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If I was a head coach candidate. I would kill to go to Buffalo.
Let's see if the Browns contact McDermott. Yeah, Josh Allen in his prime will make that job a priority job that is open. If new coach does not keep Joe Brady OC he will also become a hot name that is available.
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I wish I was confident in the head coaching search.
I don't feel good about these young coordinators with the roster we have.
Schwartz seems like the safest pick. He has a boatload of experience that doesn't come easy.
Jim will be able to hire a staff quickly.
I think he knows who he wants as a OC.
JS is easier to trust than guys who have not had head coaching experience.
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With McDaniel now out of the picture.
Doubt in this search is creeping in.
How Monken is being considered is off the wall to me. He knows offense but he is not a guy who can run a team.
His personality is not right for the job.
Sure you can talk yourself into "hire the young hot coordinator; he will be the next McVay."
Except McVay was qualified. He was the OC for three years and he had great experience before that job.
Undinski has one year of experience as a OC. Scheelhaase was an assistant and is now a passing game coordinator.
They are supposed to come in assemble a staff and be the face of a franchise?
This is going the direction I feared.
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I can see this going the way I feared from the beginning.
We end with someone others did not consider and get turned down by candidates going for better opportunities.
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I'm starting to feel the same way, like we're going to have to settle for leftovers. Of course, we could do the smart thing and hire JS and then an OC if Rees leaves. That might be the easiest and smartest way out.
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Mike Pettine is available
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What I think should have been obvious from the beginning is the Browns are not a desired destination for top HC candidates. There are and were much better situations available to them. Only if and when those avenues are exhausted would they consider coming here. When someone turns down an interview as your HC to accept a position as OC on another team that should tell people all they need to know.
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The Browns HC job should be a covered posit.
You sign a 5 year contract
Get fired after 2
Get another job
Double dip for 3 years
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I can see this going the way I feared from the beginning.
We end with someone others did not consider and get turned down by candidates going for better opportunities. To be fair, all the candidates interviewed by the Browns have had or are planning to have interviews with other teams. How the other teams view these candidates are anybody's guess. The younger guys, they are viewed as very intelligent coaches. The obvious question is can they lead a team. I am not worried about if they can build a staff. I am sure they have connections throughout the NFL and/or they do have veteran coaches that can vouch coaching with them. You can look at it in a positive light, they are doing their due diligence on casting a wide net of coaches from various teams and backgrounds. They know Schwartz very well as being with the organization for a few years. I expect/assume they know what exactly JS wants and have gotten their feedback (positive or negative) about his feelings regarding interviewing other candidates.
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Mike Pettine is available You are late, lol. He just retired a few days ago.
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I can see this going the way I feared from the beginning.
We end with someone others did not consider and get turned down by candidates going for better opportunities. We can do what (I believe) the Patriots did. They hired a placeholder (Jerod Mayo), and then dumped him when someone they were targeting became available. This offensive roster is going to be a mess for at least another year.
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I have no problem with the process and even the candidates.
Berry is a smart guy. However, Haslam will add his two cents which is worth way more since he owns the team.
I think Haslam and Berry want a guy who can develop a quarterback. JS they want as DC.
The question is will JS be ok with that? Or, will they accept a OC that JS wants?
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Per AI: "Hue Jackson is not currently an NFL head coach but is available and seeking opportunities."
I'm sure what we got last time wasn't the REAL Hue and it would be different this time.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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"Won't the real Hue Jackson please stand up... please stand up... please stand up."
HERE WE GO BROWNIES! HERE WE GO!!
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IMO any coach that is hired needs to have and be part of an overall plan to develop a quarterback.
There are factors in play that have to be addressed during the interview process.
What is your opinion on Shedeur Sanders? Does he have a future as a legit quarterback in the NFL?
Is there a quarterback like Malik Willis as a free agent who you believe can be your starter?
If not is there a prospect in the draft outside of Mendoza that you believe can be successful in the NFL?
Simple stated what would be your plans at quarterback?
Shedeur becoming the man is by far the best outcome for us as fans.
However, counting on that is not a plan. There has to be other options.
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I was just checking the FA WR list, possible cuts and trade candidates and there is some talent if we can afford it.
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The Browns in some ways are painting themselves into a corner.
They have been very public about wanting to keep Schwartz.
That pretty much eliminates other defensive coaches. Schwartz is either the head coach or DC.
If he is not the head coach then in some ways he will be expected to mentor a young offensive head coach.
He may not feel good about that role. Schwartz could leave and he will get hired as the DC of his choice.
So let's say they hire Udinski or Scheelhaase. If Schwartz wants to go somewhere else.
Then these guys have to build an entire staff. In addition they don't know the players at all.
Myles and guys like Ward, Delpit, and others who have thrived under Schwartz are left to accept playing for a new guy who they do not know while believing the Browns are blowing it by not keeping Schwartz.
IMO not hiring Schwartz as the head coach is not a good idea.
Head coaches have to coach coaches. Now a 30 year old with little experience has to hire a staff and lead guys who could be close to twice their age.
Schwartz is already respected as a leader and his results as the DC give him credibility.
If Schwartz is ok with a young inexperienced head coach then it doesn't matter. He will remain.
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