Interesting I posted this video because it is about how to evaluate a quarterback.
The people in the video are quarterbacks who have all the credentials for playing quarterback.
The Browns and we as fans do not yet know what we have in Shedeur. The draft will come in April and the Browns may be looking to draft a quarterback.
Yet not a single comment?
We all know rookie quarterbacks have a learning curve. During that time mistakes are made and should be followed by learning from those mistakes.
After this year Shedeur will have basically a half a season under his belt. So, we can see if he is learning.
In reviewing the video 10 traits are established as the criterion for evaluating quarterbacks. How does Shedeur measure up?
What about the draft prospects?
Passion, Toughness, Temperament, Leadership, Football Intelligence, Football Instincts, Accuracy, Arm Talent, Playmaking, Physical Tools.
What have I seen so far from Shedeur?
Passion - Check. He seems to have that. Toughness - Check. He is not afraid to take the hit. Temperament - Check. Shedeur seems to be a guy who lives in the moment. He trusts himself. Leadership - ? I cannot say yet. Football Intelligence - Not sure yet. Football Instincts - Sometimes yes, Sometimes No. Accuracy - Check. He is an accurate passer. He did in college and he has shown that so far even though the numbers are not great. Arm Talent - He has good enough arm talent but not exceptional. Playmaking - He has shown he can make big plays and use his legs to make key yards. Physical Tools - He does not have elite physical tools. But of the traits that is the least important but nice to have.
Throughout the history of the NFL it has been proven there is no one size fits all recipe for drafting or evaluating a successful QB. I don't see this as being any different.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
IMO Shedeur has a lot more learning to do but he is capable and smart enough to learn what he has to. I agree with Bone on the traits he has it’s just a matter of learning by gaining experience. He needs to put the reps in. I’m pulling for him!
During the draft process I went back and forth with Vers. He wanted to draft Josh Rosen. I wanted Darnold. We ended up with Baker. I was ok with Baker. But I felt if we were willing to take a swing at potential Josh Allen had the biggest upside. He also was high risk because he was not accurate and took too many chances.
I feel vindicated even though it has taken time. Darnold has developed. He played really well for the Vikings. Got rewarded with a contract and a huge opportunity with Seattle. He is playing really well and has taken his team to the playoffs.
It can take time. Trevor seems to have figured things out.
If we don’t take a QB high I would consider taking a flyer on Drew Allar later in the draft. He looks like a younger version of Josh Allen. We can have him as our #3 and give him some time to develop.
If we don’t take a QB high I would consider taking a flyer on Drew Allar later in the draft. He looks like a younger version of Josh Allen. We can have him as our #3 and give him some time to develop.
I think if Berry and Stefanski is retained that is a very possible outcome. They were high on Allar last year. If Berry and Stefanski re retained I think the QB room will look something like Sanders, Watson, and maybe a Drew Allar. If Stefanski and Berry are fired I think the entire QB room will be changed. I think a new regime will take the salary cap hit and release Watson like Denver did with Russel Wilson. They will trade Sanders and cut Gabriel. Sanders and Watson will only be with the Browns if Stefanski and Berry are here. Otherwise, a new regime means new QB room.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
This is what my comment pertained to. I was simply answering why I as an individual did not consider this a topic for discussion. There is certainly information contained in the video. The question then becomes do you think that information is some guide to a foolproof plan in drafting a QB. As for myself I don't think it is so that is my answer as to why I wasn't going into enter to the debate about it. That's all.
I don't blame those who wish to do otherwise.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I agree. At this time if I were making the decision I would go with Shedeur for next year trade down in the draft for a #1 in “27 and draft for the O-line, get a WR or2 and then go BPA.
I would definately roll with Shedeur at this point.
He has some of those higher prioorities. There are still alot of unknowns. Partly because of the team: OL and WR talent.... partly because of how little we have seen him.
As well as thinking of Sanders while watching (geat vid by the way - thank you).... I also was struck by how Baker hit on some of those high priorities too. When they talked about Passion. Toughness, Leadership (being authentic - leading by example) made me think of BM. IQ (#4 on the list) - that is questionable for Baker. I'm not certain how fast he processes - but then as Warner said: Make it simple. What is the ILB doing - read and react. What is the safety doing - read and react.... BM did okay with "half the field". I hope Sanders processes faster and ends up showing more smarts.
At the end of the day I don't watch enough college game to know what the QB class offers. I do know that SS has shown enough to let me want to address the other more glaring needs and give the guy a chance.
Again - thanks for the vid.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Maybe I am dead wrong but I am "trending" (a word I do not use) toward the Browns rolling with Shedeur.
I think there are many Browns' fans (and not just on this site if you listen to sports talk radio here in town) who feel the same way. That term feels a bit too tentative for me, and if I am the FO, I don't move forward with him if I am wavering or unsure about him or "leaning" in one direction. If I am the FO, the question becomes, do I think sticking with Shedeur is the right thing for the team even if I can get one of Mendoza or Moore (or insert some other QB they like). If so, I think that is a very risky play even if you think building around a QB is important.
A team lives and dies by the QB. End of story. It's not a lack of culture as has been talked about lately. It's not about going/not going for it on 4th down. It's not about having one of the best defenses, as evidence this year. It's the QB and only the QB.
To me, "trending" shouldn't cut it if the FO feels the same. Get the guy you believe can be the franchise, and if you are unsure about what you have, you've already addressed the direction you need to go in.
Now, perhaps the FO is confident in Sanders's future. If that is the case, that is a very different story, but I don't think they do.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Maybe I am dead wrong but I am "trending" (a word I do not use) toward the Browns rolling with Shedeur.
I think there are many Browns' fans (and not just on this site if you listen to sports talk radio here in town) who feel the same way. That term feels a bit too tentative for me, and if I am the FO, I don't move forward with him if I am wavering or unsure about him or "leaning" in one direction. If I am the FO, the question becomes, do I think sticking with Shedeur is the right thing for the team even if I can get one of Mendoza or Moore (or insert some other QB they like). If so, I think that is a very risky play even if you think building around a QB is important.
A team lives and dies by the QB. End of story. It's not a lack of culture as has been talked about lately. It's not about going/not going for it on 4th down. It's not about having one of the best defenses, as evidence this year. It's the QB and only the QB.
To me, "trending" shouldn't cut it if the FO feels the same. Get the guy you believe can be the franchise, and if you are unsure about what you have, you've already addressed the direction you need to go in.
Now, perhaps the FO is confident in Sanders's future. If that is the case, that is a very different story, but I don't think they do.
I think before the FO will move forward on Sanders if they like Mendoza or Moore they will inquire about what a trade would look like for either player. If then cost is higher than they are willing to pay, then Sanders it is. Just like last year. According to reports they inquired about moving up to take Ward and the Titans said No they are not interested in trading. The draft is about what I have vs what I can get when I am picking. If/when they offer a trade to the top pick or 2nd pick and they are told no deal then is Sanders a better option than the 3rd QB? They actually may have this option twice actually with both 1st round selections.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
I think before the FO will move forward on Sanders if they like Mendoza or Moore they will inquire about what a trade would look like for either player.
I would assume this to be the case as well. And the Giants currently sitting at the #2 spot could be where a team moves up since they seemingly have their QB (for the moment) in Dart. NYJ are most likely taking one at #3, so it is leap-frogging them or out-bidding them if only for the Jets to move up one spot. You'd think Titans at #4 might be the next spot to trade up, but you never know.....knew coach and maybe a new GM could change that.
I suppose the same situation for the Titans could be for the Giants, but I think they stick with Dart.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I’m sure Vegas will take Mendoza and the Giants would probably take him too. If Moore goes back to school like it’s been reported then there really isn’t any other QB worth a top 5 pick IMO. Things could change but right now that’s the way it looks.
More crucially, both the Giants and Titans put significant draft ammo towards the QB position, and neither pick has played their way out of the job.
I believe either loss still has us picking 5th, and a win will just put us a couple spots lower. Either way, I hope we don't end up trying to move up from our first pick.
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