This is surprising? I mean, people are actually shocked that months and months of screaming like toddlers and the ensuing temper tantrum
While it's accurate to state this about trumpians it's not nice and goes against everything it seems you have stood for lately.
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Maybe go back to the not-stop "Nazi!" and "threat to democracy!!".
Someone needs to keep telling the truth. It might as well be us. You do realize the more he does and the more he opens his mouth the easier it is for most people to see this, right?
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All this fake outrage from the MAGA Karens .... the Dems doing EXACTLY what the republicans have done multiple times in the past. It would be funny if it wasn't for the results and impact on the country.
But ... blaming the Dems for everything no matter what is very much a Rep play ... reminds me of denying Obama his supreme court nominee then rushing thru those under Trump in less time. The hypocrisy is STRONG.
And another post from another rando. The trifecta!! Whoop Whoop.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Yes let's end it. Stop trying to double insurance premiums on Americans and then blaming others for trying to stop you. Trump used to say a president should negotiate with the other side to find a solution. Now that he is president he says something else. That all begins and ends at the top.
Which time was he lying............ again?
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What is the dems' plan for getting rid of Fetterman? He's been making way too much sense lately.
I'm not sure yet. Maybe they should look at trump's playbook of how he got rid of government oversight, gets rid of using congress to enact laws or orders and has the DOJ arrest his political opponents. That may be a good starting point.
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With SNAP benefits set to halt, Thune says he can't clarify Trump's plan to fund program
Trump signaled his administration may find a solution to help fund SNAP.
With critical food assistance benefits set to run out in just a few days, Senate Majority Leader John Thune on Wednesday weighed in on President Donald Trump's comment that his administration may find a solution to help fund the program, as lawmakers appear sympathetic, but still entrenched.
The Department of Agriculture said earlier this week that Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program benefits, which serve roughly 42 million low-income Americans, will not be issued on Nov. 1 amid the ongoing government shutdown.
On Tuesday night as he traveled to South Korea, Trump signaled his administration may find a solution to help fund SNAP, saying "we’re going to get it done," without offering any details on how.
At the same time, Trump blamed Democrats for putting Americans at risk of losing critical federal food assistance this weekend.
"The Democrats have caused the problem on food stamps ... because all they have to do is sign, and, you know, they sign, I'll meet with them,” Trump said.
Asked about Trump's SNAP benefits comments, Thune told reporters on Wednesday that he spoke to Trump on Tuesday, but didn't have insight into what his comments meant.
"I think that what he is saying consistently is 'Open up the government and then we' -- and that's the way to fund SNAP," Thune said.
Republican Sen. Josh Hawley has a new bill that would fund SNAP during the shutdown. While several Republican senators support it, Thune has appeared lukewarm about bringing it to the floor.
Asked if Trump's comments were an endorsement of bills like Hawley's that would fund SNAP during the shutdown, Thune said he wasn't sure if that's what Trump was referring to.
"I think the message that he and the rest of the White House, including JD yesterday, have delivered pretty clearly is 'Open up the government and that's the way to fund SNAP and everything else.' If he's got something else he's thinking about, I'll certainly be open to listening to that," Thune said.
On Wednesday morning, House Speaker Mike Johnson warned that the impacts of the government shutdown this week -- including a possible food crisis as well as missed paychecks for federal workers and air traffic controllers -- are "getting really tough for the American people," placing the onus squarely on Democrats.
"The Democrats are coming near now to a cliff that they will not be able to turn back from,” Johnson said at a news conference in the Capitol. "You've got families and children that rely upon SNAP benefits that are going to go hungry here at the end of the week."
As Democrats continue their fight over health care subsidies as the Nov. 1 open enrollment date approaches, Trump said Tuesday night that he would work with Democrats -- as long as they vote to fund the government.
"I’d say, open up the government and we’ll work it out," Trump told reporters.
Democrats are working to balance their health care demands and find solutions for SNAP, with Democratic Sen. Ben Ray Luján on Wednesday introducing legislation that would direct the USDA to release available contingency funds to ensure benefits under SNAP and the Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) program continue during the shutdown.
Thune blocked the effort Wednesday afternoon -- shouting at times as he argued on the Senate floor that if Democrats want to fund SNAP and other programs, they ought to vote to reopen the government to fund all programs.
"Let me just point out if I might that we are 29 days into a Democrat shutdown. And the senator from New Mexico is absolutely right. SNAP recipients shouldn't go without food. People should be getting paid in this country," Thune said before escalating his voice to a full scream. "And we've tried to do that 13 times and you voted no 13 times. This isn't a political game. These are real peoples lives that we are talking about and you all have just figured out 29 days in that, 'Oh there might be some consequences, that people are running out of money.'"
Lujan's bill came as 25 states have filed a lawsuit on the issue ahead of the halting of benefits at the start of November.
"The Trump administration has the authority and the funds to keep SNAP running during this shutdown," Lujan said. "Any failure to do so right now falls squarely on the Trump administration and Republicans."
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said health care and SNAP together need to be addressed.
"Right now, we're staring down the barrel at two crises at once. A health care crisis and a hunger crisis,” Schumer said in a press conference Wednesday afternoon.
"We don't want to pit health care and food. Thank you. We think you can have both," he later shouted.
Schumer has continued to call on Republicans to “sit-down and negotiate with us” to reopen the government and address the health care crisis.
Thune told reporters Wednesday morning that discussions over a path out of the shutdown have "ticked up significantly" and that he's "hopeful" that something fruitful will soon emerge.
"It's ticked up significantly," Thune said of talks among rank-and-file members. "And hopefully that'll be a precursor of things to come. But yeah, there's a lot of higher-level conversation."
Thune stressed that conversations are going on among rank-and-file members and not among leadership.
"There are a lot of rank-and-file members that continue to, I think, want to pursue solutions and to be able to address the issues they care about, which is including health care, which as I just said right there we are willing to do, but it is obviously contingent upon them opening up the government."
Thune refuses to take a vote to fund SNAP when enough Republicans supported it to have enough votes to pass. Willing to starve Americans in a political game while claiming they shouldn't be playing political games. The bill was brought before him by a republican, Hawley, not a Democrat.
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Judge in SNAP Case Tells Trump Admin To ‘Stretch That Emergency Money’
A federal judge in Boston signaled Thursday that she may order the Trump administration to pay food assistance benefits to tens of millions of Americans who are at risk of not getting their November payments because of the government shutdown.
Why It Matters
Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) payments are issued monthly to nearly 42 million low- and no-income Americans. The U.S. Department of Agriculture has confirmed these benefits will not be paid until the shutdown ends.
That decision has prompted legal action from state leaders over whether contingency funds—estimated to be between $5 billion and $6 billion—held by the USDA can be used to pay for food stamp benefits in the absence of regular appropriations. Leaders from 25 Democratic-led states and Washington, D.C., have sued the federal government over the matter.
What To Know
Speaking at a hearing in litigation brought by state leaders on Thursday, Judge Indira Talwani of the U.S. District Court for Massachusetts said: “Right now, Congress has put money in an emergency fund for an emergency, and it’s hard for me to understand how this isn’t an emergency when there’s no money and a lot of people are needing their SNAP benefits."
“Congress told you what to do if there is no money. You need to figure out how to stretch that emergency money for now," Talwani, who was appointed by former President Barack Obama in September 2013, continued.
USDA vs. The States
SNAP is a mandatory program, but it depends on federal appropriations for funding. With those funds on hold during the ongoing shutdown, the USDA has said benefits cannot be issued.
A September 2025 USDA shutdown plan states there is a "bona fide need to obligate benefits for October—the first month of the fiscal year—during or prior to the month of September, thereby guaranteeing that benefit funds are available for program operations even in the event of a government shutdown at the beginning of a fiscal year. These multiyear contingency funds are also available to fund participant benefits in the event that a lapse occurs in the middle of the fiscal year."
But an October 24 USDA memo argues that "SNAP contingency funds are only available to supplement regular monthly benefits when amounts have been appropriated for, but are insufficient to cover, benefits. The contingency fund is not available to support FY 2026 regular benefits, because the appropriation for regular benefits no longer exists."
The states’ lawsuit counters that "USDA suspended SNAP benefits even though, on information and belief, it has funds available to it that are sufficient to fund all, or at least a substantial portion, of November SNAP benefits."
It also notes the USDA has used other funds to continue certain services during the shutdown, such as redirecting money to deliver farmer aid and reopen roughly 2,100 Farm Service Agency offices, and using Section 32 funds to temporarily support the WIC program. However, the lawsuit says the USDA has opted not to use similar authorities to continue SNAP benefits.
What People Are Saying
Dottie Rosenbaum, senior fellow and director of federal SNAP policy and the center-left think tank The Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, said: "Under past shutdowns, during both Republican and Democratic administrations, SNAP benefits have always been provided using available funding sources to prevent a break in benefits. While it is not clear whether past administrations used the contingency reserve or instead used other available funding sources, making use of the contingency reserve unnecessary, the guidance documents from past shutdowns or near-shutdowns make it clear that the SNAP contingency reserve was available to cover regular SNAP benefits."
Republican Speaker of the House of Representatives Mike Johnson said earlier this week: "There has to be a preexisting appropriation for the contingency to be used, and Democrats blocked that appropriation when they rejected the clean continuing resolution.
"The best way for SNAP benefits to be paid on time is for the Democrats to end their shutdown."
What Happens Next
As it stands, unless the government shutdown ends or the legal intervention by state leaders is successful, SNAP benefits for November will not be issued.
It seems like the Republicans are using the Netanyahu approach. If you can't beat them by fighting fair just starve them out. The money is there but they refuse to use it. Choosing to starve Americans as a political ploy? I'll let all of you determine what to call that.
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Meanwhile Thune refused to bring a Republican sponsored bill to the floor for a vote which had the votes to pass in order to feed needy Americans which had never been done in the history of government shutdowns. SNAP and food benefits have always been made available during government shutdowns. Meanwhile trump is firing federal workers during the shut down which has never been done during a government shutdown before. Pretending that Republicans aren't using this shut down to punish America is a foolish notion while trying to place all of the fault on the democrats.
#truthbomb
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Other than the increasing duration of the shutdowns (which seems to be following a consistent trend), can someone explain to me why we should disagree with the reasons behind this shutdown vs the reasoning behind the last one?
My understanding is that, in general, people agreed/disagreed with the political arguments that led to their respective shutdowns along party lines.
Why would one feel the need to shut down the government over ACA and NOT over funding the Border Wall (or vice-versa)?
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Judges say Trump administration must continue paying some SNAP benefits during shutdown
Washington — Two federal judges on Friday said the Trump administration must tap into contingency funds to make payments for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program during the government shutdown, ruling against the government in a pair of suits over the imminent benefits lapse. Roughly 42 million Americans rely on SNAP to help buy food.
In a case brought by a coalition of states in federal court in Massachusetts, Judge Indira Talwani ruled that the government is required by law to tap into the emergency money to make at least partial payments, and gave the administration until Monday to tell the court whether it planned to do so.
In Rhode Island, another federal judge granted a request for a temporary restraining order from a group of municipalities and nonprofits who sued to block the imminent funding freeze, according to attorneys for Democracy Forward, the group leading the suit. The ruling was made from the bench. An entry on the case docket said the court "orders the USDA to distribute contingency funds" and report back to the court by noon on Monday.
In her ruling, Talwani stopped short of ordering the administration to send SNAP payments on Saturday, but she rejected the government's argument that the $5 billion contingency fund cannot be used to fund benefits during the lapse in appropriations.
"At core, Defendants' conclusion that USDA is statutorily prohibited from funding SNAP because Congress has not enacted new appropriations for the current fiscal year is erroneous," Talwani wrote. "To the contrary, Defendants are statutorily mandated to use the previously appropriated SNAP contingency reserve when necessary and also have discretion to use other previously appropriated funds."
Talwani wrote that "the court will allow Defendants to consider whether they will authorize at least reduced SNAP benefits for November, and report back to the court no later than" Monday.
SNAP benefits provide eligible families with an average of $187 a month on a prepaid card for food purchases. Many families rely on those benefits as their main source of money for food. The Trump administration said money for the program was due to expire on Saturday because of the ongoing government shutdown, now on its 31st day.
The suit in Massachusetts was brought by two dozen states and the District of Columbia earlier this week. They asked the court to require the administration to tap into the emergency funds to keep SNAP money flowing to states, which administer food stamp programs. The states argued that the administration's decision to cut off payments was unlawful and threatened to deprive millions of Americans of essential food benefits that help protect against food insecurity and hunger.
"Shutting off SNAP benefits will cause deterioration of public health and well-being," state officials wrote in their lawsuit. "Ultimately, the States will bear costs associated with many of these harms. The loss of SNAP benefits leads to food insecurity, hunger, and malnutrition, which are associated with numerous negative health outcomes in children, such as poor concentration, decreased cognitive function, fatigue, depression, and behavioral problems."
The U.S. Department of Agriculture, which oversees SNAP, said in a memo last week that "the well has run dry" and that November benefits would not be paid without an end to the shutdown. Administration officials and Republicans in Congress have said that the roughly $5 billion in the contingency fund could not legally be used to cover the shortfall.
"By law, the contingency fund can only flow when the underlying fund is flowing," Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said at the Capitol on Friday.
Talwani, the judge in Massachusetts, rejected that argument in her ruling: "[U]nder Defendants' statutory construction, the use of the separately appropriated contingent reserve to fund SNAP benefits is somehow predicated on Congress's annual appropriation of funds to the SNAP program. Congress placed no such restrictions in the 2024 Consolidated Appropriations Act."
She wrote that the suspension of SNAP payments to the states was "based on the erroneous conclusion that the Contingency Funds could not be used to ensure continuation of SNAP payments."
"This court has now clarified that Defendants are required to use those Contingency Funds as necessary for the SNAP program," the judge wrote. "And while these contingency funds reportedly are insufficient to cover the entire cost of SNAP for November, Defendants also may supplement the Contingency Funds by authorizing a transfer of additional funds ... to avoid any reductions."
It's hard to answer that question in a legitimate fashion without acknowledging the absolute ridiculousness of a "government shutdown" in the first place.
To be true to your questions is to simply admit that from top to bottom we tend to toe the line with our tribe. I'm also not real sure what you mean by "people", whether it's John Q or the dolts in Washington. I could get into the differences between the last shutdown and this one, but it really wouldn't solve much. If you want to discuss the ACA debacle, I'll do that in another post.
The first thing we need to do is have automatic CRs to keep the gears turning when these petulant children in Washington can't agree on implementations of new appropriations.
The next thing we need to do is take away the pay of these whiney-ass puppets that play games with American's well-being. And by that I also mean they get paid LAST, because nobody seems to remember the damage this caused to the SNAP infrastructure last time and the fact that people in need had several payments delayed by up to 50 days during the reconciliation. I don't know how that's possible, but we're talking about a government that's run about as well as a crack addict could run a pharmacy.
So, while we're at it, let's stop payment to these idiots if they don't adhere to stricter and clearer deadlines and add consequences for missed deadlines when it comes to budget appropriation as a whole.
Along those lines, we really need to get rid of all these end arounds and poison pills that exist in Washington as a whole. This isn't dungeons and dragons.
We also need to streamline spending bills and make these packages much smaller. I don't care if they have to vote on new $%$ every week. I'm tired of omnibus spending bills and 8000 page encyclopedias that are handed to congress. Quit bundling everything. Cap these bills at 100 pages. I know it sounds extreme and someone much smarter than me will pat me on the head and try to explain that this streamlines things; no, it doesn't, it complicates everything and allows these snakes to pull the wool over our heads while they waste all of our money. Want to pass a bill? Not until someone has stood at a podium and read the entire thing on CSPAN -- and if you don't attend and listen to every word, you don't get paid for that month.
I actually agree with most of what you posted. I will make a comment about your tribe comment. I think for the most part you are correct. In a lot of cases I think that has to do with both sides trying to paint things as black and white without admitting there are shades of gray which there certainly almost always is. At that point I think everyone tends to pick a side.
Yesterday provided evidence to me that's not always the case however. Some of them think there are certain things that outweigh the tribe. It's true that's not nearly the case as often as it should be or that enough of them act that way but it was evidence that it happens.
Yesterday Republican Josh Hawley introduced a bill to extend SNAP benefits before the senate. There were a total of 15 Republicans willing to vote for the bill along with all Democrats which would insured it would pass.
Republican Senate Majority Leader John Thune refused to bring the bill up for a vote.
At the point when it comes to feeding hungry Americans it appears that at least for some, certain things take priority over the tribe.
Now we can sit here and play the tribe game as to how we got to this point but what we can't ignore is when there was an opportunity to solve it some stepped up and some didn't.
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You might want to rethink your beliefs on this video.
It's not an indictment of Dems, it's a continuation of an indictment against MAGA.
Without a doubt, it's saying, Dems are holding out to continue the ACA subsidy. That's absolutly true 100%.
What's wrong with that? They wanna keep premiums low.. MAGA wants nothing more than to find a round about way to kill the ACA even if most of those on it are Republican voters that supported Trump and his sick agenda.
#GMSTRONG
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I wondered how brilliant MAGA minds would twist this to ‘protect the pedos’ shut down that Trump INITIATED and is now ready to end democracy to keep going. I guess pedos are only bad when they are dems…. Because MAGA protects them all.
I did mean the dolts, but also those adjacent to them (the mouthpieces and those beholden to their tribe).
I'm not sure there's a better example of Repubs and Dems being the same than what we're seeing here. It's not (and never has been) a "right vs left" thing. It's politicians against the people. It's politicians not being able to execute the absolute bare minimum of their job descriptions, giving the illusion of necessitating extreme measures like a govt shutdown. It's so obvious having experienced a couple of these go down and watching politicians play the same character(s) as those from across the aisle during the previous shutdown... they put the masks on that their adversaries had just put down. Each time, the two sides follow the same script, even though they're playing different parts each time.
And the citizenry, overall, keeps falling for it.
Yes, we are essentially saying the same thing... but your post looked fun and I wanted to rant too.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
SNAP benefits must be fully paid by Trump administration by Friday, judge orders
A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Trump administration to pay full SNAP benefits for November by Friday, rejecting the administration’s plan to partially fund the food stamp program for 42 million Americans during the U.S. government shutdown.
“People have gone without for too long,” Judge Jack McConnell said during a hearing in U.S. District Court in Rhode Island, where he issued the order.
McConnell said the Trump administration, which had already agreed to tap a congressionally authorized contingency fund to pay partial SNAP benefits, must also use so-called Section 32 funds that it had refused to tap earlier this week.
“The evidence shows that people will go hungry, food pantries will be overburdened, and needless suffering will occur” if SNAP is not fully funded, said McConnell.
He noted in a written order that more than half of the program’s recipients are children, seniors and veterans.
“While the President of the United States professes a commitment to helping those it serves, the government’s actions tell a different story,” McConnell wrote.
“Faced with a choice between advancing relief and entrenching delay, it chose the latter — an outcome that predictably magnifies harm and undermines the very purpose of the program it administers.”
The order came after plaintiffs in the case urged him to reject the plan to pay only partial benefits, which the administration disclosed in a court filing in Providence on Monday.
The Trump administration later Thursday asked the 1st Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals to overturn the judge’s new order, as well as an order he issued Friday directing the administration to make partial benefit payments as soon as possible.
McConnell at the hearing pointed to a Truth Social post by President Donald Trump, who on Tuesday said that SNAP benefits “will be given only when the Radical Left Democrats open up government, which they can easily do, and not before!”
Trump’s post seemed to contradict statements by administration lawyers that the benefits would be partially paid for the month.
The White House later said there was no change in that plan, but also said it would take time to issue the partial benefits to recipients.
McConnell said that Trump’s post was effectively an admission that the administration intended to defy his prior order to seek out all possible funding sources so that full benefits could be paid.
The Trump administration last week said it would not use the contingency fund containing $4.65 billion to fund the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program in November. The total cost of full SNAP benefits for the month is around $8 billion.
The program, like other federal programs, has no currently appropriated money, as a result of Congress failing to pass a spending bill. That failure led to the U.S. government shutting down on Oct. 1.
Past presidential administrations have continued paying SNAP benefits during prior shutdowns.
A group of cities, charitable and faith-based non-profit groups, unions, and business organizations sued the administration, seeking to force it to use the contingency funds and potentially other money to fund SNAP.
SNAP benefits have always been paid before during government shutdowns because no former president has been disgusting enough to make Americans go hungry as a political tool. But this waste of flesh is.
40 billion dollars to Argentina? No problem. Feeding hungry Americans? Appeal it in court! What a POS.
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SNAP Benefits: Trump Admin Tries to Block Full Payments in November
The Trump administration has requested an emergency stay of a court order that requires it to pay the full SNAP benefits for November by transferring funds from elsewhere amid the ongoing federal government shutdown.
"This is a crisis, to be sure, but it is a crisis occasioned by congressional failure, and that can only be solved by congressional action," said the administration's latest appeals court filing in the first circuit.
"Instead, a single district judge has devised his own solution: ordering USDA to cover the SNAP shortfall by transferring billions of dollars that were appropriated for different, equally critical food-security programs—and to do so within just one business day (i.e., by today).
"This unprecedented injunction makes a mockery of the separation of powers. Courts hold neither the power to appropriate nor the power to spend."
Trump Admin Says It Will Pay SNAP Benefits in Full in November
The Trump administration said in a memo to states Friday that it is working to comply with a federal court order requiring full November food Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) payments.
The Agriculture Department (USDA) said it would “complete the processes necessary” to make funds for SNAP available later in the day, according to a memo obtained first by Politico and posted to X by members of the Washington, D.C., media.
The announcement followed the administration’s request Friday for an emergency stay from the 1st Circuit Court of Appeals.
Payments have been halted as the federal government shutdown drags into its second month, with the USDA saying in a notice on its website that “the well has run dry” and no benefits would be issued on November 1.
Here is why trump claimed Republicans lost those elections. Of course the first one was ego driven surprise, surprise. But anyway................
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“‘TRUMP WASN’T ON THE BALLOT, AND SHUTDOWN, WERE THE TWO REASONS THAT REPUBLICANS LOST ELECTIONS TONIGHT,’ according to Pollsters,” Trump wrote on Truth Social on Tuesday.
You don't lose an election over a government shutdown unless you are the party most voters blame for a government shutdown. Maybe someone actually managed to get the message through that making all these people go hungry actually hurts not only himself but the Republican party as a whole.
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