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an Rapoport
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The #Bengals are trading for Joe Flacco, per me and
@TomPelissero

Paving the way for #4 to return.

It's probably all Stefanski's fault.

I'm not sure if he can survive their OL. But we'll see

Shedeur Sanders will still be QB3.

The whole situation with DW is nauseating but if we’re paying him we might as well have him for at least a backup. Dillon should continue to play so we can see what we have.

I just saw an article about this, came to post it and of course I missed my chance again with the breaking news.

He will have one of the best WR tandems in the NFL to throw to, so there is that. Light years better than the WRs he was throwing to here.

The official "yes, we sent the fax" X post...

QB1- Dillon Gabriel
QB2- Deshaun Watson
QB3- Shadeur Sanders

Ah yes, the patented AB pick swap. And that said, getting a 5th rounder for Flacco seems kinda good, no?. Don't get me wrong, I would have preferred 2023 Flacco over a 5th rounder, but it is what it is at this point.

Fun stuff from X...

I'm not sure our current Oline situation (currently on our 3rd and 4th OT and looking outside the building just to get by) is really all that much better than Cinci's (still healthy) at this point. They also have a capable'ish run game. They also have receivers that catch the dang ball.


I actually think he's going to look like he did when he got here the first time.

Maybe, on occasion. He looked night and day to my eyes this year as compared to 2023.

I've never seen him with such "happy feet" in the pocket and he is slow as molasses now.

He took 8 sacks in 5 games in 2023 with the Browns. He took 18 sacks and 20 hits starting 6 games with the Colts last year. I know he's a big dude, but he seems a little gun-shy at this point.

Signing Flacco to be the starter W1, then trade him away after W5. After 4 games Stefanski (or Berry/Jimmy boy if the reports are true) sideline their starting quarterback and a week later they trade him away. That’s next level trolling.

You can’t make this up without starting laughing out load.
So now we have an undersized rookie as our starting quarterback. A third round pick. In his best moments a gunslinger who can dink and dunk 6-7 yarders on a regular basis but against the better defensive lines he’s still only 5’10 or whatever. He played good under the circumstances against the Packers but now the real test starts.

How many losses can he take before we/the media starts to talk about reinstall Watson, or wink wink have to bring out KFC Sanders as our starter.

I have to check the betting odds. Stefanski out or Watson part two in again. What can go wrong? Wow! Just freaking wow.
At least we can’t complain about the Browns entertainment value. A laugh or two, almost every day, minimum,

The offseason QB competition was a silly waste of time.

There is a large faction of the fan base that will start chanting for Sanders at home games. If the Browns lose in Pittsburg and then fall behind against Miami those chants will be coming out. Stefanski has asked for it unless he choose to go back to Watson but then the chants will get louder if Watson plays the same. Gabriel did fine for a first start, but he sure did not look like the long-term answer. Dinking and dunking just won't get it done. You can see the train coming!!!

I get what you're saying... it's not like his body got younger/stronger/faster in that time. But my argument is that our offense as a whole has taken a large step back from 2023 that wasn't rectified by switching the blocking scheme back to what it was before. And that's despite the emergence of Judkins and Fannin. The core elements that made our offense effective before aren't working, and quarterback is, at best, third on that list.

A 5th rounder, hmmm. Anyone remember who we drafted in round 5 this year? The media never mentioned it.

If you want dink and dunk, then maybe you found your guy. I think the best thing I can say is he did not turn the ball over and he ran Stefanski's offense.

I posted earlier in 'What Ifs" that I thought Watson was in play - this solidifies that theory. I also believe that this is another nail in the coffins of Stefanski and Berry. If it doesn't work - bye bye to the duo. I expect Watson to be cleared for practice soon.

I'm not sure what you're asking. We traded Flacco and a 6th for a 5th rounder. They'll get our 2026 6th (actually from Detroit) and we'll get their 2026 5th.

Can't argue with that. I just chalk up a lot of 2023 to the "lightning in the bottle" aspect. Amari Cooper caught 22 passes for 451 yards and three touchdowns in just three games. Njoku seemed to catch everything thrown his way. Joe looked comfy and defenses played on their heels a bit.

This year, defenses teed-off because they knew we had no OL. This year we had Jeudy looking like he was allergic to pigskin.

Didn't see that coming. Good luck Joe.

so we trade a QB who knows our playbook in/out, to a division rival that we still have yet to play later in the year??? that's just...I have no words. To be fair, we both won't be in the playoff hunt so I suppose it doesn't really matter.

My tinfoil hat theory is I bet Joe asked for a trade on the flight back from London knowing he wasn't going to be the starter anymore.

Watching the offense

Not able to score more than 20 points

Do you honestly think Stefanski's play book is going to help any team win ?

This offense is worse than what it was under Hue.

I have told friends at work before the start of training camp

That Watson will start around game 7 and that he will look better than ever

Like him or not, I really think he wants to prove he is better than what we all saw in him before

And I hope if he plays, it's the Watson that was really good

He's probably got all the noise out of his head and is focused again.

I like Gabriel, he is the more mature version of Baker of 2018

I think Sanders is a bit immature by watching him clown around on the side lines during preseason

Got to give him a chance to prove himself.

Idk, just got a gut feeling if Watson gets a chance. He may do very well.

As far as Joe , Help the Browns get out of the basement of the AFCN !!!!!

uh... how could you not?

160 passing attempts = 2 TD's, 6 INT's, 815 yards, and a QBR of 60.3 with a 1 year contract...


Berry is singing "Take The Money And Run"

I'm not worried about Joe knowing giving away the playbook. In the NFL, it's about execution. We aren't executing, so....

It streamlines the QB chatter. We know we're going to get a healthy dose of both rookie QBs this year. They absolutely must answer the question about both of them before the end of the season. Next offseason is the (latest) franchise defining year and they have know the plan right at jump, there can be no real lingering questions. Unless Gabriel somehow overcomes all of our offense's offenses and manages a winning streak in spite of ourselves (which I genuinely hope for), at some point we're going to be treated to Sanders, however ready he is or isn't for probably 2 or 3 games. Point being, Old Joe was never going back in, no matter what the depth chart said. I hope to never see DW grace the field ever again but Joe was more cooked than even he is. And a 5th is better than a 6th. Fare thee well old Joe.

Not saying much , just being sarcastic about a 5th round pick basically in return for Flacco. Implying you don't usually get much with that pick, unless you listen to the media storm this year regarding our 5th rounder. Big swing and a miss on my part.

Now I get you loud and clear. Good stuff! 🤣

Well - on the Browns Joe wasn't going to do much if any better than he had shown so far. So no great loss - but then ... remember when we started DTR and how much worse everything looked. So you never really know.

Joe should look considerably better in Cinci - they have stud WR's and are in better shap even if they have a questionable OL. If he lights it up in Cinci - I would still argue that he wouldn't be any better thatn what he has shown us so far if he had stayed.

It's a commitment to Gabriel who played no worse than Flacco vs MIN - he was better escaping pressure and buying time. So as long as he does not get hurt, I view this trade as good for [1] getting a little value, even low round draft picks have value. Either trading up or potentially adding a player. [2] It commits to finding out what we have in Gabriel before the end of the season. Nothing not to love about this.

Yeah, that dart to Njoku on that TD pass between three defenders looked like some real dink and dunk stuff.

His college highlights showing his arm was posted on this very board. But don't let facts get in the way of your BS. His arm is fine.

Dink and Dunk isn't the KS offense.It is a direct result of crappy oline play.One complaint i had about KS was his unwillingness to adapt to circumstances.
perhaps he's grown.

Did you see the last play of the game. Most teams throw a hail Mary from mid field and try to get a miraculous touchdown. Our QB did not have the arm strength from mid field to reach the end zone, so they threw short. You can't make this stuff up it is just hard to watch. Dink and dunk all game long and throw short of the end zone on last play of the game. Gabriel did fine not turning the ball over. If that is what you want. Dink and dunk and protect the ball. Then he is your guy.

I agree. Flacco had no future value to us so getting a higher 5th for a lower 6th round pick is a good thing. With good scouting and a little luck, you can still find starting type players in the 5th round. After that the luck factor increases greatly.

No, dink and dunk probably won't work. Part of that is Stefanski's nature, part of that was a coach protecting his rookie QB in his first start behind a weak O line.

Unless the Oline starts to figure things out we are probably going to see much of the same. Plus, we don't know how many of the calls last week weren't intended to go deeper but the QB was forced into throwing a underneath route due to a collapsing pocket or receivers being unable to shake coverage.