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Very winnable win

The four game win streak is against the Panthers Bills Titans and Saints.

The Raiders and Steelers are the two losses.

The win against the Bills would be the only maybe upset. As the 4-2 Bills beat the Ravens Jets Dolphins and Jets

Vrabel hasn't been running TreVeyon Henderson much. 43 atts for 153 Yds, that's what ? 3.6 Yds a carry

The Browns defense should be the best D the Pats have faced thus far.

Pressure Maye, Take away the pass game to Diggs.

Henderson will get carriers. Got to stop the speedster at the line. He has break away speed.

Vrabel being in a position last season with the Browns will make the game a...

Who out coaches who game in a slight way.

The Browns really need a win going into the bye

And I need a bye as well !

LOL !!

It's going to come down to our defense shutting them down AND generating turnovers, and how our offense can get something going against a tough D. We are going to have to get Judkins going early and often and using our TEs to keep the chains moving. I don't like their defense against our offense... we are going to have to see something from our offense that we haven't before (either the Oline dominating in the run game or our passing game actually doing something).

I expect the same lousy offense. Behind the chains, and passing too much.

I was getting ready to post pretty much the same thing until you summed it up.

I’ll add that Maye is likely to face a rougher, tougher sled this week. He hasn’t had Garrett barrelling down from his blind-side. We have one of the best fronts in football, let’s make his afternoon problematic.

I’m not sure how we can unleash a passing game that threatens them. Or anyone else.

Win the turnover battle, keep things tight until the fourth quarter. We might have a shot.

I tried to find out when the last time we beat NE on the road. Apparently, the internet hadn't been invented.

I think we'll do well on D - we just can't keep getting short possessions on Offense making it harder for the D. Even good defenses give up chunk plays. Obvioulsy no turnovers on offense unless it is deep into Pats territory - I don't mind throwing up a bomb inside their 20 and seeing it picked. That's essentially the same as a punt sometimes provided everyone is alert to prevent the return.

Like last week - I have no problem pounding the ball even if run yards are hard to come by. Judkins seems to find a way to shed first contact even behind the line and get a yard when a play is completely blown up.

Would like to see some more roll outs and some slightly deeper throws - Gabriel seems to throw exceptionally well on the move.

Suspect we will need 20 points to win. . . if ST and D can help out with field position or a turnover or two - we can win.

Maye is a good player, really coming into his own. We haven't played well in NE of late either

14/18 on deep balls of 25+ air yards. Pretty good!

And on the flipside, Gabriel is 1 of 4 on throws over 20 yards . Gabriel lacks the ability
To challenge secondaries. He is a pure horizontal thrower.
Not exactly the trait of a franchise QB. Gabriel limits this offense severely

toss the Bills game out , week 4 and 5 Bills always have that dip for years now, played the worst game ever and still lost at the gun. Pats are due for a letdown. Browns should at least keep it close.