DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus ICE murdered a US citizen in MN

I made an error in regards to the budget for ICE. It is $28 billion for Fiscal Year (FY) 2026, largely due to a significant funding increase from the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act". This budget makes ICE the highest-funded federal law enforcement agency.

So yes, rather than drain the limited local law enforcement budget to help them do the federal job of enforcing immigration laws, let ICE pay them for their time and resources instead of expecting them to allow ICE to leach off of them.

These cities don't want ICE there. You can't "vote ICE out of your community". The vast majority of those who did vote for trump don't live in any of these cities. In case you didn't get the memo, the presidency isn't decided by a majority of the votes. It's decided by the electoral college.

Just imagine, not so long ago you supported state and local governments rights to mainly govern themselves and wanted the federal government to stay out of it. Now you want the feds all up peoples ass. It's amazing how much one man can get you to abandon the very things you used to stand for.

Just because you do not like something and do not want something does not mean you get to break laws and attack ICE officers etc.... Trump won the election and he won it in large part to his stance on illegal immigration. Election have consequences. Ice is doing their duty and illegals have to legal right to be in the country.

What does that have to do with ICE paying for the support they need to enforce federal law?

And what does that have to do with the fact Republicans used to say let states and cities run things on their own and now you want the feds in all of these cities?

We know elections have consequences. We had no idea one of those consequences would be one man ruling our nation with an executive order pen. Neither did a lot of people who voted for him.

You're trying unsuccessfully to move goal posts. ICE has and always has been to enforce immigration standards, and we have people in our country illegally and they need to be removed. There are no easy ways to remove them but allowing them to stay and break our laws is unacceptable.

Trump said he was going after "the worse of the worst". But that's not what's happening here. All you see is a huge flashing sign that says ILLEGAL!

What people in these communities see far too often is Juan who lives down the street from them who works hard every day to support his family, whose children play soccer with their kids at school, were raised in their neighborhood and are well mannered, who are devout Catholics, and bought and improved a home in their neighborhood which helped raise their own property values is being threatened with having his entire family torn apart.

And all of that for a misdemeanor that happened 15 or 20 years ago.

You see that as justice and they see that as a travesty to justice.

I knew such a man a little over 20 years ago. He fits that description to a tee. He had two grown sons who also bought homes and made improvements in neighborhoods they could afford to purchase a home and was in need of improvement. Those three houses were the best looking houses on the block because of their work ethic and sweat equity. Kind, fine upstanding men every one of them. They would give you the shirt off their backs.

I don't want people like that going anywhere. Our society needs more people like that, not less. Tax payers leading productive lives.

I knew them and I've gotten to know who you are by your posts. I would rather have them for neighbors any time over you.

I would not want you as a neighbor either. Don't worry in our next life you will not being seeing me anyway. I am sorry but illegal is illegal and they have no place in the US. Vote in November besides that peaceful protest but when it goes beyond peaceful stop whining when officers then defend themselves.

You're right. I won't be joining you in hell.

You might want to tell all of those people who can not be prosecuted because their crimes went beyond the statute of limitations that the law covers them and their crimes are forgiven. You remember forgiveness don't you? That little thing Jesus taught us about.

I hope you're right about you not going to hell. I know your wrong about me though. I see you are confused a little though Jesus died for your sins not your crimes.

Jesus also crossed borders freely. Man creates crimes Jesus has no part of.

Actually, he did not cross any borders. When he was alive the Romans occupied Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Syria etc... so even though he crossed the border of what is called Egypt to get out of the Jewish power base of so-called King Harod Israel and Egypt were both Roman territories so there were really no borders inside that territory. He really did not cross the border of any country it was all Roman territory. That is why in the Book of Acts less than 100 years after Jesus' birth when the Jews wanted to kill Paul, he pronounced himself a Roman citizen thus making it illegal for the Jews in Israel to kill him without Roman authority. Just so you understand the timeline Jesus was crucified at around 32 or 33 years old. Rome burnt the temple in Jerusalem 70 years after Jesus' death and Paul lived between the time of Jesus birth and died before the temple was burnt by Rome. So, Jesus never crossed real borders from one Sovern country to another.

Nice dodge but there were also no immigration laws in place or barriers to where you traveled and where you lived. Not for Jesus or anyone else. You are talking about invented laws by man since that time. And yes, they were all separate places and he crossed those borders freely.

Man, this looks a little less than 94% peaceful...