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Let's take a logical look at your theory.

In 2024 OSU had a total of four players drafted into the NFL. Marvin Harrison Jr., Mike Hall, Cade Stover, and Tommy Eichenberg.

In 2015 after winning the national championship they had a total of 14 players drafted into the NFL. Six of those players drafted in rounds 4-6. Not top tier draft picks.

The Ohio State football roster is capped at 105 players for the 2025 season, a new NCAA rule change allowing more scholarship players (up to 85) and the rest walk ons. And last year that number was 120 players.

Out of all those players only 14 were drafted. The math alone says that OSU isn't beating any NFL team.

Only the best college players get drafted into the NFL. They are accumulated over several years to form an NFL rosters. College teams look great against each other but you are taking this a bridge too far.

This becomes a conversation every year. And you're correct. The worst NFL team would beat the best college team like a college team would beat a JV highschool team. It's not close. Of all the leaps, the leap from college to pro is easily the biggest. Almost everyone on the team was an absolute star of their college and high school teams. Yes, some people blossom later or are in bad situations and thus don't get scouted or drafted and they walk on etc etc. But most of them, if they were held a year or two behind or in a different situation, would have been the star of the team.

It's kinda reminds me of the men's vs women's tennis argument from years ago. There used to be a lot chatter about how the best women could stack up to men. I mean, the women got a LOT stronger in the 90's and 00's and eyeball test says it's possible, right? That was until the Williams sisters, who were ranked as the top women, said they could beat any man ranked lower than 200. They played the 203rd ranked man and he beat them in succession 6-1, 6-2. And it wasn't even as close as that would make it seem. Point being.. it looks like a top tier college team could challenge an NFL team. Um, actually no.

Wow. Thirty years. And still nowhere near a championship. Sad.

I was there, with my wife, and cousin, and his friend.

Got to a season ticket seats and the guy beside me had a saw blade. He cut his seat out, then asked me if I wanted it to cut my seats out. I said no, but ended up taking all 4 of the seats at the end of the game.

Still have MY season ticket seat hanging in my office.

I wish Art was still alive. That way I could wish him dead one more time. Ahhh, the memories. Still not in Canton, !!!

Don’t think I’ve forgotten Tagliabu, either.

A life of crime!

What IS that, fate?

Urinal screen. 🤣

Hahaha I see it!

I thought the business idea was to win. I see other team do it and they actually look having some fun….

I’ve always believed that drafting to protect the qb was the idea. But yeah winning is #1.

I wonder what that "cap insurance" will ultimately amount to....

That's why this FO set it up so we have 2 1st round picks.

Isn't the steeler Back up Mason Rudolph?

he's not Chump change... They can win with him.... No worries

He’s a career backup. If they have to settle for Mason I’ll do cartwheels across my living room floor

The Steelers will be playing their starters on Sunday, even if the Ravens lose. They would still have a shot at overtaking the Jags. They won’t be resting anyone , not early.

A couple of random posts.

I don't think either team moves on from their HC, but here you go.

I think this whole thing is dumb.

Unless you have a sure-fire upgrade in mind for HC and a plan to keep the defensive side of the ball in place, the high likelihood is that a coaching change would end up being a regression.


People who want the coach fired without any idea of how we're going to improve there is simply punching your ticket to continue riding the same carousel we're on.

Oober I concur whole heartily. A coaching change now will set us back. The new coach will want his players and make scheme changes. We just had a great draft and made a good trade and signed some decent players. We look like we're moving forward so stay the course and add some good draft picks and some solid FAs. I would give AB and KS another year.

A coaching change would be utter foolishness.

He isn't perfect by any means, but he's a 2-time Coach of the Year winner having a down year because we have no QB, no OLine, and no WRs and literally 20+% of our roster is rookies and it goes to ~30% when you include the sophomores. What the heck do people expect from him??

10 more commandments.

Most likely. There's always a chance that we do land the next big thing. I get what people are saying when they explain why they want Stefanski fired. I just don't think he's so bad that literally anyone out there would be a likely upgrade (it would end up like when we fired Chud and then scrambled practically the whole damn off-season only to end up with Pettine... that screams "no plan").

We won 3 games last year and 4 this year........ how much "further set back" can we go?

There was no attempt to bring in a legit starting quarterback to win. They did nothing to reinforce the offensive line.

The Browns clearly indicated at the beginning of the season that they were retooling and building through the draft.

Firing Stefanski meant no real plan was ever in place.

Detroit Lions Lose Center Poached By Browns
Cleveland Browns poach center off Lions' practice squad.
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The Detroit Lions turned to Kingsley Eguakun to start each of the past two games at center. In their regular season finale, they won't have that option.

Eguakun, who had played each of the last two games as a practice squad elevation, was signed Wednesday by the Cleveland Browns. NFL teams are allowed to sign players off of other clubs' practice squads to their active roster, provided they don't play that team within six days.
The Lions initially signed Eguakun as an undrafted free agent following the 2024 NFL draft out of Florida. He remained with the practice squad for the duration of last season, before making the team out of training camp early this year.

Eguakun was waived along with defensive tackle Chris Smith in October to make room for defensive replacements amidst injuries on that side of the ball. However, he would return to the organization promptly on the practice squad.

Cleveland lost starting center Ethan Pocic earlier in the month, as he was placed on injured reserve with a torn Achilles. Luke Wypler has started the last three games.

With injuries on the interior of the offensive line, Eguakun was a logical option to get an opportunity late in the year. Starting center Graham Glasgow was ruled out for the team's Week 15 game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, so Eguakun was elevated and got the start at center.


In his first career start, Eguakun recorded a 59.9 overall offensive grade from Pro Football Focus. He earned a 74.7 mark as a pass-blocker, and a 59.2 mark as a run-blocker. Lions coach Dan Campbell was encouraged by what he saw from the 2024 undrafted free agent.

“I thought it was really encouraging, I really did," Campbell said on Dec. 22, leading up to the Vikings game. "For his first game to go out there, I thought he competed, I thought he fought, I thought he played fast. It was very encouraging.”

Glasgow was not listed with an injury designation ahead of the Vikings game, but Eguakun had done enough to earn another opportunity as a starter. However, it was a less efficient showing against a stout Vikings defense led by prominent coordinator Brian Flores.

Early in the game, a botched snap exchange from Eguakun to quarterback Jared Goff led to a fumble. The Florida product earned a dismal 39.5 overall offensive PFF grade, with a 42.8 grade as a pass-blocker and a 38.9 grade as a run-blocker.

The Lions have had uncertainty at the center position since the offseason, when longtime mainstay Frank Ragnow announced his retirement. Detroit utilized both Glasgow and 2025 second-round pick Tate Ratledge at the pivot position in training camp before ultimately deciding on Glasgow to start.

Detroit thought it was getting a boost late in November, when Ragnow announced his desire to exit retirement and return. However, he failed his physical with a Grade 3 hamstring strain and ultimately was unable to return to action.

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We aren’t firing the coach or gm.
We will roll with SS as our starter QB, we’ll be drafting OL and WR early, if we stand pat.

Get used to it and happy new year!!

I agree.

Unless we keep Schwartz as head coach, the D will change.

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