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And no reaction?

Every credible person I have heard who has viewed the video multiple times have stated that Trump has lied about the officer being in danger and the shooting being self defense. I won't watch the video so I will have to rely on others - I never watch any of those types of video as I find it too disturbing.

Agent calmly walked away - now claims to have gone for medical treatment, another obvious lie or an unnecessary visit done as a cover story.

What will we hear from the the MAGA fanboys? Any outrage? Any concerns? Or will it be the old "if she had done as she was instructed" (By masked men who carry no identification) ...

Which federal agency has the largest budget for 2026 again? Think there is an agenda there? Pfft. It's sickening.

The righteous does not rejoice at the death of the wicked. I feel sad for her family. She should have obeyed the officer's command and not been taking part in terrorist activities. She clearly drove the vehicle while 1 ICE agent had his hands on the door knob and another was in front of the vehicle. She could have easily hurt or killed either of both. Thankfully that never happened.

What terrorist activity was she taking part in?

She was blocking ICE from doing their jobs. Protecting American citizens by getting illegals out of our country.

Russian Bots gonna do their Russian Bot thing ....

The Founding Fathers would line up and one-by-one slap you across the face if they could.

No, they would not. These illegals are foreign invaders. They would see the socialists trying to take over the democratic republic they set up and roll over in their graves. Tell me this. Do Republicans or Democrats respect the American Flag? I see these protesters waving Ukraine, Mexica, Iran, Venezuelan flags but not American. Do they like the pledge of Elegance? The star-spangled banner? etc... These are fundamental principles. Seems some of the country has lost their way and are trying to bring everyone else down with them.

They shouldn't have been throwing rocks, or preventing us from legally collecting taxes.

You get it, but you have shown the capacity for putting two ideas together without having it spoon-fed via network television.

You are a prime example of why Republicans have a bad name. Far right wing extremists like yourself give normal Republicans a bad name and those on the left use your kind as an example to claim every Republican is like you.

Luckily I know many Republicans who are nothing like you. They think for themselves and aren't led around by the nose using every talking point the trump administration spews out of their pie holes.

The punishment for not complying with the police or ICE isn't a death sentence. Only in your twisted brain does that make sense.

The founding fathers set up a government that had three equal branches of government to keep things in check. Nobody is keeping trump in check and he rules by an executive order pen. Much like the king our forefathers fought against to gain their freedom. They would be appalled seeing how things are being run in this country now.

I'm not quite sure how much lower your level of disgust can reach.

It is when you try to run ICE over with a vehicle. I'm sad that someone had to die for everyone to understand that, but maybe that saves lives now that a little common sense has been established. That same officer was dragged by a vehicle in that god-forsaken city a couple months ago. Glad he's okay.

I watched the video she attempted to kill ICE agents with her car. She refused an officer's command, and she was a domestic terrorist actively working her craft. I feel terrible for her family, but the officers did what is right. She was the cause of he own death.

Lol. Except that's not what happened

I watched the video and yes that is exactly what happened.

God forsaken city-- how many citizens from that city do you know? Ya think you have right to judge whole city? Citizens, we are in DEEP TROUBLE when it is OK for a cop to shoot a citzen in the head for moving her car agressively. I watch the video, yes, she didn't comply but as Pitdawg stated- she deserved DEATH. Hell no. Americans can wave any flag they want- lets shoot someone waving a Confederate flag-- come on folks- the woman should not have been shot and the cop should be fired for using excessive force at a minimum.

IF he acted the way he was trained- we have bigger problems than I first thought- he has GOT TO BE THE EXECEPTION- he overreacted.

Did you finally watch the video? She drove right at the officer in front of the vehicle.

There is no officer in front of the vehicle - he is on the side. If he was in front of the car she still would have hit him, because the car keeps going forward.

Hope I don't run into you at a tailgate - because 1000x cars drive closer to you than that car drove near that officer -- do you open fire on them all?

Here is the FBI Rules on Firing with Regards to vehicles:

[img]http://imgur.com/a/7nU8grD[/img]

Note:

1.) "firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: ..... (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle."

Since he was already to the side - and she was turning away, and she was moving about 2 MPH.... there is no way he couldn't have objectively moved out of the way (since he was already out of the way).

He didn't watch the video, he said he won't. Yet he starts a thread saying ICE murdered someone. That's how far he's drifted down the rabbit hole.

BS meter off the chart.

Want to explain how the fatal shot went right through the windshield if he was off to the side? Magic bullet??

Must be nice to pass judgement from the sideline with a cell video, rather than being the one in front of a vehicle that first backs up and then accelerates directly at you.


Alas, most here will see what they want to see and believe what they want to believe. Nobody cares that accidents with LEOs hit by vehicles are off the charts, or the fact that this officer was recently dragged from one, or the fact that leftist rhetoric encourages this behavior. Or the fact that this lady was the "ringleader" blocking traffic and impeding traffic all day after traveling from states away to be a nuisance.

And no, I'm not condoning killing people and think this is terribly tragic. I am a proponent of LEOs protecting themselves by all means necessary when their lives are put in danger by angry mobs.

I'm not trying to say that he may not had been in fear for his life. In fact I haven't stated anything about that. But what I will state is one thing was quite obvious. She had her vehicle streered far to the right making every attempt NOT to hit any ICE officer. In no way was she "trying to run over ICE with a vehicle". That's absurd.

This isn't the first shooting by ICE. And in Chicago it was determined by a court ICE was lying about what happened..................

Judge dismisses charges against 2 people accused of ramming vehicle of federal agents conducting Chicago immigration sweeps

https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-drops-charges-2-people-accused-ramming-vehicles/story?id=127714651

The same "domestic terrorist" claim was made is this case. They claimed they were "ambushed". What we need to do is get past the rhetoric and take a hard look at each case.

Now this certainly needs a thorough investigation. And as I said it may be determined that the ICE officer feared for his life. But some of the crazy allegations being leveled like this lady was a domestic terrorist or that she was puposefuly trying to run over an ICE officer are unfounded and the video itself shows she was attempting to get away without running over anyone.

That's an exit hole - he fired in through the open driver's side window, as it shows on the video.

Watch it again. There is an officer in front of the driver's side of the vehicle. I didn't see him either when I first saw the video. I don't carry at tailgates.

And she turned hard to the right making every attempt to avoid him. She didn't drive "right at him".

Here is the image of each shot from the Washington Post, which concludes the officer is not in front of the vehicle for any of the three shots.

ICE agent was not in the vehicle’s path when he fired at driver, video shows

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2026/01/08/video-ice-shooting-minneapolis/

He ended up in the hospital. Try again!!!

With what? A sore ass from a bunch of other fascist patting him on the back?

The officer that did the shooting is not seen in those photos. He is in front of the car. The officer seen was holding onto the handle but there is another officer in front of the vehicle and that is who made the shot.

She hit him with her car. Watch the video!!!

Yes he is - there are two officers next to the side of the car, the one further towards the front fires the three shots - you can literally see the smoke leaving from his gun, while he is holding it.

But no - I'm sure the Washington Post is just totally lying here -- on the easiest thing to get sued for ever.

I'm quoting you because (IMO) this is the most honest AND accurate post so far.

My eye was on the officer reaching into the car right at the driver window so I also missed the second officer that steps in front of the car a pretty much the worst timing. He is the one that shoots (unless who did what isn't registering for me again).

I feel it's worth pointing out that it looks like at the time the gun goes off the front of the car (that he stepped in front of) is actually past him and turning the other way. I'll stop there because I was never a fan of pretending these situations are like in movies and the officers are all like 007 in terms of reactions/aim/etc except to point out that, in general, the conduct of these officers (who are given pretty broad authority) is more along the lines of jackbooted thugs vs enforcement officers. ICE officially being a law enforcement entity is going to continue being more of a joke the longer their operations resemble hit squads.

He ended up in the hospital. Try again!!!.....................

Can you now please explain what that has to do with her having the vehicle turned hard to the right attempting not to hit him? I didn't think so. It hit him with the side of the vehicle, not with the front of the vehicle as she was turning away from him. You do understand what the word attempt means don't you?

He didn't end up in the hospital. He went to the hospital to get checked out as that is standard protocol after any incident like this.

So this is accurate - you basically never get convictions when everything happens within a split second. The officer isn't going to get hit by the car (maybe sort of bumped in the arm) at the time he fires the first shot, but about 0.5 seconds before, he would have gotten hit in the leg.

The 2nd and 3rd shots are clearly illegal - he is well off to the side of the car, they both travel through the drivers open window. But given that they happened quickly, it's going to be really hard to get a conviction on them - even though (by the FBI laws on officer shootings) all three shots are illegal.

It's more that the administration has set up a tinderbox of poorly trained officers placed in situations where these things will happen, because it furthers their objectives to crack down on communities.

Well, you said there was no officer in front of the vehicle. Here is a screenshot I took off of the original video. The officer is in front of the vehicle, drawing his weapon. He has a split second to make a decision whether this woman is going to plow into him or his fellow officers.

I'm sorry bro, but we can see that watching an event that has basically already unfolded. There is no way in hell for any human standing in front of that vehicle to know that it is turning away from him in a split-second. IM-POSSIBLE

This is why most don't take 90% of the posts here seriously. So, are all LEOs fascist or just the ones doing their jobs in MN?

He is in front of the vehicle at that point, but that's before she starts moving forward - and also before he fires his gun.

The issue is... Or part of the issue ... Trump cave out and flat lied. He didn't get run over. He was not hurt. He calmly walked away and after a few seconds said something about calling 911.

Now the FBI has claimed jurisdiction, which will without doubt mean a cover up.

The punishment for any individual not obeying a masked unidentified individual should not be to be pinned down. The whole thing is Orwellian. And as mentioned ICE die to get a phenomenal budget increase and to be the highest funded federal agency.

And people acting like this is all well and good. A US citizen, murdered by unidentified masked individuals roaming and targeting Democrat cities.