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I didn't say or advocate for trading up to draft the first QB in this draft. As a matter of fact I would love nothing more than be able to see the Browns stand pat and have a QB they have targeted fall to them. I think what we have here is a miscommunication and that may be my fault.

Let's use Mahommes as an example from your list. First let's look at my actual quote.....

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I've never been a fan of "take whoever is left" in terms of QB's.

Now let me ask you, do you think KC saw Mahommes as "whoever is left" or do you believe he was a target of theirs all along?

You see there are many variables none of us know. As of now, even though we can take it all with grain of salt, there are three QB's considered in the top tier of QB prospects this year. I have no idea how the Browns view those three QB's. They may see all three of them being fairly equal and being potential franchise QB's. In that case they may be able to sit right where they are at and get a QB. They may only see two of them having that potential which may mean a slight trade up or still stand pat in the draft.

But I think that KC was not being foolish by drafting Mahommes at #10 because they saw him as a "who ever is left".

And I don't want the Browns to put in "who ever is left" position either. I would venture to guess that almost all, if not all of the QB's on your list were targets of the team who drafted them. That in each of those situations they saw those QB's as having a high potential of being their franchise QB. I don't think they saw them as "who ever if left"

And that's the exact same situation I want to see the Browns take advantage of in this upcoming draft. Whoever they draft at QB I want it to be a QB they see as a top QB.

That may not be the first QB taken. Hell, it may not even be the second QB taken. It just has to be "their guy". What it can't be is "who ever is left".

I hope that helps to clear things up.


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They have no reason to let him go, as they pay his salary anyway. Maybe he asks for a release and negotiates a reduction is what he's owed to bring it about.


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I’ve speculated about this happening more than once. It makes perfect sense for more than one reason.

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Well Fernandez most likely just cemented himself as the first QB taken in this next draft. That boy has some real ZING on his passes. Julian just showed he is lacking in the arm talent for end of game hail marys.

I am fine if the Browns don't draft a QB high in the draft. I am not really that sold on Sanders yet due to his slow decision making but he throws a nice ball and perhaps he can improve himself in this offseason now that he knows what he needs to focus on improving.

I'd be fine with drafting Talen Green in the 4th round if he lasts that long. Sadly he is a decent QB on a not so decent team so he will most likely slide in the draft so I would not take him before the 4th. IF we end up with the same 3QB for 2026 I am also fine with that. Let Sanders start and Watson back him up. Provided we draft Nyck at WR somewhere in this draft and build up our offensive line I will be happy.


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Well Fernandez most likely just cemented himself as the first QB taken in this next draft. That boy has some real ZING on his passes. Julian just showed he is lacking in the arm talent for end of game hail marys.

I am fine if the Browns don't draft a QB high in the draft. I am not really that sold on Sanders yet due to his slow decision making but he throws a nice ball and perhaps he can improve himself in this offseason now that he knows what he needs to focus on improving.

I'd be fine with drafting Talen Green in the 4th round if he lasts that long. Sadly he is a decent QB on a not so decent team so he will most likely slide in the draft so I would not take him before the 4th. IF we end up with the same 3QB for 2026 I am also fine with that. Let Sanders start and Watson back him up. Provided we draft Nyck at WR somewhere in this draft and build up our offensive line I will be happy.


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Sellers should return to school. He needs a lot of development.

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Cleveland fans, press and I suspect ownership and maybe elements of the team (Garrett?) are not going to accept keeping a rd 1 QB sitting on the bench for a whole season. Especially if they're losing.

Sellers, development, or better players around him?

If they keep Sanders, none of the Sanders fans will play nice if the Browns hand the job over. It gives the new QB a chance to develop. Competition hurts no one!

I agree on competition, but QB is a bit different. Especially with the one we have. You don't want to breed a split fanbase, locker-room, and media.

If we draft a 1st round QB, we need to trade or cut Sanders. Now Zac Jackson has been threatened with defamation by some other reporter, claims of being racist, all sorts of things. I don't know what's true or untrue. The point is to highlight the circus surrounding the guy.

We brought the circus to town when we drafted Sanders. If we decide that Sanders is our guy, fine. Draft some other 4th or 5th round QB if you want to increase the competition in the room. Go with that decision and live with that decision. Use those 1st rounders to bring in players who will support your QB decision.

If we spend a 1st or a couple of 1sts on a QB, Sanders needs to go.


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Originally Posted by YTownBrownsFan
They have no reason to let him go, as they pay his salary anyway. Maybe he asks for a release and negotiates a reduction is what he's owed to bring it about.

FYI...DW could quit, retire or disappear and the dead cap hit would be the same because future year's dead cap would accelerate into the moment he was gone. (They've already paid him more cash than just annual salary.) They can - and did - spread out the restructure cash payments to hit the cap 'down the road'. He is 100% going to be on the 53 next season.

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If there’s a QB we like when we pick we have to take him. We can’t mess around with this. I just hope that we don’t have to use our other number 1 to move up. Obviously where we end up will be very important.

I don't want us to reach for another qb. We grabbed 2 of the top qb's available this year. I don't know if either will work out or not. There are quite a few free agent qb's next year.
I don't know what is up with JOK but the defense looks good. We need offensive line and wide receivers

I hate to be the bearer of bad news on the projected 2026 free agent QBs...there are two on the list who we could bring back.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/available/_/year/2026/position/qb/type/ufa

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Use those 1st rounders to bring in players who will support your QB decision.

peen...I agree, build the WR and OLine with our top picks..upgrading the Browns WR and OLine help whomever is our QB for 2026.


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And it would insure we pick later in the draft so we would have to give up more for a QB.


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Use those 1st rounders to bring in players who will support your QB decision.

peen...I agree, build the WR and OLine with our top picks..upgrading the Browns WR and OLine help whomever is our QB for 2026.

If we draft a QB, which I think we will, we won't have those picks to use, but we have others


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