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Browns | Anderson to open season as starter
Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:25:08 -0800 KFFL.com
Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage said QB Derek Anderson will be the team's starting quarterback heading into the 2008 season.
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Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:24:23 -0800
Mary Kay Cabot, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns general manager Phil Savage said the team plans to extend the contract of head coach Romeo Crennel and something could happen in the next few days.
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and so it goes.. more posturing for D.A ?
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Browns GM Savage says Crennel's contract will be extended soon; names Anderson starting QB for next season Posted by Mary Kay Cabot January 09, 2008 12:28PM Complete story here.. http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/01/cleveland_browns_set_to_begin.htmlRomeo Crennel is 20-28 in three seasons.The Browns plan to extend the contract of coach Romeo Crennel, as early as the next few days, Browns general manager Phil Savage said during his post-season news conference today in Berea. "We have every intention of doing something with Romeo and we'll do right by him,'' said Savage. "Hopefully it will be addressed in the next few days. If not, then in the next few weeks.'' Savage said he's open to options, including a multi-year extension. Crennel is under contract for two more seasons. Savage also said that Derek Anderson is the starting quarterback heading into next season. Savage said Anderson has earned the chance to be the Browns starting quarterback again in 2008, following his breakout 2007 season, in which he was named a Pro Bowl alternate. He said the Browns feel Anderson should have "a chance to go into the batter's box and swing for the fences next years. Our expectation is that he'll hit some home runs for us.'' Savage said, in effect, that this means both Anderson and Brady Quinn are off the market for 2008. Crennel had said earlier that Anderson was the starter as of now, but that the team would listen to offers. Savage also acknowledged that the Browns have contacted the agents for Jamal Lewis and Anderson and will begin negotiations to extend their contracts as soon as this week. "We have a couple of different options for Derek," said Savage. "We're more apt to want to do something with Derek that would take him beyond the 2008 season. We want to go into next season with both of our quarterbacks, plus Ken Dorsey intact. We want to make sure we stay strong at that position for at least one more year." Lewis' contract is up after this season and Anderson is set to become a restricted free agent if he's not re-signed by the end of the February. Lewis has said he'd love to be back and would be flexible on his contract structure.
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Soooooo... we're not resigning him or we are? I really wish Mary Kay would give us something to go on instead of just Savage "said this". She does tend to reach with a lot of her information and until I hear it from the horse's mouth, I'm skeptical.
Edit: This just doesn't seem like it makes much sense in my opinion. Why keep 3 long-term QBs on your roster? It just seems so strange that we would do this. And by naming him the starter for opening day, you rule Quinn completely out of the equation for 2008. It eliminates controversy, but doesn't give Quinn a chance to show what he can do. When, if ever, will that day come? Don't get me wrong, I'm not pulling for one or the other. This is all just very puzzling.
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From the Horse himself... Looks like D.A is here to stay according to Savage.
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I posted this earlier in another thread. I really don't think we need another QB or Crennel thread. 
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Until we actually sign him to an extension or we just tender him, then I'll make up my mind.
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From the Horse himself... Looks like D.A is here to stay according to Savage.
I'm interested to see the contract that they get worked out for him.
I understand wanting to go into next year with both guys, but that could be due to a number of reasons.
I think the contract will tell us a lot. I'm really surprised DA is already being named the starter.
That sounds like no qb competition to me.
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From the Horse himself... Looks like D.A is here to stay according to Savage.
Yeah, I replied too soon to the first post and didn't see the second one with the article until it was posted.
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I posted this earlier in another thread. I really don't think we need another QB or Crennel thread.
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I realize Savage might still feel the burn from the QB situation in camp and on opening day, but come on, this is overkill. Why does the starting QB need to be declared NOW???
W/ the media and fans in a full blown frenzy over our QB situation, I start fearing we are going to have a negative outcome even if we keep both QBs.
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So which is it Mary Kay?
To open the season, (which implies the first game), or heading into the season, (which goes right up to but doesn't include an actual game).
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Maybe it's just me but doesn't a guy have to be under contract to be named a starter?
IMO, this reeks of posturing - letting people know that the team has no intentions of playing Quinn because we value DA that much. Do you really think teams would be interested in trading for him or matching a tender for him if Savage came out and said "Well, DA was alright for us, but we really want to see what Brady can do."?
I'll believe this when I see it.
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Yeah, she definitely likes to stir the pot doesn't she? She's the only one that has been reporting of RAC getting an extension too. She made everyone believe it was in the works and then RAC's agent had to come out and clear the air. I don't trust her.
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Maybe it's just me but doesn't a guy have to be under contract to be named a starter?
He is under contract until the end of '08. He's a RFA right now.
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Savage also said that Derek Anderson is the starting quarterback heading into next season.
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"We have a couple of different options for Derek," said Savage. "We're more apt to want to do something with Derek that would take him beyond the 2008 season. We want to go into next season with both of our quarterbacks, plus Ken Dorsey intact. We want to make sure we stay strong at that position for at least one more year."
These are the sentiments I have expressed. Sign him and go into next season with both. If Brady beats him out we still can trade him. His value will still be high because every season teams are not happy with their QB situations. If we hold firm on what we would want for him I think it is still a strong possibility we can get a good price. That is if we feel we need to get rid of him.
This is all subject to being able to sign him. It may not be that easy of a task. We might end up having to let a team sign him to an offer sheet that we won't match. We don't know what kind of value he thinks he is worth. This whole drama is just starting, not ending. 
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These ARE quotes from Savage himself during his latest press conference. Should be up on the home site soon.
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I realize Savage might still feel the burn from the QB situation in camp and on opening day, but come on, this is overkill. Why does the starting QB need to be declared NOW???
All buisinessmen play chess games. To actually believe Quinn won't "get his shot" next year at the starting QB position is a fools dream. But it's a nice thing to "say" to keep DA's stock high.
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Um, and since when is it Savage's call as to who is the starter? I see this simply as more posturing. Let other teams really think we're high on DA. Heck, maybe we are.
But, he also didn't say anything that we shouldn't already know. DA did well enough for us this year, why shouldn't he be considered the starter going into the '08 season? If Quinn outplays him in camp and the preseason, then DA isn't the starter anymore.
If we sign DA to a new contract, I'll start putting more weight on this. Until then, I see it as posturing.
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From the Horse himself... Looks like D.A is here to stay according to Savage.
According to Phil they are trying to work out a deal....
And as for the "starter" comment.. since when does Phil pick the starters?
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But it's a nice thing to "say" to keep DA's stock high.
Yeah, but noticed that he never proclaimed DA the starter. He only said he "earned the right to have a chance" at it.
It was Mary Kay, up to her old tricks, who, (to get readers to read her story because of the title), interpreted it that way.
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These ARE quotes from Savage himself during his latest press conference. Should be up on the home site soon.
I KNOW. I said that I responded to the FIRST post, which had no quotes. Then I saw the second post with the article and quotes. So I edited my response. I still think Mary Kay is trying too hard to read between the lines and not really taking Savage at his word.
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DA did well enough for us this year, why shouldn't he be considered the starter going into the '08 season? If Quinn outplays him in camp and the preseason, then DA isn't the starter anymore.
If we sign DA to a new contract, I'll start putting more weight on this. Until then, I see it as posturing.
Okay, here's my question... If we sign DA to a new, long-term deal, will we really open the competition up in camp? I know that we SHOULD, but don't you think DA will be a little miffed that we signed him "to be our starter" and then we let him battle it out with Quinn? I think DAs agent will want a guarantee from Savage before he signs any deal with us. This will be interesting to say the least. Maybe Savage is posturing like some of you have said, knowing that they won't be able to get DA signed. In the mean time, this makes it look like we REALLY want him and tried our hardest to get something done, but just couldn't. Some other team comes along and signs him to an offer that we "just can't match" and the rest, as they say, is history. Oh crap, I just speculated a whole bunch didn't I? After ripping CalDawg the other day for it. Sorry buddy, you're right. It's impossible to resist. 
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I know that we SHOULD, but don't you think DA will be a little miffed that we signed him "to be our starter" and then we let him battle it out with Quinn? I think DAs agent will want a guarantee from Savage before he signs any deal with us.
Teams don't make those guarantees.. they may be implied but most of these situations are fluid... and I would expect DA to show up for camp prepared to battle for his job EVERY YEAR....
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It's not up to Savage or Crennel,it's up to Anderson's agent.And he's not going to do such a foolish thing as sign a contract now.Free Agency will set DA's value,not the Browns.
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You don't have to have a public competetion. If Quinn looks better than DA you simply give him more time with the first stringers. Nothing has to be said. You just make sure that the better guy is there at the start of the season.
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Just because we sign DA gives him no exclusive rights to the starting job IMO.If Quinn happens to beat him out and he is miffed than so be it he'll just have to get over it.
If I can get over the 4 picks in the Bungals game he can certainly get over not starting.Oh wait I cant get over the 4 picks !! Oh well
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I'm listening to his presser now and this sentence did stick out.. "We have a couple of different options for Derek," said Savage. "We're more apt to want to do something with Derek that would take him beyond the 2008 season. We want to go into next season with both of our quarterbacks, plus Ken Dorsey intact. We want to make sure we stay strong at that position for at least one more year."
At least one more year..... He doesn't think Derek will take a step backwards..wants to give him the first bite of the apple so to speak...interesting...the apple doomed Adam and Eve...  Someone asked him about what he would do if a team offered to trade for BQ.. "Sitting here today we want to go into next year with both QB's...I don't want to do anything to derail us from having a potientially good year ..quickest way to do that is have a injury without having someone to go to...Am I saying both QB's are off the market for 08?
Yeah I'm saying but certain things have to done before you can say that's a certainty.."
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No big surprise. What else is he going to say?
Anderson finished the season as our starter, and had quite the year. One could look at his stats and point to his completion percentage, TD/Int ratio, rating and so on, and see a middle of the pack QB. But look at what he accomplished. We were predicted to win 2-3 games this year (even the optimistic posters here were saying 6-7 wins) and we won 10. Like it or not, DA was a big part of it. The OL, Lewis and 1st round production from Edwards were also parts of it, but so was DA.
So what was Savage going to say?
Will we listen to offers, even if he's signed to a multi-year contract? Of course. QB is a position of strength (I had to pause typing that, what a feeling). If we can make the team better by dealing DA then we will. If no such offer comes by then we will not.
Having him signed to a multi-year deal means we won't have to dump him for an OK offer so that we don't lose him at the end of the year for no compensation. We can hold out for a good offer. If one doesn't come along then, geez, we have a QB who threw for 3700 yards and almost 30 TDs.
Having him signed also gives us control over who he ends up with. If we do deal him, it's to the team we want to deal him to. We don't have to worry about facing him twice a year because Baltimore slipped a poison pill into an offer.
And, I think having him signed makes him more tradeable. A team doesn't have to deal for him and then worry about negotiating a deal right off the bat. They already know what's he slated to make in the near term.
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I realize Savage might still feel the burn from the QB situation in camp and on opening day, but come on, this is overkill. Why does the starting QB need to be declared NOW???
All buisinessmen play chess games. To actually believe Quinn won't "get his shot" next year at the starting QB position is a fools dream. But it's a nice thing to "say" to keep DA's stock high.
Think about this...
WHY would Savage say he's your STARTER if he wanted to negotiate any contract beyond having Anderson sign a Tender Offer???
He just gave DA's agent the Upper Hand...Savage ain't stupid...He has NO INTENTIONS of signing him long term...
Either Anderson goes to a high bidder or we have him sign the One Year Tender Offer...
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No one else feels this is the "typical" response.
If you are hoping to get a trade for him, you don't say he will be the backup next season, and still expect to get maximum value for him.
And if they intend on keeping him, they have to say he is the starter. And leave it up to Quinn to overshadow him in the pre-season.
Either way, it's just words and has no real meaning til July.
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Yeah, but noticed that he never proclaimed DA the starter. He only said he "earned the right to have a chance" at it.
Well, if the Savage quote below is correct, then yeah, he did proclaim DA the starter.
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Sounds pretty much like he's the starter.. BUT
When I first read this after Jules posted it on another thread, my first thought was that it's too early to be saying this.. he must be setting the stage for something.,,
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Well IMO Romeo at 20-28 after 3 season does not warrant being extended at this point....10-6 with no Division Title or Wild Card berth....Do we value his services(Abilities As Head Coach That Much ?....)  ....Is the demand for Romeo that great ?....or our inability to find a Quality replacement that poor that must extend him now before he really has proven that he can produce ?....If anyone should be extended it should be Savage....Ok at 10-6 Anderson probably does deserve to head into 2008 as our Starter....However , that has to make Quinn , who we traded our 1st Rd. pick to acquire , rather salty and uncertain about his future in Cleveland....It appears that as long as Anderson plays decently Quinn will remain on the bench....As for Dorsey , I feel that a veteran QB who has had success in the NFL would serve as a better Mentor to both Anderson & Quinn ....
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Phil Savage is a smart man.
Of course he is going to say DA is the 08 starter. HE WANTS SOMEONE TO BITE!
If he came out and said Quinn is the opening day starter, do you really think any team would try to give us a reasonable offer for him? NO…he is playing the same game he always does in the off-season…soon enough he will be talking up some guy in the draft that he does not intend to pick. If you don’t realize this by now I have to ponder where you have been. Savage does this every year, he plays the game, he makes sure that he has his ducks in a row.
If he was planning to trade Quinn, he would be talking about how Quinn will be the opening day starter.
No doubt DA, if he is still here, deserves to be the opening day starter….but Savage is positioning himself for the trade…
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If you are talking about the opening day of camp... then we are in complete agreement. DA finished the season as the starter, therefore until camp begins, he is the starter... from day 1 of camp, he has to earn that position all over again.
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Well IMO Romeo at 20-28 after 3 season does not warrant being extended at this point....10-6 with no Division Title or Wild Card berth....Do we value his services(Abilities As Head Coach That Much ?....) ....Is the demand for Romeo that great ?....or our inability to find a Quality replacement that poor that must extend him now before he really has proven that he can produce ?....If anyone should be extended it should be Savage....Ok at 10-6 Anderson probably does deserve to head into 2008 as our Starter....However , that has to make Quinn , who we traded our 1st Rd. pick to acquire , rather salty and uncertain about his future in Cleveland....It appears that as long as Anderson plays decently Quinn will remain on the bench....As for Dorsey , I feel that a veteran QB who has had success in the NFL would serve as a better Mentor to both Anderson & Quinn ....
What is the problem with Romeo? The players love him and we just went 10-6. We didn't have the players to do well our first two years ... no good QB, no offensive line, etc. Why WOULDN'T we give Romeo an extension? So he gets unhappy and goes somewhere else?
What is wrong with Ken Dorsey? He has been in the league a while now so he knows the NFL. He really isn't going to see any playing time, and he is cheap to have on the roster. It sounds like he helps out with game plan and mentoring issues.
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If you are talking about the opening day of camp... then we are in complete agreement. DA finished the season as the starter, therefore until camp begins, he is the starter... from day 1 of camp, he has to earn that position all over again.
If DA is still here, IF…I feel it is his job to lose at this point.
I am not a DA fan, but it goes beyond that. It is an organization strategy to play the most experienced player talent being similar or equal.
I honestly don’t believe he will be here, but hey, I could be wrong.
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Contracts and money can be a problem even with the best of friends , just ask my ex .. Who knows what DA's agent will except ?  .. Going to be interesting to watch.
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According to Phil they are trying to work out a deal....
Of course they are trying to work out a deal...It Will Make It Easier To Trade Him! Teams that are not willing to give up a 1st & 3rd to us & then negotiate a new contract, will be more likely to talk if a contract is Already in Place and they Know Exactly what the deal will cost them to get done. JMHO Go Brownies!!!
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