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It is way too early for a draft thread.

However, the Browns still need a quarterback. IMO they will draft a quarterback in the upcoming draft.

So, for the sake of argument pick a guy you like and why.

I will start with a guy who is not now considered top three. There are still plenty of games to be played so all rankings can change.

John Mateer. I love this guy.

I place a high value on leadership. It is often talked about but hard to quantify. Great quarterbacks have to be great leaders. The position almost dictates that. The quarterback touches the ball on every offensive play. He has to be able to communicate and lead.

Forget Oklahoma. I don't care that is the team he plays on. However, watching Mateer play it is hard not to think of Baker. His playing personality is so similar.

Mateer is obviously in charge. He is the guy they all look to. He commands the huddle. Gets guys in place. You can see the team look to him for direction.

His arm talent is similar to Baker. He can reach any part of field easily. His release is super quick.

Where Mateer separates from Baker is his true running skills. He is a very good runner. He is powerful, fast, and elusive. His mobility helps him extend plays.

He broke his thumb on his throwing hand. Came back after surgery in two weeks. He has been playing hurt. His numbers reflect a drop off.

I am unconcerned. In fact it may cause him to slip in the draft which could be a good thing.

Before his thumb injury he was on fire.

His skills translate to the NFL today. Mobility is a must. He is 6'1" 225lbs. Thick powerful athlete.

IMO he has all the markings of a franchise quarterback.

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Fernando Mendoza, he is a Jr. at Indiana- may or may not come out- he might want to stay at Indiana and NOT get drafted by the Browns due to our QB history. I want a larger QB- he's 6 ft 5 and 225 lbs. Don't want short or small QB- high quality character. He's my favorite.


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Mendoza is having a great year.

Impressive tape. Accurate thrower. He might be the first QB selected.


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Originally Posted by bonefish
It is way too early for a draft thread.

However, the Browns still need a quarterback. IMO they will draft a quarterback in the upcoming draft.

So, for the sake of argument pick a guy you like and why.

I will start with a guy who is not now considered top three. There are still plenty of games to be played so all rankings can change.

John Mateer. I love this guy.

I place a high value on leadership. It is often talked about but hard to quantify. Great quarterbacks have to be great leaders. The position almost dictates that. The quarterback touches the ball on every offensive play. He has to be able to communicate and lead.

Forget Oklahoma. I don't care that is the team he plays on. However, watching Mateer play it is hard not to think of Baker. His playing personality is so similar.

Mateer is obviously in charge. He is the guy they all look to. He commands the huddle. Gets guys in place. You can see the team look to him for direction.

His arm talent is similar to Baker. He can reach any part of field easily. His release is super quick.

Where Mateer separates from Baker is his true running skills. He is a very good runner. He is powerful, fast, and elusive. His mobility helps him extend plays.

He broke his thumb on his throwing hand. Came back after surgery in two weeks. He has been playing hurt. His numbers reflect a drop off.

I am unconcerned. In fact it may cause him to slip in the draft which could be a good thing.

Before his thumb injury he was on fire.

His skills translate to the NFL today. Mobility is a must. He is 6'1" 225lbs. Thick powerful athlete.

IMO he has all the markings of a franchise quarterback.

He is an IT factor QB similar to Baker, like you said, but in my opinion is a little bit too short. I honestly don't want another short QB. He only has an average build so I would hardly call him a powerful athlete but he is OK size wise for a QB. I see him at about the same quality as Sanders and not really an upgrade to Sanders. He is a powerful leader type but then so is Sanders, if he ever gets a chance to show it ...


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Originally Posted by hitt
Fernando Mendoza, he is a Jr. at Indiana- may or may not come out- he might want to stay at Indiana and NOT get drafted by the Browns due to our QB history. I want a larger QB- he's 6 ft 5 and 225 lbs. Don't want short or small QB- high quality character. He's my favorite.

I like this guy quite a bit but I am not so sure he enters the draft this year. He honestly reminds me a lot of a young Joe Flacco who can run a little bit better. When he runs though ... I don't like how he runs head first because he could get hurt doing that at the NFL level. I really like his footwork though. He always keeps his feet in a base situation to through while he is scanning the field. He feels like the old school traditional pocket passer to me. I feel like he needs to add 10 to 20 plds of muscle though because he is a bit too skinny and will be subject to bones bruises more often in the NFL.

I would certainly love drafting this kid and he would be a HUGE upgrade for us.


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At 6'1" 225 . I don't see him as small. He is like Baker but stronger and faster.

I see nothing in his play that I would consider a drawback related to his size.

I am looking at what he can do. I see zero limitations in how he plays the position.

IMO Sanders is not a comparison. Sanders in college and now in the NFL holds the ball. He takes sacks. He retreats straight back from the pocket.

Sanders is accurate but late in seeing the field.

Mateer does not play like that at all. He moves forward. He extends plays and has the release to hit spots quickly.

He is a deadly runner who can get you the yards running on third and long.

Each to his own but I believe Mateer could be the guy.

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1) Mendoza

2) Moore

3) Simpson

Sellers has a high ceiling. I like him. I think another year in college would serve him well. Moore and Simpson will only have one year as a starter under their belts, but look the part.

I can also see a scenario where the Browns go something like: 1a) Fano, 1b) Tate.

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Taylen Green at 6'6" 225 lbs is my sneaky good QB. He has a very strong arm and is deceptively fast on his feet. He was clocked at 21 mph which when you consider Gibbs runs at 22 mph is really fast for a QB. What stands out to me when I watch him is how fluid and effortless things look for him. When he runs it looks beautiful and effortless. When he passes it is a smooth and effortless motion. Honestly, I feel like he will do much better at the NFL level than at the college level.

He does have his flaws though. He has the same HERO syndrome Sanders has where he puts to much pressure on himself to make the big play. He will sometimes make throws into coverage that is too tight because he is fearless when throwing the ball. I also feel he doesn't always see the whole field like Mendoza does. He is still young though and I feel like what he is lacking can be improved with good coaching and experience.

He is far above what the Browns currently have on roster and would be a game changing QB for the Browns and an ailing offensive line. He also has zero off field character concerns.

I don't know where he will go in the draft but I would easily give him a first round draft grade. We could probably take a stud WR and then be able to draft this guy afterwards.

He is probably NOT a QB Kevin would like though. To me though, that is probably a good thing atm ...


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Originally Posted by Milk Man
1) Mendoza

2) Moore

3) Simpson

Sellers has a high ceiling. I like him. I think another year in college would serve him well. Moore and Simpson will only have one year as a starter under their belts, but look the part.

I can also see a scenario where the Browns go something like: 1a) Fano, 1b) Tate.

Those 3 are my top 3 QB's.


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Long way to go and I have not really studied anyone.

There are a lot of games to be played. Players rise and fall.



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just watched some tape on Ty Simpson.

There is a lot to like. First off he plays under center often. He shows advanced footwork. Quick feet to get into the throwing position.

You can tell he has been well coached in throwing mechanics.

He delivers a high spin tight ball. Shows very good ball placement.

Good looking quarterback with high potential.

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Originally Posted by Milk Man
1) Mendoza

2) Moore

3) Simpson

Sellers has a high ceiling. I like him. I think another year in college would serve him well. Moore and Simpson will only have one year as a starter under their belts, but look the part.

I can also see a scenario where the Browns go something like: 1a) Fano, 1b) Tate.


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Todd McShay heard that Moore will return to Oregon?

You don't till it is verified.

Mendoza looks good.

Simpson also looks the part.

I don't see the Browns not drafting a quarterback. It would have to be unusual circumstances like the draft order working against them and someone else taking the guy they had zeroed in on.

Or, it would take something off the charts like Gabriel or Sanders going bonkers for the rest of this season. That is highly unlikely.

There is a long way to go before the draft lots can change.

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Originally Posted by hitt
Fernando Mendoza, he is a Jr. at Indiana- may or may not come out- he might want to stay at Indiana and NOT get drafted by the Browns due to our QB history. I want a larger QB- he's 6 ft 5 and 225 lbs. Don't want short or small QB- high quality character. He's my favorite.

I don't think he or any other player would not come out to not get drafted by some team.


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I agree Ball. I don't know where we'll be picking but chances are it will be in the top 3 the way things are going. If that's the case and the best QB prospects opt to stay in school then it might behoove us to draft the best OT on the board. We have another 1st pick to draft a QB later in the round. I would hate to see us reach and not get the QB we really wanted. There's a long way to go and many different scenarios to ponder.

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If there is no sure-fire QB prospect (which I'm leaning towards if the rankings are shifting as much as the tweet would indicate), then I REALLY hope we don't push all our chips in for a QB. We gotta rebuild the entire Oline as well as the WR room, and I'm not sure how much we can rely on FA due to our continued cap constraints.


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
If there is no sure-fire QB prospect (which I'm leaning towards if the rankings are shifting as much as the tweet would indicate), then I REALLY hope we don't push all our chips in for a QB. We gotta rebuild the entire Oline as well as the WR room, and I'm not sure how much we can rely on FA due to our continued cap constraints.

There is no such thing as a sure-fire QB prospect. Many busts prove that out. I believe there will be 3 taking in the top 5 to 10 next season. Mendoza, Simpson, and Moore.


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Saturday I saw some of the Alabama game and some of the Oregon game.

Between Moore and Simpson I liked Simpson better than Moore.

Simpson has clean mechanics and his accuracy and ball placement stand out.

Moore throws a nice ball as well. But overall I like Simpson.


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Originally Posted by oobernoober
If there is no sure-fire QB prospect (which I'm leaning towards if the rankings are shifting as much as the tweet would indicate), then I REALLY hope we don't push all our chips in for a QB. We gotta rebuild the entire Oline as well as the WR room, and I'm not sure how much we can rely on FA due to our continued cap constraints.

There is no such thing as a sure-fire QB prospect. Many busts prove that out. I believe there will be 3 taking in the top 5 to 10 next season. Mendoza, Simpson, and Moore.

Here are the draft profiles of the 3 you mentioned. None of these profiles scream "consensus top QB". I actually read that in Moore's profile as being the reason he's considered as a top pick. Even the one mentioned as a potential top pick (Mendoza) mentions that his draft slot is going to be influenced by his play this year as he has limited time vs top-tier competition.

Passing on a starter-caliber OT or #1WR for a project QB (especially after the season we're having now) would be one of the Brownsiest moves we've done... and that's saying something.



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The draft profile for Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza in the 2026 NFL Draft highlights a player with an ideal frame (\(6^{\prime }5",225lbs\)), strong arm, and high accuracy, especially on short-to-intermediate passes. His strengths include excellent pocket presence, intelligence, and the ability to make plays off-script, while a key area for improvement is his tendency to take unnecessary sacks by not scrambling soon enough. Mendoza is considered a top prospect, with some projections listing him as a potential first-round pick. Strengths Arm Strength and Accuracy: Mendoza possesses a strong arm and is an accurate passer, particularly on short and intermediate routes.Pocket Presence and Poise: He shows great poise and patience in the pocket, capable of standing tall under pressure to deliver strikes.Intelligence and Processing: He has a high football IQ, excels at reading defenses pre-snap, and makes good decisions, including adjusting to the blitz.Athleticism: While not a designed runner, he has good athleticism for the position, allowing him to extend plays and throw accurately on the move.Leadership: He has demonstrated strong leadership qualities, as seen in his performance in critical situations like third and fourth downs. Areas for improvement Sacks: He can be reluctant to scramble, leading to unnecessary sacks and hits, an area that needs to be addressed.Deep Ball: His deep ball accuracy has been inconsistent against high-level competition.Physical Durability: As with many quarterbacks, he could benefit from adding more bulk to help withstand hits. Draft outlook High Potential: He is considered one of the top quarterback prospects for the 2026 draft, with some projecting him as a potential first-round pick.Wild Card: His draft stock is influenced by his performance against tougher competition in the Big Ten, which is expected to be a significant factor.Consensus: He is seen as a legitimate contender for the No. 1 overall pick in some projections due to his combination of size, arm talent, and accuracy.

Simpson
Ty Simpson's draft profile for the 2026 NFL Draft highlights his strong arm, agility, poise under pressure, and elite accuracy, which have propelled him into the first-round conversation. While his limited starting experience is a concern, his ability to create plays outside of structure, read the field effectively, and perform in clutch situations are his biggest strengths. He is praised for his pocket feel, quick processing, and rhythm, making him a polished and promising quarterback prospect.
Strengths
Arm and accuracy: Possesses a strong, elastic arm and is considered one of the most accurate throwers in his draft class, with crisp mechanics and good velocity and touch.
Pocket presence and agility: A jittery, agile athlete who is good at extending plays by moving both within the pocket and to escape pressure.
Clutch performance: Excels in high-pressure situations, demonstrated by a high EPA per play in final two-minute drills.
Processing and instincts: Shows strong processing ability and has good instincts for finding open windows and making the right reads.
Poise and control: Is a composed passer who avoids forcing throws and protects the football, while also showing good rhythm and timing.
Weaknesses
Experience: As a first-year starter, he has a small sample size of games, and his lack of experience could be a concern for some scouts.
Deep ball and pressure: Has some issues with deep ball placement and occasional ill-advised throws.
Tendency to extend plays: Sometimes drifts out of clean pockets or extends broken plays too long, though this also showcases his athleticism.
Physical tools: At 6'2" and around 210 pounds, he is smaller than some other early-round quarterbacks.

Dante Moore is a highly-regarded college quarterback at the Oregon Ducks, considered a top prospect for the 2026 NFL Draft. His strengths include excellent decision-making, ability to read defenses, and accurate passing, which have been evident since his high school days as a top recruit. After transferring from UCLA, he has had an impressive season at Oregon, and while his draft eligibility is pending, some analysts project him as a future NFL quarterback.
Player profile
Current Team: Oregon Ducks
Position: Quarterback
College: Oregon (transfer from UCLA)
Draft Eligibility: 2026 NFL Draft
High School: Ranked as the No. 3 quarterback and No. 4 overall player by 247Sports Composite, in the 2023 class
Strengths
Decision-making: Demonstrates the ability to make good decisions on the field.
Defensive reads: Shows a strong understanding of reading defenses.
Arm talent: Is an accurate passer with a strong arm.
Experience: Has starting experience at both UCLA and Oregon.
Potential 2026 NFL Draft outlook
Rising prospect: Has emerged as a potential early-round selection in a draft class that lacks a consensus top quarterback.
Performance: His performance at Oregon has solidified his status as one of the best quarterbacks in the country.
Scouting report: His impressive play and high recruiting profile have him on the radar of NFL scouts.


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The draft is still a ways out there.

Others can come into play.

I like John Mateer. He has things to work on and clean up. At the same time he can do things others cannot.

Nico Iamleava is another guy with raw skills but great upside.

Sellers is a big strong guy who many thought would be the top pick.

Looking at college quarterbacks and forecasting them into the NFL is extremely hard to do. The NFL overall has been very poor at evaluation.

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