DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Gameday vs San Francisco Post Game Thoughts

- Game seemed closer than the point score showed.
- Special teams and starting field position was terrible. Bubba Ventrone is probably gone after this season. Larva might lose return duties, if not his job. The post game show of Zegura and Siciliano were doing everything but calling out Bubba Ventrone directly as a staffing change.
- Sanders looked below average against an injury-riddled defense. I know we ran a ton but, on passing downs, he looks like he needs so much more seasoning. I saw some back peddling and holding the ball as per usual.
- Our defense was great until it came to third downs.
- I know people are going to question the decision to go for it in on our own 30 yard line. But seriously, did it really matter considering our record and state of team? So what if it doesn't work?.....we're 3-8. If we get it....bonus. I didn't even care that it was a 2-point differential at that point.
- Defensive line looked good again.
- Fannin looked good again.
- Judkins looked good again. It was nice to see his durability with so many carries.

I was disappointed we didn't throw more. Look, I get it, there were 25-30 MPH winds during the game. However, this season is over with and we're trying to get a temperature check on Sanders. We like what we've seen from Judkins and Sampson, so who cares if it is windy? We're 3-8 and need to know if Sanders can be the guy (probably not). So throw the ball more! At least that was my hope going into this game. I wasn't concerned about the win, I was more concerned about the performance from Sanders and would have liked to see more pass volume for him.

Game highlight:
Going to a commercial break to "Notorious Thugs".

As usual, our D kept us in the game but was punished by terrible ST and an offence that isn’t doing enough. SS didn’t play great but he didn’t poop the bed, either.


Corley with a brain cramp on the kickoff, catching the ball at the 5 so close to the sideline; their big punt return; the muffed punt.

KS should have punted at our own 30. It was the third quarter snd we were still in the game (the play call itself was also atrocious.)

We were still in running the ball well, I think the only pass on our TD drive was the touchdown throw to Fannin.

The 49ers are more injured than the Browns . Playing backups on defense and starting WR core is banged up. Yet they are 9 and 4. . And playing in more tougher division.
This team is a reflection Stefanski demeanor. Soft and lacking toughness
The offense looked so vanilla . Nothing kept the 49ers off balance
Another special team meltdown as usual
Honestly what makes this team look any different than the other losing campaigns of 22 years ?

- The quest for back-to-back wins continues.

- Making an example out of Teller as the one to hold accountable for subpar play is quite the choice given the plethora of options, i.e, Jeudy.

- Special Teams continues to be dreadful.

- Nice game from Judkins. Good to see more runs to the outside.

- Pretty lame that the stadium booed Gabriel coming onto the field when Shedeur went down for one play. This divisiveness was predictable when Shedeur was drafted.

- Garrett notches another sack to inch closer to the record.

- Larvadain with the three fumbles in a single game. Remarkable!

- Cedric Tillman continues to be a non-factor.

- Njoku 2 catches for 4 yards.

- 49ers were 11 of 17 on 3rd downs. The Browns were 3 of 11. Browns were 0-4 on 4th downs.

- Schwesinger is so impressive.

Cheers: Garrett can add Purdy tombstone to his Halloween decor.

Double Cheers: Shelby Harris.

Another losing effort and losing game plan by a loser of a coach.

If Stefanski gave the same focus on winning as he does on process maybe we could float around .500 each season.

But he's an unserious coach in an unserious, clown show of an organization.

Even if Shedeur had the potential to be a franchise QB, he couldn't, and no one could, succeed in this organization.

Caught some of it today as we were out and I was able to finagle my way into a sports bar for about 45 mins, which unfortunately included halftime.

I want to be wrong about sanders but I don’t think I am. He’s only really capable of taking as much as is given to him. He’s simply not more than a decent backup talent with a cut temperament. Body language all wrong. Which would be ok if he had exceptional skills. In his favor, he’s proven that the long ball is there. He’s been better than anyone this year with that. But he’s just not consistent.

Everything else… who cares. Same story every week. Most of the other rooks look good so there’s that. D looks solid. Special teams is just hilariously inept.

Battle of the titans next week. Should be riveting

A fairly scathing game report from Zac Jackson (who I don't particularly rate since we was on board early with the "the only thing holding the team back is Baker" bandwagon) ... certainly laying a lot of blame witht he organization/front office. Highlighting the unprofessional way the team is coached.

Opening paragraph:

CLEVELAND — After what might have been the sloppiest game in a season full of them, Browns coach Kevin Stefanski told reporters that rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders will get another start next week when Cleveland (3-9) hosts the Tennessee Titans (1-11).

Last paragraph:

Because the Browns can’t get lined up properly, can’t rush for 1 yard when they really need it and can’t find returners who know the rules and actually secure the ball, it’s probably past time for change. Even if Sanders makes giant strides and Fannin continues to ascend, this offense — and the overall operation — is a hundred miles from competence.

And I agree - there is nothing about this team that indicated a well coached, disciplined team that is bereft of talent (due to one awful trade for Watson) .... what we see week in and week out is a team that is undisciplined, badly coached, lacks accountablility, soft and simply cannot/does not get the job done. . . . Yes I know Haslam has seemingly indicated Berry and KS are returning. I just don't believe it. The product cannot be this level of bad and the people at the top (the football people at the top - not the owner, before some wiseguy cracks in) keep their jobs. As a friend said during the 2nd half ... it's like a dark comedy. Utterly ridiculous. Never has the 'Cleveland Clowns' been more appropriate.

Judkins continues to find ways to get extra yards, finds ways to impress me a little more each time I see him. Fannin the same. Schwesinger too. . . . One swallow does not a summer make - one good draft does not a GM make. Fire them all - today. Have Schwartz as the interim and have him interview for the full time position in the offseason.

Fear of not getting the next front office regime right (and there is zero gaurantee that it will be right) is no reason to keep the incompetents we have in place right now. * edit: and fear of being exposed as a meddling owner over the Watson trade is also not a reason not to move on (if that's a factor)

We are the same poorly coached team in week 12 that we were in week 1 . Almost impossible to judge a QB at this point . Offense is hard to figure out how they can be this bad . I also want to see Jim Scwhartz coach this team the rest of the year .

The game went about as I expected it to. I like how the first half had me hoping I would be surprised but the second half ruined that hope.

I though Sanders did OK. If he doesn't speed up his game though he is not going to have an NFL career. He throws well and throws a pretty pass but it's useless if he takes too long to throw the ball. Jeaudy gave him an earful about it too. I though Jeaudy was a little rude but man it felt great to see he is still clocked in and CARES because I thought he had given up for the season.

I do wish they would stop being so boring with the offensive play calling but I understand they are trying to keep it simple to make it easier on Sanders. I think they were expecting much worse weather when they made the game plan and that is also one of the reasons it was such a boring game plan because they wanted to use plays they felt would work in bad weather.

Special teams woes continue...

D is dominant

O is Inept

How much time do these clowns spend in practice with the trickery BS of snapping the ball to the TE? I know Fannin is a beast with the ball in his hands but he's not a RB.

The 4th down arrogance is maddening. Our offense is not good and our OL is worse...why in the hell does KS continue to think we can get that additional yardage. Take the three points...punt the ball away so as to not further stress the defense. These are easy decisions that continue to be botched and have zero awareness for what we are.

Those two 4ths and 1 plays they should have just got into the wildcat and let Judkins work. That play has been successful on the goal line and would have posed a higher success rate than what happened yesterday. Those two plays and then 4 special teams blunders were the game yesterday. This team and especially yesterday needs to play Tressel ball and have all drives end in a kick. Sanders had a Gabriel meh performance. he was not the reason the team lost but he was not a difference maker either. Maybe that was the wind, maybe it was Stefanski's offense, maybe it was the loss of Conklin in the 2nd half, but you cannot win in the NFL dinking and dunking the ball down the field. I was excited after the touchdown drive which came after a decent early drive stalled due to the 4th and 1 in the red zone. Maybe the Niners made adjustments that shut down what the Browns did well in the first half, but the offense did not look as good in the 2nd half yesterday and that was disappointing.

Most other games I'd agree with you, but this past game we were getting push (especially in the first half). Judkins averaged almost 4 yards/carry.