demonization and focus on Dem cities - when in fact many other cities in the US have far higher rates ... AND Chicago's murder rate per capita is not far away from Clevelands - so a little local perspective. Or are you advocating for the National Guard to be sent into CLE?

Stay safe and have a good week.

I'm not advocating for anything.

Neither is that post. Both are showing the idiocy of the fat slob in charge.
That same loser taped himself walking the lakefront at 6am (with his bodyguards) showing people "jogging and enjoying the day" as if it's some evidence that there is no crime problem in Chicago.
That same loser told residents if they didn't like illegal immigrants to "move out".
That same slob just refused to back-up agents when they were surrounded.
Then, when video evidence shows federal agents boxed in by ten vehicles, he calls it "right-wing propaganda".

You all use the same playbook, nobody in their right mind is buying it anymore. That's why you lost in a curb stomp; that's why you'll wander the desert for ten more years.

I didn't see your post about trump? It's not showing up for me.

Loss is fine because Buffalo looked atrocious and fell to NE... would be the better parallel, IMO.

Much better! Plus, look at the Philly loss and the collapse in Arizona!

See, now I feel fine. 🫶