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Our OL seemed to play better than they have been.

10 sacks is a lot in the NFL no matter who you’re playing. But yeah, LV’s OL is worse than ours.

SS looked better today, had some time to throw. Had the bad INT, he’s the guy for the rest of the season. If he can keep showing improvement, baby steps, we might not have to draft a QB high, or at the very least won’t have to spend heavy draft capital by trading up.

We beat a bad team but it’s better than losing to one.

Our kicker is looking more solid every week; he might be one less thing to worry about next year.

Sampson has been under-utilized all season. I didn’t see Jerome Ford at all today.

- It's nice to win.

- Are the Raiders the worst team in football? I think the Titans would beat them at this stage of the season.

- It seems inexcusable to give up 10 sacks. The NFL is bereft of OL talent.

- Myles Garrett should break the NFL sack record. He's been on an absolute tear.

- Throws beyond 5 yards was something to behold. It's clear Shedeur has much more arm talent than the super-computer.

- Great punt return by Gage Larvadain.

- Mason Graham and Harris wreaking havoc in the middle.

- Jerry Jeudy can go away.

- Shedeur only sacked once. I did not see that coming.

- Sampson has speed.

- Judkins couldn't get it going.

- 0 targets for Njoku today. Only 4 in the last 3 games.

- Nice game for McGuire in Alex Wright's absence.

Time to tell Gabriel to hang out a little longer in the protocol and give Shedeur another start.

Cheers: A win in the Pacific time zone.

Double Cheers: Watson's sunglasses on the sidelines.

Couldn't see the game because ..... I have no idea why. Stupid carriage rules, I guess.

Sanders appeared to play fairly well. Bad opponent, but he still won his start. The defense was beastly! 10 sacks??? Crazy.

Remember when people wanted Szmyt cut, dismembered, and impaled? He's turning into a pretty reliable kid.

I saw that play by Jeudy, and I have no idea why he was prancing, and didn't secure the ball. He turned a great play into a great &%#(#up.

I think he had a very solid game

I don’t know what Juedy was trying to do. Look for a block is my best guess?

I’m getting tired of him. He’s not baling out he can’t even catch the ball half the time.

Jeudy looked someone who had torn a calf or hamstring muscle the way he jumped up suddenly, at least that's what it was like for me (tore my calf muscle in the middle of a 15-mile run), but you're right, it's obvious he wasn't hurt, so, like you, I have no idea what that was. And I finished the run anyway.

Judkins
Sampson
Fannin
Bond
Graham
Schwesinger

This has to be one of the best rookie classes of any team.

and 10 sacks!
Lets give the D backs some credit for these sacks. Ward is having a great year too. I understand who we played, but still...

You realize that all of this year's draft picks, plus a few undrafted players, have started this year.

The problem is that the Browns wiffed big time with the OL and WR in the off season. Juedy is a bit like Pickens, put him in a competitive situation and he is a different player.

Other teams know what the job is to beat the Browns. Stop Garrett. Yet they can't. He just tears through other teams.

Hard to get yards when you are consistently hit 2-3 yards behind the LOS. I couldn't watch the game, but that's how it sounded on radio. I know everyone thinks QB should be our draft priority, but if we don't get real talent at OL & WR we won't improve.

Sanders played better but he still didn't play all that great. Considering who we played against I was hoping for more out of him. I did like how he looks to be working on his very bad habit of running backwards and getting sacked. It was very obvious Sanders made a HUGE effort to get rid of the ball instead of taking sacks so I really enjoyed seeing him improve that part of his game. He still had lots of bad reads and some pretty bad throws but against a very bad team he looked better than Dillon would have I think. I say let Sanders start until they let Watson take over.

Our defense had a real field day! I felt bad for Geno but only a little bit. Mason played like a monster this game. I was really impressed by Mason. Delphit had a pretty nice game too. Myles was miles ahead of everyone yet again. I love to watch Myles =)

I am loving Fannin more and more. I love the way he moves like he is on a mission after he catches the ball. They were really ganging up on him to slow him down but failing miserably. Imagine if there is actually WRs playing who draw coverage away.

It was a nice win and it made me happy. I just hope the Sanders fans don't ruin it with their nonsense about how great he looked when he didn't look atl that great. IF Sanders can keep improving his game though it would be really nice because I do want him to do great things for Cleveland.

I know why he was prancing. (A little to much air between his ears)

Jeudy was trying to make a hesitation move. The idea is to make defenders pause a moment when he makes that hop, then burst hard when he hits the ground.

The unfortunate part was he didn't know a defender was right behind him to punch the ball.

As for SS, he had a pretty good game. Keep playing him. He showed improvement from the limited times I saw him play. We owe it to the team and SS to give him more shots in a starting role. Starting is his only path. He won't make a good back-up. Gabriel might or might not be a good starter but he will be a premium back-up. I think his mind set is more team based and not as self-centered as is the case with SS.

I am not saying any of that as a dig at either, just my observation on their personality types.

A few other observations....

Sampson is in, Ford is out.

The same with Fannin and Njoku. I think we probably tried to trade Njoku before the deadline. Either we didn't find any takers or the offers were so low we just kept him out of respect to help him out as he heads in to free agency.

I really liked the White helmet with the white jerseys and orange pants

A bit of a pleasant surprise - a win is a win is a win.

LV are really bad. Their OL is worse than ours which just about says everything.

SS was better than expected but also faced much less pressure than expeceted. The long throw on the run was impressive. He didn't run backwards as much.

Defense played exceptional but again LV are bad. Although Jeantry is legit and should be a top 5 RB in the NFL.

Interesting that the commentators repeated ad-nauseam how little pressure LV brought even though the Ravens destroyed us with pressure the week before ... There's a part of me wonders if LV were playing to not win. We've seen posters here say KS was doing a good job by tanking the season and that was the plan.... so ?

Will say this years draft haul is the best I can remember. If we get anything extra - it's a bonus - but Fannin, Judkins, Sampson and Graham are all bonefide starters, could become 'stars'. Schwesinger is already a star. He's legit phenominal. |Remember his ankle sprain games back? Thought he was done ... and he is so good.

- The defense played great, albeit against one of the worst offensive lines I've seen in quite a long time.
- Shedeur played better than Gabriel but I don't think it was all that great. Hopefully the Browns give him the start again and he continues to grow. However, his stats don't match performance, IMO. He didn't get sacked much and only back peddled a few times....that's progress.
- Once again, the rookies show up and the broadcast team seemed to highlight that group quite a bit.
- Funny they showed the trio of JW, Haslem, and Berry and Haslem seemed like he couldn't be less interested. I'm sure that's not the case, but they optics sure looked like it.
- I don't know how people compare TJ Watt and Myles Garrett together. There is not comparison....Myles is exponentially better.
- Jeanty running over Hickman was a little embarrassing.
- Lots of praise going to Watson for helping the QB room all season.
- Good seeing Sampson get some more reps. Man, he is explosive.

One more point, but this is more about the season overall than just yesterday, but Grant Delpit is putting together a Pro Bowl-like season this year. His play has been amazing and one of the strongest defensive players we have.

Geez, 10 Sacks.. Wholesale changes need made with the LV Oline. Our D is pretty damn solid front to back and all points in between.....

Couple of Shedaurs passes were great.. The one to Bond was a thing of beauty. Same with the pass to Sampson. Those were fun to watch... About the best all year so far. The pick sucked.

What I'm still not seeing is a QB that will take over a game.. Maybe as he gains experience and confidence Sanders can be that guy.. Not sure how KS can keep Sanders out when Gabriel returns.

I saw a split screen shot of Garret when Sanders passed to Bond and he was like "Oh My".....

All in all, a win is a win. Makes me happy.

I'm glad we won. I know it hurts our draft position but losing stinks and look how our players responded to winning. Good for them, the organization and we the fans! I would play Shedeur the rest of the season. Look how the guys reacted to him. He brings something to the game. 6 games left to see what we have and try to win them all. We'll worry about the draft position when the season is over. Heck, we don't even know definitively what QB's will be coming out. Do our best the rest of the way let the chips fall where they may and formulate a new draft strategy if we have to. If Shedeur can turn into what Baker is now and we surround him with enough talent he may be good enough. JMO

What matrix are they using if the Browns success rate was worse than the Raiders? LOL.

All of our runningbacks are hit or redirected behind the LoS damn near every carry. Judkins has been a treat.

I think that was about as good as you can expect out of a rookie 5th rounder in his first start. I wasn't a fan of his completion percentage and some of his decisions/plays, but 1 sack, the win, hitting a couple longer throws and a (very) successful screen pass...? I'll take that operating within this offense.... and if that's the foundation that he's gonna build off and improve from? I'll DEFINITELY take that.

Completely agree. That's why I want the draft & even some FA focused on OL, then WR.

Same here.

As for SS it wasn't a really "good game" but within the game he made some good plays. He didn't really go backwards in the pocket but then again he wasn't blitzed or under heavy pressure much which is when he tends to do so. I think the jury is still out on that one. Overall I believe people need to take it for what it is. He's a fifth round rookie draft pick making his first start. Considering that I would have to say he did well. Context matters. This management group made it obvious they wanted to get a good look at both if the rookie QB's. It's certainly time SS gets his shot as the starter.

As I felt when they were drafted Judkins is the thunder and Sampson is the lightening. I'm just not quite sure why we haven't seen more lightening so far this season. Yesterday made it obvious the lightening is there to be used. Overall this O moved the ball better and scored more points. That's the objective even if it isn't always a thing of beauty. They can work on style points later.

The D played up to their potential. Which is pretty damn good! And I don't care who your opponent is, 10 sacks is crazy! Great coverage in the secondary combined with immense pressure up front is what we witnessed.

A win feels good.

I gave up rooting for better draft position (thru losing) back somewhere in the 2008-2012 sort of era. The losing culture is more damaging than the potential benefit of a higher draft pick. A Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck witht he #1 pick not withstanding ... it just is not worth it. jmo

Hope always springs eternal. I mean what else do we have left? Sadly the results don't live up to the hope.

Much like yourself I'm feeling quite happy about this past draft. People say "Yeah but they didn't address OT or WR." But there's no way they were going to fix this team in one draft. If this past draft is any indication of the improvements and growth of this FO we have a reason to be positive and "hope" for the best moving forward.

We may end up with DPOY and DROY!

Placing your future on the results of a QB playing his next 6 games would be a huge gamble. It would bring into question for me all of the growth this FO seems to have made in this past years draft.