Francis Mauigoa Left Tackle Miami, Trevor Goosby Left Tackle Texas, Caleb Lomu Left Tackle Utah, Spencer Fano Right Tackle Utah, Kadyn Proctor Left Tackle Alabama, Olaivavega Ioane Left Guard Penn State, Isaiah World Left Tackle Oregon, Iapani Laloulu Left Guard Oregon, Caleb Tiernan Left Tackle Northwestern. This is actually a very good year to draft offensive lineman Tackles are a deep class and good guards and centers will be taken in rounds 2 and 3.
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Francis Mauigoa Left Tackle Miami, Trevor Goosby Left Tackle Texas, Caleb Lomu Left Tackle Utah, Spencer Fano Right Tackle Utah, Kadyn Proctor Left Tackle Alabama, Olaivavega Ioane Left Guard Penn State, Isaiah World Left Tackle Oregon, Iapani Laloulu Left Guard Oregon, Caleb Tiernan Left Tackle Northwestern. This is actually a very good year to draft offensive lineman Tackles are a deep class and good guards and centers will be taken in rounds 2 and 3.
This is the news we all needed to hear after yesterday.
"I'll take your word at face value. I have never met you but I assume you have a face..lol"
Fano has played both Lt and RT and is the top rated LT in the class. There are a lot of projections that have Mauigoa best suited to move to guard in the NFL. He’s got the talent that he’ll have the opportunity to try an play on the outside. Same thing with Kadyn Proctor.
Bill Callahan is 69 years old and I'm not sure if coaching football is in his future plans.
That said, Callahan and Joe Thomas as OLine advisors to rebuild the Browns OLine via the draft, we would be hard pressed to find anyone more qualified than those two.
Berry's history of drafting OLine is matter of record...and not very good.
Even if Callahan isn't hired as a full time coach, give him $1M as advisor, the OL coach's coach. Make it interesting for him, hire his son as well. The before and after with him was so dramatic. I mean, we're a wholly different team after he left. I'm not putting it all on him but gosh, the OL just completely fell apart the minute he walked out of the room.
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Whatever happens, I think we need to come away from this draft with our starter LT... and generally that caliber of player at that position is picked right around our first pick.
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Fano was their LT but moved to RT to make room for Lomu to be the LT Why is Fano considered the higher rated prospect?
Because he is the better player at this time. Fano is a JR and a 3 year starter who has played 2,204 snaps in his career and according to PFF he was the #1 OT in all of college football in 2024 and put up good grades again this year to be ranked the #14 OT. Lomu is a RSO and a 2 year starter who has played 1,620 snaps so far in his college career and has put up good grades but not nearly as dominating as Fano.
From PFF:
16. T Spencer Fano, Utah Utes
Fano is a bit light on the scale for an NFL offensive lineman, but you won't find many other drawbacks in his scouting report. He plays with great pad level and flexibility, providing excellent leg drive and impactful run-blocking in any blocking scheme. His arm length appears adequate to play tackle with vice-grip hand strength and a patient pass-blocking style. He's a scheme-versatile, starting-caliber offensive lineman with All-Pro potential.
43. T Caleb Lomu, Utah Utes
Lomu is green in experience but shows a very promising future in college and the NFL. He has the requisite size, though he is on the lighter side with average arm length. He is a flexible player, enabling him to get low in his stance with good power and low pad level. He has a strong leg drive and a finisher's mentality in the run game. His kick slides cover good ground, and he showcases excellent balance and anticipation of where pressure is coming from. Lomu's punch timing and aim need to be more consistent, but that is a trait he can learn. He shows the potential to be a starting offensive tackle with impact success as a zone blocker.
I would love it if we could trade back a few picks with our 1st pick and get Fano, then get a combo of Lomu and WR Denzel Boston with our next two picks.
That would be a prudent strategy. We should follow the same path as last year. Trade back if possible and pick up another1st for the 2027 draft. If we don't pick a QB this year and roll with Shedeur, you have the picks to move up next year to take a QB if he doesn't work out. Of course, it will probably take the 2 #1's we'll have plus a first in 2028 to do it but with a good draft this coming year we should have a solid O-Line and the deep threat WR in place. Am I being too optimistic?
It's the age-old debate of "in order to trade you have to have a willing partner".
Who is going to be there to get a team clamoring for a trade-up to ~6-7? ... ideally a team that isn't only picking a couple spots after us (top left tackles are generally picked pretty early).
Raiders - are taking a QB Giants - are not Jets - probably taking a QB Titans - are not Cardinals - ??? Browns - hopefully not Washington - are not Saints - are not Chiefs - are not Bengals - are not
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Possibly a team that might need a defensive player that they covet. There are some good D players coming out and the stock in some of the other players may go up after combines and pro days. Long way to go before the end of April.
Pit I've had my negative moments on this board like everyone else. However, I've been giving our options and scenarios a lot of thought and came up with the opinions you see. I'm trying something different. Some positive and optimistic thinking LOL
I see nothing at all wrong with that. When they signed watson it certainly decreased my passion. That in turn caused me to be somewhat more pragmatic in my thought process as it pertains to the Browns. Even at that I don't see the future as all doom and gloom.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Agreed. None of us on here know if we are or will be right. I mean there are certain facts we can use to base our opinions on. But unless you consider all of the factors that contributed to those facts you can still manipulate those facts to present the picture you want to paint. It's the factors and how those factors are perceived and accounted for when forming our opinions that I think lead to the bulk of the conflict on here.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Tristan Wirfs, Wonderlic score- 23, played for Iowa= FIVE Pro Bowls, J Wills, Wonderlic score- 9.....then studied 23, Ala started= Pro Bowls, are you kidding me......Jimmy Johnson, can't fix stupid--- besides physical skill I hope they determine how good guy is knowing plays, etc., etc., Wills always seemed SLOW in interviews.
Maybe we have NEW scouts- we've bombed drafts during Berry's tenure-- sure hit home runs last draft- we need more home runs on O line this year.....GO Browns!!!
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I am really liking Monroe Freeling Left Tackle Georgia. Right now, looks like he should be available at pick 24 but I am worried he could move up fast after the combine. Analytics I think are really going to like him. He is 6'7 315lb. He is young with just 3 years removed from high school leaving after his true Junior season.
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Pick # 6, OT- Mauigoa (UM) or Fano (UT), #24, OT-Dunker (IA), #39, WR- Bell (UL) or Brazzell (TN) or Conception T A&M), #70, QB-Beck (UM) or OG-Reed-Adams (TA&M), #107, Best OG avail, #140, DL-Bear Alexander (OR), then BPA remainder. If Beck is gone, Cole Payton, QB, NDSt
6. Cleveland Browns: Carnell Tate, WR, Ohio State Cleveland needs help everywhere on offense, so it’s hard to pass on the best receiver in the class, according to the latest consensus rankings. The Chicago native and Buckeyes star led the Big Ten with nine catches over 40 yards. He finished 2025 with 875 yards and nine touchdowns alongside 2027 first-rounder-to-be Jeremiah Smith, despite missing multiple games during the regular season. Tate tracks the ball well and has underrated speed, which should make him a strong playmaker for new Browns head coach Todd Monken. — Cameron Teague Robinson
24. Cleveland Browns (from Jacksonville): Kadyn Proctor, T, Alabama After passing on an offensive tackle with their first pick, the Browns had to go for it here. Proctor might not be the sure thing that Fano or Mauigoa are, but his athleticism is obvious. He doesn’t move like he is 360 pounds but when you see how he carries that weight on his 6-7 frame, you understand why he’s garnered a lot of interest from scouts. His technique will need some fine tuning, but he’s a good pass blocker with a high ceiling. —
This is honestly the way I am leaning. There are 3 or 4 genuine difference makers at WR a position of desperate need. Jordyn Tyson is another I like. I'd be happy to take a number of OL guys at 24 and in the 2nd round.
I'd also be uber happy to draft down to 13-18 range and let things play out and pick up an extra 1st next year. We'll know so much more about the offense next year and having two 1st next year would be a huge advantage in (hopefully) putting final pieces together.
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6. Cleveland Browns: Carnell Tate, WR, Ohio State Cleveland needs help everywhere on offense, so it’s hard to pass on the best receiver in the class, according to the latest consensus rankings. The Chicago native and Buckeyes star led the Big Ten with nine catches over 40 yards. He finished 2025 with 875 yards and nine touchdowns alongside 2027 first-rounder-to-be Jeremiah Smith, despite missing multiple games during the regular season. Tate tracks the ball well and has underrated speed, which should make him a strong playmaker for new Browns head coach Todd Monken. — Cameron Teague Robinson
24. Cleveland Browns (from Jacksonville): Kadyn Proctor, T, Alabama After passing on an offensive tackle with their first pick, the Browns had to go for it here. Proctor might not be the sure thing that Fano or Mauigoa are, but his athleticism is obvious. He doesn’t move like he is 360 pounds but when you see how he carries that weight on his 6-7 frame, you understand why he’s garnered a lot of interest from scouts. His technique will need some fine tuning, but he’s a good pass blocker with a high ceiling. —
This is honestly the way I am leaning. There are 3 or 4 genuine difference makers at WR a position of desperate need. Jordyn Tyson is another I like. I'd be happy to take a number of OL guys at 24 and in the 2nd round.
I'd also be uber happy to draft down to 13-18 range and let things play out and pick up an extra 1st next year. We'll know so much more about the offense next year and having two 1st next year would be a huge advantage in (hopefully) putting final pieces together.
I would be happy with this draft. The only worry I have with Proctor is wear and tear on a man that size in the NFL. I know he moves better than 360# should, but for how long? I think the Browns may take Dawand Jones into account here and pass on Proctor.
I would be happy with this draft. The only worry I have with Proctor is wear and tear on a man that size in the NFL. I know he moves better than 360# should, but for how long? I think the Browns may take Dawand Jones into account here and pass on Proctor.
Injury issues aside, do you think Dawand Jones has what it takes to be a long-term starter at RT?
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24. Cleveland Browns (from Jacksonville): Kadyn Proctor, T, Alabama After passing on an offensive tackle with their first pick, the Browns had to go for it here. Proctor might not be the sure thing that Fano or Mauigoa are, but his athleticism is obvious. He doesn’t move like he is 360 pounds but when you see how he carries that weight on his 6-7 frame, you understand why he’s garnered a lot of interest from scouts. His technique will need some fine tuning, but he’s a good pass blocker with a high ceiling. —
Please no. I see this guy as another Jed Wills. No real passion for the game. Just an enormous human being. I see him getting beat like a drum in the NFL (hot take over).
I would be happy with this draft. The only worry I have with Proctor is wear and tear on a man that size in the NFL. I know he moves better than 360# should, but for how long? I think the Browns may take Dawand Jones into account here and pass on Proctor.
Injury issues aside, do you think Dawand Jones has what it takes to be a long-term starter at RT?
My unsolicited opinion: No. The Browns should move forward with Dawand Jones as a swing tackle. He has never been able to stay healthy and if the Browns are counting on that changing, it's just yet another miscalculation.
I would be happy with this draft. The only worry I have with Proctor is wear and tear on a man that size in the NFL. I know he moves better than 360# should, but for how long? I think the Browns may take Dawand Jones into account here and pass on Proctor.
Injury issues aside, do you think Dawand Jones has what it takes to be a long-term starter at RT?
My unsolicited opinion: No. The Browns should move forward with Dawand Jones as a swing tackle. He has never been able to stay healthy and if the Browns are counting on that changing, it's just yet another miscalculation.
You are always encouraged to chime in, Milk!
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Irish and Milk ... I'm not advocating for Proctor. I honestly don't know enough about any of the OL in the draft other than draft reports. There's 3 wr that I'd love to see in a Browns uni.
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I would be happy with this draft. The only worry I have with Proctor is wear and tear on a man that size in the NFL. I know he moves better than 360# should, but for how long? I think the Browns may take Dawand Jones into account here and pass on Proctor.
Injury issues aside, do you think Dawand Jones has what it takes to be a long-term starter at RT?
From what I see on tape, I think he could succeed at right tackle in the NFL. The long-term is what worries me the most. He's only been in the league for 3 years and he has yet to finish a season unscathed. His last two years were expectations to start due to injuries to Conklin in 2024 and as the left tackle replacement in 2025, both years were a bust because of season ending injuries. I wouldn't count on him to be more than a swing tackle at this point. If he can make it through an entire season in 2026 doing just that, then maybe think about his future. He is on the last year of his rookie deal, so it doesn't look good.
Edit: lol, I should have kept reading, someone beat me to it almost word for word...
The second sentence for the second selection is where they're losing me.
I know you're not supposed to do this with draft picks, but I don't see how picking a tackle in the first round and then saying he may not be a long-term answer is a smart move... especially considering where we are right now in terms of the offensive roster.
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The second sentence for the second selection is where they're losing me.
I know you're not supposed to do this with draft picks, but I don't see how picking a tackle in the first round and then saying he may not be a long-term answer is a smart move... especially considering where we are right now in terms of the offensive roster.
Talking about Dawand Jones, not a draft pick. He is currently the only vested veteran left on the roster, but has had injuries his first 3 years in the NFL.
I would be happy with this draft. The only worry I have with Proctor is wear and tear on a man that size in the NFL. I know he moves better than 360# should, but for how long? I think the Browns may take Dawand Jones into account here and pass on Proctor.
Injury issues aside, do you think Dawand Jones has what it takes to be a long-term starter at RT?
From what I see on tape, I think he could succeed at right tackle in the NFL. The long-term is what worries me the most. He's only been in the league for 3 years and he has yet to finish a season unscathed. His last two years were expectations to start due to injuries to Conklin in 2024 and as the left tackle replacement in 2025, both years were a bust because of season ending injuries. I wouldn't count on him to be more than a swing tackle at this point. If he can make it through an entire season in 2026 doing just that, then maybe think about his future. He is on the last year of his rookie deal, so it doesn't look good.
Edit: lol, I should have kept reading, someone beat me to it almost word for word...
Good stuff, IrishDawg. I always enjoy reading your takes.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I mean for the record, Trent Brown has been in the league for 12 years at his size..... BUT... he is also another example of why NOT to draft a guy that size.
Combine is starting Thursday Here are my Predictions:
Fanu measures in smaller and weaker than expected Because of that he drops out of the top 10, maybe top 20
Mauigoa's arm length will be really important If long enough he goes before our pick at #6 If short then he gets re-calssified as a guard and drops
Monroe Freeling impresses and over the next few weeks skyrockets To the point that there's no way he is available at #24 To the point he enters the conversation for us at #6
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The second sentence for the second selection is where they're losing me.
I know you're not supposed to do this with draft picks, but I don't see how picking a tackle in the first round and then saying he may not be a long-term answer is a smart move... especially considering where we are right now in terms of the offensive roster.
Talking about Dawand Jones, not a draft pick. He is currently the only vested veteran left on the roster, but has had injuries his first 3 years in the NFL.
Sorry, I should've quoted... I was responding to when you posted the mock draft blurb that had us taking our tackle later.
"I'll take your word at face value. I have never met you but I assume you have a face..lol"
The second sentence for the second selection is where they're losing me.
I know you're not supposed to do this with draft picks, but I don't see how picking a tackle in the first round and then saying he may not be a long-term answer is a smart move... especially considering where we are right now in terms of the offensive roster.
Talking about Dawand Jones, not a draft pick. He is currently the only vested veteran left on the roster, but has had injuries his first 3 years in the NFL.
Sorry, I should've quoted... I was responding to when you posted the mock draft blurb that had us taking our tackle later.
Got it, you were talking about Proctor. I am worried about longevity with him, which is why, for me, I would pass on him. I’d take a better guard, regardless of the LT need.
Monroe Freeling NFL Combine results: Georgia OT scores monster RAS, reinforces first-round draft projection originally appeared on The Sporting News. Add The Sporting News as a Preferred Source by clicking here.
NFL fans always want their team to draft an electric difference maker in the first round of the NFL Draft. This tends to be either a quarterback, running back, wide receiver, EDGE rusher, linebacker or lockdown corner.
While it is a thankless job in the league, a strong offensive line is imperative to success more times than not. Some teams in the first round are inevitably going to take an offensive lineman, and for many fans, the NFL Combine is where they will first get introduced to the top linemen in the class.
One of the offensive linemen who shone brightest was Georgia's Morgan Freeling. While he didn't set any records for the offensive linemen, that didn't stop him from turning heads with a consistently high level of production, which, when put together, did make him stand out all-time for offensive linemen.
Here is more on Freeling's RAS (Relative Athletic Score) and how it measures up all-time for offensive linemen.
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Monroe Freeling RAS
RAS stands for Relative Athletic Score. It was a system designed by Kent Lee Platt. RAS is a metric that ranges from 0-10 that ranks NFL draft prospects based on their Combine and/or Pro Day performance based on size, speed, agility and explosion. Each metric is given a score and then it is averaged for an overall score which can then be used to rank the prospect with all those at his position before him.
Freeling was first ranked when he still had the agility drills and bench to go. But, at the time of his unofficial ranking, he was given a 9.99 out of 10 which would have ranked him as the second-best offensive tackle since 1987 in RAS.
Monroe Freeling 40 time
Freeling ran a 4.93-second 40-yard dash.
While that wasn't fast enough to take the title of fastest offensive lineman at the 2026 NFL Combine, it did tie him with Jalen Farmer of Kentucky for 4th-fastest.
Monroe Freeling height, weight
Freeling was measured at 6-foot-7, 315 lbs. at the Combine. He was tied for the third-tallest offensive lineman who worked out at the Combine. Sporting News' Vinnie Iyer released a mock draft after the Combine, and he had Freeling going 25th overall to the Chicago Bears.
Monroe Freeling vertical jump
Freeling's vertical jump was 33.5" inches. This ranked fifth-best at the 2026 Combine for an offensive lineman. Northwestern's Caleb Tiernan had the best vertical for an offensive lineman at the 2026 NFL Combine, coming in at 35.50".
Before the Combine, ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. has Freeling as his OT3 behind Spencer Fano and Francis Mauigoa. Fano had the slightly faster 40-yard dash, but a shorter vertical and broad jump. Mauigoa didn't test at the Combine, so it will be interesting to see if Kiper adjusts the order after Freeling's strong performance.
Monroe Freeling broad jump
Freeling's broad jump was 9'7". This was tied for the third-furthest broad jump for an offensive lineman at this year's Combine. Parker Brailsford from Alabama had a 9'10" broad jump, beating out second-place Enrique Cruz by two inches.
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NFL combine 2026: Grading Spencer Fano, Kadyn Proctor and other top OL prospects during on-field workouts Seven offensive linemen rank among CBS Sports' top 25 overall prospects By Josh Edwards
The two NFL teams that appeared in the Super Bowl -- the Patriots and the Seahawks -- each used last year's first-round pick on an offensive lineman. Who from this year's draft could follow a similar path? This year's candidates participated in athletic testing and on-field drills Sunday to close out the NFL Scouting Combine.
CBS Sports currently has seven prospects ranked among the top-25 overall: Alabama's Kadyn Proctor, Penn State's Olaivavega Ioane, Utah's Caleb Lomu and Spencer Fano, Miami's Francis Mauigoa, Arizona State's Max Iheanachor and Clemson's Blake Miller. A year ago, eight offensive linemen heard their names called on opening night of the draft.
Here is how several offensive linemen fared Sunday in Indianapolis. The 2026 NFL Draft will take place April 23–25 in Pittsburgh. You can find more draft coverage at CBSSports.com, including weekly mock drafts and regular evaluations of the top prospects.
Grading top OL prospects
Francis Mauigoa MIAMI • OL • #61 View Profile Measurables: 6-foot-5½, 329 pounds, 10⅝-inch hands, 33¼-inch arm length, 80¾-inch wingspan Testing: Did not participate in on-field testing Grade: NA -- Francis Mauigoa did not participate in athletic testing or on-field workouts, but that does not change the likelihood he will be the first offensive lineman drafted. That remains a strong possibility.
Spencer Fano UTAH • OL • #55 View Profile Measurables: 6-foot-5½, 311 pounds, 9-inch hands, 32⅛-inch arm length, 80¼-inch wingspan Testing: 4.91-second 40-yard dash, 1.72-second 10-yard split, 32-inch vertical jump, 9-foot-3 broad jump, 7.34-second 3-cone, 4.67-second shuttle Grade: A- -- Spencer Fano's arm length is below average for the position, a hot-button topic coming off Will Campbell's Super Bowl performance. Fano is a technician with plus movement skills. Regardless of where he lines up, he should be successful. His energy is infectious, and his name was among the standouts in nearly every drill.
The only limiting factor for his tackle aspirations is the lack of ideal length, but Fano should still be one of the first offensive linemen selected in April. His brother, Logan Fano, is also in this draft.
Monroe Freeling UGA • OL • #57 View Profile Measurables: 6-foot-7⅜, 315 pounds, 10¾-inch hands, 34¾-inch arm length, 84½-inch wingspan Testing: 4.93-second 40-yard dash, 1.71-second 10-yard split, 33.5-inch vertical jump, 9-foot-7 broad jump Grade: A -- Monroe Freeling possesses prototypical size for the position, and his athletic testing was excellent. During offensive line drills, his fluidity and lateral quickness stood out. The Bulldog drew praise for his movement skills in the wave drill and likely would have earned an A+ had he not cut the mirror drill slightly short.
In a draft class lacking an elite left tackle whose length and athleticism fully match the tape, Freeling has an opportunity to fill that void. He will not turn 22 until rookie training camp.
Monroe Freeling is a OT prospect in the 2026 draft class. He scored an unofficial 9.99 RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 2 out of 1512 OT from 1987 to 2026.
Olaivavega Ioane PSU • OL • #71 View Profile Measurables: 6-foot-4¼, 320 pounds, 10½-inch hands, 32¾-inch arm length, 80⅝-inch wingspan Testing: 31.5-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-8 broad jump Grade: B+ -- Olaivavega Ioane did not complete full athletic testing, but his on-field performance validated what showed up on tape. He is a wide, powerful blocker who moves well for his size and sets the tone up front. The Penn State product was listed as a standout in essentially every drill. Ioane could be the first interior offensive lineman drafted in April.
Caleb Lomu UTAH • OL • #71 View Profile Measurables: 6-foot-6¼, 313 pounds, 9½-inch hands, 33⅜-inch arm length, 82¾-inch wingspan Testing: 4.99-second 40-yard dash, 1.74-second 10-yard split, 32.5-inch vertical jump, 9-foot-5 broad jump Grade: B -- Caleb Lomu's strengths and weaknesses played out in real time Sunday. He moves well for his size and stood out in the wave drill, but his punch lacked the power displayed by others. Given his technical foundation, Lomu still offers one of the highest ceilings at the position, though his push to be OT1 lost some momentum. His profile projects to the late first round or early Day 2 as teams evaluate his play strength.
Kadyn Proctor BAMA • OL • #74 View Profile Measurables: 6-foot-6⅝, 352 pounds, 9¾-inch hands, 33⅜-inch arm length, 81⅝-inch wingspan Testing: 5.21-second 40-yard dash, 1.84-second 10-yard split, 32.5-inch vertical jump, 9-foot-1 broad jump Grade: B -- Few 352-pound athletes move as well as Kadyn Proctor. After slipping early in drills, he recovered well and showed the shock in his hands by knocking the hat off a pad holder.
Several offensive tackles may come off the board before Proctor, but he remains firmly in the first-round conversation.
Max Iheanachor ARIZST • OL • #58 View Profile Measurables: 6-foot-5⅞, 321 pounds, 9-inch hands, 33⅞-inch arm length, 83¼-inch wingspan Testing: 4.91-second 40-yard dash, 1.73-second 10-yard split, 30.5-inch vertical jump, 9-foot-7 broad jump Grade: B+ -- Max Iheanachor has long been viewed as more powerful than athletic, but his testing suggested otherwise. He has made clear technical strides over the past year and has a legitimate case to be a first-round pick. His reaction time stood out during drills, particularly in the wave drill.
Max Iheanachor's 4.91u is tied for the best so far among the OL group
Blake Miller CLEM • OL • #78 View Profile Measurables: 6-foot-6¾, 317 pounds, 9¾-inch hands, 34¼-inch arm length, 83⅞-inch wingspan Testing: 5.04-second 40-yard dash, 1.75-second 10-yard split, 32-inch vertical jump, 9-foot-5 broad jump Grade: B -- Blake Miller checked the boxes across the board. He performed well in every area, even if he did not dominate anything in particular. Evaluators listed him among the standouts in most workouts, and his jumps were impressive. Clemson has not produced a first-round offensive lineman in the modern era, but Miller has a chance to end that streak.
Other standouts Chase Bisontis, Texas A&M
Measurables: 6-foot-5¼, 315 pounds, 9¾-inch hands, 31¾-inch arm length, 78⅞-inch wingspan Testing: 5.02-second 40-yard dash, 1.76-second 10-yard split, 32-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-9 broad jump, 7.53-second 3-cone, 4.78-second shuttle Chase Bisontis tested well, but his movement skills stood out most. He ranked among the top performers in nearly every drill. Those around the league view Day 2 as the most likely range, though his pass-protection production gives him a chance to sneak into Thursday night.
Jude Bowry, Boston College
Measurables: 6-foot-5⅛, 314 pounds, 10¾-inch hands, 33¾-inch arm length Testing: 5.08-second 40-yard dash, 1.75-second 10-yard split, 34.5-inch vertical jump, 9-foot-7 broad jump Jude Bowry has been on the NFL radar for several years. His athletic testing was surprising to me given his power-based profile. During drills, he showed strong control and calculated movement. He has top-75 potential in my opinion, which may be a bit rich for some folks.
Sam Hecht, Kansas State
Measurables: 6-foot-4⅛, 303 pounds, 9⅞-inch hands, 31⅝-inch arm length, 76⅞-inch wingspan Testing: 5.10-second 40-yard dash, 1.73-second 10-yard split, 28-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-5 broad jump, 7.75-second 3-cone, 4.71-second shuttle Auburn's Connor Lew -- sidelined by injury -- and Hecht have been viewed as the top two center prospects throughout the season. Hecht reinforced that standing with a steady performance.
Logan Jones, Iowa
Measurables: 6-foot-2⅞, 299 pounds, 9½-inch hands, 30¾-inch arm length Testing: 4.90-second 40-yard dash, 1.75-second 10-yard split, 32-inch vertical jump, 9-foot-2 broad jump, 7.46-second 3-cone, 4.59-second shuttle Jones adds depth to an already strong center class. While Iowa linemen are known for physicality, Jones paired that with an impressive athletic showing. From the 40-yard dash to the long pull drill, he consistently showed range.
Keylan Rutledge, Georgia Tech
Measurables: 6-foot-4, 316 pounds, 10-inch hands, 33¼-inch arm length Testing: 5.05-second 40-yard dash, 1.81-second 10-yard split, 32.5-inch vertical jump, 8-foot-8 broad jump, 7.54-second 3-cone, 4.54 shuttle Rutledge is a big, powerful blocker who also thrives in space and getting downhill in the run game. He turned in a strong workout Sunday, showcasing lateral mobility and second-level ability. Round 2 is in the mix for Rutledge.
There were several others who made an impression, including Texas A&M's Trey Zuhn III, Boston College's Logan Taylor, Washington's Carver Willis and Alabama's Parker Brailsford.
Blake Miller CLEM • OL • #78 View Profile Measurables: 6-foot-6¾, 317 pounds, 9¾-inch hands, 34¼-inch arm length, 83⅞-inch wingspan Testing: 5.04-second 40-yard dash, 1.75-second 10-yard split, 32-inch vertical jump, 9-foot-5 broad jump Grade: B -- Blake Miller checked the boxes across the board. He performed well in every area, even if he did not dominate anything in particular. Evaluators listed him among the standouts in most workouts, and his jumps were impressive. Clemson has not produced a first-round offensive lineman in the modern era, but Miller has a chance to end that streak.
A Cleveland kid from Strongsville.
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Monroe Freeling is really the top pure Left Tackle in the class. I thought before the combine that if/when he tested well, he would move up. I believe before the draft gets here he will have moved up enough that the Browns would have to use #6 or a small trade down to like 8 or 9 to get Freeling. If he would have went back to Georgia and came out in 2027, he would have been seen as a Joe Thomas type talent. I would have no issue drafting Monroe Freeling at #6.
Blake Miller at #24 for the right side of the line would not be too bad either. Imagine getting bookend tackles for the next decade in 1 draft. Whoever is our long-term answer at QB would sure like that.
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I just did an extremely unrealistic Mock Draft, but if it fell anywhere near this... it would set up the possibility to go all in on a QB in 2027.
Lets start with the trades that were made: #6 traded to Dallas, We receive 2026 #1.12 and 1.20, Dallas receives #1.6, 3.70 and 2027 5th round pick. #12 traded to San Diego, We receive #1.22, 2.55 and 2027 4th round pick, San Diego receives #1.12 #144 traded to Washington, we receive #5.145 and 7.224, Washington receives #5.144 #147 traded to Miami, we receive #5.149 and 7.228, Miami receives #5.147
Mock Draft, "fix the offense" 1.20 Makai Lemon WR/PR USC 5'11" Slot receiver and returner 1.22 Monroe Freeling LT Georgia, best LT prospect in the draft, HIGHLY unlikely he would be here in April, probably would need to use that #12 pick from this trade cycle instead of making that second trade. 1.24 Caleb Lomu RT Utah 2.39 Chase Bisontis LG Texas A&M, IMHO the second best interior lineman in this draft behind Ioane from PSU. 2.55 Chris Brazell WR Tennessee 6'4" X receiver, 4.37 40 4.107 Billy Schrauth RG Notre Dame, very good inside lineman. 2nd round grade with an injury history. 5.139 Kaytron Allen RB Penn State, this is the guy you stick in on 3rd and short and goal line. He finds the endzone inside the 4 yard line. 5. 5.145 Parker Brailsford C Alabama, arguably one of the top zone scheme centers in the draft. He will need help with bull rushers, as he has a smaller frame. 5.149 Taurean York Will LB Texas A&M, good value here on a thin position on defense. 6.205 Eli Raridon TE Notre Dame, I watched every Irish game, he is a great blocking TE, with good hands to come off the block on designs or as a check down. He doesn't have Fannin's route skills 7.224 Taylen Green QB Arkansas, worth seeing the hype in person, probably a PS guy 7.228 Keyshaun Elliot LB Arizona State backup, will need to prove his worth as a special teamer to make the roster 7.249 Logan Fano EDGE Utah, good value here, probably relegated to PS
Now, first of all I expect them to do something in free agency which will more than likely make 2027 draft picks a more likely move than this draft above. It's a wait and see game. We should have a better idea of their plans in about 3 weeks.
1.22 Monroe Freeling LT Georgia, best LT prospect in the draft, HIGHLY unlikely he would be here in April, probably would need to use that #12 pick from this trade cycle instead of making that second trade.
Not sure he will still be available.....
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Combine is starting Thursday Here are my Predictions:
Fanu measures in smaller and weaker than expected Because of that he drops out of the top 10, maybe top 20
Mauigoa's arm length will be really important If long enough he goes before our pick at #6 If short then he gets re-calssified as a guard and drops
Monroe Freeling impresses and over the next few weeks skyrockets To the point that there's no way he is available at #24 To the point he enters the conversation for us at #6
Fanu ran great but his arms measured short I hear that now he is even working out at center
Mauigoa's arms are borderline
I have seen 3 post combine mocks already that have us taking Freeling at #6
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I know taking a guard at #6 isn't the norm but neither is taking a Safety or a RB Downs and Love likely go top 10
Many mocks I see have the Ravens taking either Ioane or a Wr at #14 Would love to drop down a few picks and take Ioane But if not, is #6 that much higher than#14?
After Ioane, I would try to trade up to get Freeling That would fix the left side of our o-line for the next 12+ years
Alternatively, trade up for Wr Tyson
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If we could trade back to Dallas and get another 1st rounder, I am all for that - just have a feeling he may be scooped up between 6 and 12, if that were to happen.
If we could trade back to Dallas and get another 1st rounder, I am all for that - just have a feeling he may be scooped up between 6 and 12, if that were to happen.
If we could trade back to Dallas and get another 1st rounder, I am all for that - just have a feeling he may be scooped up between 6 and 12, if that were to happen.
You could be right. He might be the only pure left tackle in this draft, which will definitely inflate his draft stock, even if he isn't the next Joe Thomas.
Being the best athlete doesn't always mean the best tackle. Maybe Freeling gets there, but right now I don't think he's the best OT. At times, athleticism can get a lineman in trouble. Being explosive is great if you can stay under control and in balance. He's got a lot of technical improvement to get done.
Can he get it done? ...Maybe.
If I'm taking OL at 6, I want him ready to start and lock it down.
I don't dislike the prospect, but I liked him a lot more as a developmental upside bet.
On the other hand, growing pains at LT do make QB next year potentially more straight forward.
Hopefully someone needing defense wants to move up.
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Just watched Joe Thomas talk about arm length, etc., etc.- he stated broad jump important- explosion and body control-- I'd listen to best ever tackle- I'm in for Freeling- Joe was pretty light but athletic. Bench press and 10 yard time shows train. Go Browns!!!
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Pick # 6, OT- Mauigoa (UM) or Fano (UT), #24, OT-Dunker (IA), #39, WR- Bell (UL) or Brazzell (TN) or Conception T A&M), #70, QB-Beck (UM), #107, OG-Reed-Adams (TA&M) or best OG avail
I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of ceiling if it means getting a LT that we feel confident can come in and play competently in the NFL. I think we could see a huge overall boost just by stabilizing the OT position (vs shooting for the moon on a prospect).
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Just watched Joe Thomas talk about arm length, etc., etc.- he stated broad jump important- explosion and body control-- I'd listen to best ever tackle- I'm in for Freeling- Joe was pretty light but athletic. Bench press and 10 yard time shows train. Go Browns!!!
I would ask Joe for his oline pick list and just use that going forward.
I'm willing to sacrifice a little bit of ceiling if it means getting a LT that we feel confident can come in and play competently in the NFL. I think we could see a huge overall boost just by stabilizing the OT position (vs shooting for the moon on a prospect).
I agree. However, I don't want to draft another RT early, when we supposedly just traded for our starting RT. Most of these offensive tackles in this draft are either RT or G in the NFL. We need to be aware of what they will be when evaluating them. Had we signed a competent LT, then yes, I would have no issue with drafting a RT early. However, they have already stated Tytus Howard was traded to play RT, not get pushed inside to G. To me, they are skating around every question they are asked, so to come out and say he was traded to be our RT means, he is going to play RT.
My fear lies in desperation.. both ours and the other teams drafting in the top 20. Do I think Freeling is going to be an All Pro in 3 years? His film doesn't indicate the skillset to be that, but he certainly has the build to be a very relevant LT in this league. Picking #6 overall, I expect a team changer... I'm still not sold Freeling is a team changer. Now, if you could drop down 6-9 spots, pick up another first round in this or next year's draft and still get him, we are talking the correct wheel house of his expected improvement to the team. If he over performs, great! He could be a steal. If he performs right about where we expect him to, then it will be underwhelming and disappointing if someone like Carnell Tate becomes an All Pro WR and our Monroe Freeling is signing his extended contract, but has never really shown if he should get one, certainly not considered for a top 5 LT contract.
Again, I have no issue trading down and getting more players for that #6 spot... If we can't find that trade partner, there are certainly going to be players worthy of the #6 pick. Caleb Downs, Carnell Tate, Fernando Mendoza, Arvell Reese, Rueben Bain.. In fact, if I am going to go offensive line "No Matter What", I would rather over reach for Ioane over any of these other linemen. I think he is the one guy in this draft that is going to dominate his position...Can't take a guard there, so which ever of the previous 6 were available, I'd be good taking them.
I feel like I could name a handful of guys in this situation, but for the sake of keeping it short--If one of Caleb Downs, Jeremiyah Love or even Sonny Styles is sitting there at #6, I could easily see a team trying to move up to get one of these guys. Especially Love with teams like KC, NO, WAS all possibly salivating for him and they're picking back to back to back from 7-9. Or a team like DAL wanting Downs. At this point, I'd love to trade down a few spots and then pick up Freeling.
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The best scenario the Browns could hope for is to fill holes in free agency best they can, so they are not forced to take a player of need. The best teams always take best player available early. Example would be if you see an O Lineman as a possible all pro vs Caleb Downs as a generational hall of famer. You should not pass up the hall of famer. I would not have an issue with that. You still have the reminder of the draft to fill need. When a difference maker is available you cannot pass him up.
Also, the 2027 draft is being viewed by many as one of the all-time best drafts in history. Teams will be very reluctant to trade 1st round picks out of that draft. If an opportunity arose and a team offered the Browns a 2027 1st it will be very hard to pass up.
If they had to stay at #6 and draft an Oline or WR I think they have to take the LT from Georgia Monroe Freeling. He fits the analytics best. He is young, he plays a premium position and was viewed as a 1st round talent before impressing at the combine. The performance at the combine just solidifies the tape. If he stayed in college 1 more year he would have been seen as the top tackle in next year's draft and probably a top 10 pick even in a good draft. That would be my target if no trade down. a trade down is my preference especially if you can get a 2027 1st. Might have to drop further than you wanted though but premium talent is expected to be much deeper in that draft class. I will have no issue with a Caleb Downs if the Browns believe like I do that he will be a hall of famer someday and draft him. Nick Saban only had Downs as a freshman and said he was the smartest player he ever coached.
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I can't say I really disagree with anything you posted. I do know that need always plays a part in the draft process. Just how far it goes I would say may vary from team to team.
I certainly agree that the goal is to fill all of your major needs in the FA market to free you up in the draft to pick BPA. Yet at the same time that's not always possible. Sometimes it's because you have so many needs it's impossible to fill them all in the FA market or much like this year so many teams have needs at similar positions.
Better teams seem to have less needs making it an easier job for them to accomplish that than teams near the bottom with more needs.
The OL seems to be a need of many teams. Both at the OT position as well as interior linemen. And generally speaking, solid LT's are never allowed to hit the FA market.
I don't quite know where that will leave the Browns on draft day or how much need will dictate their picks. But if I had to guess I would venture to say that OT may be their first pick and WR their second pick.
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I know taking a guard at #6 isn't the norm but neither is taking a Safety or a RB Downs and Love likely go top 10
Many mocks I see have the Ravens taking either Ioane or a Wr at #14 Would love to drop down a few picks and take Ioane But if not, is #6 that much higher than#14?
After Ioane, I would try to trade up to get Freeling That would fix the left side of our o-line for the next 12+ years
Alternatively, trade up for Wr Tyson
I like Guards and centers. If you have a wall up the middle, the QB has room to step up. As long as your tackles don't get beat inside, the DE rush is largely eliminated. Their attack angle is changed taking them right back in to the tackle.
That is if the QB has room to take a few steps forward.
As some have said, I like Freeling as well. I do question something about the evaluation process. Freeling goes from a lower 1st round pick to top 10? Something is off here. Was it the initial evaluations or is the combine hype inflating his real value?
Love, I'd take him at 6 if he is there. Who doesn't want a Gibbs or Barkley on their team? A tandem of Love and Judkins would be pretty sweet.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
I know taking a guard at #6 isn't the norm but neither is taking a Safety or a RB Downs and Love likely go top 10
Many mocks I see have the Ravens taking either Ioane or a Wr at #14 Would love to drop down a few picks and take Ioane But if not, is #6 that much higher than#14?
After Ioane, I would try to trade up to get Freeling That would fix the left side of our o-line for the next 12+ years
Alternatively, trade up for Wr Tyson
I like Guards and centers. If you have a wall up the middle, the QB has room to step up. As long as your tackles don't get beat inside, the DE rush is largely eliminated. Their attack angle is changed taking them right back in to the tackle.
That is if the QB has room to take a few steps forward.
As some have said, I like Freeling as well. I do question something about the evaluation process. Freeling goes from a lower 1st round pick to top 10? Something is off here. Was it the initial evaluations or is the combine hype inflating his real value?
Love, I'd take him at 6 if he is there. Who doesn't want a Gibbs or Barkley on their team? A tandem of Love and Judkins would be pretty sweet.
According to Tony Grossi podcast in Cleveland, he said at the combine last week the sentiment around NFL GMs was due to the workout of Freeling the media are just now getting around to what NFL GM's already thought about Freeling. Basically, NFL GM's had Freeling much higher on their boards than draft analyst before the combine and now the media sees what their scouts already saw, and he is moving up on their boards. I think a few of us were discussing Freeling before the combine and we came to the conclusion after his workouts he would move up especially because he plays a premium position and would not be available at #24. If dummies like us can see that NFL scouts were way ahead of that thought already.
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The best scenario the Browns could hope for is to fill holes in free agency best they can, so they are not forced to take a player of need. The best teams always take best player available early. Example would be if you see an O Lineman as a possible all pro vs Caleb Downs as a generational hall of famer. You should not pass up the hall of famer. I would not have an issue with that. You still have the reminder of the draft to fill need. When a difference maker is available you cannot pass him up.
Also, the 2027 draft is being viewed by many as one of the all-time best drafts in history. Teams will be very reluctant to trade 1st round picks out of that draft. If an opportunity arose and a team offered the Browns a 2027 1st it will be very hard to pass up.
If they had to stay at #6 and draft an Oline or WR I think they have to take the LT from Georgia Monroe Freeling. He fits the analytics best. He is young, he plays a premium position and was viewed as a 1st round talent before impressing at the combine. The performance at the combine just solidifies the tape. If he stayed in college 1 more year he would have been seen as the top tackle in next year's draft and probably a top 10 pick even in a good draft. That would be my target if no trade down. a trade down is my preference especially if you can get a 2027 1st. Might have to drop further than you wanted though but premium talent is expected to be much deeper in that draft class. I will have no issue with a Caleb Downs if the Browns believe like I do that he will be a hall of famer someday and draft him. Nick Saban only had Downs as a freshman and said he was the smartest player he ever coached.
You won't get an argument from me about generational evaluations. IF that prospect is evaluated that highly and he is available at #6, you just can't pass him up. Downs might end up being evaluated that highly, as might Sonny Styles. It could get interesting.
The part I might debate a little is where Monroe Freeling was rated based on film alone. Before everything started shaking out as to where tackles in this draft really fit within the scheme of a LT at the NFL level, Freeling was typically a mid-2nd rounder. As the waters settled and the lack of other LT candidates started to emerge, he started to emerge as a potential first rounder. A couple of weeks prior to the combine, he was finally cemented as an official first round candidate, then the underwear olympics have now thrust him into top 10 contention. I caution against over drafting based on the combine. It could set back the team as much as propelling it when they are wrong on a top 10 pick.
Mid to late January, once the bowls were in the books, Freeling started to pick up steam to possibly be a first rounder, then in February he was expected to be a first rounder, now we are discussing him as possibly #6 overall.
I know taking a guard at #6 isn't the norm but neither is taking a Safety or a RB Downs and Love likely go top 10
Many mocks I see have the Ravens taking either Ioane or a Wr at #14 Would love to drop down a few picks and take Ioane But if not, is #6 that much higher than#14?
After Ioane, I would try to trade up to get Freeling That would fix the left side of our o-line for the next 12+ years
Alternatively, trade up for Wr Tyson
I like Guards and centers. If you have a wall up the middle, the QB has room to step up. As long as your tackles don't get beat inside, the DE rush is largely eliminated. Their attack angle is changed taking them right back in to the tackle.
That is if the QB has room to take a few steps forward.
As some have said, I like Freeling as well. I do question something about the evaluation process. Freeling goes from a lower 1st round pick to top 10? Something is off here. Was it the initial evaluations or is the combine hype inflating his real value?
Love, I'd take him at 6 if he is there. Who doesn't want a Gibbs or Barkley on their team? A tandem of Love and Judkins would be pretty sweet.
According to Tony Grossi podcast in Cleveland, he said at the combine last week the sentiment around NFL GMs was due to the workout of Freeling the media are just now getting around to what NFL GM's already thought about Freeling. Basically, NFL GM's had Freeling much higher on their boards than draft analyst before the combine and now the media sees what their scouts already saw, and he is moving up on their boards. I think a few of us were discussing Freeling before the combine and we came to the conclusion after his workouts he would move up especially because he plays a premium position and would not be available at #24. If dummies like us can see that NFL scouts were way ahead of that thought already.
This is very true, I agree!! Scouts definitely see what we don't and what talking heads don't discuss. I am in total agreement that if they already had him evaluated as a top 15 talent coming out of the 2025 season, he definitely would deserve that #6 overall consideration.
Having the size, speed, and athleticism means that you can be taught the techniques and finer points.... and we have this guy named Joe that I guarantee would love to work with him on technique.
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
Having the size, speed, and athleticism means that you can be taught the techniques and finer points.... and we have this guy named Joe that I guarantee would love to work with him on technique.
Don't be so sure on either account..
Ever heard of a guy named Tony Mandarich? Supposed to be a hall of famer out of college, started a handful of games in his short career. He was dreadful. Looked the part...
JT has been out of the office since 2017-2018, that's 8 years (hard to believe) and he hasn't had the inkling to take up coaching. He is making good money with his on air gigs and his meat company. I don't think he wants to take time off to help the Browns groom a lineman. We needed to get Bill Callahan back in the building and that ship sailed when Stefanski stole him away to Atlanta. All we can do is hope the staff they brought on is good and they make the best choices once the draft arrives. I certainly hope Freeling is a future stud if he ends up in Cleveland, he just hasn't shown it to be that way yet, despite his nearly perfect makeup for the position.
Mandarich's downfall likely has a lot more to do with transitioning from massive amounts of steroids to massive amounts of painkillers. I don't think any "mentor" could have fixed that by working on technique.
Amen on the Joe Thomas comment- my gut tells me I want a real "beast" offensive lineman at 6....but we have D Jones, all 6ft 8in, 374 lbs, he is a BEAST- but, beast can't stay AVAILABLE. Feeling is slim atheletic LT who can gain weight, I for him over beast mode.
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To me solving for the LT is far more important than WR. Any WR is on the field for some fraction of plays and touches the ball only so many times. The LT is every play. As we saw last year in gruesome detail, if the LT is a ?, nothing works. If Freeling is the highest legit LT and he's definitely going to be gone at 24, take him at 6.
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I agree. The WR class this year is deep. We can get a solid one later in the 1st or 2nd round.
As of right now I think LT is Andrew Berry's top priority but with the work he has done this week in free agency he does not have to panic and reach for a LT at 6 if he does not have a #6 grade on any LT. I like Monroe Freeling but maybe Andrew Berry does not see him as worthy of the #6 he would not have to reach and select him and move to another option. I also think if he can he will make a trade for a receiver before the draft. That would lessen the overall desperation for a top receiver to be drafted at #6. I do think his top preference is to trade down like last year and acquire a 1st in 2027 where the draft for QB and top talent overall is perceived as being better. Also, if he was to trade for Brian Thomas, Marvin Harrison, Chris Oliave, or someone similar and he cannot find a trade down partner it would allow him to also take best player available at #6. Sunny Styles or Caleb Downs if he felt that they were just better than any other player available like the top LT or WR.
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All I can say is, if they draft him at #6, they better have him ranked in their top ten overall based on his game film, not his combine and not the #1 left tackle, but #28 overall. You cannot overdraft a player out of desperation or else you get Jedrick Wills. Berry’s career won’t survive another Jed Wills.
Position of need always plays into your draft board unless you have a top rated team with very little actual need. It always has and probably always will. How much is the only question left and since none of us will ever know what and how they arrived at the order of their draft board in this draft none of us will ever know the answer to that question.
We also have a deep need for a #1 WR. In this draft WR is an easier position to draft than LT. But if I were a betting man I would place a wager that the first pick they make in this draft will be one of those two positions.
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The old argument of BPA vs Need has always been silly because you always apply both. You start with BPA, but Need is the tiebreaker but at what point that gets applied is where the debate always sets in.... e.g. when you have a Top 5 player sitting there at #10 but you "reach" for a player at another position that some feel could have been gotten lower if you traded down (which ignores that you have to have a trade partner, you have to get value for that trade, and then you still have to hope the other guy would be there when your new pick rolls around). If one player is overwhelmingly graded higher, you take that player. Always. If you have two similarly graded/scored players, you take the one that is most likely to have the biggest impact (which may or may not, but usually will, align with perceived Need).
In the end, there is no hard & fast rule, it will always be a judgement call.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
The old argument of BPA vs Need has always been silly because you always apply both. You start with BPA, but Need is the tiebreaker but at what point that gets applied is where the debate always sets in.... e.g. when you have a Top 5 player sitting there at #10 but you "reach" for a player at another position that some feel could have been gotten lower if you traded down (which ignores that you have to have a trade partner, you have to get value for that trade, and then you still have to hope the other guy would be there when your new pick rolls around). If one player is overwhelmingly graded higher, you take that player. Always. If you have two similarly graded/scored players, you take the one that is most likely to have the biggest impact (which may or may not, but usually will, align with perceived Need).
In the end, there is no hard & fast rule, it will always be a judgement call.
Here is the question when taking best player available vs need. Looking back would you have rather drafted Ed Reed or William Green. The Browns drafted Green for need. They needed a running back. Which pick would have been better in the long run?
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
The old argument of BPA vs Need has always been silly because you always apply both. You start with BPA, but Need is the tiebreaker but at what point that gets applied is where the debate always sets in.... e.g. when you have a Top 5 player sitting there at #10 but you "reach" for a player at another position that some feel could have been gotten lower if you traded down (which ignores that you have to have a trade partner, you have to get value for that trade, and then you still have to hope the other guy would be there when your new pick rolls around). If one player is overwhelmingly graded higher, you take that player. Always. If you have two similarly graded/scored players, you take the one that is most likely to have the biggest impact (which may or may not, but usually will, align with perceived Need).
In the end, there is no hard & fast rule, it will always be a judgement call.
Here is the question when taking best player available vs need. Looking back would you have rather drafted Ed Reed or William Green. The Browns drafted Green for need. They needed a running back. Which pick would have been better in the long run?
And 240 picks later, nobody had drafted James Harrison.
The old argument of BPA vs Need has always been silly because you always apply both. You start with BPA, but Need is the tiebreaker but at what point that gets applied is where the debate always sets in.... e.g. when you have a Top 5 player sitting there at #10 but you "reach" for a player at another position that some feel could have been gotten lower if you traded down (which ignores that you have to have a trade partner, you have to get value for that trade, and then you still have to hope the other guy would be there when your new pick rolls around). If one player is overwhelmingly graded higher, you take that player. Always. If you have two similarly graded/scored players, you take the one that is most likely to have the biggest impact (which may or may not, but usually will, align with perceived Need).
In the end, there is no hard & fast rule, it will always be a judgement call.
Here is the question when taking best player available vs need. Looking back would you have rather drafted Ed Reed or William Green. The Browns drafted Green for need. They needed a running back. Which pick would have been better in the long run?
For starters, hindsight is 20/20. Beyond that, that's an incomplete example... how were each player graded by the team? If they were both graded as a '98' or A++ or whatever, then you go with need as the tie-breaker. If they were relatively close, then you factor in need, but grade may still win. If one was graded far better than the other, then you should absolutely draft the higher graded player.
Sometimes, it isn't a failure of philosophy, but simply a failure in scouting. If they didn't give Ed Reed a high enough grade, then they screwed up.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
The old argument of BPA vs Need has always been silly because you always apply both. You start with BPA, but Need is the tiebreaker but at what point that gets applied is where the debate always sets in.... e.g. when you have a Top 5 player sitting there at #10 but you "reach" for a player at another position that some feel could have been gotten lower if you traded down (which ignores that you have to have a trade partner, you have to get value for that trade, and then you still have to hope the other guy would be there when your new pick rolls around). If one player is overwhelmingly graded higher, you take that player. Always. If you have two similarly graded/scored players, you take the one that is most likely to have the biggest impact (which may or may not, but usually will, align with perceived Need).
In the end, there is no hard & fast rule, it will always be a judgement call.
Here is the question when taking best player available vs need. Looking back would you have rather drafted Ed Reed or William Green. The Browns drafted Green for need. They needed a running back. Which pick would have been better in the long run?
And 240 picks later, nobody had drafted James Harrison.
C'mon man!
Sounds like everyone failed in scouting on that one.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
I am becoming more and more torn on this draft class. I know how bad we need a LT, but I spent a lot of time searching out and watching game film on Freeling and Proctor. I tried watching some of the other prospects, but they are not LT guys. They are either RT or interior linemen. Problem is, unless Freeling improves a great deal in strength, both lower and upper body, he is going to be bullied in the NFL. He has the athleticism to get off the snap and get in position first. He can do a great job when it comes to DE trying to use finesse moves to get around the corner. He recognizes stunts pretty good as well, but damn, when it comes to moving a guy, he can't do it. He is much better a cut blocking a bull rusher. If he is out of position to properly use the cut block, he is getting beat over and over. He is going to be a liability in the run game year one as well. I'm not saying he can't develop, but he has a long way to go to be an effective run blocker.
Right now, despite my worries about Proctor's size and possible injuries earlier in his career than others, he is definitely the better prospect entering day one of the 2026 season. He is ready to step in and be your left tackle until you find a better replacement, then I think because of his mass, he could move inside and be even more dominant.
Personally, I think Proctor and Dwand Jones tag team would be more effective for the Browns success.
I know everyone has fallen in love with Freeling after the combine, but don't be surprised if he is still available at pick #24...then they still don't draft him. His game film says more than the fact he is a athletic beast. Everyone wants to elevate him after having the second highest athletic score at the combine for a lineman since 1987.
The number one prospect was actually (3) guys Taylor Lewan - never an all pro in his 9 seasons, but was regarded as a highly successful LT, but was also a highly successful college LT starting all 4 years at LT. Joe Staley - (3) All Pro years in his 13 year career. He was a great offensive lineman Robert Gallery - Highest draft pick of the group, being selected #2 overall based on his athletic scores.. He bounced between guard and tackle, never establishing himself as a good lineman
Here's my fear... Taylor Lewan was already touted as one of the best lineman in college before the combine, it showed when he entered the league. Joe Staley wasn't picked until #28. He was a TE convert that proved everyone wrong. 3-year starter at LT showing his early conversion was the right move. Robert Gallery wasn't a failure because of ability or athleticism. He was a college standout for his 4 years at Iowa starting his final 44 games, but mental health issues was his downfall. He couldn't handle the pressures of the NFL because of that.
I worry that Freeling, who is not a college standout LT on the playing field, will not be nearly as good as everyone deduces he will be based on athletic measurements. The difference we all need to sit up and notice.. Freeling has 17 starts. Why? Because he was not good enough to beat out 5 other players anywhere on the offensive line the other 17 games of his college career. He was beat out at LT by Earnest Greene III, he became the starter because of an injury to Greene. Greene is still in college after an injury that relegated him to RT due to back issues. If we are going to rely on the second best LT on Georgia's team, what are we doing?
I know everyone has fallen in love with Freeling....
Not me....I would be very hesitant to take him at #6. I would rather trade down several spots and select Proctor. I think he has a higher ceiling than Freeling as well as a higher floor. This is a good draft for OG's and RT's, not so much for OC and LT's....
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I know everyone has fallen in love with Freeling after the combine, but don't be surprised if he is still available at pick #24...then they still don't draft him.
I don't think Freeling or Proctor will be available at #24. There are a limited amount of tackles in early rounds of the draft and if one doesn't believe in the idea that a good tackle can play either LT or RT, then that pool drops significantly. I think it is more likely WR falls in the first than the true LT. Another interesting nugget (and I'm not sure if it has been noted already) but Monken was part of the Georgia coaching staff that recruited Freeling so his input might way heavily in this decision.
I think a story line in the draft COULD be all the wheeling and dealing to secure a tackle in the first round. I
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I know everyone has fallen in love with Freeling after the combine, but don't be surprised if he is still available at pick #24...then they still don't draft him.
I don't think Freeling or Proctor will be available at #24. There are a limited amount of tackles in early rounds of the draft and if one doesn't believe in the idea that a good tackle can play either LT or RT, then that pool drops significantly. I think it is more likely WR falls in the first than the true LT. Another interesting nugget (and I'm not sure if it has been noted already) but Monken was part of the Georgia coaching staff that recruited Freeling so his input might way heavily in this decision.
I think a story line in the draft COULD be all the wheeling and dealing to secure a tackle in the first round. I
I am sure he has great personal relationship with Kirby at Georgia and he will know exactly Kirby's thoughts on Freeling.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
First of all, I’m sure Monroe Freeling wasn’t the only 2022-2024 recruit that Georgia talked to their parents. I haven’t heard anyone ask him if he has talked to any other prospect but Freeling. For all we know, Georgia recruited over half of the top 50 offensive players in this draft.
Second, what does anyone really think Kirby Smart is going to say about Freeling? “I wouldn’t draft him, he isn’t ready and I don’t know if he ever will be?”. NO! The higher his kids get picked the easier it is to recruit better ones to your school. I don’t care what your perceived relationship is between Kirby and Monken, Kirby is going to try to sell his kids to anyone that will listen.
Look at the film AND look at his career, where he couldn’t break the starting lineup until a player in front of him was injured. That’s where I am coming from. If you take those two things into account, he’s a day two prospect. Taking the combine into account, he rises to a late first early second round prospect.
I tend to believe that a HC at a major college program would NOT oversell a player unless he believed in that player. I think he’d want to be totally upfront with the NFL teams that he deals with.
Georgia is still going to be able to recruit top-level talent, no matter what happens with Freeling.
First of all, I’m sure Monroe Freeling wasn’t the only 2022-2024 recruit that Georgia talked to their parents. I haven’t heard anyone ask him if he has talked to any other prospect but Freeling. For all we know, Georgia recruited over half of the top 50 offensive players in this draft.
Second, what does anyone really think Kirby Smart is going to say about Freeling? “I wouldn’t draft him, he isn’t ready and I don’t know if he ever will be?”. NO! The higher his kids get picked the easier it is to recruit better ones to your school. I don’t care what your perceived relationship is between Kirby and Monken, Kirby is going to try to sell his kids to anyone that will listen.
Look at the film AND look at his career, where he couldn’t break the starting lineup until a player in front of him was injured. That’s where I am coming from. If you take those two things into account, he’s a day two prospect. Taking the combine into account, he rises to a late first early second round prospect.
Kirby and Monken have a personal friendship. Monken was Kirby's offensive coordinator for 2 National Championship teams. What Kirby would Coach speak to most NFL coaches he would communicate differently one on one with Monken off the record.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
First of all, I’m sure Monroe Freeling wasn’t the only 2022-2024 recruit that Georgia talked to their parents. I haven’t heard anyone ask him if he has talked to any other prospect but Freeling. For all we know, Georgia recruited over half of the top 50 offensive players in this draft.
Second, what does anyone really think Kirby Smart is going to say about Freeling? “I wouldn’t draft him, he isn’t ready and I don’t know if he ever will be?”. NO! The higher his kids get picked the easier it is to recruit better ones to your school. I don’t care what your perceived relationship is between Kirby and Monken, Kirby is going to try to sell his kids to anyone that will listen.
Look at the film AND look at his career, where he couldn’t break the starting lineup until a player in front of him was injured. That’s where I am coming from. If you take those two things into account, he’s a day two prospect. Taking the combine into account, he rises to a late first early second round prospect.
Kirby and Monken have a personal friendship. Monken was Kirby's offensive coordinator for 2 National Championship teams. What Kirby would Coach speak to most NFL coaches he would communicate differently one on one with Monken off the record.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
I tend to believe that a HC at a major college program would NOT oversell a player unless he believed in that player. I think he’d want to be totally upfront with the NFL teams that he deals with.
Georgia is still going to be able to recruit top-level talent, no matter what happens with Freeling.
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Kirby and Monken have a personal friendship. Monken was Kirby's offensive coordinator for 2 National Championship teams. What Kirby would Coach speak to most NFL coaches he would communicate differently one on one with Monken off the record.
No recruit cares about a former college player's NFL career. What they care about is where a program can get them drafted. The higher a program can get their players drafted, the easier it is to recruit top prospects. Why do you think Georgia gets the top talent? It's because Kirby Smart gets recruits drafted into the NFL regularly. He isn't going to put any kind of report out that one of his players may not be ready to win right now. All it takes is some intern hearing a conversation that leaks it to ESPN and that player drops in the draft. Kiby Smart would suffer for a year or two if something got out. His job is to recruit the best players in the country, make sure his coaches are getting the most out of their ability, then just like the recruiting phase, prop them up on the highest pedestal possible to get them drafted high. If he gets a second round grade guy drafted in the first round, his job is finally finished and he can move on and use that in his recruiting speech.
I'm not talking sabotage, but what could he possibly get out of speaking the truth about a kids talent level? Every player is going to have the polish put on the shine when/if anyone NFL program calls him to ask questions. Monken knows this, and I doubt very much if he is going to rely on Smart's honest assessment to decide whether or not Berry should draft a player and at what point in the draft to take him.
I have to agree with you in terms of college coaches talking their players up. You see it all of the time. The reasons seem quite obvious. First of all what players would want to go to a university where their HC wouldn't try to help them get drafted higher? I mean if the HC isn't going to stand behind you as you enter the NFL who else can they count on their than friends and family who have zero influence in the draft process? Of course their college coach is going to pimp them in the draft process.
It's also good for the universities recruiting to have a record of getting your players drafted higher as you mentioned.
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Yea, I don't agree with pretty much all you stated.
Recruits care about (no particular order) - Who will pay me the most NIL / best packaged NIL - Who has a history of developing their said position - Who gets players drafted at their positions - Some players do care about highest paid in the NFL if it is current. Within a year - McLaurin signed a big extension, Garrett Willson signed a big extension, and now JSN just signed the current highest contract ever. That is an easy added selling point for Cortez Hankton. - Tradition and making the playoffs/championships
Georgia gets talent due to: Tradition, known to develop players, living in a recruiting hot bed, the bagman (now it's NIL).
Kirby could put out a FU to everyone and still would get recruits, lol.
Why is Oregon getting top recruits? Because they pay whatever they want to get them to come. Why is Miami? Same reason. Why is Tennessee? Same reason...hell they offered around the same money OSU did, the reason they lost was buying a house and extras for the Offensive Tackle. The same for Kirby, it's freaking GA and they will pay for recruits.
MIchigan's Underwood was pretty much a given to LSU. Michigan paid him ridiculous money and all of a sudden, the #1 QB recruit is a Michigan player.
Yea, I don't agree with pretty much all you stated.
Recruits care about (no particular order) - Who will pay me the most NIL / best packaged NIL - Who has a history of developing their said position - Who gets players drafted at their positions - Some players do care about highest paid in the NFL if it is current. Within a year - McLaurin signed a big extension, Garrett Willson signed a big extension, and now JSN just signed the current highest contract ever. That is an easy added selling point for Cortez Hankton. - Tradition and making the playoffs/championships
Georgia gets talent due to: Tradition, known to develop players, living in a recruiting hot bed, the bagman (now it's NIL).
Kirby could put out a FU to everyone and still would get recruits, lol.
Why is Oregon getting top recruits? Because they pay whatever they want to get them to come. Why is Miami? Same reason. Why is Tennessee? Same reason...hell they offered around the same money OSU did, the reason they lost was buying a house and extras for the Offensive Tackle. The same for Kirby, it's freaking GA and they will pay for recruits.
MIchigan's Underwood was pretty much a given to LSU. Michigan paid him ridiculous money and all of a sudden, the #1 QB recruit is a Michigan player.
Yeah, I could say we could agree to disagree, but that would be way understated.
You are delusional if you think Kirby could come right out and say something like "Monroe Freeling isn't ready for the NFL and I told him he should have stayed for another year to try be more prepared" and it leaks leading up to the draft. That would plummet his draft stock and recruits would take notice. That shows that he cares more about the Georgia program keeping players longer than the players themselves. I can see where you can twist this to mean, he does care about the players by keeping it real and looking out for them, but the man would be directly wrecking a players chance to be drafted higher and thus lose money in the first 4 to 5 years of their professional career.
Salary slots for 2026 NFL draft picks:
10. $29.6M 15. $22.7M 20. $20M 25. $18.8M 33. $12.9M #20 to second round first pick loses $7M
I just looked it up Monroe Freeling's NIL was $148k, which was one of the highest for offensive tackles. It's a drop in the bucket of what he will be paid at the next level.
THAT ↑↑↑↑ Is way more than what they are going to get from NIL for non-QBs or the top .5% players in college. Their rookie deals are more than double what their NIL package is going to be, but more importantly, the sooner they get to the NFL, the sooner that second contract comes.
It sure as hell makes a difference where they are drafted.
I agree with you that second tier players want to go to a program where they will get development, see the tradition, etc... We aren't talking about those players, we are talking about blue chippers that have no choice but to spend 3 years at a school before hearing their name called on draft day. They are thinking about the draft from the first recruitment visit. If I have a coach at Ohio State that props up all of their players and gets 4 guys drafted in the top 7 picks of the draft, vs a school where a coach just said the statement above and a player projected to go in the top 20 is now drafted in the second round... IT WILL BE reflected in top recruits decisions.
Everyone is now dealing with NIL money, that is definitely going to be factors with all recruits moving forward. That's the world we live in now. But all things being equal, a coach that stands by their players entering their pro career vs a guy that states something negative will lose more recruits than they retain.
If Monroe Freeling wannabes see him fall in the draft because of something Kirby Smart said, Smart would lose a lot of the players he was hoping to get... Which is why Kirby is Smart enough to not say any such thing. He will be saying what everyone expects him to say which is "You are getting a kid that has all the talent to be a 10-15 year starter in the NFL and he is coming from the best coaches in college football prepared to play from day 1" -Even to his supposed good buddy Monken.
I never argued it mattered where they were drafted.
Regarding recruits, how many times have you heard recruits dropping b/c of their coaches' comments?
You are a GM, why the heck would you call a team's head coach to get their viewpoint if all they are going to do is bs you? You are really telling me that a coach is going to put his reputation on the line to bs a NFL GM or HC of his player? You can be critical of a player and still be praising them. Monroe has a ton of talent. He's excellent in: ____. However, he will need some development. You can also do all of this while having a private conversation without the ball boy hanging around, lol.
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We aren't talking about those players, we are talking about blue chippers that have no choice but to spend 3 years at a school before hearing their name called on draft day. They are thinking about the draft from the first recruitment visit.
I 100% agree with you.
BTW
There will be some change between sites (247 sports I'm using)
2026 Top recruits and their commitments
#1 U of Houston #2 Vanderbilt #3 Tennessee #4 LSU #5 USC #6 U of Miami #7 USC #8 LSU #9 Notre Dame #10 Maryland #11 Michigan #12 Tennessee #13 Texas #14 Bama #15 South Carolina #16 Texas A&M #17 Texas Tech #18 Bama #19 Nebraska #20 Bama
Those Senior High Schoolers are really thinking about the draft.
Just talking about Ohio State - last cycle there were at a few blue chippers that loved OSU either publicly verbal or silent and ended up picking other schools. The reason....money. Your point about Monroe isn't a point regarding high school Seniors. Also, if they are a highly regarded OL, their price tag hovers closer to 1M. Generally HS Seniors just want that bag. They don't get developed in a year or two? Portal
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Everyone is now dealing with NIL money, that is definitely going to be factors with all recruits moving forward. That's the world we live in now. But all things being equal, a coach that stands by their players entering their pro career vs a guy that states something negative will lose more recruits than they retain
Please name me all these coaches going on record that their player sucks, lol.
As of January 2026, 29 Ohio State football players entered the transfer portal following a period of significant roster turnover. Ryan Day is one of the best coaches in college football. You are going to have players enter the portal either b/c of playing time or wanting more NIL. College football has become a business. Your top players want money.
Look at all of the top draft picks drafted out of OSU. They are after money. NFL money.
I think the facts Irish laid out override your feelings.
Your point was all about college money. OL players aren't making big college money. But they make big NFL money if they're drafted high enough. By far the players in college that make the most money are high ranked skill position players. That's not a large group of players.
This is an OL thread. The conversation was about highly ranked players in the draft at the OT position. They don't get a lot of money in college. They're thinking about the future in terms of the NFL.
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I won't talk much more about this however you all are missing some key points here.
One - a HS senior and a JR/SR going into the draft are two different things. Which most of my previous points were about HS seniors
Two - this whole thing about Kirby or any other College coach possibly degrading their player is way overblown.
Why? Like I said name me these instances where the HC talks bad about their player. Most...not all instances a player drops in the draft is b/c of concern over an injury, attitude, or they have some negative background (example: smoking some weed through a gas mask, crazy driving and killing someone, etc)
Also....scouts are evaluating these players through video tape, attending games throughout the season, doing background checks , they are calling their HS coaches, talking to their positional coaches. They are attending practices, they are talking to random staff memebers/people at practices. The Staff (in general) are attending the NFL combine, having personal interviews with the player. What exactly is Kirby Smart going to say that is so different than all the information these scouts and the GMs are going to hear?
Kirby - he's terrible at run/pass blocking. OK, the scouts can verify the positives and negatives from game film and it's the scouts/FO staff to see if they can work with their skills. Kirby - he's uncoachable. Ok. Well the staff/scouts should have talked to many of different sources. It's up to them to make a decision from lots of different sources. This could be a valid point, however is it the same as the OL coaches (and others) view of the player? It would be easy to see the contradiction.
I am not using feelings, my facts before were regarding HS seniors. Which that information is true. Blue Chippers expect to be drafted in 3 or 4 years no matter what college they choose. A high percentage of the blue chippers will go to any college that will be the highest bidder. Like I said, David Sanders JR went to TN b/c they gave him a huge bag and a house for his family. The OT that went to Colorado (the year before), he picked them over Ohio State b/c of a huge bag. The blue chippers that went to Oregon that were committed to OSU. They decommitted b/c Nike gave them a big bag and their own shoes. This scenario is different than a JR Monroe Freeling and which round he gets picked.
I have heard multiple podcasters call Blake Miller a true left tackle. I haven't seen much Clemson football, but I thought he played right tackle.
He did play right tackle.. his entire career, that’s why we can’t listen to podcasters. They have a deadline to get content for their shows. They hear it from “a source”, which is usually another podcaster, because they just regurgitate each other for content.
Blake Miller will be that middle of the pack RT that had a 12 year career starting for 5 different teams. Hes solid, but they are going to say the team signing him overpaid him ever time.
So then it would be your contention that a high school player whose intent is to be an NFL player would choose to go to the University of Montana Western where they will never be televised and NFL scouts would never recruit if they offered him 100k more than OSU?
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Just one more thing to consider. It's not simply about what the schools pay. There are opportunities for players that go to schools like OSU those same players would never get if they chose smaller, lesser known schools such as........
Key Players and Endorsement Deals (2024-2026)
Jeremiah Smith (WR): Signed with Adidas, Battle (accessories), and has deals with Nintendo and Epic Games.
Caleb Downs (S): Endorsement deal with Rhoback clothing.
TreVeyon Henderson (RB): Partnered with FTX.
Will Howard (QB): Deals with Grippo's Chips.
Arvell Reese (LB): Partnered with Adidas Football.
Carnell Tate (WR): Partnered with Adidas Football.
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Joe was one of the best LT's I've ever seen play. But in regards to scouting and predicting OT's translating to the NFL I haven't seen anywhere he's qualified to do that.
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6. Cleveland Browns: Carnell Tate, WR, Ohio State Cleveland needs help everywhere on offense, so it’s hard to pass on the best receiver in the class, according to the latest consensus rankings. The Chicago native and Buckeyes star led the Big Ten with nine catches over 40 yards. He finished 2025 with 875 yards and nine touchdowns alongside 2027 first-rounder-to-be Jeremiah Smith, despite missing multiple games during the regular season. Tate tracks the ball well and has underrated speed, which should make him a strong playmaker for new Browns head coach Todd Monken. — Cameron Teague Robinson
24. Cleveland Browns (from Jacksonville): Kadyn Proctor, T, Alabama After passing on an offensive tackle with their first pick, the Browns had to go for it here. Proctor might not be the sure thing that Fano or Mauigoa are, but his athleticism is obvious. He doesn’t move like he is 360 pounds but when you see how he carries that weight on his 6-7 frame, you understand why he’s garnered a lot of interest from scouts. His technique will need some fine tuning, but he’s a good pass blocker with a high ceiling. —
This is honestly the way I am leaning. There are 3 or 4 genuine difference makers at WR a position of desperate need. Jordyn Tyson is another I like. I'd be happy to take a number of OL guys at 24 and in the 2nd round.
I'd also be uber happy to draft down to 13-18 range and let things play out and pick up an extra 1st next year. We'll know so much more about the offense next year and having two 1st next year would be a huge advantage in (hopefully) putting final pieces together.
I would be happy with this draft. The only worry I have with Proctor is wear and tear on a man that size in the NFL. I know he moves better than 360# should, but for how long? I think the Browns may take Dawand Jones into account here and pass on Proctor.
Tate and Procter would be a great first round!
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6. Cleveland Browns: Carnell Tate, WR, Ohio State Cleveland needs help everywhere on offense, so it’s hard to pass on the best receiver in the class, according to the latest consensus rankings. The Chicago native and Buckeyes star led the Big Ten with nine catches over 40 yards. He finished 2025 with 875 yards and nine touchdowns alongside 2027 first-rounder-to-be Jeremiah Smith, despite missing multiple games during the regular season. Tate tracks the ball well and has underrated speed, which should make him a strong playmaker for new Browns head coach Todd Monken. — Cameron Teague Robinson
24. Cleveland Browns (from Jacksonville): Kadyn Proctor, T, Alabama After passing on an offensive tackle with their first pick, the Browns had to go for it here. Proctor might not be the sure thing that Fano or Mauigoa are, but his athleticism is obvious. He doesn’t move like he is 360 pounds but when you see how he carries that weight on his 6-7 frame, you understand why he’s garnered a lot of interest from scouts. His technique will need some fine tuning, but he’s a good pass blocker with a high ceiling. —
This is honestly the way I am leaning. There are 3 or 4 genuine difference makers at WR a position of desperate need. Jordyn Tyson is another I like. I'd be happy to take a number of OL guys at 24 and in the 2nd round.
I'd also be uber happy to draft down to 13-18 range and let things play out and pick up an extra 1st next year. We'll know so much more about the offense next year and having two 1st next year would be a huge advantage in (hopefully) putting final pieces together.
I would be happy with this draft. The only worry I have with Proctor is wear and tear on a man that size in the NFL. I know he moves better than 360# should, but for how long? I think the Browns may take Dawand Jones into account here and pass on Proctor.
Tate and Procter would be a great first round!
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Joe was one of the best LT's I've ever seen play. But in regards to scouting and predicting OT's translating to the NFL I haven't seen anywhere he's qualified to do that.
I mean, I have to believe an 8 time All Pro at his position has more insight into what it takes to make it in this league than anyone outside of tenured offensive line coaches. I think Warhop is more than capable of figuring it out without Joe’s help, but if they are friends, getting his second opinion sure as hell couldn’t hurt.
I know he’s way more qualified than myself and every other draftnik out there that thinks they know what they are talking about. If he would speak, I would listen.
Joe was one of the best LT's I've ever seen play. But in regards to scouting and predicting OT's translating to the NFL I haven't seen anywhere he's qualified to do that.
I mean, I have to believe an 8 time All Pro at his position has more insight into what it takes to make it in this league than anyone outside of tenured offensive line coaches. I think Warhop is more than capable of figuring it out without Joe’s help, but if they are friends, getting his second opinion sure as hell couldn’t hurt.
I know he’s way more qualified than myself and every other draftnik out there that thinks they know what they are talking about. If he would speak, I would listen.
Agreed, JT has a little knowledge of the position! I would take his opinion.
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I know he’s way more qualified than myself and every other draftnik out there that thinks they know what they are talking about. If he would speak, I would listen.
That I certainly agree with. However at the same time, there are scouting departments and evaluation processes that are strictly paid for and developed which is their entire career to be experts in. It's their entire profession and expertise.
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't make great LT's either.
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I would just like to clarify my post somewhat. I'm not saying Joe Thomas opinion should just be ignored. I'm just saying that in the grand scheme of things the weight of those who have spent years and in some cases decades doing it as their profession should carry more influence.
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I would just like to clarify my post somewhat. I'm not saying Joe Thomas opinion should just be ignored. I'm just saying that in the grand scheme of things the weight of those who have spent years and in some cases decades doing it as their profession should carry more influence.
We will just agree to disagree on this one. I agree 100% that the scouting departments are usually top notch and they are trained to look for extra little things that make for a lower probability of failure. But I don't agree that any scout that hasn't played multiple years of D1 level would have more knowledge on what it takes as an offensive lineman to make an impact in the NFL. There are only a couple of handfuls of players that have done at a level beyond 99% of their peers and Joe Thomas is one of them.
If we were talking about Jed Wills, I would be in full agreement. It's about a specific person and in this case Joe probably has more insight than 50% of the offensive line coaches in the league. I don't think Warhop falls in that side of the 50/50, but his insight would be invaluable. I know he studies game film, or at least he did when he was starting his online/onscreen aspirations. He used to have some really good breakdowns of players coming out in the draft, but I haven't seen any the last couple of years. I'm not sure if that was something that has died down, or maybe he is focused more on his cattle ranch? When he sits down and studies though, the man can point out things that I still can't see while he's explaining them.
Yet all 32 NFL teams spend millions of dollars every year on scouting departments and analytics to make these decisions. It seems they have chosen to disagree with you. For some reason I think I'll side with 32 NFL FO's. You can agree to disagree all you wish but if this were true NFL teams would be making their draft picks based on nothing but former star players at each position. That's not how any of this works.
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Yet all 32 NFL teams spend millions of dollars every year on scouting departments and analytics to make these decisions. It seems they have chosen to disagree with you. For some reason I think I'll side with 32 NFL FO's. You can agree to disagree all you wish but if this were true NFL teams would be making their draft picks based on nothing but former star players at each position. That's not how any of this works.
You are absolutely right that that's not how it work However, with as many draft mistakes as are made, maybe it wold be a better, more reliable system
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Yet all 32 NFL teams spend millions of dollars every year on scouting departments and analytics to make these decisions. It seems they have chosen to disagree with you. For some reason I think I'll side with 32 NFL FO's. You can agree to disagree all you wish but if this were true NFL teams would be making their draft picks based on nothing but former star players at each position. That's not how any of this works.
How many of those teams have an 8 time ALL PRO Player to talk with on a SPECIFIC position. You are acting like we are talking about replacing the scouting department with Joe Thomas... stop...
All 32 teams MIGHT have one or two players that are still close to the club like Joe is. I don't think it is out of the realm to ask their opinions when they are around the building on THEIR specific expertise.
When Jim Brown was still around, he was part of the discussions. Joe Thomas is a legend at left tackle, maybe the best to ever play.
You are making sweeping statements like "You can agree to disagree all you wish but if this were true NFL teams would be making their draft picks based on nothing but former star players at each position." All that was ever stated was, Warhop is fully capable of figuring out the position in the draft, but it would be great insight to include Joe Thomas. Somehow, you take it from that level to we want teams to replace scouting departments with former players.
It's ok for someone to disagree with you, you seem to take it to another level to discredit someone else' opinion. Making things up based on a simple idea. It's the main reason we seem to butt heads in here.
Yet all 32 NFL teams spend millions of dollars every year on scouting departments and analytics to make these decisions. It seems they have chosen to disagree with you. For some reason I think I'll side with 32 NFL FO's. You can agree to disagree all you wish but if this were true NFL teams would be making their draft picks based on nothing but former star players at each position. That's not how any of this works.
How many of those teams have an 8 time ALL PRO Player to talk with on a SPECIFIC position. You are acting like we are talking about replacing the scouting department with Joe Thomas... stop...
All 32 teams MIGHT have one or two players that are still close to the club like Joe is. I don't think it is out of the realm to ask their opinions when they are around the building on THEIR specific expertise.
When Jim Brown was still around, he was part of the discussions. Joe Thomas is a legend at left tackle, maybe the best to ever play.
You are making sweeping statements like "You can agree to disagree all you wish but if this were true NFL teams would be making their draft picks based on nothing but former star players at each position." All that was ever stated was, Warhop is fully capable of figuring out the position in the draft, but it would be great insight to include Joe Thomas. Somehow, you take it from that level to we want teams to replace scouting departments with former players.
It's ok for someone to disagree with you, you seem to take it to another level to discredit someone else' opinion. Making things up based on a simple idea. It's the main reason we seem to butt heads in here.
Speaking of just stop.
Why would NFL teams be limited to only former players who played for them? They could pay any player to ever have played the game to do what you're suggesting. Try reading this again....
"NFL teams would be making their draft picks based on nothing but former star players at each position."
Context is important.
Dude, you're arguing against the way all 32 NFL teams conduct their draft. If you would stop to think about it for a minute, it's not me you're trying to argue with. You're arguing with the entire NFL's methods of draft evaluation. I just feel it's pretty obvious to conclude that they know more than you do.
I stated that having Joe as another voice in the room would be fine but that his opinion should not even be close to being one of the top voices in the room.
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